Huckabee's Courting of the Far, <I>Far</i> right
It looks as if Mike Huckabee is heading to Texas to raise a bit of money with the help of a few of his right-wing supporters:
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has been gaining ground in the Republican presidential primaries, is scheduled to meet campaign donors in Houston today at the Tanglewood home of physician Steve Hotze, a longtime Christian conservative activist. Like other major presidential candidates, Huckabee is making a last dash for Texas cash before the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary next month. His trip includes a fundraising event in Dallas after his Houston event.
Co-hosts for the $500-per-person Houston event include state Rep.Debbie Riddle of Tomball and Texan Rick Scarborough, founder of Vision America, which works to mobilize pastors and church congregations for political action.
If you've been reading this blog for any length of time, you are undoubtedly familiar with Rick Scarborough, the self-described "Christocrat" who heads Vision America and has a penchant for suggesting that evangelicals leaders are dying off because the nation has turned its back on God, suggesting that Christians will have "the blood of martyrs on [their] hands"if they don't oppose hate crimes legislation, blaming "the church" for just standing by and allowing the election of "unrighteous leaders" in 2006, and saying that opponents of the War in Iraq are committing treason, among other things.
Sadly, Rick Scarborough may be the most sane of the group named. PFAW has this quote from Riddle:
"Where did this idea come from that everybody deserves free education, free medical care, free whatever? It comes from Moscow, from Russia. It comes straight out of the pit of hell. And it's cleverly disguised as having a tender heart. It's not a tender heart. It's ripping the heart out of this country."
Leave aside we're the ONLY western country that doesn't offer national healthcare, Moscow is the pit of hell? That's just so Cold War of you, Deb. Join this century, shall we? And Dr. Hotze strikes me as a wee bit out of date as well:
According to a separate Houston Press article that suggests that Hotze's medical credentials and views are a bit suspect, he also signed something called the Coalition on Revival's Manifesto for the Christian Church in 1986 that dictated:
- A wife may work outside the home only with her husband's consent
- "Biblical spanking" that results in "temporary or superficial bruises or welts" should not be considered a crime
- No doctor shall provide medical service on the Sabbath
- All disease and disability is caused by the sin of Adam and Eve
- Medical problems are frequently caused by personal sin
- "Increased longevity generally results from obedience to specific Biblical commands"
- Treatment of the "physical body" is not a doctor's highest priority
- Doctors have a priestly calling
- People receiving medical treatment are not immune from divine intervention or demonic forces
- Physicians should preach to their patients because salvation is the key to their health
Good lord. Did this guy just decide that progessing beyond the Middle Ages was unneccessary? Does he practice medicine by leeching out the ill vapours? People were rightfully up in arms over donations made to Hillary by Norman Hsu, but these guys scare me far more.
i read something the other day about huckabee letting dumond out to rape and kill again just because an arkansas church told huckabee dumond had been "saved".
i don't know about you, but i could do just fine without another four years of "faith-based" politics.
Hey, I think I saw Huckabee in a 'snake handler' church documentary. Cool!
No doctor shall provide medical service on the Sabbath
Unreal. This guy would rather just let folks die?
Best thing for the Dems: Huckabee-Romney ticket.
The insanity of the reich-wing party-of-death-GOPigs has no bounds.
We dealt with this guy in Arkansas for too long. He has a quirky smile with a cute quip and a folksy way about him, but HE IS A SOUTHERN BAPTIST PREACHER!!! He is a nut and if you think we've been screwed by Bush and his pandering to the religious right, just wait and watch this guy. I was raised in the baptist church and it's why I'm not in it as an adult.
As co-incidence would have it, I'm at work in a hospital today (as a doctor).
I just have to say ... that has to be some of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
CNN - What Would Jesus Do? How Would Jesus Vote? - just speculated that Jesus may be Huckabee's running mate. An hour of evaluating our first official and open Christian election.
CNN, when will you get around to the crux of the biscuit and stop beating around the bush? I propose this show: How Would Jesus Rewrite Our Constitution? Or maybe, Secular Legal Code or Leviticus? Which Way Would Jesus Go?
