The O'Reilly Fallacy: The Left Wants To Keep Jesus In The Presidential Campaign
By Nicole Belle Thursday Dec 13, 2007 11:50am
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Truly, is there anyone less logical and self-aware than Bill O'Reilly? Well, I guess anyone who watches Bill and believes him (as opposed to using him for comic relief).
Billo brings on former White House Spokesman Tony Snow to agree with him that the left and their media are completely out of touch with America. Actually, I just described EVERY O'Reilly Factor show, didn't I? However, in yesterday's edition of "When did I wake up on this side of the looking glass?" O'Reilly claims that it is the left wants the election to be all about Jesus so they don't have to deal with the areas in which they're weak:
O’REILLY: There have been more questions on religion than terrorism. If the media can keep the argument on Jesus, and not on terrorism, taxes, redistribution of income, all of these things that the Democrats might have a little problem with, then that’s a big win for the Democrats. Keep it on Jesus, keep it into the bible thumping ‘he’s a Baptist, he’s a Mormon, Giuliani married three times.’ Keep it there and you win, that’s a good strategy, Snow!
SNOW: Ah you know what? I don’t think they’re going to beat Jesus.
Um, yeah. That's why the Republican candidate Mitt Romney had to talk about faith equaling freedom--because the left wanted him to. And that's why Huckabee's website has a banner that says "Faith.Family.Freedom" in that order--because the left wanted him to. And why the right came to McCain's defense when he called the U.S. a "Christian nation"--because the left wanted him to.
And Bill, when did "redistribution of income" become a rallying cry of the right? Did you get your talking points mixed up?
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Incoherent much?
I must admit I couldn't fill one hour of air time five times a week with substantive dialog either....
O'really can put a sock in it.
That guy has the intelligence of a pheasant.
McDuff @ 2:
That's not really a fair statement. From what I understand pheasants can see and recognize color. O'Reilly is only willing to see things in Blue, Red, Black, and White.
I imagine the baby jesus doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.
"Leaveth me out of this"
That screen shot is the perfect definition of a sh*t sandwich: two pieces of white bread idiots with Repub talking points in the middle.
Redistribution of income has always been a Republican issue--redistributing from the poor to the rich.
WTEff ?! If its the only one thing I hear clearly and loudly from the Repub debates, is the word "Jaayysus", about how each candidate best represent Jaayyysus, no, not the public, of course not, its Jjaaayyysus.
"They (Liberals) are trying to mock religion.", Tony Snow.
This from the mouth piece of the Anti-Christ President (the abomination that causes desolation) who started a war for the F*ck of it.
Thank you Tony for that clear choice.
And the conniving Democrats made Bush and Laura put a hard-core Bible verse on their 2007 Christmas card. The'yre so slick, them Dems.
Seriously, where does he get this stuff? I saw the other night on FOX News that they thought that the "epidemic" of urban teens in Atlanta wearing pants really low was because that they were too thin. Do they all just live in the same bubble as President Bush????
If Jesus came back and saw this whole cluster, he would nail himself back up on a cross.
Huckabee, Romney treat religion like they're going to a buffet lunch... a little of this and a little of that. Either you embrace Christianity (or Mormonism) as a whole, or just put it aside.
Oh I get it, you ask the party of faith questions about their faith then you are asking to many questions.
My new bracelet: WWJVF (who would Jesus vote for?). My new bumper sticker: Jesus loves Obama!
It's from the OT, also:
http://monoblogue.us/?p=748
Snow the bastard son of O'Wrinkly.
the republikkkans always do this....take the very thing they are doing and then point fingers in the other direction. i don't know if this has a technical name...but it's redefining hypocrisy
Can someone good at photoshop put jesus in one of those suits?
While the left is talking taxes, foreign policy, and domestic spending what are the republicans debating about
Who does Jesus have the biggest man-crush on, romaine or hockaloogy?
pissed off patricia @ 4:
All babies know how to fill a diaper, but maybe little JC -- being special -- will be able to throw one of his at Bill?
(And, Nicole, I don't think Bill O is in favor of "income redistribution." He's trying to remind his audience -- and who/what are they?!?-- that the Dems want to do just that. What a horrible thing, to redistribute income from the rich to the non-rich. How much better, in the Neocon universe, to destroy the dollar so that any "redistribution" is moot.)
pissed off patricia @ 4:
Or poop?
No, you can't beat Jesus. But you can string him up on a cross for being a friend to the poor who advocated humility, and was an anti-violence activist.
I taste irony.
Clear proof the right makes stuff up. The only ones I've heard talking about religion lately are the Republican candidates trying to out-Christian each other.
McDuff @ 2:
Where does a pheasant stand on religion? Are they like pigeons?
Pigeons land on churches. What religion are they?
Do they land on the church of their faith?
(They also shit on those churches.)
