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Looks like the Oscars and Golden Globes will be Cancelled

Well, no one wants to say it but you will be reading this shortly: The Golden Globes and the Academy Awards will be cancelled.

On Monday December 17th, the WGA turned down requests for waivers by the Oscars and the Golden Globes to put those telecasts on air without the Guild’s writers. With the rejection of the waivers for the Academy Awards (ABC), set for Sunday February 24th, and the much faster approaching Golden Globes (NBC), set for January 13th, the WGA has essentially cancelled both awards shows by its actions.

The SAG Awards did receive a waiver and are scheduled for Jan. 27th.

But the other two awards shows will be cancelled and no one or should I say everyone in the industry is avoiding the mention of this 600 pound LaMotta because a) they are holding out the now near impossible hope for a settlement and b) no one wants to interrupt the cash flow from the media promotions of the potential nominees.

That is unless they want to go the route of the People’s Choice Awards which announced it will air its show Jan 8th (CBS) in a 2 hour “magazine” format of prerecorded videos and no audience yet featuring Queen Latifah as the prerecorded "host."

The Oscars and the Golden Globes will not play that game.

Leslie Unger, spokeswoman for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said, “It’s very difficult for me to envision that we would follow the model.”

But the folks who put on the Oscars and the Globes still feel they will somehow put those shows up despite their failure to receive the requested Guild waiver. It will never happen. Here’s why. No publicist is gonna send their client to run the gauntlet of Writer’s Guild’s strikers who will be on hand to make things extremely impossible for any stars who have the nerve to cross the picket lines into the event. No stars. No Oscars. No Globes.

Nerves are already frayed. Last week a WGA member wrote an angry letter to Peter Bart, editor of Variety, the entertainment industry bible, demanding he cancel her subscription due to what she perceived as pro-studio editorial bias. Variety makes the bulk of their ad revenue during the annual awards season. I find the reply amusing.

Peter Bart replied:

Dear Nicole Yorkin,
I respectfully think you've drunk the Kool-Aid -- Variety's coverage has been objective. What motivation would we have to invoke a bias? Must every Guild (or every company) be validated for their every demand?
Peter Bart

The reason I find that amusing is that “drinking the Kool-aid” has become such a common refrain in our vernacular. We use it for all sorts of arguments and jokes. But mostly the phrase is used on the Left to describe right wing nuts that goose step in unison to their own weird ideology. Well, as most people know, the saying dates back to the 1978 Jonestown Massacre and the poison laced Kool-aid (actually a product called Flavor-aid which was laced with Valium, chloral hydrate and cyanide) distributed by Rev. Jim Jones to his willful followers. 900 of them committed suicide.

In 1980, CBS made a great Movie of the Week called Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones.

So what the hell does this have to do with the award shows being cancelled due to the WGA strike? In Guyana Tragedy the lead was brilliantly played by none other than Powers Boothe, who after being nominated for an Emmy for the role was one of the only nominees to show up to get the award during the then-ongoing Screen Actors Guild strike. His immortal quote,This may be either the bravest moment of my career or the dumbest,” will live in infamy. It was the dumbest. Insiders now admit that crossing the picket line destroyed his career.

Kind of an interesting choice of words on Mr. Bart’s part, don’t you think? No publicist, manager or agent wants their client to be the next Powers Boothe and that in its essence is why the Oscars and the Golden Globes will be cancelled.

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Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

One giant step for good taste!

Preacher Boob's picture

It's not all bad.

Cancellation of those two shows would give us about six hours of TV silence, that is, if the dummies at the networks didn't fill the time with some other nonsense.

XuYu's picture

They can't just announce the winners on TV? They HAVE to put on all those stupid skits and tributes?

Straight Shooter's picture

I have never watched either the Golden Globes or the Academy Awards and I honestly have no idea what the Golden Globes are all about.

So that's what happened to Powers Boothe. The Story of Jim Jones was terrific. I was visiting friends in Nashville when it aired.

Lollimom's picture

It's a cold day in hell when one can't televise their thanks to God, mom, dad, son, daughter, and the lovely wife or husband.

I'm crushed.

odanny's picture

Great news! I hate all the stupid ass shows that take home these awards. Guess I dont have to ignore them again this year, wonderful.

Preacher Boob's picture

And is Bush ever pissed!

He thought he'd be up for an Oscar for that Jiggy-Jig dance he did on YouTube.

And he was so looking forward to one-upping his old buddy Al, he has even been practicing his 'Nyah, Nyah, Nya Nyah, Nyahs'.

anon's picture

Its just another award show, but this action makes no sense and appears punative. They WGA loses the largest platform in the entertainment world - the Oscars. I guess writers arent as smart as I had thought. Striking award shows about product made prior to the strike is silly. I think it would be lovely if marketing for already made product suffered and WGA members lost money.

