Most. Obstructionist. Ever.
For quite a while, many of us have wondered whether Republican officials in Washington have any apparent talents at all. Governing is clearly not their strong suit, but are they completely without skills?
Absolutely not. The 49-member Senate Republican minority has done something no Senate minority in American history has ever done: they’ve filibustered more bills than any Congress ever has — and they broke the record with a full year to spare.
The latest came this morning, when the Senate GOP filibustered an omnibus budget bill, the 62nd Republican filibuster since the 110th Congress began in January.
“In just one session, a minority in Congress has prevented a mind-blowing 62 pieces of legislation from going to the floor for an up or down vote,” said Campaign for America’s Future co-director Roger Hickey. “Our report shows how over and over again, the uncompromising minority has thwarted the will of majorities in Congress and of the American people, holding the Senate floor hostage to a radical right-wing agenda.” […]
Eric Lotke, Campaign for America’s Future research director and lead author of the new report, calls the obstruction a “deliberate strategy.” He observes that the congressional Republicans block legislation, then blame the Democrats for getting nothing done. “It’s like mugging the postman and then complaining that the mail isn’t delivered on time.”
Brian Young, noting the historic quality of the achievement, added, “Only a group with a near-pathological disregard for the actual health of our democracy, only a group with a single-minded focus on the cynical political strategies of their consultants, only a group with an imperious disdain for the people of the country could’ve pulled off such a feat.”
good going (you bastards)
What do you expect from them. If anything gets done by the dems, way to many people that vote may be helped. Look at SCHIP. If that sucker passes, how many other poor people might decide THEY want health insurance too? That 500 billion per year the top 1.1 million earners are stuffing up their asses won't last long if the have to share it with 75 million poor people.....
And for subverting the will and needs of The People, they're proud to be a party?
I will never knowingly vote for a republican, even if a good one exists, for the rest of my life.
And some how the commenter's here at C/L will find a way to blame the Democrats, calling for Reed's and Pelosi's head. The republicans are to blame but will remain blameless because its the weak kneed Democrats, the spineless Democrats that are the problem. They will never vote for a Democrat again as long as they live.
“Only a group with a near-pathological disregard for the actual health of our democracy, only a group with a single-minded focus on the cynical political strategies of their consultants, only a group with an imperious disdain for the people of the country could’ve pulled off such a feat.”
You mean, only a group of Republicans!
In a totally cynical way, you have to admire their determination and ability to single-mindedly pursue their goals. Would that our feckless Democratic majority be so successful.
I assume that all these "filibusters" are really only the results of that ridiculous 60 vote rule these idiots impose on themselves. (The idiots being our feckless Democratic senators). Is that rule not imposed on themselves by unanimous consent - the type of consent where a single senator could object and therefore require only a 51 vote majority? What part of that makes any sense?
RayC @ 4-
Spot on!
Ya ever wonder what, exactly, is motivatin' those so-called lefties who blame the Dems fer everything? I've got my own suspicions.
RayC @ 4:
Right.
It wasn't Republicans who put the FISA on the floor last week, it was Reid. Look at the Dems voting record, see how many voted for more spending on the war since 06. They haven't done JACK. They are the same.
Andy K @ 6:
Um-I think it's because the Dems promised the moon in 2006, and have handed us a chunk of stinky green cheese. I believe you'll find lefties very pissed off about that.
So if your suspicions run along the lines that people don't like to be fucked in the arse after being lied to, you'd be correct, sir!
:lol:
I voted against my republican senator, but my fellow citizens are obviously morons.
If Reid wasn't such a weak leader things would get done. At least the republicans having balls. If the Dems showed some guts they could counter that. Reid's answer to everything is to just lie down and take it. You have to fight for what you believe. The dems, with few exceptions like Dodd and Kennedy, are not worthy of my sympathy.
**BIG HINT**
ya ready?
Republicans play hardball, and they cheat.
got it?
JohnnyThief @ 7:
So why have the Republicans filibustered a record many of times? Is it because they are the same? Is it because they have been together arm and arm to make it look like the Republicans are obstructionists. When really its the Democrats. Yep thats the ticket.
