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Savage questions quality of U.S. troops

Perhaps the most memorable moment of last week’s CNN/YouTube debate for Republican presidential candidates came midway through the event, when Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr quizzed the GOP field on whether they would allow Americans who happen to be gay to serve in the U.S. military.

In conservative circles, Kerr's record of service apparently doesn’t qualify him for respect. The Republican audience on hand for the debate booed the retired brigadier general, and this week, right-wing lunatic/radio host Michael Savage attacked Kerr personally, calling him a "gay, phony general." icon Download | play audio courtesy of Media Matters (thanks to Logan for assistance)

And while the smear is pathetic, and likely to draw plenty of well-deserved condemnations, let’s not lose sight of what else Savage said. Adding to his assault on Kerr, Savage said:

“I don’t care about this old queen, frankly. He disgusts me to make — my flesh crawls from the old queen. That was a general? Now you wonder why we’re still in Iraq five years later. General — with General Keith Kerr, you know why we’re still in Iraq five years later.”

What do you suppose Savage meant when he said we now know “why we’re still in Iraq five years later”?

The implication wasn't subtle -- Savage doesn’t respect the troops serving in Iraq, and blames them for the duration of the war. It’s not because of Bush, Rumsfeld, the Iraqis, Iran, or al Qaeda — for Savage, it’s because of those who wear the uniform.

Now, I’m not necessarily looking for a congressional condemnation here — those are apparently reserved for MoveOn — but I think it’s worth remembering that when it comes to prominent political figures who disparage Americans who serve in Iraq, it’s the right, not the left, throwing the rhetorical bombs.

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ray's picture

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

FOX is State Sponsored TV's picture

Savage doesn't have anything a good ass kicking wouldn't fix.

bobnbob's picture

Ray I agree.

What bugs me is if this came from anyone from remotely close to the left the would be condemned and called anti-american.

The one thing that has been bugging me so much lately is how the media continue to call me unpatriotic when the one thing I care most about is this country.

Impeech now.

pehpsi's picture

Once again, grown men acting like a bunch of freakin' school kids..

Ohio Proud's picture

ray @ 1:

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

Sadly, this is out on hundreds of radio stations everywhere!

Progressive Radio is back in Columbus! 1580

Dan's picture

Makes your skin crawl? In Larry Craig or Ted Haggard sort of way?

Ya know, Mr Savage, if you were secure in your OWN sexuality, it wouldn't
make one bit of difference how someone else gets their jollies.

You're such a weak and sad example of a man.
I'm sure there's a toilet stall with your name on it somewhere,
please go find it.

And leave the rest of us grownups alone.

Tequila's picture

Hey, Mike, if you don't like the job our troops are doing, you're welcome to volunteer...

Gekke's picture

and when his football team loses it's because the fans didn't cheer enough :)

Johnny2Bad's picture

WTF??? Why do you post this crap? Nobody but f*cking nutbags listen to this psychopath. All you'll get is a couple hundred posts stating the obvious.

Look, this guy is looking for ratings and buzz to keep his job.

Let's not help him...Let it go.

L.A. Confidential's picture

"always looking to make a fast buck" and "always trying to think up new schemes to get famous."

Diablo's picture

The only people I ever saw kicked out of the navy the entire time I served, from 99-2006, were people that wanted to get out. We called them "rainbow chits" and it was a way for the command to get rid of people that we going to go UA anyway. The no one really had a problem with the gay guys in my division. I guess when your in a war zone, you over look the stupid, petty shit. I really think this is a non issue for the most part.

Lollimom's picture

Savage has eerily serious "gay" issues, and those of you who know your psychology don't have to dig too deeply to figure out his real problem.

I say: Go to Iraq, you old queen, and put your chick-hawk ass on the line.

BlueIndependent's picture

Total geek moment, but any video game fans notice Mr. Weiner has an uncanny resemblance the top bad guy in Half-Life 2, Dr. Breen?

ralph's picture

Hey Kiddos'
If Uncle Al says "pull my finger", run away

bill w's picture

If the picture is of Savage he would be good to have in the military. His face would scare the shit out of the enemy.

duncanidho's picture

I don't know who this guy is, but he's no "Doc Savage", so he should STFU

JonfromAL's picture

That was a general?

Way to totally miss where he uses the same pronoun you'd use for a chair to refer to a decorated US veteran. He blatantly implies he thinks homosexuals aren't human.

L.A. Confidential's picture

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

sharkcellar's picture

It's obvious that we are in a quagmire because of anal penetration.