As bad as the Democrats are, the Republicans are actually far worse. I do not believe that there is one Republican who can be viewed as being moderate in his views. To think that one of these people [Democrat or Republican]will eventually end up being president of this country is simply too mind numbing to contemplate.
CNN: Snake Tests For Our Politicians? How Would Jesus Roll?
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Huckabee also has a televangelist's knack for getting caught with his fingers in various cookie jars. In his first year as governor, Huck used a $60,000 taxpayer fund for personal expenses like dog food, pantyhose and meals at Taco Bell. (One of his sons — also a very heavy man, as his father was — reportedly joked that "there's not a Huckabee alive that can eat at Taco Bell for seven dollars.") The governor also tried to keep $70,000 in furnishings for the governor's mansion supplied by a local cotton grower, and used inaugural funds to pay for clothes for his wife. "Mike is first and foremost about Mike," says Brantley. "He'll nickel-and-dime whoever he can to line his pockets."
Huckabee has also been accused of paying himself as a consultant to his own senatorial campaign, allowing special interests to pay for airline tickets for his daughter, receiving a canoe from a Coke bottler and — hilariously, if you're wont to laugh at the sheer small-town gauche greediness of it all — setting up a "wedding registry" at Target and Dillard's department stores so citizens could lavish the Huckabees with gifts as they renewed their marriage vows. The long list of desired goodies included twenty-four settings of Lenox "Holiday Nouveau" china, a KitchenAid mixer and a "Jack La Lanne power juicer." If you didn't want to pick out something yourself, the Huckabees were glad to take straight cash. "Message from the couple," the registry noted. "Target GiftCards are welcome."
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Break out the snakes!!!!!!Speak in tongues and roll about gesticulating wildly!!!!Witness to the lord!!!YeeeHA!
This is really getting out of hand...
Dr. Hotze has been mucking around in Houston politics for years. One of the more disgusting individuals around.
This God stuff isn't just talk with Huck. One of his first acts as governor was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally retarded teenager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape. "The state didn't fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor," says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women's Clinic. "Zero."
Huckabee is America's worst nightmare. Forget it if you're not rich, white and a born-again Christian. This guy should scare the hell out of any sane person. I guess this leaves the Republican party out. The time to stop this man is now, before he reaches super Tuesday. If you thought GWB was bad, just wait for President Huckster.
Erroll @ 9:
There's Chuck Hagel, but he's not running (actually, he is running - away from the Republican party).
Huckabee: Crazy as a shit-house mouse.
CNN: Stoning or Drowning Infidels? Huckabee & Jesus Weigh In.
I suppose when my son had an emergency appendectomy on a Sunday that he should have just died instead of making a doctor commit a sin by doing surgery on a Sunday. What a moron.
Yep.....this is the sort of shit we deal with in Texas on a day to day basis. Even in Dallas, evangelicals have control of ALL our media outlets including our "alternative" paper that promotes the healing of gay people.
Step right-up folks and join the lunatic fringe!
Help the Reverend Fukabee save us from the U.S. Constitution, and all those irritating freedoms that can really get in the way of a perfectly good authoritarian fascist-state!
I thought Guilliani bothered me, but Huckelberry just plain scares me. He's dangerous, as are his followers.
“there’s not a Huckabee alive that can eat at Taco Bell for seven dollars.”
dr. matt, thanks for the tip.
you forgot to mention that story about his son slitting a stray dog's throat.
which pup would jesus execute, governor huck?
BTW, Bob Novak had this tidbit:
The Huckster will be swamped by ANY Dem nominee so I'm thinking of changing my party registration so I can vote for him. :-)
I bet Huckabee on his first state of the union address will have a pope Urban II moment and cry "Deus vult! Deus vult! Deus vult!!"
“Biblical spanking” that results in “temporary or superficial bruises or welts” should not be considered a crime
WTF is a "temporary bruise"? Does that mean a bruise that heals some time before the child dies is acceptable? So anything short of actually murdering your children should not be considered a crime?