This is a very good observation. Frankly, I don't read mainstream newspapers or watch mainstream news on TV but I have a feeling the average American will go merrily through their daily lives completely unaware of this historic record on the part of the so-called Republican minority that wields the power in Congress. I'm almost sure the average American will know all about Britney Spear's little sister's pregnancy and discuss it like it's real news. But the Republicans in Congress obstructing legislation will never enter the void between their ears. Oh well.
Howard Dean used the "O" word on Wolf Blitzer's show today,which I noted with satisfaction,given that its the first time I've heard the word obstructionist used on CNN in months.Naturally there was no follow up from Wolfie on that particular point.
RayC @ 4:
Reid is a mormon, so that's strike one. And strike two HE IS WEAK. Pelosi I loved after the election, but yes she must go! Republicans go after what they want and these dems have not used their power well. They have given up the fight time and time again. Leftist would have been on their side if they had done one thing - stop the funding. All they had to do was refuse to bring any bill for a vote that would have given money for the war. It would have ended and they would have fulfilled there promise and got everyone's respect. They failed us.
tballou @ 5:
You beat me to it---I was going to ask this question, too.
Still waiting for an answer!!!
Why don't the Dems threaten to get rid of the filibuster...just like what the repugs did(only they meant it)...Just threaten it...and see what happens.......Nuclear Option?At least by threatening to get rid of the filibuster......it would show how stupid and hypocritical they are....Hey...any of you folks ever tried ..Dickens Cider?....it's for the holidays.During the holidays...all the women I know like a Dickens Cider....even the local ministers wife says on those cold winter nights...she likes a hot Dickens Cider...
RayC @ 4:
The remaining question: Does the Democrats' ineffectiveness reflect mostly the institutional power of the presidency, or the incompetence of Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi?
That's from a blog entry by Ramesh Ponnuru, A Failed Congress.
To such commentors mentioned by RacC. What does it feel like to be a repub tool?
(BTW - I can't find a way to leave a comment for Mr. Ponnuru's "question" on his blog. Do you need to register with WaPo first?)
miss_kitty @ 8:
Sorry, miss kitty, but if anyone- ANYONE- out there thought that a Democratic Congress that included a Senate with a tenuous 1 vote majority(and that one vote bein' Lieberman, fer chrissakes) could wave a wand and turn legislation into law, then they were fools.
What Pelosi promised was that her House would pass progressive legislation- and her House has! Unfortunately fer us on the left is that, unlike the House, the Senate isn't all up fer re-election at the same time. IIRC, Roosevelt won by a landslide in '32, but he didn't have the kind of overwhelmin' support in the Senate until after the elections of '34 and '36.
I preach it all the time, and I'm gonna preach it again: if ya want effective change in the government you've gotta work hard and be patient. Then you've gotta work even harder. And remain patient. It's right there in the Constitution, even if ya have to read between the lines: the rule by whim of the majority can be a very dangerous thing.
How come the democrats do not ask the republicans if they still favor the nuclear option?
Andy K @ 19:
I hear ya. But I say people are disappointed in this Congress' lack of pursuit of impeachment, and that comes from the House.
We expected it, and we deserve it.
JohnnyThief @ 7:
Yep, Reid put it on the floor, and he'll have to answer to the voters of Nevada the next time he runs fer office. And I hope the voters of Nevada toss his ass out in favor of a real progressive in that election.
But what ya fail to mention is that it was another Democrat, Chris Dodd, who effectively killed telecom immunity in the Senate version of the bill by his threat of the filibuster.
And ya also failed to mention that the version of the bill that passed through the House contained no immunity fer the telecoms.
Give credit where it's due, wouldjya?
These are the same lying f*ckers who sang the mantra "an up or down vote is all we ask."
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The dems are like the kid who gets his ass beat by the neighbor bully, and goes home and gets spanked for messing up his clothes.
MountainMan23 @ 11:
...because cheating pays big.
Lollimom @ 3:
it will take you the rest of your life to find one!
miss_kitty @ 21:
GD right, miss kitty!
Let's make sure the blame for this gets placed where it really belongs. The rethuglics in Congress are only doing what the Fuerer has told them to do. This is exactly what the two thugs in the WH wants to happen. They are the ones calling the shots. It is another reason to support impeachment for treason.
