Huckabee's faith-based campaign freaks out establishment
If anyone from Bush’s inner circle is going to defend Mike Huckabee’s Christian-centered presidential campaign, you’d think it would be Peter Wehner. Not only is Wehner, the former White House director of strategic initiatives, a self-described evangelical Christian conservative, but he also helped oversee Bush’s faith-based office. It’s not like the separation of church and state would be high on Wehner’s priority list.
And yet, in an interesting WaPo op-ed today, Wehner said Huckabee’s emphasis on religion is giving him a “queasy feeling,” because the former governor’s tack is “disturbing.”
After noting a litany of recent examples — the “Christian leader” ad, the talk of being God’s anointed candidate, the theological shots at Mormons, and the “birth of Christ” ad — Wehner suggests Huckabee is confused about his goals.
This is a man who, in 1998, when explaining to a Baptist pastors conference why he got involved in politics, answered, “I got into politics because I knew government didn’t have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives. . . . I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ.”
Now isn’t that odd — a former pastor who leaves his ministry so he can get involved in politics because he “knew government didn’t have the real answers.”
Well, sure, when you put it that way, it is odd.
Wehner ends up focusing on how very unusual all of this, asking whether Huckabee is “playing the Jesus card in a way that is unlike anything we have quite seen before.”
Invoking one’s faith is not unprecedented in American politics and is not, by itself, disconcerting. It can even be reassuring. But it is also fraught with danger. If certain lines — inherently ambiguous lines — are crossed and faith becomes a tool in a political campaign, it can damage our civic comity and our politics and demean our faith. […]
Mike Huckabee, by all accounts a faithful Christian, may not have crossed any bright lines yet — but he’s edging close to them. He should pull back now, before his political ambitions injure what he claims to care about, and undoubtedly does care about, most.
All of this sounds quite persuasive, but I was on a radio show yesterday with my friend Bill Simmon who raised a good point: as aggressively as Huckabee is pushing a line, and as uncomfortable as he’s making a lot of people feel, there’s an upside — at least there won’t be any surprises from this guy.
In other words, Huckabee’s candidness has the benefit of transparency. There’s no real wink-wink here; Huckabee is laying it out there for all to see — on matters of faith, he’s a right-wing evangelical creationist who has admitted publicly that he wants to help take the nation “back for Christ.” It’s better for Americans to see that and evaluate those beliefs accordingly, than for Huckabee to believe this and keep his agenda under wraps.
To a certain extent, Huckabee is undermining American political norms and using Christianity in ways no credible, modern candidate has. But at a minimum, at least we know what we’re getting.
I wish I had a "Jesus Card" that I could play.
I am spending this glorious Christmas Eve with my wife and 4 children, ages 24 to 17. I am a German Irish Catholic. My wife was raised in a conservative Jewish family. My fourth child, a wonderful 17 year old young man is African American. I have a 1st cousin who converted to Islam and is married to a Pakistani who is wonderful and accepting.
My older brother is spiritual but at best agnostic. I would like to wish everyone peace and happiness.
Reagan's great alliance between Wall Street money and Conservative Kristian (not Christian) foot soldiers was predicated upon the Kristians doing what Wall Street said... not the other way around. Having a Kristian get elected by promising to maybe throw the Wall Street types the occasional bone was never their plan.
It's Christmas Eve for Jose's sake. Give politics a fucking rest... for Jesus.
to really test just how faithful all these faith-based bastards are, they should allow the citizens to crucify them and the last one standing wins, pun intended.
Chris Hedges (Truthdig): The Evangelical Rebellion
well worth reading ..
Huckabee Also Claims His Father Marched With Martin Luther
One thing you gotta admit, if Huckabee were elected, it would sure change politics as we know it.
Imagine inauguration day 2009, now known as 'First National Prayer Day' (subtitled, 'Brought to you by First Nation Bank').
There'll be Huckabee, giving a sermon, and the Marine Corps Choir singing 'Onward Christian Soldiers', lustily. As prayer attendees are overcome by the emotion of the parayer, and rush toward Huckabee, special SS agents, now known as 'Angelic Helpers', who are trained in the 'Healing Arts', will lay hands upon the swooning faithfull, who will be reinvigorated, and jump in ecstasy, and roll upon the White House lawn, and loudly express their 'Everlasting 'Oneness' with Huckabee and 'God''.