"A wife may work outside the home only with her husband’s consent".
So long as that's understood "a wife MUST work...". Check.
"Biblical spanking” that results in “temporary or superficial bruises or welts” should not be considered a crime".
Serial killers were all snotty kids. Check.
"No doctor shall provide medical service on the Sabbath".
No doctors do anyway, they're all on the fairways. Check.
"All disease and disability is caused by the sin of Adam and Eve".
Disease certainly can't be traced to Adam and Steve. Check.
"Medical problems are frequently caused by personal sin".
See above. And how hard is it to boil water before drinking? Check.
“Increased longevity generally results from obedience to specific Biblical commands”.
I eat lamb every Easter and have lived to share these insights. Check.
"Treatment of the “physical body” is not a doctor’s highest priority".
Of course not. Have you ever paid off a boat? Check.
"Doctors have a priestly calling".
Whoever heard of a Jewish doctor? Check.
"People receiving medical treatment are not immune from divine intervention or demonic forces".
Thus the phrase, "It's in God's hands now". And, "Hell, we're losing this guy". Check.
"Physicians should preach to their patients because salvation is the key to their health".
Especially to the uninsured, "dust to dust and ashes to ashes", etc. Check.
God Bless the GOP.
by the time republicans realize their only credible candidate is ron paul, it'll be far, far too late...
and good riddance. i'm sure the ghost of abe disowned you sorry g.o.p. s.o.b.'s decades ago!
The Bible is replete with capital punishment for trivial "crimes".
King of Kings @ 29:
who's bible?
tax their churches and discriminate them out of the workplace, and then the religious zealots will understand that politics and religion don't mix well.
"No doctor shall provide medical service on the Sabbath"
Do these assholes ever read the Bible? I'm an atheist and even I know that there are famous stories about Jesus healing people on the Sabbath against the Pharisees teachings. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Or at least that's what Jesus said.
“Where did this idea come from that everybody deserves free education, free medical care, free whatever?"
I assumed that's what Jesus would do, jackass.
Go Lemmings Go
Fuck all of the shit that's already been dredged up about him the past few weeks:
“Where did this idea come from that everybody deserves free education, free medical care, free whatever? It comes from Moscow, from Russia. It comes straight out of the pit of hell. And it’s cleverly disguised as having a tender heart. It’s not a tender heart. It’s ripping the heart out of this country.”
Huckabee is crazy. I think he's crazy enough to start a war with Russia, and destroy this entire fucking planet with it.
The GOP's candidates have proven themselves lacking on almost every level.
If this dullard is leading the polls, the GOP itself knows its in serious trouble.
You have a Mormon flip flopper, a backwoods Baptist preacher who likes handouts and using very poor judgment, a former New York City mayor with a very shady past and two old men named Thompson and McCain who offer nothing at all noteworthy.
Now Republican backers are feeling like Democrats and independents have felt for the past 7 years: Miserable about their political fortunes
For more background on Mike Huckabee the dangerous extremist and radical reactionary, see:
- "Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
- "10 More Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
ROM Spaceknight @ 30:
Probably the King James version, which is ripe with punishments. The most famous (and the favorite of the far right) would be Leviticus:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Leviticus 20:13
People who worship another God:
He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. -- Exodus 22:20
Blasphemy:
He that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. -- Leviticus 24:16
Not going to church:
Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 31:14
And so on.... I think that is what the original poster meant.
“Where did this idea come from that everybody deserves free education,...
Um, the founding fathers. Something about securing the nation through an informed polity.
If Fuck-a-bee was a true believer and devotee of the word of God as revealed by Jesus Christ and faithful to his "calling" to the ministry, he wouldn't even be running for the "secular" office of Preisdent in the first place.
The reason we're in this mess is that our ancestors were too dumb to understand that religion is a farce, the Bible is allegorical, and God (whichever one you might wish to name) does not "exist" except in the imaginations of those who are unable/unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions and their own lives.
