Lambert over at Corrente noticed this little tidbit that Mike Huckabee definitely doesn't want to have brought up:

Here's the barebones story of how 18-year-old Mike Huckabee's son, David, and 17-year-old Clayton Frady killed a dog when they were Boy Scouts, and got fired for it. From the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in 1998 (as quoted in DogBlog):

[David Huckabee,] the younger son of Gov. Mike Huckabee and another teen were fired last month from jobs at a Boy Scout camp after the killing of a stray dog.[..]

So, how and why did David Huckabee (and Clayton Frady) kill the dog?

The original story isn't clear in the lead (the admissions and the details come as you read down). Still from the Democrat Gazette:

The dog was killed [passive voice] July 11 at Camp Pioneer near Hatfield.[..]

I believe the following is the faxed description of the "particular process." It's on a reputable site, Utopia Animal Rescue, which is run by, of all people, Kinky Freidman:

(Miller County, Arkansas) Two boy scout counselors, 17 year old Clayton Frady and 18 year old David litickabee [sic], the son of Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death.

Lambert notices that Michael Isikoff's coverage of the story for Newsweek is particularly lacking in investigative curiosity on how David Huckabee killed the dog, which as you can see above, really does color the event.

Digby's on top of this too. The Huckster's son seems to be a real winner and his father tried to cover up his sick, twisted behavior -- the same kind of behavior that landed former NFL star Michael Vick in prison.



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Beyond sick.

What is it with repiglicans and abuse against women, children and animals?
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Huckleberry Jr. didn't torture and kill the animal, he subjected it to enhanced interrogation and then the animal committed suicide in order to embarrass him.

They obviously abuse food too....

Try mixing in a salad from time to time, would you?

They have a wait problem.... they can't wait to eat.

Sick bastards. All of them.

Well yeah. Future serial killers of America. Why not have one of those running around DC under daddy's protection.

Ugh.

Trittydi: "What is it with repiglicans and abuse against women, children and animals?"

Power. It's the only way to get a rush of power adrenalin for those who are inherently weak, yet crave to prove otherwise.

I donno about the dog story, and I know this is an ad hominem observation, but do we really want all those chubby bubbas living in the White House? What an ugly potential First Family!

Like father like son ...

I love all the dirt coming out on all these republican losers.

It just makes Ron Paul look better and better.........there is no dirt left on him.

Each one will be brought down [Deleted. Off topic-Sitemonitor]

which one of those fat pigs in the picture is the dog killin' psychopath?

nice shirts by the way...are those PRISON issue?

i wonder what tax hike mike's daughter has to "submit" to?

OMG - I just took a good look at that family portrait. That family tree doesn't branch. They definitely need some chlorine in the gene pool.

I hope that wasn't the dog that was killed.

Nice f*ckin' picture. What are they, a circus act??

You have to be a violent sicko to run for president on the GOP ticket. (Bush is-- he blew up frogs and authorized TORTURE!!!!!) Sons of "normal" families don't behave that way.

Wow. That family snapshot looks like a 'before' picture from Weight Watchers.

Sure little David didn't EAT that dog?

Heinous. That's outrageous, and sickening. and I've only begun to talk about the matching shirts.

If ever you wondered what kind of people raise up serial killers, look no further than the above photo. I wouldn't socialize with that sort of family, much less trust them with our government.

Just what we need, another sociopath in the White House. Bush Jr.'s Grandfather was famous for killing a guy's cat and then serving it to him in a stew.

Are those stripy jail shirts a part of the original picture, or were they photoshopped?

myiq2xu @ 2:

Huckleberry Jr. didn't torture and kill the animal, he subjected it to enhanced interrogation and then the animal committed suicide in order to embarrass him.

myiq2xu is code for Glenn Beck?? Tune into CNN for the rest of this story.

Psychologists have known for a long time that a youthful penchant for sadistic acts against animals is a good guide to future psychopathic behavior.

Bush spent many an idyllic summer's day as a lad catching frogs and torturing them to death.

QED.

Which one of his fat kids is the dog killer? They both look shifty.

Ahh what a fine christian family. Puke!

Those sons are dead ringers for Fatty Arbuckle and Chris Farley.

Terrible story. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

And lay off the fried chicken and biscuits.

We see once again how those with power, and their loved ones, can avoid punishment for the laws that the rest of us have to follow.

But Huckabee is a member in good standing of the religious-right, and IOKIYARRR.

Annoyed Canuck @ 10:

Wow. That family snapshot looks like a 'before' picture from Weight Watchers.

Sure little David didn't EAT that dog?

That photo reminds me of the cheer led by the black cheerleaders in "Wildcats."

"U-G-L-Y, you ain't got no alibi, you're ugly!"

Man, that whole family needs to get acquainted with Dr Atkins. It does not seem to day which kid is the sadist, but my money is on top row, dead center. He looks like one of those 'Far Side' dudes.