I guess that answers my question. :)
Wow. Why stop there? Let's use our Amazing Lefty Power to tell the Right to disband the Republic Party, give all their money and worldly possessions to charities and causes of our choosing and have all the republics running for prez spend the rest of their lives in penance, scrubbing the tattered skins of an island full of lepers, never to be heard in American political discourse ever again. Go on! Go! You can join them, too, Billo.
I miss the Colbert report. But Papa bear is a good substitute
i was talking to sweet jesus yesterday and he told me to tell billo
"TO SUCK IT !"
Not going to beat Jesus? Jesus is going to beat all of you neocon shitheads. Actually he's going to send you someplace really warm for all your holier than thou bullshit for political gain.
Go fuck yourself, Tony.
Thank God we aren't talking about O'Reilly assaulting his mangina while talking dirty on the phone.
-GSD
This doesn't even make sense. Anybody who listens to Bill O'Reilly just can't be capable of thinking for themselves. The right OWNS the media. I could write a string of obscenities here but I'll refrain.
I hope Tony Snow can feel better knowing that many of us libruls will not beat Jesus if we happen to run into him anytime soon.
Being called "out of sinc" with mainstream America is the nicest thing anyone has said about me all day.
xoites defends Constitution @ 33:
Yeah I soitenly wouldn't wanna be N'Sync.
Where was o'really on the great Obama is a Muslim controversy?
PRAISE Jesus, and pass the ammo!
Another day, another freak with the big old ugly freak.
bill-o-job + tony snow-job = blo-job
Foxes pathetic attempt at mimizing the fact that their candidates are zealots....pure and simple. Sorry Billy, you arent fooling the people who know better anymore. Just the fools you spew your rhetoric to every night.
Nicole,
In the campaigns of the elder President Bush, "Socialism" was a rallying cry on the right.
not one troll here. not one.
joe cantwell @ 41:
They do appear to be pretty thick today.
WOW! Never thought I'd hear billo say the "left" is more Christ-like then the criminals. Funny though how he goes on to say the "left" is weak in exactly all the areas they are better then the criminals.
Man.. those wingnuts better stop listening to the moonbats or they're going to lose.
I'd be happy to hear billo and the faux crowd spin redistribution of income though. I don't think there are too many working class Americans who have any illusions about how that's going the past few years.
has anybody else observed that Tony Snow is looking a lot like Max Headroom?
we ain't 20 minutes into the future are we??
It doesn't matter what the election is "about." The Repubs are going to get their stank asses handed to them.
Coherence @ 40:
Don't forget "Class Warfare" which they eschew but are winning dramatically.
duncanidho @ 46:
Bingo!
SNOW: Ah you know what? I don’t think they’re going to beat Jesus.
If Jesus were alive and in America today, Bush would have him locked up in Gitmo and throw away the key. These bastards are just vile hypocrites of the highest order.
What christian could support men like these?
Anyone out there twenty minutes into the future want to call me when the number comes out tonight?
somehow, when the elections are over , I fear the current adminisration did enough damage that the losers are us, no matter who wins.
So all the so-called "values" voters should vote Democratic next year?
Rusty Shackleford @ 47:
Heard last in December of 2003.
One other time too I remember. Let me Google it.
Oh yes, December of 1999.
The only reason the right is pushing theocracy is that it's the only thing that they realize can distinguish them from democrats. Clinton was a successful inasmuch as he adopted the Republican agenda (e.g., ending welfare, embracing NAFTA) - his "triangulation" strategy left the GOP with nothing to distinguish their party but their so-called puritanical (and hypocritical) morality. Add to this their pathological borrow-and-spend policies, and the GOP has self-exorcised the only genuine principle they had left.
The only thing they have now are the Father Coughlins, anxious to compensate for their own demons, by projecting them onto everyone else.
The American Taliban, struggling to take us back to the 19th century.
but Tony is going to have his one on one with the flying spa -getti monster soon, so I guess he's trying to suck up now while he still can.
which lotto number we talking?? MD, VA , or DC? (I don't think DC has a lotto, unless you are talking about who makes it into the shelter this weekend, cold snap acoming)
Dennis @ 54:
Ha. Keep dreaming, junior. One word: "Iraq." Bam! Democratic victory.
See ya.
Dennis @ 54:
You might Google "October 2006" if you're Googling finger isn't all pooped out.
Ooh... that's gotta hurt.
William and Angela O'Reilly should have used rubbers
Would Bill O'Reilly be a nicer and more tolerant person if he was a Christian?
Rusty,
Didn't know you had your own blog, The Jawa Report. You're the man!
Well, I see that Tony Snowjob is still alive and obviously he's not afraid of arriving at the gates of hell fairly soon.
Dennis @ 61:
That's a different Rusty. He's "Dr." Rusty Shackleford.