At this point I am more concerned about the exodus of Mexican laborers due to a DHS ruling about employment enforcement than the WGA.

If revenues are lost, and they probably will be, the final chapter in the story for the well known striking writers is going to be titled 'Retirement'.

Chicago Joe's picture

Gee, what will I do those two nights when I'm not able to watch overrated hacks back-pat each other on live television for movies that very few make the time to actually watch?

How will I survive???

Besides, without the WGA involved, the Oscars could air the same way they did for the first 30 years of their existence...without lame jokes, without ridiculous filler and without dance routines people walk out of the room for when they come on! Just announce the nominees, read off the winners, give the winners a minute to babble and be done with it! The telecasts will be no more than an hour!

Maybe the strike will save us all, ya think??

Preacher Boob's picture

The problem is not with the shows themselves, the problem is with the nominees.

There's no writing involved in the shows, it's the spontaneous 'thank you's the winners need that are the problem. And, of course, since no one knows who the winners are (heh,heh), all the nominees need thank you speeches written for them.

Yes, Virginia, those speeches, blushes, pauses, shy coughs and all, are written. I know, I know, but it's true. I swear! Really!

And GDit, Virginia, there is no Santa Clause.

Merlyn Trey Hunter's picture

XuYu @ 3:

They can't just announce the winners on TV? They HAVE to put on all those stupid skits and tributes?

No kidding....that has to be the most pretentious thing in entertainment. We hero worship those people too much as a culture anyway. If we were to be snuffed out right now, in this moment, by some cosmic impact or something; the cockroach scientists that dig us up will swear that we literally worshiped these people.

George (~Bush)'s picture

The environment is warming to a degree that will proably not be good for human life, a sociopath has his finger on the nuclear trigger, our economy is tanking, and we are running out of the commodity that has been the backbone of our technology for the last 50 years.

So what was this about a T.V. show being cancelled?

MediaFilter's picture

GREAT NEWS!

Now we can all rejoice! Both of these media events have bleedthrough, so that even if you never watch them, you are still assaulted by different vectors in the aggregate media.

Let's push for banning these hideous events far into the future.

jasper's picture

Wow The environment is rejecting the Oscars?

I can't beleive the Oscars will finally be cancelled. What will I do without 4 hours of clueless glad-handling and idiots like Nicholas Cage trying to look deep & self-important?

WGA Writer's picture

Ummm....

The Oscars will not be canceled. (statement from AMPAS here)

The Academy remains committed to presenting its Awards on February 24, and will continue to work with all parties to achieve that goal.

The Oscar *ceremony* may have to change because they aren't getting the WGA waiver. This could be a huge hit to the AMPTP (of which AMPAS is a member) because the Oscar telecast is such a huge moneymaker for them. Keep in mind-- you can still watch the SAG awards or the Spirit awards, both of whom have waivers. But why should the WGA help the companies make money both through promotion of the films AND from TV commercial revenues when AMPTP won't even meet them at the negotiation table?!!

Not only aren't the companies showing up to negotiae, but they wouldn't even appear at a LA city council hearing to discuss the impact the strike is having on the LA economy.

WGA Writer

suckerforpuns's picture

OH WOW, you mean to tell me that all those stars don’t write their own acceptance speeches? WHO’D have thunk!

WGA Writer's picture

suckerforpuns @ 17:

OH WOW, you mean to tell me that all those stars don’t write their own acceptance speeches? WHO’D have thunk!

I think it's more about the non-acceptance speech content-- the opening monologue, the "witty banter" between presenters, the introductions, outros to commercials, miscellaneous jokes during the show, etc. Aside from the pre-written material, during the airing, there's always a team of writers watching the show live, coming up with "off the cuff" remarks for the hosts and others... lately headed by Bruce Vilanch. I mean, I suppose they could wing it and just have a cuecard that reads "SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK BUT NOT IN THOSE WORDS PER SE", but I don't know how well that will go over after the third hour...

WGA Writer

do-si-do's picture

Well maybe others here can confirm this, but I also heard that all those glamourous gowns the stars wear on the red carpet are only worn while on the red carpet. They have to change to eat, sit, etc. What a weird thing.

Thanks for the update WGA writer and Mark G.

BTW I was never a real fan of Powers Boothe and now I have another reason!

Preacher Boob's picture

Seriously folks, this is a damned shame. Just as these shows were starting to gel, to get it down pat, they're gonna go off the air!

And you know what's gonna replace them!!

Another of those idiot 'Reality' shows!!!

konchster's picture

The loss is tremendous how can we survive this blow Wait! I didn't watch those stupid shows anyway
Some celeb will be saved from making an ass of themselves either on the red carpet or in an inane acceptance speech

suckerforpuns's picture

WGA Writer @ 18:

suckerforpuns @ 17:

OH WOW, you mean to tell me that all those stars don’t write their own acceptance speeches? WHO’D have thunk!