Annoyed Canuck @ 10:

Wow. That family snapshot looks like a 'before' picture from Weight Watchers.

Sure little David didn't EAT that dog?

Perhaps they mistook the dog for road kill. They didn't realize the stray dog was alive, and were just dressing it...

Otay @ 22:

Annoyed Canuck @ 10:

Wow. That family snapshot looks like a 'before' picture from Weight Watchers.

Sure little David didn't EAT that dog?

Perhaps they mistook the dog for road kill. They didn't realize the stray dog was alive, and were just dressing it...

And tenderizing it with the stones...

Just your average SoBap family. /snark

christian moral

values must have been

instilled in the boy from an early age

heh...

Edwin @ 9:

Nice f*ckin' picture. What are they, a circus act??

Yeah, they call themselves "The Aristocrats."

Good Christian Boys ... it might have been a Sacrifice to the Sky guy, so we have to cut the boys some room here. (snark)

What is it with all the fat comments?! Grow up, people! Weight has absolutely jack sh*t to do with morals.

That Mike Huckabee's son tortured and killed a dog is seriously sick and mentally-disturbed behaviour. As one commenter pointed out, serial killers usual start on animals. I sincerely hope Huckabee got some professional help for his son.

Knowing the prevalence of denial among rightwing Christians, however, I suspect he didn't. In which case, we can expect eventually to hear of future frightening and tragic exploits.

I was confused and then I noticed they were seperated into two distinct genders by the clever use of excessive weight.

Oh, and I have it on good authority that the animal abuser is the one smiling at the camera wearing the blue and white striped shirt.

And Huckabee believes that folks with AIDS (read homosexuals) should be quarantined? How about his own sadistic kid? He just loses a job over this atrocity? The bastard should have gone to jail - but then Huckabee would have gotten him out, just like he released a rapist and murderer to satisfy GOP wackos. And me, the atheist who believes in Science and Humanism, is the bad person in this country. No wonder Huckabee doesn't believe in evolution - his family was left behind in that regard, it seems.

Thanks for the link. Hey, Bud from Legal told me to plaster "alleged" all over this thing, so consider it plastered. That said, what you need to do, to understand this story, is ask yourself the following question:

So how, exactly, did David Huckabee (and fellow scout Clayton Frady) kill the dog if there were no adults present and they had no gun?

The answer is not pretty:

The only way I can see (as I argued previously) is that Huckabee and Frady worked with the tools to hand. That is, they would have used their Scout knives, their Scout ropes and/or belts, and possibly any rocks they found in the woods. Just as, in fact, the Utopia Animal Rescue fax said.

Of course, one might conclude that Republicans, in general, are kinked about animals. Enough data points to make a very disturbing trend:

We’ve got Rick Santorum’s obsession with “man on dog” sex, we’ve got Bill “Hello Kitty” Frist stealing cats from the pound, treating them like pets, and only then dissecting them, we’ve got George Felix Allen “shoving” a severed deer’s head into a mailbox, we’ve got Bush himself blowing up frogs by shoving firecrackers up their ass and lighting the fuse, we’ve got one Janet Rowland comparing gay marriage to a man marrying a sheep, and of course, we’ve got Willard Mitt Romney strapping his dog Seamus on top of his car until a “brown liquid” ran down the back window.

It's all about mortifying the flesh of others. Goes for torture, too, of course.

But at least the Huckabee family is beating out the Romney family in the "How best can we abuse a dog" primary!

Actually the family portrait at his website includes the three kids and a dog. Everyone appears very heavy. I know that Huckabee has lost a good deal of weight over the past few years. His son has not.
Weren't there episodes of Bush doing similar things as a child? Killing animals is just before setting fires in the - oh crap the kid's a psychopath - alarm system.

Didn't Jeffrey Dahmer do that as a boy too? Well, it is Arkansas, maybe its just good 'eatin.

When Did Hee Haw come back on TV?

Oh, and I know that the Aristocrats comment is meant as a joke, but it's a joke with more than a grain of truth in it.

After all, running a state like a personal fiefdom and giving your family special treatment is what real-world aristocracies are all about, isn't it?

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Yupps. A true portrait of the strain on our healthcare system-driving our costs up.

Makes me wonder how Huckster disciplined his son. Or maybe he didn't.

This is beyond reprehensible. Those boys were role-playing murder. It's a wonder they didn't grab some kid from the "wrong side of the tracks." They did this so they could experience what it feels like to viciously kill a living creature. Very sick, indeed.

My gawd, those shirts, what are they trying to do, hypnotize people?

lambert strether @ 34:

Oh, and I know that the Aristocrats comment is meant as a joke, but it's a joke with more than a grain of truth in it.

After all, running a state like a personal fiefdom and giving your family special treatment is what real-world aristocracies are all about, isn't it?