I'm all for the media calling out the theocratic nuts. Jesus H Christ, haven't we seen the results of this with Bush and his talks with Jesus?
OK...all joking aside...is it just me...or does snowjob look like he's trying to fart?
SNOW: Ah you know what? I don't think they're going to beat Jesus.
JESUS QUINTANA: You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
The way to frame re-disitrubution of income - should the GOPers bring it up this time around - is that we already are redistributing income in this country (at least since Reagan); sending it from your wallet to healthcare CEO's or from your bank account to ExxonMobils. Or to Blackwater. Or to Halliburton. All the Dems want to do is turn the redistrbution around, to make it move from top to bottom.
Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly.
Seriously, can't we have an ATHEIST or an AGNOSTIC or SECULAR president?
I am so sick of this Jesus crap from politicians. The Bible, The Torah, The Quran are MYTHS! Books of fiction! With a little history thrown in.
Why aren't most Americans smart enough to see that?
*sigh*
What is it with all these republicans? They always project: BillO's biggest fear is that the left will start talking about redistribution of income - or economic justice. They keep saying that the lefties are going to start talking about the Class warfare, but the only class warfare is coming from the right. Idiots should keep their mouth shut, but sadly, no they won't!
Giuliani married three times??
He's upset that somebody's bringing up a politician's personal proclivities? The Falafel Guy is definitely confused. I'd like to challenge him to a duel.
Also, eris(#66). Eight-year-olds, dude.
Mike Mid City @ 9:
This from the Bushco mouthpiece that couldn't live on $140,000 a year.
can we declare a moratorium on this idiot? PLEASE?
votingvet @ 21:
A huge part of the non-rich are create by the tax breaks given to the rich. Such as allowing engineers from foreign countries here on vistas to take american engineers jobs,giving companies tax breaks for downsizing and laying off workers while outsourcing those same jobs,laying off older workers to hire younger healthier workers to cut costs, which is against the law but why would they can about that.I know this to be true because I've seen it all up until I was laid off at sixty.
HEADLINE---> JESUS WANTS TO KEEP O’Reilly OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN
SNOW: Ah you know what? I don’t think they’re going to beat Jesus.
Is Tony Snow implying that no matter the Republican nominee, that he is really Jesus' proxy?
eris @ 66:
Here thou goest:
http://talesofanintrovert.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/jcvh_lg.jpg
The left want to keep religion an issue in the media?! What?!
Apparently BillO hasn't heard his FOX comrade, Sean Insannity, bring up Obama's church and the "kind of faith" that's preached there. Newshounds has all Insannity's past hatred with regards to Obama's church documented. Last time I checked, Insannity wasn't part of the left.
Once Huckabee heard Dobson and his ilk whine about none of the candidates are Christian enough to get their vote (Mormons don't count in Dobson's world), that's when the Huckster started his evangelical revival tour. Last time I checked, Hucky wasn't part of the left.
John "I must be drunk" Gibby and Steve Douchebag, both of FOX, started the TV repetition that Obama was raised in a madrassa and attend a mosque with his friend (both of which, in FOX news world, mean that Obama is probably a Muslim). Last time I checked, Gibby and Douchebag weren't a part of the left.
BillO is the most stupid man on earth to ignore all the obvious examples of the RIGHT keeping religion in the media. And what's with lumping "Giuliani married three times" in with the Romney is a Mormon and Huckabee is a Baptist analogy? Why didn't he say Giuliani is a Catholic?
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And just WHO is it that's parading their "WAR ON CHRISTMAS" each day they are on Fox Propaganda Network?
LOL
O'Liely IS the joke.
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O'Reilly is so misinformed if he thinks religion is a left issue in this election. It only matters to the right wing and he damn well knows it. He's spinning like a madman in his own "no spin" zone.
Btw, has O'Reilly covered the rape of the KBR employee who was held in a container box? Is he helping her to try and get justice by using the airwaves of his radio and TV shows? No, you say? Hmm, I thought O'Reilly is supposed to look out for the folks? Oh, doesn't look out for the folks if it means making the tools of BushCo (like KBR) look bad, you say? Wow, who would have thought....
O course, I can't watch Bill O. I did read this post and figure it must be George Soros (aka Dr. Evil) working his magic on Republican candidates, unbeknownst to them. H'e some powerful Dr. Evil!!! Beware.
Wingnut candidate: Vote for me, because I believe the bible is literally true! Don't vote for Such-and-such, since he doesn't!
Reality-based community: You are a biblical literalist? You mean you really believe the earth is 6000 years old and that there was a global flood? That's kind of a strange belief system you have there. It conflicts with reality. Now I wonder whether I should vote for you.
Wingnut candidate: Hey, no fair! You can't refuse to vote for me because of my religion!
These 2 are NUTS!!!