I think it's more about the non-acceptance speech content-- the opening monologue, the "witty banter" between presenters, the introductions, outros to commercials, miscellaneous jokes during the show, etc. Aside from the pre-written material, during the airing, there's always a team of writers watching the show live, coming up with "off the cuff" remarks for the hosts and others... lately headed by Bruce Vilanch. I mean, I suppose they could wing it and just have a cuecard that reads "SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK BUT NOT IN THOSE WORDS PER SE", but I don't know how well that will go over after the third hour...

WGA Writer

You can’t tell a snide remark when you read it?

Preacher Boob's picture

do-si-do @ 19:

Well maybe others here can confirm this, but I also heard that all those glamourous gowns the stars wear on the red carpet are only worn while on the red carpet. They have to change to eat, sit, etc. What a weird thing.

Thanks for the update WGA writer and Mark G.

BTW I was never a real fan of Powers Boothe and now I have another reason!

Yeah, you oughta see all the clothes hangin' on the lamps in the toilets when they're all takin' a pee before the shows. Looks like a sale at Bloomies. (Or de la Renta's)

milkman's picture

Great. More grist for Rush Limbaugh. By the end of next week he'll have this issue tied in with Hillary's tracking numbers and Harold Cromwell's decision to work six more years rather than retire.
In all reality though, who really gives a f**k?

do-si-do's picture

You know, I just like to know who won what award and watch the clips (with the great writing).

Tequila's picture

Why does it matter? No one watches anyway.

Preacher Boob's picture

OK, how come nobody's taking me up on my call to strike for more writing money from Amato?

Hold it....Wait just a darn minute....Am I the only fool who's making a measly one cent a word?!

OK, come clean, what are the rest of you getting? Amato swore to me that my one cent a word was the equal of the most anyone else was getting. Of course, he even tried to tell me that a lot of you were writing for nothing, but I never believed that!

But come to think of it, if he tried to BS me about that, maybe......

Preacher Boob's picture

I really hate to offend any other writer's, like the WGA members, I really do, but both of those shows come across much better with the 'mute' button depressed, and some rinky-tink piano playing in the background, and a filter across the screen so they're in Black and White.

I mean, that's not as good as having the set 'Off', but it's second best.

suckerforpuns's picture

Preacher Boob @ 27:

OK, how come nobody's taking me up on my call to strike for more writing money from Amato?

Hold it....Wait just a darn minute....Am I the only fool who's making a measly one cent a word?!

OK, come clean, what are the rest of you getting? Amato swore to me that my one cent a word was the equal of the most anyone else was getting. Of course, he even tried to tell me that a lot of you were writing for nothing, but I never believed that!

But come to think of it, if he tried to BS me about that, maybe......

He's a payin ya a penny a word? I aint getin Half that!

U NO HOO's picture

"Well, no one wants to say it but you will be reading this shortly: The Golden Globes and the Academy Awards will be canceled."

But, we all want to hear it: The Golden Globes and the Academy Awards are canceled.

Preacher Boob's picture

suckerforpuns @ 29:

Preacher Boob @ 27:

OK, how come nobody's taking me up on my call to strike for more writing money from Amato?

Hold it....Wait just a darn minute....Am I the only fool who's making a measly one cent a word?!

OK, come clean, what are the rest of you getting? Amato swore to me that my one cent a word was the equal of the most anyone else was getting. Of course, he even tried to tell me that a lot of you were writing for nothing, but I never believed that!

But come to think of it, if he tried to BS me about that, maybe......

He's a payin ya a penny a word? I aint getin Half that!

How the hell can you live on a ha'penny a word!? Unless you write real long sentences with real small words.

suckerforpuns's picture

Preacher Boob @ 31:

suckerforpuns @ 29:

Preacher Boob @ 27:

OK, how come nobody's taking me up on my call to strike for more writing money from Amato?

Hold it....Wait just a darn minute....Am I the only fool who's making a measly one cent a word?!

OK, come clean, what are the rest of you getting? Amato swore to me that my one cent a word was the equal of the most anyone else was getting. Of course, he even tried to tell me that a lot of you were writing for nothing, but I never believed that!

But come to think of it, if he tried to BS me about that, maybe......

He's a payin ya a penny a word? I aint getin Half that!

How the hell can you live on a ha'penny a word!? Unless you write real long sentences with real small words.

My other job is CEO of a large oil CO.!!!!!!

Preacher Boob's picture

Y'Know, back to this awards thing. What's the point in going to movies anymore?

I mean, if you don't know who's gonna be best this-and-that , and who and what's gonna win, I mean, geez, what's the point? Did so-an-so's sly grab-of-the-crotch beat out what's-her-name's lick-of-the-lips when she stole a glance at what's-her-name's bosom?