Actually I was referring to something else. From Wikipedia:

The Aristocrats (also known as The Debonaires or The Sophisticates in some tellings) is an exceptionally transgressive dirty joke that has been told by numerous stand-up comedians since the vaudeville era.

Nice picture. Kudos to the Huckabees for color coding by gender so we wouldn't be flummoxed as to which were the male members of the family.

As usual, the MSM isn't covering the REAL story here.

To wit: that dog was gathering sticks on the Sabbath.

The bible says this is a death penalty offense.

So, he was just doing what was right.

yes. it looks like those boys have been swallowing alot of guilt (along with alot of cheesburgers, har-de-har).

welcome to the big leagues, boys.

To focus on the things that actually matter here instead of insulting the Huckabees' weight (which is silly):

1. Torturing and killing an animal like this, at any age, is a severe warning sign of a bigger mental problem. The thing is 18 year olds don't just do things like this randomly. This could very well be pattern behavior. On the legal level, the younger Huckabee should have at least gotten some sort of state mandated counseling. (on a personal note, the fact that this guy was a scout, and at his age probably an assistant scoutmaster, really burns me. I am an Eagle Scout and because I'm gay, many would say i'm not 'morally straight' enough to hold the honour, but a deranged guy who can so openly shit on the scout code, that's ok).

2. I'm slightly more concerned about him trying to smuggle that weapon on board an aircraft last year (see Digby). Gun toting loonies always scare me, especially if they live in a out-in-the-middle-of-frickin-nowhere-where-violent-crime-happens-on-nowhere-near-the-scale-that-would-justify-being-so-fearful-of-it state. We REALLY need the 'if everyone carried guns, there'd be no crime!' president! Riiiight. Frickin scary.

3. The fact that Huckabee might have used his position to get his son off the hook in the 1998 case shows his inability to recuse himself from a decision of import when he morally must, and THAT means he is completely unqualified to be President.

And that third one is the one we should hammer home to the rest of the country should Huckabee get nominated.

"the family that slays together, stays together"-Chuck Norris to Huck

Mike Huckabee's kid is a dog murderer, his sons look like fat retards, and Huckabee's camel toe on that photo is even worse to look at than the matching shirts. Oh, I'm sick about this whole thing, to be honest. What kind of demented scuzz would do such a thing to a stray dog? I have no doubt that his Daddy tried to shush this up. Those Republicans hate facing anything that makes them look bad, except for matching shorts from Sears. Apparently, that is OK with these people. Very weird.

Tell me fellow Americans is this the picture we really want to show the world?
I think not. The French and Japanese see us like this already.

An average joe/jane can tell there is something very, very wrong in this family.
ohhh, the secrets I don't even want to go there.
Now excuse me while I go barfff.

Obama08'

Surprise, Surprise!!!!

So FucKKKabee is as corrupt as any other repug!

Who knew???

:lol: :lol:

Eh, Huckabee made weight an issue, so it's all fair game. Granted his weight loss crusade has nothing to do with torturing and killing animals, but it does give us a glimpse into his role as a family leader.

psst, to my canine friends, if you see a republican coming, run like hell. run, run, run, run, run....

and, like mike 'thy name is theocrat' huckabee, i bet the young-torturer huckabee had a nice demeanor, big smile and polite disposition while he slowly killed the stray dog.

***beep, be-beep, beep*** THIS JUST IN: it seems that the huckabee campaign just rec'd endorsements from torquemada and vlad the impaler!!! wow, in one fell swoop huckabee gets torture-support, stealing it from the jaws of ghouliani, and mitt omni-position! with these endorsements the ghouliani and omni-position campaign teams will have to ratchett up their calls--like, the use of thumbscrews for truants, iron maidens for jaywalkers and the rack for line-jumpers (no, it is not a sport).

Brynn is right... what's with you people and fat jokes?... It's embarrassing...

There's so much wrong about this story (the dog angle... those shirts!) without resorting to that kind of crap...

Question time: Do you get mad at right-wingers when they mock the way Hillary or Chelsea look?... Did you get mad at Ann Coulter when she said that crap about Clinton, Gore and Edwards?...

Answer time: THEN KNOCK IT OFF! Resorting to that only lessens your ability to make a point.

I love Lambert and the rest of the gang at Corrente. Sucha great blog. Just sayin'.

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Those are some inbred looking boys. As if the name weren't bad enough

Those shirts are INSANE!!!!!!!

W. T. F. is going on in that picture?

Seriously, WTF is that?

Big deal....Hillary has a funny laugh and Edwards has super slick hair.

Sure, I'll lay off the fat jokes.

Huckabee "Torturing and killing animals is morally reprehensible, unless my kids do it"

Huckabee "You should listen to me preaching about weight loss and health, because my kids won't."

Dueling banjos are heard quietly in the distance.