I was watching a show on the History Channel which included many photos taken through the Hubble telescope. Who, in their right mind, could see photos of the Universe, with the billions (that's BBBB BIllions) of stars and guzillions of planets and think for even 1 second that any "god" would be interested in the day to day goings-on of a bunch of minute critters on planet Earth. Get A Grip!! And, puh-lease don't even think about voting for Fuck-a-bee.
This ISN'T news, or it shouldn't be.
Mike Huckabee is a DOMINIONIST
If you don't know what Dominionism is or what Dominionists believe then you need to read all you can
and you need to let everyone you know, know too!
http://orestia.blogspot.com/search/label/Dominionism (3 posts)
Dominionism: Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid.
The future we must stop!
http://revcom.us/a/033/dominionism-be-very-afraid.htm
Five Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Want You to Know About Him
http://www.alternet.org/story/68397/?page=1
DOMINIONISM
(A.K.A. CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISM,
DOMINION THEOLOGY, AND THEONOMY)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
Dominionism and Dominion Theology
http://www.theocracywatch.org/dominionism.htm
DailyKos - Dominionist, Dominionism
http://www.dailykos.com/search?offset=0&old_count=30&string=Dominionist&...
http://www.dailykos.com/tag/dominionism
Wikipeadia - Christian Right, Dominionism, Mike Huckabee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Huckabee
A Reconstructionist Takeover Video
http://mainstreambaptist.blogspot.com/2007/03/reconstructionist-takeover...
http://mainstreambaptist.blogspot.com/search?q=Reconstructionist (several posts)
You need to know this stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
I find the bit about Moscow being the pit of Hell particularly amusing since there are chunks of what Jesus preached that read pretty much like an idealistic communist manifesto--from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
No, that doesn't carry straight over to socialized public services, nor does it take into account the complete disaster that large-scale Marxist communism ended up being in practice, but I'd bet money that you could show a lot of these nutcase fundies unattributed direct quotes from Jesus himself and get them to soil themselves with anger at the "communist propaganda."
this ISN'T a surprise, or it shouldn't be
Mike Hukabee is a DOMINIONIST
If you don't know what that is or what they believe, you need to read up on it and make sure your friends know too.
http://orestia.blogspot.com/search/label/Dominionism (3 posts)
A Reconstructionist Takeover Video
http://mainstreambaptist.blogspot.com/search?q=Reconstructionist (several posts)
DailyKos - Dominionist, Dominionism
http://www.dailykos.com/search?offset=0&old_count=30&string=Dominionist&...
http://www.dailykos.com/tag/dominionism
Sarah @ 38:
yeah, leviticus sucks. so does most of the old testament.
the actual jesus stuff is pretty great, though. i don't care about the miracle stuff.
just standing down the roman empire took guts.
this ISN’T a surprise, or it shouldn’t be
Mike Hukabee is a DOMINIONIST
part 2
Dominionism: Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid.
The future we must stop!
http://revcom.us/a/033/dominionism-be-very-afraid.htm
Five Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Want You to Know About Him
http://www.alternet.org/story/68397/?page=1
Religious Tolerance; Dominionism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
Theocracy Watch - Dominionism and Dominion Theology
http://www.theocracywatch.org/dominionism.htm
Seriously ...
What in the heck is wrong with these people? Why are they living in the 12th century, not the 21st? What happened to them? I guess I underestimated the sheer lunacy of dogmatic Southern Baptists.
I don't care if they believe all that gibberish and nonsense -- they do have a right to take solace in talking snakes and bearded cloud beings -- but they have NO RIGHT to foist that rot on the rest of the country.
this ISN’T a surprise, or it shouldn’t be
Mike Hukabee is a DOMINIONIST
part 3
Wikipeadia - Christian Right, Dominionism, Mike Huckabee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Huckabee
God said Jews were his chosen people. Jesus was a Jew. Many 'Christians' don't like Jews saying Jews killed Jesus. Huh?
-- “Increased longevity generally results from obedience to specific Biblical commands”
This one just screams fear of death, fear of death, fear of death. Anyways, why would this be reward for a good life? If I were a Christian - *laugh* - I would think of this as punishment and not reward. Why would I want to spend more time in this vale of tears surrounded by sin, sinners, temptation, a host of diseases, and immense human suffering?