Did the dog that lifted his leg on the star's boots in the background during the big fight scene trump the horse's fart when the bank robber jumped on his back from the second-story window?

I mean, if you can't keep score, why play the game?

The movies are done for. We'll all just have to rely on Netflix and the old-time flicks.

Chris from Maine's picture

well that kinda sucks. they need to strike a deal already.. give the writers the money they deserve.

however maybe this will make people realize the oscars dont need to be 400 hours long...

gallery's picture

Good for the WGA.
The studio bosses are as foul as any other big greedy corporation in america. They depend heavily on winning awards to drive their profits and ensure DVD and cable sales, but they are so stubborn that they won't even negotiate in good faith to bring the strike to an end. It's like a CEO who REALLY needs another 38 million dollar bonus this year just to prove how VALUABLE he is. Time to share the wealth dirtbags.
Just think of all those poor stars too.... no award, no stratospheric pay raise.

I only hope that all of the endless music award shows get cancelled as well.

anonymouse's picture

Not that I'll mind missing the Oscars, but the studios should pull their feudalist heads out of their arses and promise to pay writers for what is fairly theirs. Their argument is ludicrous in the extreme.

Has anyone in WGA proposed binding arbitration? I find it difficult to believe that any honest person would not find in their favor.

Herby's picture

Taken from the Denver Post:

"Awards shows are the best chance that writers have to prove how valuable they are. Without a script, we may finally find out how vapid and empty these stars really are," said Tom O'Neil, columnist for the entertainment- awards website theenvelope.com. "The awards shows will have no choice but to go on with the show, but not the telecast."

"That's totally ridiculous," responded Gil Cates, producer of the Oscar broadcast scheduled to air Feb. 24 on ABC. "There will absolutely be a (televised) show one way or another. There are awards to give out."

jake3988's picture

Absolutely stupid.

A) You don't need writers for an award show. Give out awards! Bring on a musical act if you have to. No writing necessary.
B) If you DO need writers, tough. Do it the best you can.
C) No reason should the writers saying no have any bearing on anything. If they don't give it their blessing they could go to greedy money hell for all I care.

suckerforpuns's picture

anonymouse @ 37:

Not that I'll mind missing the Oscars, but the studios should pull their feudalist heads out of their arses and promise to pay writers for what is fairly theirs. Their argument is ludicrous in the extreme.

Has anyone in WGA proposed binding arbitration? I find it difficult to believe that any honest person would not find in their favor.

OK, I'm going on strike right now, you coming?

suckerforpuns's picture

Preacher Boob @ 36:

suckerforpuns @ 32:

Preacher Boob @ 31:

suckerforpuns @ 29:

How the hell can you live on a ha'penny a word!? Unless you write real long sentences with real small words.

My other job is CEO of a large oil CO.!!!!!!

You prolly feel pretty good now, but nothin' lasts forever. There ain't any more dinosawers dyin', not that I've noticed. There'll come a day when you'll need somethin' to fall back on. Lessen you got one a' them platinum parachutes. Help me jack Amato up to two cents a word. The day'll come when you'll thank me.

Sorry-that was for Preacher Boob
OK, I’m going on strike right now, you coming?

Huh?'s picture

I thought the awards-shows got a WGA-PGA waiver . . .

Preacher Boob's picture

Writers are nuts. Look at most of them here, on C&L. They take themselves seriously, as though their words are gonna make a difference. SSHHHEEEEEIIIITTTTT!

Words don't mean nothing, deeds do!

Go listen to some of Lenny Bruce's old tapes. Besides the obvious, if you pay attention, you'll learn that all words have at least two meaning. The one the speaker/writer means, and the one the listener/reader hears/sees. Since the speaker/writer can only guess at what meaning the listener/reader is going to take, he has no idea the true, complete effect of his words. Especially in a society like ours, where we've completely distorted the traditional meaning of words.

That's what Lenny taught me, personally. Words are to have fun with, to learn with, by guessing the effect they're gonna have on people, and seeing if you're right.

I was watching Lenny in the Unicorn in LA one night, when he was on a rant about the word coc*suc*er. He was in legal trouble then, and the Cohen brothers, who owned the Unicorn, kept their eyes open for cops. This night, there was a cop in the audience, sitting with his wife. Lenny did a bit about 'All your mothers are co*ksu*kers, you realize that?'. Followed by, 'All your wives are, too, if you have a happy marriage'. With that, he looked at the cop and his wife, and asked him, 'Is that your wife?', When he nodded his head, Lenny followed with, 'And is she a good co*ksu*ker?'

That's a little too much fun, but the point is, words don't hurt. Or shouldn't, especially in a society that truly believes in free speech. Be sane, for christ's sake, And don't take yourself, and this life, too seriously. If you ain't havin' fun, check out. Maybe the next stop will be better.