BlueIndependent's picture

Oh also, anyone think that Mr. Weiner was also making a veiled suggestion that the gays in our military are responsible for the "war's" duration because they're trying to satisfy their "gay tendencies"? I wouldn't put it past a guy like this to imply that the war is taking longer than Master Bush planned for because the gays are there to get their rocks off and are holding all the straight soldiers hostage by doing so, or some other Nth-dimension suggestion.

helenahandbasket's picture

Michael "Weiner" Savage is a third string right wing bomb thrower, who suckled at the teets of Joe Pyne, George Lincoln Rockwell and Robert Welch, Jr.

cheesesauce's picture

Mr. Weiner can get his "savage" ass on over to Iraq and do the rethuglican fubar himself. What a prick.

me and myself's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

Never listened to Weiner before, just know of his existence. Too pussy to use his real surname is my main gripe with him, all in the name of cash he throws away his Weiner roots.

Straight Shooter's picture

The Savage Weiner strikes again.

Bear in mind that Weiner's high school classmates recall that he had a fondness for snapping towels on the butts of his classmates as they changed in the locker room. Whenever he screams derogatory comments, be aware the man is speaking from a deep well of self-loathing hatred and fear.

MarkC's picture

Boy, calling the troops gay is a sure way to get yourself into real physical harm. I'm not in the service but I know people who would take genuine offense at his implication, for not entirely liberal reasons.

I'll bet this loud-mouthed imbecile is the meekest, nonconfrontational-chickenshit in the world. If you were to put him into a face to face setting with those military "homo's" he denegrates, michael WEINER would soil himself.

It's easy to shoot off your big bazoo in the safe confines of a radio studio. How neocon.

Jo's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 10:

"always looking to make a fast buck" and "always trying to think up new schemes to get famous."

Weiner is a pimp.

Aguilar's picture

This whole Keith Kerr "controversy" is the most pathetic and frustrating thing that I've ever seen. So he's implying that gay people are somehow less competent? I feel like breaking something.

DownRangeRanger's picture

If Michael Savage thinks we're doing such a bad job in Iraq, maybe he can fix things by flying his ass down here! We need all the help we can get, specially from P-ssies like him!

I don't care who's in uniform next to me, as long as he has my back. So what do ya say, Michael?

Scared?

Kevin Simms's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

So sad.

DownRangeRanger's picture

Kevin Simms @ 30:

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

So sad.

And like O'reilly's audience, they're all old. No one under 70 knows him!

Terrible's picture

If that's how he feels then why isn't he and all his little college republican girls friends signing up to go fight the illegal war they support? Maybe because it isn't a war but an illegal use of the US military for private corporate profit as well as multiple war crimes. We need a draft! One that calls up every single one of these blowhards that continue to push for these crimes to be commited. Then send them to an Arctic ice floe to wait till spring because to send savage and that kind of scum anywhere else would consitute another war crime.

Sweet Chunks's picture

Man the airport restroom stalls! We aren't listening for toe taps this time.
Check for fierce rythmic stomping from jackbooted feet... the mating call of the closeted gay fascist.
The boots are probably small.

DownRangeRanger's picture

If Michael Savage thinks we’re doing such a bad job in Iraq, maybe he can fix things by flying his ass down here! We need all the help we can get, specially from P-ssies like him!

I don’t care who’s in uniform next to me, as long as they have my back. So what do ya say, Michael?

Scared?

JasonS's picture

I demand that the Senate immediately convene to condemn Michael Savage.

Of course, I demand this every day, but this time I've got a reason!

Marge's picture

He could certainly change that, the quality of the troops he wants. Go out and sign up some of the chickenshit republicans. And he could lead the parade.

Keith's picture

The Right-Wing nut broadcasters like Savage and Limbaugh have always been mouthpieces for the most vile and murderous statements against gays. People forget so easily. Rush used to have 'updates' mocking AIDS victims. He had special theme songs and everything. Back in the 80's (?), I attended a live Rush event at the Arco Arena in Sacramento. When he played the theme music from his AIDS update and another one mocking Barney Frank, the audience cheered the loudest of the whole night, hooting and hollering. It was like being at a lynching where the mob is totally hyped up. Yet the MSM has casually glossed over these pigs and made it seem like they are very respectable and just very popular and entertaining conservative voices.

me and myself's picture

Kevin Simms @ 30:

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

So sad.

It is sad, 10 million daily listeners (I doubt this is true) is a very low number, this is just fringe radio. 300 million people live in the US. Spread that equally among all 50 states and it is even less impressive. Only con nutbags believes these are great numbers. 3% of the population has his crap tuned in but maybe 3% of that group may be actually listening to him.

I never really see in name out there frequently, he is really no big deal.