"Never in my wildest imagination did I ever dream I would have sons like these."

"One issue likely to get attention is his handling of a sensitive family matter: allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998."

Hanging? Good grief.

From Newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241

i don't know the entire vick story, a lot of it could be argued cold hearted profit...but this is dahmer and bundy territory.

This is a family we want in the White House? White House staffers' pets will begin to disappear, then the homeless from across the street at the park. Backyard barbecues ought to be interesting.

http://13martyrs.blogspot.com/

demst420ne @ 3:

They obviously abuse food too....

Try mixing in a salad from time to time, would you?

They have a wait problem.... they can't wait to eat.

Sick bastards. All of them.

Dey jes be yer typical fat Southron folk. They got plenty of company down ther in Arkinsaw and the rest of the fat stupid South.

Cheetos and chiterlins man dats some good eatin' dat is. Doan fergit a big heppin' O' deep fried turkey this Xmas Mike!

This news will probably win him even more GOP support.

Are the boys retarded?

lambert strether @ 31:

you should drop that on all the media outlets.

LET THEE WHO HAS NOT HUNG AND SLASHED A HIGHER MAMMAL " CAST THE FIRST STONE "

Well the new Huckabee law is to kill animals as his son does. Now you have to wonder where's the Human Rights for Animal Group now not a word. Vick tortured and kill dogs and he has to go to jail because of his acts or because a Black man committed a cruel crime. But here's a white Governor's son who tortures and kills animals but no problem and no charge. Another question as all these young blacks go to jail for crimes even those made up where is Senator Obama? Looks like that dream of Let the South raise again has happen. Now please don't let Huckabee say God told him he forgive his son for killing the dog if so I'm finished.

I thought that was the Kingston Trio! Holy cow!

should read "Mike Huckabee's 18-year-old son". The way it's written now, it looks like Mike Huckabee was 18 when his son offed the dog.

Sadism among "Christian" fundamentalists is the rule, not the exception. Remember Jerry Falwell and the old man's cat?

"There were times that Dad's pranks bordered on cruelty. One of his oil-company workers, a one-legged man he nicknamed "Crip" Smith, complained about everything. Dad and Crip's co-workers got tired of the old man's bellyaching and decided to take revenge. One morning Crip called in sick and Dad volunteered to send by lunch to his grateful but suspicious employee. Dad and his chums caught Crip's old black tomcat, killed it, skinned it, and cooked it in the kitchen of one of Dad's little restaurants. They called it squirrel meat and delivered it to Crip on a linen-covered tray. When Crip returned to work the next morning, Dad and his co-conspirators asked him how he liked his meal. They knew he would complain even about a free home-cooked lunch, and when Crip called it "the toughest squirrel meat" he had ever eaten, they were glad to tell him why."

Falwell the sadist is dead. Now he knows if there is a hell or not.

It looks like Mom is choking the dog. Ha.

When Chuck Norris kills a dog, it stays dead.

didn't the hucKKKster agree with juilianna that mistresses should get secret service protection?

BIGBONEDED @ 66:

LET THEE WHO HAS NOT HUNG AND SLASHED A HIGHER MAMMAL " CAST THE FIRST STONE "

Well, I never hung a giraffe! OK?

I won't believe he's a serial killer material until I learn his middle name...

However, all the Huckabee males resemble the sort of obese closeted republicans routinely arrested for restroom cruising in public parks.

Didn't Jesus stone and hang his dog?

myiq2xu @ 39:

lambert strether @ 34:

Oh, and I know that the Aristocrats comment is meant as a joke, but it's a joke with more than a grain of truth in it.

After all, running a state like a personal fiefdom and giving your family special treatment is what real-world aristocracies are all about, isn't it?

Actually I was referring to something else. From Wikipedia:

The Aristocrats (also known as The Debonaires or The Sophisticates in some tellings) is an exceptionally transgressive dirty joke that has been told by numerous stand-up comedians since the vaudeville era.

I know.

And Joe Klein raped me.

garcia @ 68:

I thought that was the Kingston Trio! Holy 5 cows!

bluegal @ 51:

I love Lambert and the rest of the gang at Corrente. Sucha great blog. Just sayin'.

Kisses!

Dey jes be yer typical fat Southron folk. They got plenty of company down ther in Arkinsaw and the rest of the fat stupid South.

Cheetos and chiterlins man dats some good eatin’ dat is. Doan fergit a big heppin’ O’ deep fried turkey this Xmas Mike!

A.Citizen

Try not to show discrimination by applying stereotypes to a whole section of our country. I am from the South, do not have a fatty unhealthy diet, am well read, and actually have a phd. from a good university. I have lived all over the country and have experienced ignorance in all of the areas I have lived, as well as progressive, intelligent people who do not fall into your ignorant stereotype. If you want, as progressives (which I am) to educate people and get them to vote out the neocons, discuss the issues and try not to cast judgemental labels.