Designated 'Pastors' (formerly known as Interns) will pass among the devoted throngs, each time the crowd seems to reach an evangelical 'Peak', passing buckets along the rows for the collection of 'Love Taxes', which will take the place of the hated IRS.
Atheists, agnostics, and others 'Not of the Christian Faith' will be able to view the 'First National Prayer Day' convocation from designated meeting areas scattered around the country, provided with 12' non-HD B&W TV receivers. Smaller buckets will be periodically passed among them, and the 'Pastors' will be armed.
That'll just be the opening 'ceremony' of the new presidency, you can imagine the rest.
It'll be a cross between something scripted by Dante and illustrated by Bosch, and a National Orthodox Jews of Israel celebration at the Wailing Wall.
Yeah, but can Huckabee promise me my own planet when I die? That's what Mit can offer with his religion.
Matter of fact what's so great about this thing called heaven anyways?
Of course the establishment fascists are scared shitless of their monster. They know whose ring they'll be kissing if he gets control of government and starts pumping huge amounts of public money into the political organizing efforts of tax exempt evangelical proselytizers.
Chris Hedges has a good point.
When the real recession hits, and a goodly portion of the nation is reduced to begging for food, and the government turns all social services over to 'Faith-based' organizations, in order to get your babies free milk on the bread lines, you'll have to baptize them in the buckets provided, swear their and your 'eternal allegiance to the Good God above, his son Jesus, and the Almighty CrazyChristianEvangelicalFundamentalistBornAgainRapture Government of these 'States United in the Love of Christianity'.
Invasion14 @ 9:
Mitt's making a big pitch to the Muslim suicide bombers on the campaign trail. After all, all they are promised is 72 Virgins, and they have to wait until they get get blown up and get to heaven.
If they convert to Mitt's faith, they can get as many virgins as they want, from eight years old up, and get them right here, right now, no waiting.
Yeah, here it is, almost Christmas, and all Huckabee has contributed to the creche is a pile of donkey crap.
Every time I see Huckabee's commercial, with the cross, I get an almost irresistible urge to pick up a sledgehammer and some spikes.
Hey, this is Christmas, I should indulge myself. Anyone know where Huckabee's campaigning on Christmas Day?
As soon as we get our foot in the door with the biometrically designed identity cards for illegal aliens, to facilitate their deportation, and work out all the bugs in the system, including mass transportation to the border, we should demand biometric identity cards for christians.
Then, on a more or less relaxed basis, as they are stopped for various offenses, like double-parking, speeding, mass-murder at churches, and they are identified, we can slip them across the nearest border, or just put them to sea, with a survival pack.
That will certainly cut down the unreasonable size of the crowds that jam the nation's tourist attractions, like bleeding pieces of toast with images of the Virgin Mary.
Preacher Boob @ 15:
bethlehem
(pennsylvania)
A true follower of Jesus would abhor politics and only meet with politicians in an attempt to turn them away from their sinful path. Let's try to keep the Jesus-bashing to a minimum tonight. He may not have been the literal Son of God, but the Sermon on the Mount was good advice. I think he was someone I would have liked to share some beer with, unlike George W.
From my site:
"Huckabee has ALREADY become THE most powerful social conservative in America. The old guard of so-called "Christian leaders" are gone and, being only 52 years old, he's going to be around for a long, long time."
"The "establishment" is about to be told where the bus is going - and Mike Huckabee is driving it."
God save our country from Huckabee.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.
I like your Christ.I do not like your Christians.Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Gandhi
Pimping For Jesus
It's the Brit Pat Condell again on the United States Presidental Election and a couple of Republican candidates who are pimping for Jesus.
Warning..this might p-ss you off
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/12/pimping_for_jes.html
"vote for the d00d who made his dog body surf on the station wagon or the d00d who married his cousin or the d00d who was on Law and Order!"-Peggy Noonan attacking the apple of Chuck Norris' eye
'Huckabee freaks out the ESTABLISHMENT!??
I'm definitely not a member of the 'Establishment', but he freaks me out, too.
To the point of questioning my sanity. How can so many souls buy his bullshit?
Before seeing a shrink, I decided to hold a seance.
Got it touch with Rod Serling, presented him with the situation.
His first reaction was 'God, I died too soon. Could I have had fun with Huckabee!'
When I asked him for an explanation, he shrugged and said,
'Sh*t Happens'.