Preacher Boob's picture

Michael Savage is really a Weiner (I don't know if that's pronounced 'weener', or 'whiner', but either would fit, as he is a shill for the NeoConZionist freaks who have driven us into the debacle known as 'Iraq', whose raison d' etre is protecting Israel, whose mantra is Israel Uber Alles, at any cost (to be paid by other people).

They (and he) are pushy cowards, who are willing to cheat, lie, steal, defame, defraud, debase anyone who criticizes any Israeli action, no matter how despicable, and thus make themselves despicable. And, wonder of wonders, they wonder why folks 'hate them so'.

ashton's picture

I still have yet to find any station, any where that carries this guy. He is really someone to just laugh at.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

Conservatives don't support the troops it's just a line they use when they need more votes...Nixon was shitty to the military, Reagan was murder on the troops, yeah, Ronny, thanks for killing the GI Bill, thanks for cutting away pay and starting the ball rolling on screwing the troops wives and children out of a place to live on base...Bush Sr, Bush Jr...go ahead...which Republican treated our soldiers the best?

Paul's picture

Methinks Mr.Savage doth protest too loudly.

drshatterhand's picture

This guy Weiner is obviously a closeted gay. Stop the self loathing and come out...

mudshark's picture

savage's popularity is waining....just like shrubs.....but this guy is something else altogether.he's just grabbing at straws.

me and myself's picture

ashton @ 40:

I still have yet to find any station, any where that carries this guy. He is really someone to just laugh at.

He is on in Atlanta, Philly, NYC, only the major metros with many very few exceptions. Those three alone constitutes his 10 million so called listeners.

me and myself's picture

me and myself @ 45:

ashton @ 40:

I still have yet to find any station, any where that carries this guy. He is really someone to just laugh at.

He is on in Atlanta, Philly, NYC, only the major metros with many very few exceptions. Those three alone constitutes his 10 million so called listeners.

Take "many" out of this sentence. I erred.

mrogi's picture

I think Michael Savage is trying to say that homosexual Keith Kerr would not have lasted 5 minutes in the presence of the great General George Patton.

bobnbob's picture

Here are some details on this fellow...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage_%28commentator%29

Chavez's picture

This creep is so pathetic,he make my skin crawl.Fuck you weiner.

bobnbob's picture

haha and he has one of the worst websites ever...
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/

His website makes me dizzy.

Preacher Boob's picture

I heard he has an ingrown phallus, so he has to sit to both sh*t and pee, which might, to a degree, explain his warped psyche.

If he had a more positive attitude, he could just look at that deformity as 'Having a dimple above my testicles', that is, he could. if he had any testicles.

So, dickless, ball-less, the weener (whiner?) makes his way through life.

How does he compensate?

He diddles his tokus with a dildo.

Aren't you glad you're not a weener (whiner?)

breakspear's picture

He's.an.irrelevant.thing.

me and myself's picture

That number is actually estimated at 8 million weeklylisteners, 2 million daily seriously reducing him a a fringe and less important.

jqp's picture

Mr. O. M. Wiener is a dick.

Dana's picture

These right wing whiners boo and bitch about people like Kerr because they
can only dream of having half the nerve and courage he has and 99.99% of
those piece of shit whiners never served a second of their pathetic lives in
uniform.

unpoetaloco's picture

Savage, aka Michael Weiner, used to bufu Allen Ginsberg in Berkeley in the 60's. He was a hippie long before he was a radio shill, carnival barker and all-around misanthrope.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

Dana @ 55:

These right wing whiners boo and bitch about people like Kerr because they
can only dream of having half the nerve and courage he has and 99.99% of
those piece of shit whiners never served a second of their pathetic lives in
uniform.

I wouldn't exactly say that...I'm sure most of these creeps like to play dress up!

Anthony's picture

Wow, does he look like the filthy Nazi he is on that picture. Can't someone take that headshot and Photoshop it on a portrait of Adolf Hitler? Goes well with his PR-stunt "presidential bid". And that slogan "language, borders, culture" - which is Savage-speak for "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Savage!".

mrogi's picture

The Michael Savage style of demagogic bombastic rhetoric seems to resonate with radio listeners on a massive scale. It's mind -boggling to consider that Savage has a daily audience of 8 million. Only Limbaugh and Hannity attract bigger ratings. In addition to his success in broadcasting, Savage authored 4 consecutive #1 NY Times bestsellers. There must be a very lucrative market in the United States for his brand of horseshit.

To add further insult to injury, Savage is also co-owner of the $100 million energy drink company, Rockstar.

kablooie's picture

There's a face for radio!

bmw 528's picture

mrogi @ 47:

I think Michael Savage is trying to say that homosexual Keith Kerr would not have lasted 5 minutes in the presence of the great General George Patton.