My disgust in Vick is somewhat tempered upon considering his biography. He grew up poor, the son of a teenage mother, his father walked out on them, his childhood was spent in a very bad part of the city, and he was often surrounded by negative influence.

That he even made it to the pros is astonishing.

Thinking about my own nonveg diet, and all the dead animals I eat: unless you're a vegan, you really can't say much about Michael Vick.

Compare that to the luxury and privilege that David Huckabee has enjoyed.

It makes his crime all the more heinous.

It's morally OK to default to unsafe eating habits. There is no shame in growing big as a house, becoming incapable of providing care for yourself and any children you are responsible for. Each swallow of sugar-drink and each bon-bon you pop do not reflect a bit on your moral fiber.

However, if you suck a dick, you are immoral and sick, no matter how well you care for your body.

call me crazy, but i like the hucka-matching shirts.

it reminds me of days past when my family would all wear matching outfits (suitably made from the cheapest material money could buy); the men in one blue-type outift, the women-folk in either red or pink outifts. it was truly magical. then we would commence torturing and killing puppies.

why most you impose your fashion sense and torture-less morals on others?

Could they be any fatter? It's like Hee Haw.

Looks like a casting call for Deliverance.

Have we sunk so low as a nation that this scum would even be considered as a candidate for President of the United States?

And I don't care what anybody says, when I first saw that picture all I could think was, gee, the Kingston Trio sure got fat.

Gov Huckster's Son V. Michael Vick
The Chosen V. Justice For All

You know what they say: It's in the "Genes" or was that "Jeans"? They must have a Paula Dean cookbook.

A.Citizen @ 62:

demst420ne @ 3:

They obviously abuse food too....

Try mixing in a salad from time to time, would you?

They have a wait problem.... they can't wait to eat.

Sick bastards. All of them.

Dey jes be yer typical fat Southron folk. They got plenty of company down ther in Arkinsaw and the rest of the fat stupid South.

Cheetos and chiterlins man dats some good eatin' dat is. Doan fergit a big heppin' O' deep fried turkey this Xmas Mike!

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you know what? Fuck you.

Fuck you for hating everyone from an entire region because of some morons who are from there.
Where are you from? Is everyone there a bigot like you?...by your logic--yes. everyone from your town, county, state, region is a bigoted asshole...including your mother (no different than MY mother who lives in the south)...your grandparents, all your loved ones who happen to be from the place you happen to be from.
Sound fair?
yer effin mama's from "the fat stupid south" and you can kiss by fat southern ass.
everyone who is from this or that region is not this or that way--but if you want to play it like that -- where the fuck you from bitch boy? i can find all sorts of stuff to say about it.
bring it on cheeto boy.

When I was a kid, we put salt on snails. Later I regretted it.

Kids make mistakes on the way to becoming adults. All life is precious. We learn those things from our parents hopefully, or the hard way, through our own painful experiences. Maybe this reflects on Huckabee's ability to be a president.

However, there are plenty of other things Huckabee would be suspect on as a presidential candidate, and those are enough to sink him. It seems like his goose has long been cooked.

Trittydi @ 1:

Beyond sick.

What is it with repiglicans and abuse against women, children and animals?
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It's too hard to even keep a list...

Romney with the dog on the car
Huckabee's son hanging and stoning

I mean, at leat Ghouliani let the cops walk his GF's dog instead of shooting it.

Who's left?

Ghouliani is self-destructing
Huckabee is being dissected by the fiscal conservatives
Romney is getting called a flip-flopper on MTP of all places
Thompson is out of money

McCain? Could he pull it out?

Them're the Aristocrats, don'tcha know.

Gregg @ 91:

When I was a kid, we put salt on snails. Later I regretted it.

Kids make mistakes on the way to becoming adults. All life is precious. We learn those things from our parents hopefully, or the hard way, through our own painful experiences. Maybe this reflects on Huckabee's ability to be a president.

However, there are plenty of other things Huckabee would be suspect on as a presidential candidate, and those are enough to sink him. It seems like his goose has long been cooked.

cooked and eaten.

Over at HuffPo they're headlining the lie that crazy mccain is coming back. Just because the Des Moines Register and Boston Globe have endorsed him. That fat crowd in Arkansas is the one to watch. Hickabee is just the type of bible-thumping right wing hypocrite who resonates with the goofballs here. They're white, Sunday-christian, repukes holding an out-of-proportion position athwart the repuke nomination. They've been told that McCain is crazy and has a black baby, thanks to Bush 2000 campaign. The Village is thrashing around for a maleable stooge to match Hillary. Huck seems too unpredictable, no Podhoretz to guide him, no O'Hanlon to form his opinions. And I'll say this. The Ron Paul signs did not go up around here just because they agree we need to go back to the gold standard. A lot of the semi-literate rednecks don't like the war and are buying into the idea that its for israel/oil.

