Huckabee: Quarantine AIDS patients in '92!
By John Amato Friday Dec 07, 2007 4:20pm
Huckabee's big lead in Iowa is certainly stirring things up on the GOP side. Looks like Murdock's gang has their guns pointed at Huckabee. Not that his postion on AIDS is excusable at all.
- Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could "pose a dangerous public health risk."
When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease....read on
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"huck" huckabee. what a guy!
Woah, that came from the NY Post?? Isn't that a right wing propaganda outlet? I'm shocked it wasn't changed to Hillary or even Ron Paul.
What a blathering idiot. "Homosexuality could “pose a dangerous public health risk"? Really, Huck?
On second thought, though, in a twisted way, it somehow makes sense, after all Republicans ARE a danger to public health.
Hmmm. I would have thought that his enormous girth (at that time) and his obesity would have put a much larger strain on the healthcare industry driving up our individual costs. I don't suppose people choose to contract HIV. I bet he chose that fried turkey over the chef salad though...
In Huckabee's defense, while he did oppose funding for a cure for AIDS, he supported funding for a cure for homosexuality.
Which seems strange, but he secretly thought that once he cured homosexuality, he'd also solve the AIDS problem.
So he's not such a bad guy. And he prays a lot. To a 'god'. Who he secretly believes 'hates' him. Because he's so stupid he believes in a 'god'.
Glad to see you covering this. I had sent an email to the new blog round-up person because I couldn't believe this wasn't here.
What really pissed Hucklebee was that he saw all these 'homos' getting Federal money to cure their AIDS, while he had lost his mind and nobody would give him a nickel to help him find it.
Does this surprise anyone?
Welcome to the big leagues Mike. In the inevitable cleaning out of Huckabee's closet, there are more than a few skeletons that would likely impede his candidacy, this is justs one of them.
Huckabee is a fundamentalist. All fundamentalist reasoning ranges from poor to very scary.
excerpt from Why I Quit HIV
by Rebecca V. Culshaw
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html
"...My work as a mathematical biologist has been built in large part on the paradigm that HIV causes AIDS, and I have since come to realize that there is good evidence that the entire basis for this theory is wrong. AIDS, it seems, is not a disease so much as a sociopolitical construct that few people understand and even fewer question. The issue of causation, in particular, has become beyond question – even to bring it up is deemed irresponsible..."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html
They are just mad because God wants him to win and they can't do anything about it.
I am sincerely afraid of EVERY SINGLE Republican candidate running for President!
They are ALL insane!
Not one of them is fit for public office - how any of them got this far is unbelievable.
The corruption (Guliani), the lying (Romney), the crazy policies based on their extreme religious beliefs...
Don't let ANY of these guys win - they will make the disasters of "W" even worse!
You know, Hucklebee had the germ of a good idea.
What if we quarantined all republicans?
Of course, to sell the idea, we should propose to quarantine all non-republicans, leaving the republicans 'free' to roam the internment camps that Halliburton is unknowingly building for them.
Can't wait for the '08 election.
Bush/Cheney/NeoConZionist Impeachment, republican internment, a 'free' Irag (costing us nothing), getting some love from the world again, (except for those spiteful Tel Avivians), a dollar that's worth a full one-hundred pennies, a president who can speak English, a populace that doesn't have to learn Yiddish, kids who can spell 'school', cars that run on pee and crab grass, oil imported only for mixed massages, 'Sex for Fun' instead of 'Abstinence Only', health for all, education for all, opportunity to piss on republicans for all, priests, ministers, reverends, preachers who aren't interned, strictly prohibited from sex with anyone under the age of consent (except each other).
Paradise reborn.
You know I'd say "yippee" if I didn't already know that some other repuglican candidate got this in the headlines. Poor Huckleberry, just when he was picking up steam. Let the slinging continue!
makes you wonder what huck would have done if wayne dumond had AIDS.
Oh, and priests, ministers, reverends, preachers made to STFU outside the confines of their 'places of 'worship'', and never, ever, ever attempt to impose their whacko figmental ideas on anyone who doesn't want to hear it, and never, ever, ever to pompously, piously pontificate on matters of governance or politics (except internal 'church' governance and politics, which should keep them plenty busy).