Hey....didn't Sen Reid brig up the amendment because it was procedure,he had to do it(I think)and that paved the way for Sen Dodd to take his stand on the issue.....I know theres some issue here...but i must be missing something.
like the repugs have done to the entire country.....
we should just bend them all over the legislative rail and give them a hand or two...
and i do mean in the most disdainful way.
miss_kitty @ 21:
Well, m_k, that brings us full circle and back to the topic at hand: Republican obstructionism in the Senate!
Once again, my opinion is that even if impeachment happens there is scant little chance that we'll learn anything we don't already know about the crimes of this administration. And even if new evidence is presented there will be 50 definite votes for conviction, but where in the world will the other 17 votes come from?
So if the administration wins the trial in the Senate, do ya think the same lefties who are sayin' Pelosi is passin' her promised agenda into law will turn over a new leaf and free her of the blame of a failed prosecution? Ya'd like to think so, but from the evidence of the left's lack of perception that I've seen the bitchin' and whinin' will just continue.
... Pelosi is passin’ her promised agenda...
Sorry: isn't
Since the Librul media is totally ignoring this important story, the Democrats have got to create their own ads and blare this travesty all over the air waves for at least a month.
Americans need to know what a bunch of low class authoratarians the Repubs are.
Repubs have no desire at all of ever governing in a bipartisan manner. It always has to be their way or no way.
Screw 'em!
And, btw, once the administraion is outta office, the real fun begins. Because that's when a Democratic run DoJ can start the unimpeded investigation, empanel a grand jury composed of citizens and argue charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, war crimes and TREASON in front of a jury of American citizens.
Remember, a conviction in the Senate on impeachment charges result only in the removal of the convicted parties from office. The conviction in a Federal Court will lead to time in Federal Pound-Ya-In-The-Ass Prison.
mudshark @ 17:
Lets try this again.....OH AndyK....go pack.
Geez, muddy, I meant to say hi earlier...kinda caught up in the topic...Hi! :D
If the Packers somehow get home field throughout the playoffs, I'm goin' to Lambeau fer the Championship game! Keepin' the fingers crossed....
Ya got ysbadadden writin' yer jokes now?
Gosh....you're linking to a BLOG SITE for the story. I'm totally shocked and surprised that you couldn't find a 'real' newspaper or television network to link to. I guess they're all too busy shopping for smaller newspapers to take over to take notice of this.
The enemy within, always accurate with its poisoned darts.
How often have we heard the Democratic leaders in Congress articulating clearly, on a national platform, that the Republicans are being obstructionist and filibustering like crazy? I hardly ever hear it directly from them. Reading it here is nice, but, let's face it, that is preaching to the choir to a great extent.
Pericles @ 38:
There's one blog site I can think of- Talking Points Memo- that the MSM will give any credibility to.
It's a damned shame.
all 49 should be voted out of office never to be elected again
Media Concepts @ 40:
Blame the people who own the platform. And the people who don't wanna sing in the choir, I guess. Lazy bastards.
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Christopher Dodd. All men of principle willing to stand up and take chances for America.
Chris Dodd stood up for America this week and showed the kind of leadership so dreadfully lacking in Washington and in all of the other candidates running for President.
Christopher Dodd stood up for America, stand up for him.
Andy K @ 31:
bitchin and whinin is our Constitutional right, and in cases like this, when our will is not being obeyed-is our DUTY!
And people on the left are very perceptive If anyone is lacking perception, it's the Democrats in the 110th Congress.
eh, i don't know if it's legitimate to criticize the use of fillibusters as "obstructionist." it's an important protection built into our legislative system, which is very useful when, say, there is a Republican majority. what matters is not how many fillibusters occur, but the actual legislation they concern.
gwen-
I agree. It's an important protection. Smart guys, those authors of the Constitution.
Still they hadn't the foresight of a large segment of the Congress attemptin' to yield the power of that branch to the Executive. Or maybe they foresaw this, but it was the majority they envisioned attemptin' to yield and the filibuster was the protection rather than the instrument of ...tyranny.
I'll letchya know what they were thinkin' after I get that time machine on Christmas mornin'.
Andy K @ 37:
believe it or not....I heard that one on the radio....on the way home from work today....that was the short version.....
Republicans cried "OBSTRUCTIONISTS!" from the rooftops when Tom Dashel was Senate Monority leader... then Bush hand-picked a millionaire-trust-fund Republican, Thune, to run against him in South Dakota... and beat him by broadcasting pictures of Dashel's Million-dollar mansion in DC! and accusing him of having lost touch with farmers and ranchers. It was personal attack, and character assassination all the way, financed by Bush's white house.