And that means Hickabee scares teh shit out of the Village "War without end" crowd.

From the looks of it, I'd say they ate the dog.

Jenny'O @ 90:

A.Citizen @ 62:

demst420ne @ 3:

They obviously abuse food too....

Try mixing in a salad from time to time, would you?

They have a wait problem.... they can't wait to eat.

Sick bastards. All of them.

Dey jes be yer typical fat Southron folk. They got plenty of company down ther in Arkinsaw and the rest of the fat stupid South.

Cheetos and chiterlins man dats some good eatin' dat is. Doan fergit a big heppin' O' deep fried turkey this Xmas Mike!

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you know what? Fuck you.

Fuck you for hating everyone from an entire region because of some morons who are from there.
Where are you from? Is everyone there a bigot like you?...by your logic--yes. everyone from your town, county, state, region is a bigoted asshole...including your mother (no different than MY mother who lives in the south)...your grandparents, all your loved ones who happen to be from the place you happen to be from.
Sound fair?
yer effin mama's from "the fat stupid south" and you can kiss by fat southern ass.
everyone who is from this or that region is not this or that way--but if you want to play it like that -- where the fuck you from bitch boy? i can find all sorts of stuff to say about it.
bring it on cheeto boy.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I too get tired of people that want to sterotype the South. Bravo!!

Dr. Matt @ 55:

Big deal....Hillary has a funny laugh and Edwards has super slick hair.

And the irony is totally lost on the conservatives...

Alex @ 43:

To focus on the things that actually matter here instead of insulting the Huckabees' weight (which is silly):

1. Torturing and killing an animal like this, at any age, is a severe warning sign of a bigger mental problem. The thing is 18 year olds don't just do things like this randomly. This could very well be pattern behavior. On the legal level, the younger Huckabee should have at least gotten some sort of state mandated counseling. (on a personal note, the fact that this guy was a scout, and at his age probably an assistant scoutmaster, really burns me. I am an Eagle Scout and because I'm gay, many would say i'm not 'morally straight' enough to hold the honour, but a deranged guy who can so openly shit on the scout code, that's ok).

2. I'm slightly more concerned about him trying to smuggle that weapon on board an aircraft last year (see Digby). Gun toting loonies always scare me, especially if they live in a out-in-the-middle-of-frickin-nowhere-where-violent-crime-happens-on-nowhere-near-the-scale-that-would-justify-being-so-fearful-of-it state. We REALLY need the 'if everyone carried guns, there'd be no crime!' president! Riiiight. Frickin scary.

3. The fact that Huckabee might have used his position to get his son off the hook in the 1998 case shows his inability to recuse himself from a decision of import when he morally must, and THAT means he is completely unqualified to be President.

And that third one is the one we should hammer home to the rest of the country should Huckabee get nominated.

Not to mention, they're a bunch of porkers. ;) ;) (I couldn't resist.)

This is way beyond a childhood mistake. This is sick! Those f*cking hillbilly glutton mother f*ckers!

sorry about that site monitors, that 'it's ok to hate southerners' stuff always gets on my last nerve.
sorry to other readers as well.

lambert strether @ 31:

The answer is not pretty:

The only way I can see (as I argued previously) is that Huckabee and Frady worked with the tools to hand. That is, they would have used their Scout knives, their Scout ropes and/or belts, and possibly any rocks they found in the woods. Just as, in fact, the Utopia Animal Rescue fax said.

Ah yes... a true Boy Scout is always prepared.

this should sink huckabee if it gets out there. if you raise a kid who does that then you lose the right raise 300 000 000 of them.
if the truth about bushs character had been put out there then the last 7 years would be no worse then a cautionary tale instead of a real nightmare.

FTR he was working at a boy scout camp he was not himself a scout.

And the newsweek artical states:

The details of the incident remain murky. The Animal Legal Defense Fund got an anonymous fax that summer alleging that David Huckabee and another youth had been involved in the hanging of a stray dog at the camp on July 11.

isn't GLUTTONY one of the seven deadly sins? how about SLOTH?

you add those to the WRATH that PASTOR Huckabee sought on Clinton

see? i learned all this from evil godless hollywood.

You can't always blame the parents. I mean we have a sick bastard pRez in George W., but look at the parents. Dad, so mild mannered, such a good citizen businessman, and Mom, so socially conscientious, so..........................

Now I understand.

As patriotic Americans, we must do everything we can to keep that appalling lack of fashion sense out of the White House. Those shirts have ELBOW PATCHES. They must be stopped.

I feel bad for that young girl. Someday she's going to just disappear, and investigators will eventually discover that one of her brothers accidently ate her during Thanksgiving dinner.

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

If this is some kind of "promo" picture, I'd like to know what they are promoting. It certainly can't be they, themselves, can it???? If this is supposed to be a "typical American family" ......... well, perhaps enough said.

j swift @ 108:

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

Jesus wouldn't vote Huckabee.