Under penalty of disrobement for life,
He's getting bad press from the Right Wing papers because he's not a neocon. He seems to be a genuine evangelical christian who takes all those things literally. The others do it just to pander to the religious voters.
He's not a neocon, therefore he won't get any support from the right wing media.
Rudy Giuliani is Murdochs man. It will be interesting to see if he actually pulls of the nomination.
Murdoch is for Hillary.
These remarks by Huckabee were made 15 years ago.
What is his present view?
As to AIDS being a 'dangerous public health risk', it is.
I've been working in an HIV-AIDS clinic for over five years as a volunteer; and I've made a lot of friends there during this time.
We would agree, to a certain extent, that AIDS is a dangerous public health risk.
The problem with Huchabee's statement is that quarantine and isolation of the victims is not a proper answer to the problem.
There are other areas of Huckabee's policies that worry me much more than this one.
This wacko wants to get into the White House so bad and all so he can
push the big button that will kill us all...that's how Huckabee strikes me
and the more shit that comes out about him the more insane he seems
to be!
"homosexuality could “pose a dangerous public health risk.”"
Time to round up all republicans and send them to Iran, they know how to deal with them...
I doubt NYP is all that worthy to read, it's competitor in its category, the National Enquirer, sell far more rags. I did hear it was a respectable rag until Murdoch cheapened it.
News Corp endores Mr 9/11, not Huckster.
Off Topic -
On this day, 27 years ago, tragedy struck. Here is a John Lennon "Imagine" tribute video. Rest in peace, John.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LW7IefYi-U
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This whole "AIDS" thing is bogus. Go to the library and read Peter Duesberg's book, "Inventing the AIDS Virus." Go go to my website, www.bottlebrushpress.com, click on personal links and go to medical and read a few short essays on the subject. It all began back in the 1980s when some doctors at the Center for Disease Control (CDC) could not figure out why seemingly healthy young gay men were coming down with diseases typically associated with elderly junkies... Unfortunately, the doctors were too squeamish to ask the gay men about their sexual practices, and the drugs they took to facilitate said, and so, instead, their used their new scanning microscopes and discovered a tiny retrovirus, which they called HIV and then they went on to claim that said virus "caused" some two dozen traditional diseases associated with weakened immune systems.
This is the biggest medical fraud in history. Billions of dollars have been wasted and hardly anyone in the medical/corporate/government complex wants to admit it...
And the leaders of the African countries realized that if many of their traditional tropical diseases could be put under the "AIDS umbrella" that they could then get billions of dollars in aid from European countries and America. Pretty smart, huh?
Cheers.
BDM @ 20:
This is absolutely true. You can even see that he donated the maximum amount to her 2008 campaign. Look at her FEC filing.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
The NEOCONs want either Romney, Guiliani, or McCain, maybe even Thompson to win.
The only safe R. is Ron Paul.
Hillary is a NEOCON.
HILLARY CLINTON VOTED FOR IRAQ WAR - AND DONT YOU FORGET IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMgGORbd72w
so glad you are feeling better
Amberson @ 25:
I remember that well, that was the day we first got CNN on our cable system.
#26:
That is the DUMBEST thing I have ever read.
You need to re-adjust your tinfoil hat.
Don't you wish Dorsey and Mae Huckabee had let little Mikey have a puppy when he was a tad? And not beat him every time he wet the bed? And not told him ExLax was candy while they were trying to toilet-train him? And not strung his Froot Loops into anal chains to keep him from dropping them on the floor? And told him he was smart instead of stupid?
And let him go to school with the other kids? And let him know the bible wasn't the only book? And lived someplace besides Arkansas?
Poor Mikey never had a chance.
He will just say "That was 15 years ago and I was misinformed." or something like that.
It looks like Murdoch is switching sides like he did in Australia or he wants Giuliani.