As for this life, and this country, well, once you distort the language, and restrict free speech, to any degree, you preclude freedom, and you'll end up, well, pretty much what we're close to now, and it is approaching the antithesis of freedom.

Preacher Boob's picture

suckerforpuns @ 41:

Preacher Boob @ 36:

suckerforpuns @ 32:

Preacher Boob @ 31:
My other job is CEO of a large oil CO.!!!!!!

You prolly feel pretty good now, but nothin' lasts forever. There ain't any more dinosawers dyin', not that I've noticed. There'll come a day when you'll need somethin' to fall back on. Lessen you got one a' them platinum parachutes. Help me jack Amato up to two cents a word. The day'll come when you'll thank me.

Sorry-that was for Preacher Boob
OK, I’m going on strike right now, you coming?

I'm with ya. Big strike meeting, here, tomorrow morning. Be there.

D to the Izzle's picture

Good. Maybe some of us Americans will pry our fat asses off the couch and go see some REAL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT! Anyone with me???

YellowSnow's picture

suckerforpuns @ 40:

anonymouse @ 37:

Not that I'll mind missing the Oscars, but the studios should pull their feudalist heads out of their arses and promise to pay writers for what is fairly theirs. Their argument is ludicrous in the extreme.

Has anyone in WGA proposed binding arbitration? I find it difficult to believe that any honest person would not find in their favor.

OK, I'm going on strike right now, you coming?

Sorry, ananymouse, are you suckerforpuns under a pixelnym?

Preacher Boob's picture

YellowSnow @ 46:

suckerforpuns @ 40:

anonymouse @ 37:

Not that I'll mind missing the Oscars, but the studios should pull their feudalist heads out of their arses and promise to pay writers for what is fairly theirs. Their argument is ludicrous in the extreme.

Has anyone in WGA proposed binding arbitration? I find it difficult to believe that any honest person would not find in their favor.

OK, I'm going on strike right now, you coming?

Sorry, ananymouse, are you suckerforpuns under a pixelnym?

YellowSnow @ 46:

suckerforpuns @ 40:

anonymouse @ 37:

Not that I'll mind missing the Oscars, but the studios should pull their feudalist heads out of their arses and promise to pay writers for what is fairly theirs. Their argument is ludicrous in the extreme.

Has anyone in WGA proposed binding arbitration? I find it difficult to believe that any honest person would not find in their favor.

OK, I'm going on strike right now, you coming?

Sorry, ananymouse, are you suckerforpuns under a pixelnym?

Hey, anonymouse, my mouse is stuck. What post number am I on? I'm looking for suckerforpuns.

craig's picture

So we don't get to watch that special four-hour-long commercial this year? Boo-hoo.
(The only worthwhile part of the oscars show is the tribute reel to the people who croaked.)

JohnnyBravo's picture

XuYu @ 3:

They can't just announce the winners on TV? They HAVE to put on all those stupid skits and tributes?

You know that's what always ticked me off about these award shows. If it's not the skits and tributes, it's the pre-show "what are they wearing" nonsense. They didn't do all this back in the good old days of TV and movies. Maybe this will teach Hollywood a lesson.

But still, I would like this strike to end.

zugzug's picture

Its about time. This is great news.

JohnnyBravo's picture

gallery @ 35:

...I only hope that all of the endless music award shows get cancelled as well.

Oh, don't get me started on them!

uncle joe mccarthy's picture

they could go with a no host non scripted shows...however, they cant use any clips because they need the wga waiver

this would cut the show down to one hour

im just totally shocked that the studios are going to cut off their noses to spite their own faces

they need the golden globes and the academy awards as they are both great promotional pieces

oh well....looks like the strikers are in for the long haul

looks like the socal economy is going to totally go in the shitter

can anyone spare a dime?

uncle joe mccarthy's picture

there is one sad thing about no academy awards....no tribute to the great and beautiful adrienne shelly, taken from us in her prime by a bastard illegal alien

im still at a loss as to why the fucker's employer (a rich upper west side prick) wasnt imprisoned for breaking employment laws

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Preacher Boob @ 15:

Listen, as long as the subject came up again, this writer's strike thing, let me remind you, the one-cent a word deal Amato has made with us is really scroogy. Are all of your contracts up at the end of the year, as mine is?

I say, let's hold out for two-cents a word, plus royalties if our posts get picked up by MSM or other blogs, and residuals if they're compiled into collections or books, as some of ours have been.

I mean, what's Amato gonna do, if we all strike the first of the year? C&L is great, but without posters, it's chopped liver, mashed Mostaccioli. If C&L don't keep humming, Amato'll lose his shot at becoming Italian Ambassador-At-Large in the Kucinich/BlueGal administration. So we have him over a (virtual) barrel.

Now is the time! Strike!