They DO play dirty... and they will pull out all the stops to cheat, lie, and steal as many seats as possible next year. How many manority voters will have to stand in line for six hours to vote?
How many will find themselves disenfranchised at the registration desks at polling places.
How many electronic voting machines will be running on hacked software?
Oh and AndyK....I lost money on the Packers when they played the cowboys....But My money is still on the Packers in the playoffs....I hate the cowboys.
tballou @ 5:
I agree........whether they are the minority or the majority, they know how to work the system. Think back three years ago; Republicans were in control of the Senate, and Democrats threaten a filibuster. Republicans threaten to go 'nuclear' and all of a sudden, Democrats back down and give in. Now the roles are reversed and they carry through with their filibusters and Democrats let them do it!
At the same time, recall how many times you heard the term 'up or down vote' when Republicans were in the majority. A major piece of legislation came to the floor and the Republican cry was 'up or down vote'.
I don't hear that now, do you? Did the rules some how change when Democrats became the majority? Do they really think that taking the high road on every issue is going to get them anywhere? It's not.............the only thing that matters is results, and Republicans continue to push their agenda even though they are in the minority.
mudshark @ 48:
Much better than all the Xmas music on the radio. The next time I hear that "Simply having a wonderful Christmas time," cheesy, reptetive, synth-pop ode to plastic joy, my head will explode.
Okay. Bed time fer me. GNA!
Yeah, muddy, injuries sucked that game...so did #4. He was pressin'.
Is Plastic Joy a better name fer a band or a vibrator?
Goodnight.
Andy K @ 53:
with or without batteries.........my sis in law didn't find it very funny when I gave her one for Xmas......I thought it was hillarious
The real problem here is not that the Repubs "filibustered" bills -- they did not.
The problem is that Harry and the Pussy-crats gave the Repubs credit for filibustering without actually having to filibuster. Unless they were a Dem; then he forced them to filibuster.
This whole, uh, "issue" is one of the more glaring examples of how mis/disinformation works. The vice president votes to break ties in the Senate. I think you can still look that one up. This whole rules-of-the-senate crap on filibusters is a completely made-up story to cover the fact that they're all still a little scared they might get a special letter in the mail, IMHO. Just sayin' So please don't blame the guys that wrote the Constitution. Oh, and Merry X-mas!
The dems claimed that they went soft with filibusters fearing retribution when they had the majority. They thought if they played nice that the favor would be returned. The repugs don't fear retribution, they don't need to. If they had a majority returned, the dems would just lay down at every opportunity.
http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/record_breaking_obstruction_how_it_scre... .....ok on topic.....but really folks.....should this surprise anyone?
For 6 f*cking years we heard again and again and again about how unacceptable it was if Dems were to even CONSIDER using a filibuster as a bill-killing device.
Now, one year in, the Republicans break the filibuster record. Can you f*cking believe this?!
What's worse -- this worst of Republican hypocrisy yet or the fact that the Democrats are so f*cking weak that they have fallen prey to the Republicans ON BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN?!
I'm speechless!
Let's take this moment to thank the following senators for passing the 551 million dollar Iraq War senate funding bill. Several of these we elected through the netroots and spent our hard-earned dollars supporting.
Senators:
Lincoln
Pryor
Salazar
Bill Nelson
Akaka
Inouye
Bayh
Landrieu
Mikulski
Levin
Baucus
Tester
McCaskill
Casey
Tim Johnson
Rockefeller
Webb
Can we please do our jobs better in vetting Democratic candidates for senate? Or out of desperation are we going to continue just voting in anyone who declares himself/herself to be a Democrat?
Avenger @ 59:
Avenger, the Republican Senators did not object to the Democrats using the filibuster to block legislation, as you suggest. They objected to the use of the filibuster to block high level judicial appointments that had the support of the majority of the Senate, something that had never been done before.
OxyCon @ 33:
The dems should go on the t.v. with ads everytime chimpy vetoes (or McPsycho in the senate pulls a filibuster), and tell the american people in quick short ads, what the repukes are stopping; Legislation that would obviously help 90% of the country.