I think it's remarkable that none of the Republican candidates have mentioned the fact that he pushed for the release of a serial rapist who went on to rape and kill at least twice more over pandering to the Clinton haters. THAT is the real scandal IMO. None of these people are above throwing dirt or doing push polling and other Rovian dirty tricks so why hasn't Romney come out on this? Or Giuliani? Could it be because the story was broken by the Huffingtone Post, a *sniff* liberal organization? Either way, they are going to have to bring it up soon. They can't afford not to try everything. The repug candidates bring it up and it finally gets attention in the traditional media and bye-bye cHuckabee. They need to shoot this idiot down soon. I want to face Giuliani in the general. We don't want them to run a candidate who will rally the xenophobes and xtians, we want them to run a candidate that will divide them.
The reason why the New York Post reported on this is because they want Giulianni to be the nominee. Giulianni is the one backed by all the big money Jews like Podhoretz, Kristol, and the other stooges from AIPAC, and the PNAC. Giulianni has their support because he is 100 percent garunteed to use nuclear weapons against at least Iran, and probably Syria too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Giulianni uses nuclear weapons on the Palestinian settlements in Gaza and the West Bank. The big money Jewish neocons know it, and they love Giulianni for it.
He puts Israel first, always.
#26 is right.....in a world of his own construct where science is meaningless and peer reviewed research has too many syllables. Don't adjust your tin foil hat, ball it up and then swallow it. With any kind of decent luck, nature will do the rest.
String up the barbed wire and turn on the ovens: there's a new AMERICAN HOLOCAUST coming (right on the heels of the Iraqi genocide).
james k. sayre @ 26:
Are you being serious, or did I completely miss the sarcasm buried somewhere in what you just wrote?
GOPBullshit @ 35:
Israeli newspaper polls show that Giulianni is the #1 favorite candidate among Israelis.
One of my co-workers, an Israeli American said he's voting for him. Let's just say I wasn't shocked.
james k. sayre @ 26:
Obviously, you've never watched a perfectly healthy young person, who does not use drugs, or engage in "odd" sexual behaviour, wither and wilt, very slowly at first and then with increased rapidity, until the finally expire, before your very own eyes. Until then, take your f*cking essays and shove them up your g*ddamned ass.
#26 - hillbilly playin on da internets...
Israeli newspaper polls show that Giulianni is the #1 favorite candidate among Israelis.
One of my co-workers, an Israeli American said he's voting for him. Let's just say I wasn't shocked.
It shouldn't come as a surprise. Thanks to republicans like Bush, and Giulianni, the USA will now fight all the wars Israel wants and instead of Jews dying, Americans will die instead and that doesn't matter to them a single bit.
To Israel, the USA are nothing but a bunch of useful idiots.
#26
Let me guess. Global Warming is also a conspiracy used by scientist to make money. Why don't you tell your "alternative" to African orphans.
james k. sayre @ 26:
The first part of your post can be easily dismissed as BS. The second and third paragraphs may have some merit. If you have some evidence to post, go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing how African countries are taking advantage of this and how big pharma is capitalizing as well.
HIV is a virus that attacks the body's defenses. The body becomes so weak that it is prone to diseases. At which point the person is said to have AIDS, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.
Mike Huckabee two words to you, "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE". oh, i meant three words.
Funny how when you're a quiet little governor in a small state how you can do and say what you want. When you run for POTUS all these idiotic things you say and do come back to haunt you. Then again, I kind of think that the evangelicals may like his stance on Aids. Put them all on island to rot in hell and die. Who cares if the poster boy for Aids is a little 12 year old boy named Ryan. And yes, his remarks came 2 years after Ryan died and the stigma of Aids was no longer just homosexuals and drug users. More of that compassionate conservatism.
this kind of idea about medicine makes as much since and NJ trying to mandate flu shots for kids in an age group repeated studies have shown do not work for that age group.
the sad thing is that the 30 some odd % of the voting public that still supports the GOP agenda hardcore probably thinks that it's a grand old idea. And since it is that portion of the party that will come out for an southern ex-minster over a Mormon of a Catholic in the primary are they(The Post), really hurting him? What will their position be in the general? will they actually throw their weight behind a democrat? a woman? a black? ha.. The GOP has gotten its wheels out of the rut and found themselves a nice nasty southern white guy,, romney and rudy are toast. these things are only about race and gender, sad to say,, white guys only..