This is very funny....

itwsntme's picture

Hey everybody, it's not the writers or writing that matters in these awards shows. It's the stars.The STARS! won't cross the line to attend the ceremonies. No eye candy, no audience.

No film clips is bad too.

Libertas's picture

Preacher Boob @ 10:

The problem is not with the shows themselves, the problem is with the nominees.

There's no writing involved in the shows, it's the spontaneous 'thank you's the winners need that are the problem. And, of course, since no one knows who the winners are (heh,heh), all the nominees need thank you speeches written for them.

Yes, Virginia, those speeches, blushes, pauses, shy coughs and all, are written. I know, I know, but it's true. I swear! Really!

And GDit, Virginia, there is no Santa Clause.

Actually, there is some scripting involved - with the filmed tributes, and the hosts' jokes (good or bad).

abob's picture

I hope the writers strike means they televise the Oscars minus the boring speeches. That would be the greatest Academy Awards show ever. Hand out the little statues to the winners and go home.

Sany's picture

HORRAY!

noitaluspacne's picture

In place of the oscars, the networks should broadcast something that is actually educational... such as the money masters videos.

George (~Bush)'s picture

Well, that is about it for his campaign. Any male who mixes up the World Series and the Superbowl is obviously a Russian spy.

Justin's picture

Well, I do disagree that the Oscars are "another awards show" . They are THE awards show. I think we can argue over the legitimacy of the awards and all the singing and dancing but if they are canceled it would take the zing out of the Coens being the odds on favorite for getting their first best picture Oscar and a possible Best Actor and Actress speech if Johnny Depp and Helena Carter win their first. Some of the films nominated also give light to world atrocities or historical events. Also, a lot of designers and technicians depend on the Oscars to add some glimmer to their careers. It would been nice to see a possible tribute to Ingmar Bergman to give some publicity to his life that ended this year. It's not just the studios and entertainment magazine editors who lose.

rduke's picture

All I can say is ... GOOD..

I hope this leads to a fatal blow to the "celebrity" culture we have in this country and on earth...

Take away some of the Bread and Circuses so the proles can start paying attention to the overseer's

shoephone's picture

Powers Booth's career ended back in 1979? Hmm. Who was that I saw playing the abusive army husband in that movie with Jessica Lange? Or playing the Dick Cheney-inspired VP on "24" last season?

Anyway, I predict the Oscars will go on as planned. The Academy is surely flipping out over the potential loss of many $ millions if a deal isn't struck. And we can look forward to Jon Stewart making lots of little funnies about the strike throughout the telecast.

In all honesty, I haven't really enjoyed watching the Oscars since Johnny Carson quite being the emcee.

david g's picture

uncle joe mccarthy @ 53:

... a bastard illegal alien

you're a fucking asshole, and a racist. Plain old stormfront variety. Dumber than a box of rocks, and full of shit.

sled_dog's picture

So there will still be a best screenplay award, yes?

jr's picture

Mark Groubert's posts are always excellent

DA in LA's picture

jake3988 @ 39:

Absolutely stupid.

A) You don't need writers for an award show. Give out awards! Bring on a musical act if you have to. No writing necessary.
B) If you DO need writers, tough. Do it the best you can.
C) No reason should the writers saying no have any bearing on anything. If they don't give it their blessing they could go to greedy money hell for all I care.

No movie clips. None. Zero.

johnny canuck's picture

Six hours of phoniness down the drain..I'm heart-broken. Maybe this time could be used for something usefull...like an indepth debate...or public impeachment hearings.

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itwsntme @ 55:

Hey everybody, it's not the writers or writing that matters in these awards shows. It's the stars.The STARS! won't cross the line to attend the ceremonies. No eye candy, no audience.

No film clips is bad too.

Thank you. Finally someone gets it!
mark Groubert

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Justin @ 63:

Well, I do disagree that the Oscars are "another awards show" . They are THE awards show. I think we can argue over the legitimacy of the awards and all the singing and dancing but if they are canceled it would take the zing out of the Coens being the odds on favorite for getting their first best picture Oscar and a possible Best Actor and Actress speech if Johnny Depp and Helena Carter win their first. Some of the films nominated also give light to world atrocities or historical events. Also, a lot of designers and technicians depend on the Oscars to add some glimmer to their careers. It would been nice to see a possible tribute to Ingmar Bergman to give some publicity to his life that ended this year. It's not just the studios and entertainment magazine editors who lose.

Well put... I noticed that a lot of people seem caught up in the glitz and glamour of the Oscars. It seems some cannot see past the superficial aspects of the industry to move onto what really counts on an ideal Oscar night. The perfect Oscar night is a chance for the world to see what is deemed excellent. This excellence being exactness in replicating humanity. Replicating a story, a person, a world, in order to expand consciousness. Sometimes there is a hero or heroine that is so brave in the face of humanity that they should be idolized. Sometimes when we stop seeing heroes in the real world, the movies can remind us again what it is to be conscious, living, breathing, loving human beings. I believe not only do those who have never heard the message need to be awakened, but also the messengers sometimes need reassurance that the fight is worth it ( or that it's still even going on). Villains are just as necessary as heroes. Learning from the mistakes of Villains and also the retribution/punishment cast upon them can HELP inspire a peoples' mind in the post 9/11 era of lawlessness and greed.