It would not surprise me if Huckabee believed at least half-heartedly in some of the sentiments expressed in the list. And they keep dragging us back to the middle-ages....
The real crooks and liars: Bruce Bartlett and Mitt Romney.
Bartlett continues to repeat statements which have been thoroughly refuted. The man is smart and fully understands the FairTax, but for reasons known only to Bartlett, he is lying about it.
Romney, when talking to people about the FairTax, also is misstating the facts. There are two possibilities, here. Either he has familiarized himself with the FairTax but for his own reasons, he is lying about it. The second possibility is that he has not familiarized himself with the FairTax but talks about it as if he is familiar with it. That makes him both irresponsible and a liar.
Those who throw around baseless accusations about Huckabee, have not learned the facts, either. A good example is the short youtube clip in which Huckabee appears to be begging for a tax increase -- any kind of tax increase. But, if a conscientious person were to actually take a look at the entire 15 minute speech, that person would see that the context completely absolves him of the charge of being a "tax and spend liberal" in Arkansas.
It is truly a shame that such a talented man as Romney thinks he has to stoop to baseless charges in order to beat Huckabee. It is a credit to Huckabee that he refuses to throw mud at his fellow candidates.
Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death. — Exodus 31:14
If not keeping the Sabbath carries a death penalty, why don't Christians obey this? Going to church twice on Sunday isn't the Sabbath.
Hey, spare the rod and spoil the child. I wonder if the biblical spanking was what drove his son to begin torturing and killing stray dogs.
Buck up son...it's not like I'm causing any permanent disfiguring....those bruises and welts are only superficial.
Again, this was not considered to be a "nice, friendly, innocent puppy. It was a mangy dog they perceived to be dangerous, so they attempted to destroy it. This is what most people do to dangerous animals.
Proud Atheist, I'm also an atheist. I've been listening closely to Huckabee and, with the help of Tivo, I've heard most of his comments. I'm convinced that he is not going to mix theology with government. One example that leaps to mind is the fact that his kids have been going to a public school, where the various sciences are taught. He believes they should be exposed to science, and he says he wants nothing to do with changing the curriculum, aside from adding emphasis to the music and the arts.
Brian Pearson @ 52:
Most people hang a dog on a fence railing, slit its throat and then stone it to death?
I don't think I want to live in your neighborhood.
We had a stray dog acting aggressively a few years ago in my neighborhood. We just called Animal Control.
Brian Pearson @ 52:
"This is what most people do to dangerous animals." You conveniently left out the part about them hanging the dog and then stoning it while it was left on the tree. People with serious mental problems manifest these conditions early by performing sadistic acts upon animals, just as Bush did when he lit firecrackers in the anuses of frogs when he was a youth. These people may preach compassionate conservativism but they are hypocrites whose souls are empty and full of hate.
Brian Pearson @ 52:
Hanging, beating and slitting the throat of stray animals is not what most people do. What kind of crowd do you hang with?
I supposed there wasn't a pay phone in the woods. I imagine if they had a gun, they would have used it.
Brian Pearson...even a dog with rabies deserves a humane demise. If he had captured a dangerous animal and disposed of it quickly and humanely as possible, I'm sure he wouldn't have lost his job. DUH.
If one had to destroy a dangerous dog in the woods without a firearm the only way to do it without endangering oneself is a large rock or tree branch....not what this kid did. Do you really think he handled a dangerous dog to the degree indicated? I doubt it was so dangerous then.
Atlanta Journal Constitution reports today:
Huckabee (36 pct) has as much support as the next three candidates - Giuliani (14), Romney (12) & McCain or Thompson (10) - combined.
This nation will not survive the anointing of another come to Jesus corporate stooge of these oil patch oligarchs.
Huckabee will crash and burn if he tries to run outside the Repug primary though. He's going to be, imho, one of the 2 easiest candidates to shoot down.