They appear to be doing a christo-fascist-right-wing-double-reach-around.
There were stories centuries before the books of the bible were written that exactly coincided with the life of christ, the story of moses, noah, etc. The bible is made up of variations of these old myths. I think the old testament is filled with hate, racism, and immoral killing of innocent men, woman and children so god's chosen ones could take their land. My advice would be to follow the teachings of christ in the new testament (the dude that the religion is named after; christianity, remember?). Love, peace, turn the other cheek. He kinda was rebelling against his dad's philosophy of "an eye for an eye" don't you think? Bottom line, treat other people like you would want to be treated.
So, if I understood Tony Snow correctly --uhh, The Democrats are trying to demonize Jesus.
Wow, I feel relieved now that politics in America is moving back to the center. I've always believed balance is the best way.
charles @ 19:
Here's a little somethin-somethin:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_Mh1TZAM-AWU/R1ysOaRhv3I/AAAAAAAAAoE/BS_MHikWX7o/...
Mike Mid City @ 9:
This is NOT about religion. This is about FASCISM.
Isn't Baloney Snow dead yet?
I think he's fucking faking it. He's had cancer seven or eight times... lost count... for the past fifteen to twenty years.
You'd a thought the disease would've raced through his raggedy ass carcass and planted the bastard in a custom tailored dirt shirt years ago.
C'mon doG, get jiggy wit it!
Well, at least he got somebody impartial on to discuss what them "libruls" think.
It's not like he put Rush or someone from the Bush White House on to back him up.
Thank god we can always find a "fair and balanced" perspective at Fox.
Could someone please sit outside O'Reilly's house some Sunday to see if he heads out to Mass at any time. Yeah, I know he can go on Saturday night, but I think he's most likely to do porn on Saturday and God on Sunday.
Or, if it seems too much like stalking, I think we can figure out which Catholic parish he belongs to. Someone could sit in or outside his Church instead.
Or maybe an APB for anyone who knows what parish he goes to for a report on how often he shows up.
My bet is his Sunday worship involves Irish whiskey.
What a f*cking idiot. The democrats could care less about the GOP right now, they're trying to choose the next president.
And what is this 'Snow' business Reilly?
Anonymouse @ 55:
Actually, that gives me a helluva (no pun intended) idea. Put the Crusaders from Medieval ages in modern-day America.
Here's how it'd go:
"Howdy stranger, wanna learn about Jesus?"
"Do you serve the Holy Church of Rome under His Holiness Urban II?"
"No, you see, Catholics are lost."
"Lost?"
"Pagan."
"YOU SERVETH NOT THE HOLY CHURCH OF ROME? BURN INFIDEL!"
"Oh shit."
So how's that War on Christmas going, Orally? Any new secular conspiracies to take over America and further persecute the religious right?
Oh, you're not talking religion right now. You want us to ignore it when convenient. Got it.
What was telling for me was that Tony Snow believes that the journalist community is non-observant and tends to dismiss Christians as quacks even though Christians form the backbone of this country numbering 225 million. He also spouts something about Christianity being the fastest growing religion. True worldwide but not true in the US where Islam is the fastest growing off a very small base. But that aside, his argument that just because they are a majority that doesn't make them quacks is specious at best. It in fact makes them rather dangerous quacks who live in ignorance pretty much willingly or otherwise who could account for such stupidity?
facta non verba
San Francisco, CA
Since they wore out the GAYS and the GUN cards, they're giving the God card one more chance.
There people would be quick to swiftboat Jesus..
It's "funny" how incompatible their beliefs really are.
Billo Reilly, Tony Snow and Fox News are a bunch of liars.
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/martyr.jpg
I actually for the first time some what agree with BIllo.
CNN didnt bring up religion with the Dem debate, but made it the focus of the GOP debate.
Um... Why not ask the same questions to both candidates?
I blame CNN but , i blame the entire MSM & Govt.
Bill just doesnt want what we dont want: "Not talking about the real issues"
Anyone who flamed billo here missed the bigger point. For once there is a uniting factor on the factor! ;)
But Billo is still a mega douchebag turd eating pig faced walking talking anus with a microphone and a tv show.
People who call O'Reilly stupid are selling him short. I think he's an intelligent guy who knows exactly what he's doing. He's doing what he gets paid to do- sell stupid philosophies to stupid people.. with lucrative ad breaks. He's selling dumb people what they want to hear- that they are right, and anyone with a differing opinion is a god hating, terrorist loving dirty f~cking hippy and in the minority lunatic fringe.
facta non verba @ 94:
A lot of people claim to be christians who are not. In many places you are a social outcast if you don't pretend to be christian. Bush did a good job of this at first but the charade has been exposed. I myself stop believing in any form of superstition about the time I stopped believing in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.
We're praying for this country.
www.choosejesusrightnow.com
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