Neither would you, loser. And I'm surprised you can think.

Trittydi's picture

Do these guys take stupid pills?

I can't imagine how they get to this point otherwise. Is it because they all own Halliburton stock? Maybe that's it.
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slappy magoo's picture

Marge @ 36:

He could certainly change that, the quality of the troops he wants. Go out and sign up some of the chickenshit republicans. And he could lead the parade.

Considering how many of the chickenhawks are barely-closeted homosexuals themselves, I don't think that will be the change of "quality" Weiner wants.

Then again...maybe it is...

QuakerDave's picture

The only uniform this guy has ever worn features a brown shirt.

QuakerDave's picture

I think Michael Savage is trying to say that homosexual Keith Kerr would not have lasted 5 minutes in the presence of the great General George Patton.

The real Patton, or the one in the movie who some people seem to think WAS real?

And how long would Savage last in combat? Five minutes sounds like a stretch...

Marty's picture

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the garbage and hate that comes out of this man's mouth ON A DAILY BASIS.

I honestly don't know how someone like this gets paid to talk. It speaks volumes about America, does it not?

gene214's picture

Maybe Michael Savage Wiener has issues because people would confuse him with Dan Savage - the guy who writes the "Savage Love" column which appears in alternative weeklies like New York's The Village Voice. Just sayin'.

Tim in Japan's picture

Nice train of logic there savage.
If A = B and B = C, then C = gravy ladle

Where the fuck do they come up with these ass hats and why are they making more money than me?

mrogi's picture

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

joe cantwell's picture

this the guy that fox news recently defended.

Anthony's picture

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

So do you agree with Savage that we should put a 100 million Muslims into the gas chambers? This is a guy who has the same opinion about Muslims that Hitler had about the Jews. "They are all vermin, they are all scum - and we must kill them all, before they kill us."

Read Mein Kampf, and then read The Savage Nation - tell me if you found any difference in the rhetoric.

War Crimes's picture

US is lowering standards for troops in active duty: Waiving drug offenses. SOme of them appear tobe in the officer corps. Too stupid to realize they're in an illegal war.

joe cantwell's picture

mrogi @ 47:

I think Michael Savage is trying to say that homosexual Keith Kerr would not have lasted 5 minutes in the presence of the great General George Patton.

why not? patton was homosexual too.

(sometimes i'm able to verbalize the truth better than anybody)

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

He's number 3 behind Rush and Hannity.

10 Million daily listeners.

Should we believe those numbers? I mean, they probably come from that librul media.

Linda's picture

Hopefully, this will result in even more Repubs jumping ship and either going indy or joining the Dems.

Linda's picture

It's more important to guys like Savage that those who volunteer to fight their wars for them "get it on" in the way Savage thinks is OK, than it is for their soldiers to just be good soldiers. Savage is a pathetic SOB.

jwf's picture

Weimer is a self loathing closet queen.

Matthew's picture

ray @ 1:

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

Not only ignored but included into the long list of reasons why this prick's sponsors should dump him like the trash he is.

http://www.hyerstandard.com

Glen Tomkins's picture

Part of the Dolchstosslegende

The main thrust of the "stabbed in the back" theory of why the Germans lost WWI, or the "didn't support the troops" theory of why we lost in Vietnam, is indeed that enemies external to the military betrayed it. But there was room in the original propaganda masterpiece that Savage models his efforts on, for some blame to be cast within the military. It wasn't just Social Democrats and other Jews on the homefront, you see, there were Jews in uniform as well, undermining the war effort at the front. So it should come as no surprise when Savage tells us that gays in uniform are no small part of the reason that the Army has not yet won a final and glorious victory in Iraq.

You're not going to make much counter-propaganda headway trying to turn this into some narrative that the Right hates the military. Sure, there are obviously things about our professional military that the Right in general, neocons most particularly, do indeed hate. There is a strong tendency in that professional military to follow ethical and procedural rules, to object to killing civilians under the name of "counter-insurgency warfare", to object to mistreating prisoners of war, to object to starting wars without Congressional authorization. But these tendencies can be by-passed by finding existing organizations -- the Marines, the intelligence services, the Air Force, the SOC -- within the military who are more morally flexible for a given purpose, or by building up alternate organizations like Blackwater, that lack a tradition of moral inflexibility. The Right is not at all anti-military, they simply glorify the new version of the military, their SA or SS, that has been purified of the scruples of "bourgeois morality" that stand in the way of the national will to power.