Shel Block @ 111:

Jesus wouldn't vote Huckabee.

Nobody in their right mind would.

I love how the post described how Huckabee's son brutally murdered an innocent animal and people are more worried about his son's weight.

Jenny'O @ 101:

sorry about that site monitors, that 'it's ok to hate southerners' stuff always gets on my last nerve.
sorry to other readers as well.

Please. Don't apologize. I was counting in my head how long it would take before the friggin' "Deliverence" etc. jokes would start. Sadly, I never have to wait long.

Our prejudices and sweeping generalizations are okay, cause we're the "Good" people, doncha know.

That being said: some mega-disturbing behavior. We'll see if this gets the coverage a Dem child would've gotten for the same behavior...

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Does anyone here have a degree in psychology? or even sociology?

Seriously, a common trait among serial killers is having tortured animals in their youth. Huck better have several people watching this guy.

Isikoff is a stooge of the status quo trying to pass himself off as a serious "journalist."

Samson- @ 115:

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

Wow! Talk about a portly family --- are all of the Hucksters lard-*sses or what? Maybe the rest of them should have the same bariatric surgery that their old man underwent to lose the hundred pounds! (the story of him dieting to lose the weight is such BS).

Seriously though this is one sick bastard to do that to torture a dog in that way... only to have his old man the holy roller cover up for his degenerate son.

What is it with these republicans and their penchant for adultery, child molestation, embezzlement, torture, etc etc... (but they love Jesus so that makes it all ok right?)

CD @ 116:

Does anyone here have a degree in psychology? or even sociology?

maybe.... why?

if you are wondering what ritualized animal torture says about one's ability to function in society, the answer is not good for the dumb huck. and, if the allegations are true, i would not be surprised to find out that the fbi was contacted.

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

dunno.

if the young huck was involved in any of this does it matter?

Samson- @ 121:

CD @ 116:

Does anyone here have a degree in psychology? or even sociology?

maybe.... why?

if you are wondering what ritualized animal torture says about one's ability to function in society, the answer is not good for the dumb huck. and, if the allegations are true, i would not be surprised to find out that the fbi was contacted.

My memory is that animal cruelty when it is a forrunner of serial killings usualy takes place when the abuser is alone with an animal.

It's The Biggest Loser Family Edition!

Samson- @ 122:

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

CD @ 110:

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

dunno.

if the young huck was involved in any of this does it matter?

Well if he threw some rocks at a stray dog to get it to leave and went away only to come back and find some psycho kids strangling it at which point he tried to put it out of it's misery yes it does matter.

An ugly photo that calls out for the fashion police to take a visit for sure, but the focus should not be on looks, but the very worrisome behavior by junior and the attempt by dad to cover it up. Kids may do evil cruel shit, but by 17 or 18, being a kid is no longer a good excuse. Great PR for dad!! lol.

I do not heart Huckabees.

Man you can tell beef is what's for dinner at the Huckabee house too often.

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

Huckleberry Jr. and his juvenile buddy, Frady-Cat.

Reading is a life skill.

Jenny'O @ 101:

sorry about that site monitors, that 'it's ok to hate southerners' stuff always gets on my last nerve.
sorry to other readers as well.

We get it. Don't take it so personally. Heck, if I reacted to everything I've heard Americans say about "useless, stupid Canada", I'd be upset, but I'm not. (We know we live in a great place, even if others don't appreciate it.)

CD @ 125:

Well if he threw some rocks at a stray dog to get it to leave and went away only to come back and find some psycho kids strangling it at which point he tried to put it out of it's misery yes it does matter.

If he had only done that, why was he fired?

Two boy scout counselors, 17 year old Clayton Frady and 18 year old David litickabee [sic], the son of Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death.

Reading is a life skill.

Hey, it's The Beach(ed Whale) Boys!

myiq2xu @ 128:

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

CD @ 110:

dumb boys, they should know that it is easier to drive a dog away if it wasn't hangin from its neck from a tree with its throat slashed...

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

Huckleberry Jr. and his juvenile buddy, Frady-Cat.

Reading is a life skill.

I see some of the info came from an anonymous fax.

If that doesn't make you think of the swift boat campaign it's you who lacks a life skill.

CD @ 132:

myiq2xu @ 128:

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

Huckleberry Jr. and his juvenile buddy, Frady-Cat.

Reading is a life skill.

I see some of the info came from an anonymous fax.

If that doesn't make you think of the swift boat campaign it's you who lacks a life skill.

Oh, I'm sorry. anonymous fax? Lil' Davy must be innocent then.

myiq2xu @ 130:

CD @ 125:

Well if he threw some rocks at a stray dog to get it to leave and went away only to come back and find some psycho kids strangling it at which point he tried to put it out of it's misery yes it does matter.