The GOP race is like an arena full of acme predators. With enough time they'll destroy each other, and the survivor will be mortally wounded.
Rethinking AIDS.
Dear Friends, Wow, those steel-trapped minds of some liberals and progressives seem to have snapped shut on the delicate subject of AIDS and HIV. Oops. Perhaps you might take a few minutes out of your busy day, crack open your mind for a bit, and do a clusty or google search on “rethinking aids.” I have little faith in our federal-medical establishment. Especially once the reputations and careers of many big cheese federal medical doctors get invested in one particular notion.
Think about being a scientific detective and use the scientific method to try to come to a better understanding of things. Remember, the Catholic Church wanted to run their inquisition against Galileo because he suggested that the Earth revolved around the Sun… Establishment beliefs are tough to challenge.
Cheers.
P. S., Eric Hoffer's book The True Believer is an excellent read.
Aids is the fault of the disgusting African culture of Bushmeat consumption. Aids probably originated in chimpanzees and it was contracted by humans who ate Bushmeat.
From diseases, poaching, corruption, ignorance, and pure savagery. Africa is nothing but trouble. I would be willing to vote for ROn Paul because not only would be cut of support for Israel which would be the greatest thing to ever happen to this country since we defeated Nazi Germany, but he'd also cut off funding for Africa.
We need to give Africa about 300 or so more years to develop before we do any kind of buisness with them.
Here we go America! If we elect another so-called conservative can you imagine what this counrty will be like for another four years? Drowning in debt, more attacks on our personal freedoms, and a Supreme Court full of more Scalia's and Thomas's. I hope the press will keep digging into this guy but hey, I put to much faith in MSM.
james k. sayre @ 26:
Of course its not AIDS that kills you. The immune deficiency opens your body up to whatever opportune virii is abound! Duh!
Years from now when you're lying in your death bed, from that cold sore on your lip, you may wonder "was it that 5 or 20 dicks I had in my mouth that done me in?"
No, it was that dang rhinovirus flu.
ps. the only way you should screw your children is in your will, not up their arses.
On consideration, this is actually REALLY cool. Without the right wing machine backing the rethuglican candidate, the election will be pretty much a turkey shoot.........there are only about 45 million (1.5% although they vote in disproportionate numbers----fucking authoritarian freaks take marching orders well) fundies..........without appeal to living in a world of fear neocons, delusional Ron Paulies, or the aristocasy, , and the independent voters mostly allied with the Democrats, the election would be a MASSACRE.......
V V
I think democrats need to take a more anti-Israeli position.
Democrats need to realize that the status quo of Israel=100 percent right and everyone else is an anti-semite is not working.
I'm surprised people here haven't figured out that Huckabee's comments will strengthen him with the right-wing.
Curing AIDS with nutrition is as preposterous sounding today as curing a bafflingly complex and deadly disease like scurvy with some insignificant nutrient subsequently named ascorbic (anti-scorbutal) acid did years back.
Meanwhile, keep drinking your FDA approved benzene-preserved soft drinks, lube up with benzene preserved lube, and pay no attention to the effect of the benzene toxicity, to kick out nutrients like selenium. Just eat a balanced diet and report to the health-screening authorities to be processed and milked like cash-cattle. Let's give the outraged and indignant a big "MOO" for their brave contribution.
The problem with james k. sayer's premise is that A.I.D.S. is a distinct disease. It is not. Auto Immune Defficiency Syndrome is an effect of the HIV immunodeficiency retrovirus and many, many other causes. The famous Houston "Bubble Boy" had A.I.D.S. though in his case it was a genetic defect that caused it. Mr Sayer's premise is analagous with saying that fire caused the house to burn down, without addressing the cause of the fire.
Oh yeah, I work for a non profit that researches HIV SCIENTIFICALLY as opposed to what Mr. Sayer is spraying.
Oh yeah, AIDS is a syndrome.
"...Rebecca Culshaw, a statistical mathematician and biologist came to the conclusion that the official explanation of how AIDS is caused does not make sense, when analyzing the statistical data with a view to finding ways to overcome the syndrome. Culshaw quit her AIDS related work and she explains why in her recent article..."