Don's picture

Buried down so far in this thread I know my idea won't get much attention.

I have known two people personally for whom I would coin the phrase, "pathologically glib".

A normal person such as myself could never win an argument with a pathologically glib person. Such a person has superior lightning fast responses to any remark. Such a person even though possessed with inferior rationales can bully anybody else to the max. Except people who possess better arguments. Unfortunately the bullys who occupy positions on conservative talk radio know who the people are who can stand up to them and such people are never invited into the discourse.

Michael Savage is "pathologically glib". So is Sean Hannity. Ditto for Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter.

These people have a motor mouth connected to their brains which is able to shut off discourse when it suits them.

It's why such people drive the rest of us crazy when we have to sit and listen to their absurd rantings on TV while their hosts never challenge them. The glib personality has an instant answer to anything, even if that answer is absurd. Such pathologically glib people exist in our lives. One of them dominated my friend. He has no defense against her constant glib screaming at him. He's a gentle quiet person. Yet his ex spouse is glib and knows she dominates him.

Another pathologically glib person I used to work with is gone. Thank goodness, He had a glib answer for everything. He was also compulsively obsessed, arranging his cheese crackers in precise marching rows. But he had an empty head. Never a deep thought about any subject. Just repeating simpleton talking points he picked up who knows where.

Criminy

jr's picture

Savage Weiner is a punk bitch that picked flowers instead of going to Vietnam. Boycott his son's company Rockstar Energy Drinks.

mrogi's picture

Don @ 80:

I have known two people personally for whom I would coin the phrase, "pathologically glib".

Only two people? You need to get out more. Mendacity is more pervasive in our society than the flu virus. Pathological glibness is part of the job description of any politician who aspires to high office. Pathological glibness is a fundamental prerequiste for any successful talk show host, used car salesman, televangelist, cosmetic surgeon, tort attorney, stockbroker, career diplomat or pimp.

whizkid's picture

Savage is the most dangerous voice on radio today.
Like Father Coughlin, too many - cause they know he's a Jew - consider him reasonable.
This tory swine is a danger to freedom.
Our FCC needs a fairness doctrine and a Democratic government.
My mention of his religious affiliation is but a true use of an actor and of the right's propoganda effort.

RalphieV's picture

You forgot to mention what a chicken hawk, chickens**t coward Savage is. Draft dodging piece of garbage.

mrogi's picture

The American public conducts a referendum on Michael Savage each day he is on the air. Eight million listeners consistently make the Savage Nation the third highest rated show in the United States despite the 20 nationally syndicated daily liberal talk radio alternatives that are readily available. The free market has spoken.

joe cantwell's picture

mrogi @ 85:

The American public conducts a referendum on Michael Savage each day he is on the air. Eight million listeners consistently make the Savage Nation the third highest rated show in the United States despite the 20 nationally syndicated daily liberal talk radio alternatives that are readily available. The free market has spoken.

what about general patton?

Sarah's picture

mrogi @ 85:

The American public conducts a referendum on Michael Savage each day he is on the air. Eight million listeners consistently make the Savage Nation the third highest rated show in the United States despite the 20 nationally syndicated daily liberal talk radio alternatives that are readily available. The free market has spoken.

That would also be the 25% of individuals who didn't read a book this past year too. Hey, gotta do something when you're not particularly educated!

Sarah's picture

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument, I say.

60% of Arabs living in the United States are CHRISTIAN!

joe cantwell's picture

Sarah @ 87:

mrogi @ 85:

The American public conducts a referendum on Michael Savage each day he is on the air. Eight million listeners consistently make the Savage Nation the third highest rated show in the United States despite the 20 nationally syndicated daily liberal talk radio alternatives that are readily available. The free market has spoken.

That would also be the 25% of individuals who didn't read a book this past year too. Hey, gotta do something when you're not particularly educated!

hmmm, gore got more votes than bush but bush is president. mrogi, the voters have spoken.

eh?

joe cantwell's picture

mrogi?

giving up already?

mrogi's picture

joe cantwell @ 90:

mrogi?
giving up already?

My purpose was never to discredit your viewpoint. I just wanted to present a different perspective.

joe cantwell's picture

mrogi?

mrogi?

aren't you a member of "wiener nation"?

stand up for "wiener nation"!

joe cantwell's picture

mrogi @ 91:

joe cantwell @ 90:

mrogi?
giving up already?

My purpose was never to discredit your viewpoint. I just wanted to present a different perspective.

your porpoise? leave your porpoise alone or you'll go blind!