This would be one way for them to get a leg-up on the GOP noise machine. Then the citizens of this country could see just exactly who it is that doesn't give a shit about them, and who is trying to screw them royally at every turn.
Just imagine a 30 second spot, where an attractive (got to catch the sheeples attention) articulate woman says: "the democrats want hedge fund managers who make up to $650,000,000 dollars a year, to pay the same tax percentage as working americans. President Bush vetoed this. Let president Bush know that the government should not be giving special breaks to the richest people on the planet.
Do the same for S-CHIP. Remind the american public over and over again who is stopping progress and legislation to help them and their families. This would be a much more effective way of combating their fascism, and it would give the nominee an advantage going into the election.
The reason these bastards keep pulling this shit, is because they know it will never be reported by the useless MSM.
Well, maybe so, but there are others ways to get the attention of these pricks. Time for the dems to start getting creative on the battle front. After all, it should be alot easier for us than them. First, we have the truth on our side, and secondly, they are dispicable, greedy, evil bastards.
make the repubs stay up all night and have to speak on the floor at 4am if they want to filibuster. Mitch Mcchinless shouldn't be able to take shortcuts
fine - they want to filibuster? Make 'em. Seriously. Go for days. Break 'em. Don't give in. Let 'em try. See how long they last. They'll quit. Especially when it's over something obviously GOOD.
Question: How can the President criticize congress for not getting its work done ?
Here is a paragraph from an October 30, 2007 story in CNN:
"Congress is not getting its work done," Bush said, flanked by members of the Republican House leadership. "The House of Representatives has wasted valuable time on a constant stream of investigations, and the Senate has wasted valuable time on an endless series of failed votes to pull our troops out of Iraq."
Answer: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050524-3.html
This is a new, more determined, more evil form of republican. I blame Ronald Reagan. Put it together with the new, less determined, more compromising, and more spineless breed of Democrat and it's no wonder we are in the mess we are in today.
McConnell had the unmitigated gall to say: "So here, at the end of the session, we began to come together, recognize the reality, which is that the majority really can't run roughshod over the minority in the Senate." (Jim Lehrer News Hour 12/19/07)
This is the same sob who was ready to fire off the nuclear option when in the majority. That was all they did during their time at the top, run over the minority.
Re #67
I have posted the entire sorry sob's interview with Gwen Ifill at my site (14 mins)
And the gutless piece of shit Harry Reid was tooting his own horn on this morning's NPR "news" about looking forward to continuing to work in a bipartisan manner when the senate reconvenes after the holidays. The first piece of business the senate Democrats need to take up next year is stripping Reid of the Senate Majority position.
So if a minority of Republicans can obstruct Congress, why can't a majority of Democrats de-fund the war and get us out of Iraq? Gee, it makes a person wonder, doesn't it?
Everyone beats up on the Dems for not standing together and defeat those Repubs. Reid & Pelosi have been accused of being ineffectual. There are several issues here.
a) The Dems are a coalition and not a monolith as the Repubs are. The Repubs have over the past 20 years purged their party of any moderates. Therefore they act as one since they are monolithic.
b) Reid & Pelosi have to work with what they have. When you have a coalition you know you may have to bend to get something done. Perhaps if they get a larger majority things will be better.
As a sidlight, Mitch McConnell was on "The New Hour" last evening and was asked about his obstructionism. He offhanded the question and called it "molding" legislation.
RayC @ 4:
I'd sure be a lot happier with the Democrats if they'd make the Republicans actually filibuster. All an obstructionist scumbag, er, I mean "Republican in Congress" has to do right now is say "we'll filibuster that" and the Democrats go like "Okay, I guess we won't vote on it then, oh well." What the???
LMAO!!!!
Gee, maybe if the Dims were not so dead set against ending the Fillibuster last term they wouldn't be facing this problem now.
Fuck these fascist fucks. Typical rethuglican behavior to do that which you cried about constantly in the last Congress. "Every nominee deserves an up or down vote." Wasn't that the rallying cry of these fucks when they were threatening to employ the so-called nuclear option?
Every last one of them should be breaking rocks in a prison camp.
If the republicans want to filibuster, make them stand at the podium and speak until their throats bleed.
Also, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are the two least effective leaders we could have. They're both altogether too willing to concede to these petulant fucks on the right and because of it the entire progressive cause looks weak.