If he had only done that, why was he fired?

Two boy scout counselors, 17 year old Clayton Frady and 18 year old David litickabee [sic], the son of Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death.

Reading is a life skill.

That quote comes from Utopia Animal Rescue.

I doubt they were at the scene so they are quoting someone else and this source is possibly the anon fax.

Critical thinking is a life skill.

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

It's tough for the dog to run when it's strung up by it's neck.

This is enough to keep Mike Huckabee out of the White House.
Really it is......

His son, the cover up (there is one) and this photo. He's toast.

myiq2xu @ 133:

CD @ 132:

myiq2xu @ 128:

CD @ 119:

Huckleberry Jr. and his juvenile buddy, Frady-Cat.

Reading is a life skill.

I see some of the info came from an anonymous fax.

If that doesn't make you think of the swift boat campaign it's you who lacks a life skill.

Oh, I'm sorry. anonymous fax? Lil' Davy must be innocent then.

Were you there?

NO

So untill we know for sure what happend you need to stop acting like you know everything and stfu.

hmmm.... matching outfits, including jeans, stripes and gender identification... all unhealthily obese while attempting to express themselves as a model family of moral behavior... on the surface, the dog story seems contradictory, but it's not... take a close look at huck's hand holding the dog's paw... his wife's hand around the dog's paw... seems innocuous doesn't it?... lol... if you've had direct experience of living through this form of family portrait scenario yourself... which is probably everyone alive with a family portrait... you'll remember what kind of pressure there was to represent one's family at its best... no matter what kind of control was exerted (read: the antithesis of garnering cooperation) to ensure the results were what was expected...

i'm sure many will think this is a leap, but i'll bet dollars to donuts that huck's "leadership" style for "motivating" his closest staff involves delivering "healthy doses" of manipulative guilt followed up by a club...

BTW CD, where does it say "anonymous" fax?

Well excuuuuuse me for reading! Anything negative said about a Republican MUST be false.

myiq2xu @ 139:

BTW CD, where does it say "anonymous" fax?

Reading is a life skill.

oops... that was "his wife’s hand around the dog’s throat"...

i bet that's a hyper-dog too who openly shows everyone what effects his environment has had on him...

Just today I posted a comment on Kos asking if anyone had ever seen Mrs. Huckabee. The family clearly keeps a low profile and now we know why. BTW, wasn't one of Huckabee's son's detained for carrying weapons onto a plane within the last year?

Frankly, we could do worse than have this man win the Republican nomination, but I can't see the money guys- the power brokers in the party- allowing it to happen. Interesting turn of events.

what a fat sick mutha flucker, the apple never falls far from the fruit who sired it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CD @ 125:

Samson- @ 122:

CD @ 119:

Samson- @ 115:

Did they throw rocks at it before or after it was hung or had it's throat cut?

Who did the hanging?

Who did the throwing?

Who did the cutting?

dunno.

if the young huck was involved in any of this does it matter?

Well if he threw some rocks at a stray dog to get it to leave and went away only to come back and find some psycho kids strangling it at which point he tried to put it out of it's misery yes it does matter.

hee hee, are you serious? you are adding a lot of details to this story. odd details, too. and, is slitting its throat a good way to put a creature of its misery? odd. very odd.

Stupid Git @ 135:

CD @ 110:

j swift @ 108:

stoning the dog? What? They practicing for theocracy or sumthin?

I have a feeling some of the boys threw rocks in an attempt to drive the dog away and were not trying to kill it.

It's tough for the dog to run when it's strung up by it's neck.

You assume the dog was being hung when rocks were thrown at it.

Swift boat campaign - thass the one where some guys (financed by some rich GOP member)promoted stories that directly contradicted official military records.

CD version - Even though there is no evidence to the contrary, this story must be false. If you weren't there, STFU cuz I have a feeling that I'm right, even though I wasn't there either.

Samson- @ 145:

CD @ 125:

Samson- @ 122:

CD @ 119:

dunno.

if the young huck was involved in any of this does it matter?

Well if he threw some rocks at a stray dog to get it to leave and went away only to come back and find some psycho kids strangling it at which point he tried to put it out of it's misery yes it does matter.

hee hee, are you serious? you are adding a lot of details to this story. odd details, too. and, is slitting its throat a good way to put a creature of its misery? odd. very odd.

hee hee, are you serious?

You obviously live in the city and have limited experience with where your food comes from.

Sad. very Sad.

myiq2xu @ 147:

Swift boat campaign - thass the one where some guys (financed by some rich GOP member)promoted stories that directly contradicted official military records.

CD version - Even though there is no evidence to the contrary, this story must be false. If you weren't there, STFU cuz I have a feeling that I'm right, even though I wasn't there either.

myiq2xu version he's a Republican so the whole thing must be true and he must have been a central part of the whole thing!

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