BlueIndependent's picture

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

Not likely. He'd be more accurate if he said religious societies have a tendency to do these things, not just Islamic ones. Are we to believe religious people here have never killed homosexuals? Cuz that's not an argument Christianity's defenders are going to win. Are we to believe the rather frequent cases of failed exorcism practices signs of Christianity's virtue? And Timothy McVeigh, the white Christian terrorist?

Make no mistake whatsoever: there is zero difference between a Christian fundamentalist and an Islamic one. Both have bombed, both have murdered, both have committed atrocity. A self-avowed Christian thought it was a good idea to invade a country that didn't attack us, rather than focus on the one that did, wasting billions of money and our ethical standing. A theocracy, which is what the Christian right DOES want here, will turn this place into the Christian Pakistan faster than you care to admit.

While you're busy busting on Islam, add other radical religious sects to your list. Because there's a lot more than one, and they're closer than you think they are.

joe cantwell's picture

BlueIndependent @ 94:

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

Not likely. He'd be more accurate if he said religious societies have a tendency to do these things, not just Islamic ones. Are we to believe religious people here have never killed homosexuals? Cuz that's not an argument Christianity's defenders are going to win. Are we to believe the rather frequent cases of failed exorcism practices signs of Christianity's virtue? And Timothy McVeigh, the white Christian terrorist?

Make no mistake whatsoever: there is zero difference between a Christian fundamentalist and an Islamic one. Both have bombed, both have murdered, both have committed atrocity. A self-avowed Christian thought it was a good idea to invade a country that didn't attack us, rather than focus on the one that did, wasting billions of money and our ethical standing. A theocracy, which is what the Christian right DOES want here, will turn this place into the Christian Pakistan faster than you care to admit.

While you're busy busting on Islam, add other radical religious sects to your list. Because there's a lot more than one, and they're closer than you think they are.

well written. however mrogl does not speak the language of logic. therefore he will not understand your thesis.

A.Citizen's picture

Ohio Proud @ 5:

ray @ 1:

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

Sadly, this is out on hundreds of radio stations everywhere!

Progressive Radio is back in Columbus! 1580

This should never be ignored. This should be shown for what it is the deliberate attempt of the Fascist cabal
attempting to subvert our government to poison the public discourse to the point where nothing can be discussed

To ignore this vile sack of shit and his fellows is to let them win.

Speak out every chance you get against this. Do not let this go unanswered.

If you are too discouraged or afraid I leave you with the words of Edward R. Murrow:

We proclaim ourselves as indeed we are: The defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world. But we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

Silence in the face of oppression is appeasement. Americans are not appeasers as Mr. Savage will ultimately find out.

kuvasz's picture

god i hope and pray that man ends up like allen berg

TimeForNewLeadership's picture

Savage is one of the ugliest animals I have ever seen, similar to a rabid possum. To think he has a large public podium and that NBC gave TV time within the last two years. Unbelievable.

TimeForNewLeadership's picture

What branch of the military did Savage serve in and what did he do?

TimeForNewLeadership's picture

Oh, so shocking, looks like Savage (formerly Michael Weiner) never served in the military. Another chicken hawk!! Big tough guy with an inferiority complex probably related to his real last name. Apparently, when he could not make it as a liberal in the field of botany he became a chicken hawk shock jock and has made a "successful" living preaching hate. Way to go Weinerdog. You fit right in with the rest of the right wing wacko brute squad. Good riddance!

Robt's picture

And I question Savage's real name?

His Sanity? His ideolofy? His sincerity in reporting over shock media for self profiting?

I question Savage's ability to be a "real soldier"? But not Rush's ability to be the real "Phony Soldier".?

Idiotland's picture

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

And what did those peaceful Christian societies do? Stone, burn and drown people do death along with burning women as witches. Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

mrogi's picture

Muslim despots and Islamic terrorists are currently imposing a reign of terror in dozens of countries throughout the world. Even the most vociferous critics of Christianity have to reference events that took place 500 years ago during the Spanish Inquisition to find anything even remotely comparable to today's Islamic atrocities.

Gay and Proud's picture

This stuff just has to be ignored, as said #1.

joe dutko's picture

ray @ 1:

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

What is this showbiz, 3 dollar bill's real name?

right wing hater's picture

Savage.....has a 'wide stance'...

Another self-hating coward, who thinks the concept of an 'intellectual con-servative' has merits...

As for his stage name...its appropriate, he's a fake warrior who like Karl Rove probably got picked last in kickball and can't come to terms with his self-hating tendencies...

Left&Left's picture

Everytime I see a picture of this freak I laugh. This sorry little white man is clearly trying to get vindication from all the guys and GIRLS who took his lunch money. What an angry pussy.