Falling in love with ideas connected to people about what is, what has, or what could be, is a great thing. The actor is the person who takes the most spotlight because they are the visual representation of the project/vision/product. So it's only natural for your to blame them when they get exploited by media/print etc

Not only does idolizing certain ideals in the form of film help our people, but the Oscars is the artiste aficionados' night to tell the world in their own way what is best serving humanity. I know they don't get it right a decent amount of the time, but when they do it's a thing of beauty. Anyone who is a progressive thinker outside of the US knows that during times of tyranny and war, the one realm left to possibly describe the state of a people is art. When good art is made and then awarded at the highest level it can show that we the people still choose love over fear.

Sat night scat

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itwsntme @ 55:

Hey everybody, it's not the writers or writing that matters in these awards shows. It's the stars.The STARS! won't cross the line to attend the ceremonies. No eye candy, no audience.

No film clips is bad too.

Yeah it's the no writing, no clips, and no stars that will kinda put a damper on things..

SAG is virtually striking with the WGA. They're just waiting for their contracts to run out. But many a SAG member has been picketing with the rest of us...

michael72's picture

thanks for the heads up on this, Mark

some of my friends will be dearly disappointed that the Show Won't Go On.

as a writer myself, i just say, give the writers their fair share of the billions that these corporations rake in every year. geeesh!

charles's picture

What the fuck am I going to do with all these red carpets?

abob's picture

Powers Boothe was great as Phillip Marlowe in the HBO series. His work in Deadwood is not to be missed. He would have been intriguing as Sheriff Bell in No Country For Old Men.

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david g @ 66:

uncle joe mccarthy @ 53:

... a bastard illegal alien

you're a fucking asshole, and a racist. Plain old stormfront variety. Dumber than a box of rocks, and full of shit.

An illegal alien is an illegal alien. Stating a legal fact does not make a poster a racist and there is no need for such foul language.

ROM Spaceknight's picture

i'm glad there's a writer's strike. if america would collectively take time off from the boob tube, and really get to work on fixing the country, we'd have the neocon racket tossed out of office before easter.

sMel Gibson's picture

I'm going to cry

Radically Moderate's picture

It is so much easier on the eyes to check the paper the next morning to see who won what.
Instant gratification without commercials and endless bizarre and at times lugubrious thank you speeches............I love the smell of print on paper in the morning..............

rodeman's picture

Initially I thought thank god my prayers have been answered. I mean what kind of industry finds the need to pat themselves on the back every year? I mean we are judging art here aren't we? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all of that. Why don't we have an Oscar show for plumbers or auto mechanics......??
Come Oscar night you can bet those Giant egos will have their ass on the tube, one way or another.

ben's picture

too much advertising money in it. they will find a way to put it on.

fwacbar's picture

I hope I can find the will to live, devastating.....

It's is rather funny how play-acting and politics are similar though. It realy isn't so much the person in front of the camera as much as the people telling them what to say....

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noitaluspacne @ 61:

In place of the oscars, the networks should broadcast something that is actually educational... such as the money masters videos.

Actually... now that I think about it, those videos might be a tad boring for the kind of people that like to watch the Oscars/Globes. A Namoi Wolf talk would probably be better.

garcia's picture

Franly my dear, I don't give a fuck!

Paul's picture

I've never watched these ceremonies(don't even have a TV), but I'm glad the guild stuck to its guns.

John S's picture

Oh no! No waves of plaudits, self-love, and general adoration of all things Hollywood? No STANDARDS of excellence to reaffirm, a la "Crash" in 2006? Call my therapist!

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I'm behind the writers sticking it out until the studios suffer enough to negotiate as equals (or as close as they'll get). And I usually cannot stand watching those award shows...

But come on! The next time you strike, be damn sure it doesn't happen during a presidential nomination or election!!

No political satire before the vote is bad for the country. It's like having to listen to politicians with no beer handy... dangerous!

Bird Dog's picture

I'm totally with the writers on this. Of course the net works always have the recourse to expel another 'reality' tv turd. Except for a few gems I find the vast majority of what is on tv to be crap any way which has become dominated by reality tv.

Pari's picture

I support the WGA wholeheartedly -- on this and on the strike.

The AMPTP has pulled one dirty trick after another.

I just hope that American television viewers get sick of all this reality TV and pressure advertisers to get the AMPTP back to the table to negotiate in good faith.

I have too many friends who are suffering right now -- all because of some fat-cat corps who can't share pennies.