Giuliani would be even easier; but only by a slim margin - Huckabee has TONS of crap in his closet that's far scarier than the darkest Clinton scandals.
sulphurdunn @ 61:
Well said. What a mish mash of strange traits they have!
Can you say cognitive dissonance?
This Huck-quote scares me the most
“People look at my record and say that I’m as strong on immigration, strong on terror as anybody. In fact I think I’m stronger than most people because I truly understand the nature of the war that we are in with Islamo fascism. These are people that want to kill us. It’s a theocratic war. And I don’t know if anybody fully understands that. I’m the only guy on that stage with a theology degree. I think I understand it really well. And know the threat of it is absolutely overwhelming to us.”
First he doesnt understand the nature of this "war" at all. He just repeats the same tired old rightwing nonsense about "islamofascism". What is islamofascism anyway? Nobody knows but repeating over and over again sure as hell gives Islam a bad bad connotation. Remember never ask the question WHY. Just repeat terrorists, evil people, radical islam and islamofascism
And maybe thats the purpose because he goes on saying its a "theocratic war". Which doesnt even make any sense. Theocratic war implies a war between theocratic states. Which states are Huck talking about? Iraq is not a theocracy, Iran is but it takes two to tango. Is Huck saying the US should become one? Scary thought.
But I think what Huck meant to say its a war between religions, Christianity and Islam which is even scarier. And that hes the best man to wage it because hes got a theology degree. Holy sweet mother of Jesus!
Here's a guy essentially talking about a new crusade against Islam and he doesnt even know the meaning of the words hes using. Imagine this ignorant religious fundamentalist nut in charge of the most powerful military mankind has ever seen.
deus vult..
Wow, did I read that right, is the religious right really trying to western scientific convert doctors into medieval witches/holy men ?
Religious Right must really be Religious Idiots.
Not to worry folks. This fool is not going anywhere and neither are any of these right wing ass holes.
Republicans are finished in this country for the next 100 years.
StCyrlyMe2 @ 68:
Well if republicans are praying real hard for an election miracle like the ones in 2000 and 2004 one can never feel too safe
Brian Pearson @ 53:
By hanging it?
Yes because I know most people confronted with a dangerous animal would capture it and hang it instead of shooting it.
This Christian Right wing is as nutty as they come... I cannot stand to speak to them anymore... I used to attend a church, but then I found GOD... there are NO angels in there.
Brian Pearson @ 58:
Uh, in the woods they have big branches don't they? So clubbing it in the head would have been out of the question?
Avoiding it, going home ... when I was little my family and I camped and hiked the Colorado high country all the time. . . a one point we knew a bear was only minutes a way from us due to the warm scat on the trail
so we naturally stayed around to deal with a wild and dangerous animal - especially when we didn't have a gun with us
NOT
we raced down the mountain
also we never went camping or hiking again without a gun
Brian Pearson @ 53:
So you were there, Brain, huh? The other stories these assholes have kicked around about the dog was that it was sickly and suffering and that the whole dog story was made up for political reasons.
Typical blame-the-victim-after-the-made-up-shit-doesn't-work' bullshit Thug tactic.
And you believe the vicious dog story. Guess we all know who you're voting for.
Brian Pearson @ 54:
Yeah, that's why he won't release his sermons so we can all read what he really thinks
galmud @ 66:
I photoshopped that very quote and said/asked "If being a Dominionist isn't enough for you to disqualify Mike Huckbee as president, maybe he reckless nature should be."
http://orestia.blogspot.com/2007/11/its-offical-dominionists-for-huckabe...
All disease and disability is caused by the sin of Adam and Eve
Medical problems are frequently caused by personal sin
So this yobo subscribes to Reverend Phelps' newsletter.
"...Medical problems are frequently caused by personal sin...."