Anthony's picture

mrogi @ 103:

Muslim despots and Islamic terrorists are currently imposing a reign of terror in dozens of countries throughout the world. Even the most vociferous critics of Christianity have to reference events that took place 500 years ago during the Spanish Inquisition to find anything even remotely comparable to today's Islamic atrocities.

And what about Jerry Falwell saying "blow them all away, in the name of the Lord" - isn't that the same thing that al-Qaeda is talking about? But no, as long as we're talking Christian religious extremists, they're OK.

But Islamic religious extremists? WHOA! Turn off the television! "I don't care that they got help from the CIA to fight the Soviets - they're Muslims, which means that they are evil." I wish I could just laugh at that silly "logic" of yours.

David Ehrenstein's picture

Savage Weiner is, needless to say, a closet queen.

yellow dog's picture

Weiner did not serve. Like Darth Cheney, he was too busy.

What an asshole.

ckerst's picture

Savage is another self loathing repugnacan closeted gay. He has a history of skinny dipping with other men, at least one of which, is a known homosexual.
Really, a little research into his background shows what a sham he is.

Bluestocking's picture

Kerr is by no means a phony soldier -- but Savage most definitely is both a phony patriot and a phony American, plus a blatant homophobe to boot.

votingvet's picture

Cut the guy some slack. He's a war hero, after all. It still wrankles me that he was denied the Congressional Medal of Honor. I mean, come on, only a veteran who's been there would dare to criticize the men and women who are fighting in Iraq today, right?
/snark/---
If not a veteran, then a mealy mouthed, vomit-spewing, craven, cowardly little queen too afraid to admit his own sexual orientation to speak well of a General who was courageous enough to admit his. ---

--"Weiner, Weiner, Cocktail Weiner", is just what his real name implies, and he will never be anything more than that. Excuse me, now, while I go to the nearest bathroom and disgorge my rising breakfast.

ysbaddaden's picture

Even after Xians stopped burning and hanging people for witchcraft, they continued to prosecute them for fraud for giving false hope (the fortune tellers.)

But you never heard of Xians being prosecuted for giving false hope in specious cures, faith healing etc.

Additionally some of the grievances against the West are more recent like the redrawing of boundaries after WWI that created modern Iraq, the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq and the replacement of the Shah in Iran, the creation of Israel at the end of WWII on lands the Brits promised to the Palestinians. At the very least the latter should have been included in the equation.

ysbaddaden's picture

I meant to say Mossadeq was replaced by the shah.

ysbaddaden's picture

How many people even turn on the radio just for talk? Don't most turn it on for music?

brokenarrow's picture

Weiner(his real name) hated his father, and is struggling, to this day, with his latent homosexuality. He is a deeply conflicted, very angry, unhappy, fat, old man. He adopted the fake name of Savage as an attempt to escape his conflicted relationship with Mr. Weiner, his father, who was a very harsh, mean, man.

His first wife became pregnant twice, and chose to abort both times. He has a fixation with Marines, and gives generously to champion their causes, especially a legal fund to defend the Haditha crowd.

His son is the founder of Rockstar Energy Drinks............never heard of 'em~~

It's all there on Wikipedia...........but there is NO MENTION of his ever having served in any branch of the military, marine or otherwise.

The Wanderer's picture

Funny, Savage dismissing the retired General Keer as "an old queen;" Anyone who has seen Savage mincing around San Francisco with his poodle can tell you what a closeted, self-hating queen HE is. Shouldn't a tough-guy hetero like he longs to be live in Texas or something?

scruzman's picture

Straight Shooter @ 24:

The Savage Weiner strikes again.

Bear in mind that Weiner's high school classmates recall that he had a fondness for snapping towels on the butts of his classmates as they changed in the locker room. Whenever he screams derogatory comments, be aware the man is speaking from a deep well of self-loathing hatred and fear.

Snapping towels in the locker oom!? The Horror!! I'll never listen to him again!

Jacques's picture

I thought Savage was saying that because the general is gay the miliary is failing in iraq. that it somehow has to do with his gay leadership. One thing that is in no doubt is that Savage is a fscking asshole.

G Puckett's picture

Mr. Wiener ailas (Savage) wrote letters to Alan Gisberg (proudly gay) that read like love letters to me. Men like Wiener who express so much hatred for gays are so very,very, often leading a secret gay life. I have my suspicion that Wiener secretly wants a big wiener!

Terrible's picture

The war in Iraq is lost because Michael Savage refuses to fight. Who would a thunk it? And who woulda guessed he'd be the one to accuse himself?