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I don't think Powers Boothe's decision back in '79 destroyed his career. It may have cost him some opportunities, but he's been working pretty steadily for decades:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000959/

Cliff Robertson, on the other hand, fell victim to blacklisting by a corrupt studio head, which hurt his career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Robertson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Begelman

I like the work of both actors.

- Tom

davy's picture

Considering the garbage Hollywood, television, and the music industry has been putting out for about 25 years I say good riddance to these greedy crybabies and their crap products.

Indywally's picture

Good riddance. I'd prefer to sit and watch paint dry.

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Well, no one wants to say it but you will be reading this shortly: The Golden Globes and the Academy Awards will be cancelled.

That's the best thing I've heard this year. Maybe, it will be the beginning of the end of those moronic awards shows. I know plenty of people who will be crushed by this news. Maybe those idiots will wake up and realize their lives don't revolve around Hollywood, there are better ways to spend your short time on this planet than to waste it watching the crap that passes for mainstream entertainment. Hmm. Probably not going to happen, but I can still do a little happy dance.

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Guess I'm the only person disappointed there will be no Academy Awards. This has been an absolutely incredible year for movies--one of the best in decades.

It would be nice to reward Hollywood for making so many movies of substance, despite the lack of box office success.

I'm firmly behind the writers, however, so whatever creates more exposure for their situation is a necessary evil.

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First of all, I'm sad that there will be no Awards. My wife's a costumer, and it's a delight to hear the take on what looks great, and what looks like shit. But these awards, it's more than just Stars, Writers, Directors, Producers, ad nasuem that will miss out, it's all the workers who work behind the scenes: Grips, electricians, set dressers, Makeup artists, Set makers, Caterers, Drivers, etc, AKA the working folk, the backbone of this industry. Shame on the producers being controlled by the 6 major media companies; shame on the writers for not keeping focused on the big issue: Streaming media. Shame on all of us for letting the middle, working class being marginalized by this corporate culture and it's drive to make us hit the bottom. Sad.

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davy @ 88:

Considering the garbage Hollywood, television, and the music industry has been putting out for about 25 years I say good riddance to these greedy crybabies and their crap products.

Oh come on now... there is NO movie, TV show, or song in the last 25 years that is good, in your opinion? Bit much, no? There is plenty of good stuff there that just gets ignored, passed over, or cancelled, IMO.

Although you have a point that that the Reagan era DID tend to make everything suckier: from Empire Strikes back to Return of the Jedi, from the clever Muppet Show to the inane A-Team, from the Bee Gees to early Madonna- wait, that's more of a step sideways...

Even some of the cartoony 80s schlock was OK though (my guilty 80s pleasures included War Games, and Magnum P.I., and the now embarrassingly bad synth 'classical' music). And some of us would say one or two of those grunge era bands were not too shabby, even the ones pimped by major labels.

StCyrlyMe2's picture

What the hell difference does it make when we now have these clowns fixing the crap anyhow?

These idiots have screwed up our media and it does not make any kind of difference, what they do to try and fix it, when we still have the same clowns running everything.

Oscar's picture

Hurrah! Everyone wins!

Give Me Convenience's picture

Yeah! The day when TV becomes obsolete can't come soon enough. I hope the strike never ends!

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Mark...
I'm trying to stay calm here, but I have to say... calmly... YOU FREAKING FRACKING INTELLECTUALLY LAZY EQUINE SPHINCTER!

"Well, as most people know, the saying dates back to the 1978 Jonestown Massacre and the poison laced Kool-aid (actually a product called Flavor-aid which was laced with Valium, chloral hydrate and cyanide) distributed by Rev. Jim Jones to his willful followers. 900 of them committed suicide."

It's possible that 900 people died at Jonestown in 1978, but given the horrendous number of them who were small children, the number who were elderly invalids, and the number who were herded back to the compound by bullies with shotguns when they tried to flee... it was NOT mass suicide, it was MASS MURDER.

Your glib and ignorant repetition of the portrayal of the event by the MSM makes everything you write suspect.

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J.R. @ 91:

It would be nice to reward Hollywood for making so many movies of substance, despite the lack of box office success.

It's not the audiences rewarding Hollywood, it's just Hollywood rewarding itself. The Academy Awards are, and always have been, nothing more or less than a marketing tool. In other words, a load of crap. We are, as a society,better off without them.

In theory, the reward for all the people who make movies, behind the scenes and not, comes from producing a fine piece of art and getting paid. Why do they deserve any kind of hero worship too?

liberalNmoderation's picture

Personally...I could give a rats ass about either awards show. Mindless drivel for self-congratulatory rich schmucks. I mean who watches that shit anyway? It's like reality shows in my opinion. Garbage.
That being said. I'm behind the writers 100%!

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Someone WRITES that stuff?

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