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/05/18/aids_retrovirus_expressi...
Oh yeah, is there a non-profit established for finding a cure for MEDICAL NARCISSISM?
GOPBullshit @ 51:
"Disgusting African culture"?
"Africa is nothing but trouble"?
"pure savagery"?
Is that so? You're starting to sound racist.
Dana @ 22:
Please, I'm begging you...take your meds.
shhhh
we aren't supposed to talk about how wacky Huckabee is until after he wins the primary!
then once he's the republican candidate we can bust out the - lol omg you wanted to quarentine AIDS patients and believe the world is only 6,000 years old.
Huckleberry rawks!!!
the gop really really needs a fresh crop of candidates
The powers that be have NO interest in a theocrat for President. They are way too volatile and can't be controlled if they believe god is really telling them what to do. What is pathetic and amusing is how utterly clueless the religious right is how they are being used. The Repubs need their votes and will say pretty much anything to get it. But, the last thing the world's powers want is a Theo-nutball in the White House. So . . . put a fork in Hucky . . . he was done before3 he started.
any guy over 30 who is obese and loses lots of weight is most likely gay or bi
LOL
yes, these are our candidates
amberson: thanks for the reminder on lennon. sad day all the way around. i still remember watching monday night football.
I just wish to point out (for posterity only) that not much was known about AIDS in 1992. Not that Huckabee's stance on AIDS patients in 1992 was appropriate, but just to put the atmosphere of AIDS in 1992 in context.
I am from Arkansas. To make a long story short: It only gets worse with Gov. Huckelberry. If he becomes president then we all are in deep doo-doo.
fwacbar @ 23:
that's perfect. there are a lot of larry craig heterosexuals in iran.
It's because Murdoch's supporting Hillary. When Rupert Murdoch is all hugs and kisses with your preferred candidate, perhaps you ought to reconsider your preferences, because that candidate is not at all what he or she seems to be. Kiss strengthened controls on media consolidation goodbye forever if we're unlucky enough for her to win. That is not a euphemistic "forever", it is to be taken literally.
rapture bunnies belong in cages
Obviously Huckabee's a closet queen.
Huckabee said Saturday that his comments came at a time when "the AIDS crisis was just that - a crisis. We didn't know exactly all the details of how extensive it was going to be.
IN 1992!!??? Hey Huckleberry - AIDS had been recognized as a worldwide epidemic for at least 10 years prior to that. Maybe that kind of bullshit will play with the bible thumping yokels you represent, but the rest of us who are living in the 21st century know damn well that you're full of shit. Now I realize that the New York Puke is firmly in the pocket of the Giuliani campaign, but it's still kind of amusing to watch it's editors fling their feces at a GOP thug.
Andre Boulanger @ 21:
He said "homosexuality" (not AIDS) is a dangerous public health risk.
He also advocated cutting federal funding to find a cure while interning AIDS patients so that they couldn't work. Since AIDS is very difficult to treat and since interning people would prevent them from paying for drugs to keep themselves alive, Huckabee was advocating DEATH CAMPS for people with AIDS. This is unforgivable.
Since my comments yesterday did not fully explain my position, I present below
the introduction to the www.rethinkingaids.com web site.
Cheers.
The www. rethinking aids .com website
Welcome From Etienne de Harven, MD, President of Rethinking AIDS 

I am very pleased to welcome all the visitors of the new Rethinking AIDS (RA) website!
As many of you are probably aware, RA has been re-activated and re-organized since late 2005. Thanks to the expertise and dedication of the thirteen highly motivated Members of RA Board of Directors, new bylaws have been drafted and recently approved, and a President, a Treasurer (David Crowe) and a Webmaster (Bryan Owen) have been appointed. The goals and purpose of RA have been defined, and its involvement has been stressed in a world-wide effort to 1) eradicate the dogma according to which an elusive retrovirus is the cause of the syndrome, and 2) support research and public awareness on possible alternative causes of the disease. These topics were the central focus of an important meeting of the RA Board of Directors that took place in New York City, on June 10-11, 2006.