Terrible's picture

mrogi @ 103:

Muslim despots and Islamic terrorists are currently imposing a reign of terror in dozens of countries throughout the world. Even the most vociferous critics of Christianity have to reference events that took place 500 years ago during the Spanish Inquisition to find anything even remotely comparable to today's Islamic atrocities.

So what you're saying is that Savage should be shot by a firing squad for his cowardice in not leading you in your fight against them??? Well you're welcome to say whatever you want I guess, it's a free country as long as you don't live near any of the radical Christian extremists.

wardog's picture

Ignorance like his should be ignored.

Yeah, it worked so well for us ignoring Rush Limbaugh for a decade.

No, bigotry like his should be exposed, condemned, and shoved down his pansy piehole.

Dire Lobo's picture

Johnny2Bad @ 9:

WTF??? Why do you post this crap? Nobody but f*cking nutbags listen to this psychopath. All you'll get is a couple hundred posts stating the obvious.

Look, this guy is looking for ratings and buzz to keep his job.

Let's not help him...Let it go.

That's not how it works. If you haven't been paying attention, the new game plan is to shine the light on these bastards and flush them out. Get with the program.

Badfinger's picture

Michael your thuch a thavage. You know what I mean. This guy bashes a college that he wanted to go to but couldn't get in and now it's a worthless college all of a sudden.
He is thuch a thavage. Poor teddy knows though.

watchdog's picture

Sadly this dumbass has a following in the military, some of my NCO's used to love listening to him. And I had a Sgt FC tell me he thought Weiner man would make a better president than any of the current republicants running...ew!

mrogi's picture

Straight Shooter @ 24:

Bear in mind that Weiner's high school classmates recall that he had a fondness for snapping towels on the butts of his classmates as they changed in the locker room.

If snapping towels on a guy's butt in a locker room is gay; football players are gayer than a barrel of pink monkeys.

Arran's picture

The numbers of gay and lesbian soldiers recently returned from their (2nd? 3rd?) 15-month deployment to Iraq here in Germany are beyond Savage's wildest imaginations (unless he's "closet").

VitriolAndAngst's picture

I think this guys real name is David Wiener.

Maybe we should call him "Savage Wiener"? I know, that's not real mature, but that would count as a score on his radio show.

Prup (aka Jim Benton)'s picture

Two points. The important one is the number of bloggers and commenters on the Kerr story who have missed one important point. Yes, he's worked with Democrats on this issue, but he's a member of the Log Cabin REPUBLICANS, and has every right to question the candidates of his party.

Second, I have no idea what Michael Savage's sexual orientation is. (As a bisexual man, I hope he's straight. We have enough problems having been loaded with Hoover, Spellman, Craig, Roy Cohn, etc.) But I find yet again that, in attacking a conservative or a bigot, so many of your commenters seem to consider it okay to use the most homophobic or 'gay-mocking' comments. (Or sexist ones, like using 'pussy' as an insult.) When the conservative bigots make statements like this about one of us, we condemn them rightly, but when we have a hated target, let's use all the anti-gay stuff we have stored in the back corners of our sub-conscious.

Let's not.

me's picture

The Savage Weiner is symbolic of what's wrong with America today. The fact that he gets put on the air is disgusting; the fact that he has listeners is frightening.

Dik's picture

Idiotland @ 102:

mrogi @ 69:

"Islamic societies kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris off women, force women to wear dark clothing, behead those who disagree with them. America is insane to allow those people into this country to preach a religion of hate written in their throwback document: The Koran." _michael savage

Sometimes Savage is able to verbalize the truth better than anybody.

And what did those peaceful Christian societies do? Stone, burn and drown people do death along with burning women as witches. Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.

Spinner.... How long ago did christian societies stone, burn and drown people? Islamic societies kill homosexuals today.

CD's picture

I may not be "pro-gay" but the man did serve he is not a "phony general” and the fact that Wiener-Savage would claim such a thing just shows what a loon he is.

plooger's picture

Good catch. It does appear that Savage was blaming the performance of the military for the situation in Iraq, rather than the civilians who direct the military. Savage doesn't know much, it appears.

mjm's picture

I'm no Savage apologist...but you are incorrect about his stated opinions of our troops.
In fact he has been quite active in helping the Marines who have been accused of doing their
jobs too well in the combat zone. He has stated many times what most level headed individuals
feel, the administration has done a horrible job of managing the war, the troops however are heros.

And I have to hand it to you "progressives", support the gay general, but hate the "closeted gay" Savage for calling him a fag?

Have the courage to accept that you just don't like what Savage has to say. He seems to encourage thought with his show.
No comparisons to the likes of the Bush-bot, liberal hating Hannity either.

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