These are the same types who claim that hurricanes visiting southern Mexico are "God's" punishment for allowing a Gay Pride Parade to be staged in the Zona Rosa in the capital district. Remember, Pat Robber's son and Jerry Faultwell both claimed that "God" was punishing the U.S. by visiting 9/11 on us for our sinful behavior (homosexuality, abortions, &c.). One might point out to them that such pronouncements betray ignorance of fallacious argument and in particular the trap of post hoc, ergo propter hoc, or "after this, therefore because of this," meaning that they assume a particular cause to have produced the effect. Taken to extremes in antiquity (that is, a little more than 6,000 years ago), this fallacy led to regicide among certain primitive tribes who, having witnessed an eclipse of the sun just prior to their ruler's death of natural causes, took to slaughtering future rulers at eclipses so that the gods would not visit famines and plagues upon them. As the late Will Rogers observed (in a slightly different context), the poor dumb clucks, they ain't learned nothin' yet!
Huck's Christian Reconstructionist fetish knows no bounds
It's interesting how these people espouse their garbage yet conveniently forget to leave a way to contact them to allow a person to let them know what a real-world person thinks...
Huckabee won't get elected (cough, placed) President unless Bilderberg and CFR want him.
That goes for ANY candidate. They are the ones that elect (rig) our President.
I just read some of the links.......where in the hell does your country find these idiots?
http://www.seesharppress.com/20reasons.html#
Mike the Canuck @ 81:
That's like asking where in hell the earth found the plague of locusts.
The only thing better than a Huckabee nomination, would be for this nut-job to campaign with Bush/Cheney. The folks would just love that, especially after the depression hits next year.
Who needs a roof over their head, food for their family, or health insurance; when we can git a fellur' that talks Jesus all the time?
Mike the Canuck @ 81:
Mostly Europe. Started coming over a few hundred years ago. Set up shop. Won't go away.
One good thing about the Huckabee surge is that it might show most Americans just how extreme the religious right has become.
The GOP has helped create a Frankenstein of social conservatism which they have long depended on the win elections. Now, it appears to biting their asses. For Huckabee to be the GOP nominee would be poetic justice.
Another irony is that on most (not all) social issues, Americans seem to be moving somewhat leftward. He is the wrong candidate at the wrong time.
Huckabee's coming real close to falling off the edge of his (and Friedman's) flat earth.
Over the right edge, of course.
@To those who say they want someone like Huckabee to be nominated
People complain all the time about having to choose between "the lesser of two evils". Yet we have here people hoping for someone like Huckabee to be nominated in the hopes that it will get Dems to vote for Clinton or Obama. You guys are doing the same thing that the Republicans do where they clamor at the idea of seeing Clinton getting nominated.
Let's remember the last time Anglo Christians established a dictatorship in a democratic (relatively) state. Oliver Cromwell wasn't shits and giggles for England, not by a long shot.
Huckabee.....is no Cromwell. He ain't even Romulus Augustus! (Bonus points if you know who either of these people are, double bonus if you know who the second one is.)
I am unfortunate in that Debbie Riddle is my state rep. She's a complete idiot.
Yes, Huckabee is just another Republican candidate who gets some media attention and then promptly self destructs. The Republicans are campaigning like Democrats this year.
With every fiber of my being, I loath and hate these worthless people..
Erroll @ 9:
Have you taken the time to research Ron Paul's platform more closely? I think you'll find he's the most refreshing candidate in either party. Not to mention he has real solutions for real problems facing our country. He is honest, consistent and a true follower of the Bill of Rights and US Constitution. Check him out and I know you'll find his stance to be the most rational and logical of any candidate. ^_^
galmud @ 66:
I thought Islamofascism was a one word, simplistic description designed to summarize the idea that most Islamic states are either Islamic fundamentalist regimes (Iran, much of the Algerian countryside, pre-invasion Taliban Afghanistan) or military dictatorships (Syria, pre-invasion Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc.).
Better hope that there is record Democratic voter turnout, sufficient to assure that margins are too wide to rig in favor of the GOPers without inciting open civil war.
Amen to Paul's comment. However, I think we all need to send money to the family of the woman raped and murdered by Fuckabee's pardoned felon. I believe with enough support that alone can bury him in a deep grave, with the stake through his heart which he deserves.
Brian Pearson @ 53:
That puppy was a sinner and deserved death. It knew not Jesus and is burning in hell.
Go in peace.
HJ
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