Unquestionably, AIDS is a dramatic aspect of human pathology, first recognized in 1981, in the Los Angeles area, among a small group of gay men. The definition of the syndrome has been changed several times, and considerable differences exist between what is called AIDS in North America and Europe, and what is called AIDS in Africa. Despite these differences, research aimed at curing and hopefully preventing the syndrome has been, for the past 23 years, exclusively and dramatically restricted to one single, totally unproven hypothesis; i.e., the hypothetical role of a retrovirus identified as 'HIV' in 1984. Stubborn dogmatic adherence, by the entire academic community, to this unreasonable hypothesis can only be explained by a desperate effort to salvage the reputation of many cancer research laboratories that had been highly biased, between 1960 and 1980, in large programs aimed at demonstrating that retroviruses are involved in the causation of human cancer.
Hypothesizing, without any trace of scientific evidence, that a retrovirus was the cause of AIDS permitted the perpetuation of retroviral research highly profitable for the pharmaceutical business, and avoided embarrassing closures of many retrovirus oriented laboratories.
The retrovirus hypothesis was presented 23 years ago, and the entire, world-wide research effort on AIDS has been restricted to that unique hypothesis ever since. Most dramatically, the clear evidence, in 2007, is that this hypothesis totally failed to help. Based on that single and scientifically unproven hypothesis, AIDS research failed to deliver any curative AIDS therapy, it never permitted scientists to prepare a reliable vaccine, and it never led to verifiable epidemiologic predictions. As early as 1987, Peter Duesberg had the courage and scientific authority to ring the alarm bell. In doing so, he has been the scientific founder of the Rethinking AIDS movement of 'Dissidents' ('The Group'), that was crystallized in 1991 by the historic statement that has been supported and signed by more than 2,300 concerned scientists (including two Nobel laureates) and innumerable attentive rethinkers from other fields. Cancer research had been put on the wrong track by placing emphasis on an enzyme 'marker' of cancer cells in 1970; AIDS research has been put on the wrong track by hypothesizing retroviral causation in 1984.
In order to accelerate general awareness of this disastrous situation, Rethinking AIDS (RA) has been, recently, setting up several mechanisms. It has created the website you are currently visiting, it has appointed a Public Relations task force for the presentation of professionally formatted messages to the media, it is organizing one annual Board of Directors general meeting, and it is currently reactivating contact with our 2,300 signatories of the 1991 statement. This shall soon permit us to start a fundraising program. The money raised will be used for setting up dissident conferences, publishing dissident books and lectures, creating dissident films and videos, advising the victims of the HIV fear campaign paradigm, educating the public on matters related to alternative, non toxic protocols for consolidating immune responses, and educating the public on the unacceptable toxicity of so-called antiretroviral drugs as well as on the total lack of specificity of so-called seropositivity tests. The ambition of RA is to lead this struggle on a world-wide basis. RA’s ultimate goal is to rapidly contribute to the final implosion of the HIV=AIDS=Death paradigm. Nothing less!
The RA Board of Directors is the main operational body supporting this ambitious and urgent program (see the Board section on this website for all names and short CVs). The strength of the Board is in the diverse background of its members. Some are academic scientists; some are highly dedicated rethinkers, for many years, in the dissident movement. You shall find many documents written by them at this website. Obviously, they don’t all share identical views on some detailed points of the HIV debate. They are, however, forming a strongly united group. United because they all share the scientifically based opinion according to which: a) AIDS is not an infectious disease; b) AIDS is not caused by a retrovirus; c) serological and viral load tests are not reliable for the diagnosis of AIDS; d) HAART drugs do more harm than good; e) adequate public hygiene and sanitation, well balanced nutrition, and curtailing the use of recreational drugs can prevent and control AIDS much better than all the toxic ARV therapeutic regimens; and f) several alternative and non-viral factors can explain the occurrence of most acquired immuno deficiencies in humans. This is a lot to agree about!
Sloan @ 2:
Well, guess what. The NY Post wants their candidate: Giuliani. Duh.
Can we get a ban on the conspiracy theorist spammers like "james k. sayre", please?
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