Maybe it's time to demand they be replaced by competent firebrands. You don't see the GOP putting a couple of milquetoast losers in the leadership positions (if you overlook that closet-homo Mitch McConnell), so why should we? I think Russ Feingold would make a good majority leader in the Senate, so would Chris Dodd with his newfound spine.
Pelosi always looks like a deer in headlights and I. despise. the. way. she. speaks. when. she. stops. after. every. word.
Pathological and evil they may be, but these rethuglicans at least fight for what they want. Where the hell are the Dems in all this? Remember when the Dems threatened to filibuster when they were in the minority? Remember the uproar that ensued at the mere mention of the word? Bill Frist threatened to go nuclear and the dems caved, resulting in that sham compromise of the gang of 14 (or whatever the f**k it was). Now the dems are in the majority and nothing has changed - the rethugs are still runnibg the show. Screw Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi!!!
jr @ 63:
With Tepid Tea Harry its been more like:
"Oh, you used the word filibuster? Damn! Guess that means it's now a 60 vote requirement. No, you don't have to carry out the filibuster; just sit down and relax. Wait, you're Christ Dodd! Scratch what I said! Alright, everyone. Let's see how long Dodd lasts filibustering." (smirk)
Obviously, he is talking about the Democrats in the Senate. They have abandoned the base that worked so hard to get them elected, and pursued a "cooperate with Republicans at all costs" strategy, hoping to not rock the boat before the 2008 elections.
The first half of the year, I thought that the Dems were being out-maneuvered and that they would soon get their act together. When the Senate passed the horrible FISA bill before August recess, totally undercutting our civil liberties, and then quickly adjourned for vacation, the House only had two choices. Since there was no Senate to talk to about compromises, the House could either pass the bill "as-is", or vote to defeat it.
With George Bush telling Congressman that they had new intelligence that an attack on the U.S. was being planned, the House passed the FISA bill, the so-called Protect America Act. We were told by the Democrats not to worry, as the bill had only six months of life before the Democrats passed real FISA legislation.
We all know how that went. Harry Reid tried to give Bush and the Telecoms everything they wanted. If it were not for Senator Chris Dodd, who had to filibuster against his own party, that bill would now be law.
The progressive bloggers participated in a great fashion in this issue. However, we need to be ready in January, as Reid will bring the bill up again when he thinks Senator Dodd will be too inundated with the primaries to come back and repeat his filibuster threat.
When the Democrats used the filibuster it was a serious tool of Democracy, an important tool to insure the rights of the minority party. When the Republicans use it, it's obstructionism.
Of course when the Republicans held Congress, they hated the filibuster so much some talked about trying to abolish it. Now they love it.
Whatever, that's okay because each side will their view of the filibuster within hours of gaining or losing a slim majority in Congress.
The over use of the filibuster is a symptom of the dysfunction in Washington on the part of BOTH parties, not just one. Neither side is willing to compromise, every fight is an important make or break issue, over analyzed by political pundits on 24 hour news channels and the Internet, so nothing gets done. And, honestly, sometimes I think all Americans might all be better off that way.
The Repugnant Republicans invented "the nuclear option". Maybe its time to use it on them. Then in 20 years when we have repaired some of the damage they have done, we can reverse and abolish it.
Aguy @ 80:
Where have you been living? The Dems have been rolling over and giving the Repubs whatever they want. Look at the Senate war funding bill, where at first the Dems said they would not give funding to the Iraq War....
...then they said they would give funding as long as they received such-and-such 10's of billions of dollars...
...then they said alright we'll lower that to a few billion dollars...
...then they said alright we'll take nothing and you can have your Iraq War funds.
God how I wish the Dems would NOT compromise (particularly in the areas that the country does NOT want them to compromise). Instead they are pussies publicly making promises, then publicly reneging on those promises. Time and time again.
hows this for obstructionist?
White House confirms the following records destroyed in the 3rd floor fire: New UPDATES
by Reality Bites Back
Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 11:54:17 AM PST
This afternoon, the White House confirmed that a quickly contained blaze isolated to a storage room utility closet on the third floor of the Eisenhower Executive Office building destroyed the following records:
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FreedomOfInformationAct @ 83:
this can't right...... way too much info to get torched.......but I certainly wouldn't put it past them......
mudshark @ 84:
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