Didn't sound very profound at first, but the more I thought about it, I realized it was the perfect explanation for Huckabee.
joe cantwell @ 17:
Vote Huckabee in the primaries!
They gave us Lieberman in 06' so let's make them choke on Huck.
The corporatists running the GOP had no problems playing the knuckle-dragging social 'tards like the fools they are, but now that the very monsters they encouraged for so long are actually overshadowing the corporate wing of the GOP, the money-lovers feel oh-so-threatened
They know that Huckleberry has the ability to help drive the GOP even further into the political wilderness than W's been able to do, and it drives them all crazy-They remember just how unpopular using Terri Schiavo as a grotesque prop-over her husband's rightful objections-was for the overwhelming majority of voters in 2005
Good
The sooner, and harder, the GOP splits due to infighting between the Corporate lackeys and the Talibangelicals, the better off all the rest of us will be, and the sooner the GOP's pernicious influence is eroded, the better for our Constitution
KingCranky @ 27:
That would be all well and good if it weren't for the fact that Democrats are just every so slightly less Republican than a Republican.
The only thing you get when you mix religion and government/politics is poison.
It's all God's fault. If he'd stop sitting around and just watching, he'd come over here and sue the crap out of these idiots for misusing his and his son's names.
Preacher Boob @ 8:
I beg your pardon? The worst thing for me, as a Jew would be for this End-Timer to be elected.
"Convert or Die".
That's their motto.
Never anusim. Never dhimmi.
what only bushco gets to talk to jesus? i think butt fuckabee is doing a great job. if it is god's will that the nation be led by butt fuckabee then so be it. jesus will tell him the answers just like he told bushco. wake up people jesus is putting us on this road. we need people like bushco and butt fuckabee who know what jesus want us to do
I have lived under his rule for 3 years of his reign. All I can say is: STAY AWAY
Don't vote for this mofo. He only ++really++ became governor of our state after dropping that 100 or 150 lbs. Just think of what you'd do a woman in the same situation. Being affable and acting like his new doppelgangar, Barney Fife, is not reason enough to give a damn, much less vote for him!
As an Arkansan who has whatched the Clintons go at it, the Huckabees go at it (oh, wait? you haven't met his bully wife yet? It's hillarisous to me, as a person who has lived through this, that Hillary's acc9idness would even be an issue if you'd ever met Mrs. Huckabee. Be sure to ask her about remodeliding the Gov. Mansion and instead of moving headquarters into any hotel here, of which we have several very nice ones, including a Peabody, but that doesn't even really measure up to our "Capitol Hotel," recently redone on every floor, new chef brought in, awesome bar. However, the Huckabees turned down all such offers (there were other I'm not mentioning), and set up a triple-wide trailer on the front lawn of the governor's mansion. FUCKED UP CRAZYPEOPLE IN PUBLIC OFFICE TRYING TO SELL TRAILERS!!!!!!!!!! I'v e never been so proud to be an Arkansan as the holiday I came home and my mother drove me downtown to see the triple-wide trailer.
Now, a few things could be going on here. It's fully possible that he knew he'd run for prez. back then and so he's relating with trailer-park America. Then again, he's whacky.
I love Little Rock. I love Arkansas. I love the United States. I am relieved to have a brother who understands. Men understand men, no matter how much they pretend not to. Me and the Bear just try to keep her out of the way of Dad's slugger. Funny, that he's never hit her. Not so much as a tiny bruise. I don't remind him. I let him think she kept passing the open windows. But, Egg. What about Egg? What? What? Huh? he'd say in later days. We all knew there was nothing wrong with his hearing, but sometimes you need to hear it twice or three times from just the right person to HEAR it. [bro they didn't like--Jason?] never heard. We talked, we had others talks. We were afraid for him; one day he might stop at an open window, he was that sad--and lose it all.
What all, Joy?
Lovers
Dirty, disgusting lovers
Cock
Tongues and lips
and then she settled down
Whispers from your love
Pain in you cock because your lover wanted it so much
Your turn to answer the phone
Your turn to let it all out to the family
--No one will love you less; they will understand how to love you more
Barbells--you must start with the training immedieatelu. We only get one body, as far as we know.
Lilly?
Stop scaring us.
Period.
You feel like taking a dive, you call me and we'll talk about it first.
You never know. I might think it's a good idead you take the dive
Franny?
Bring me and Susie the baby. Everythinng is in action, all we need is here---just not a baby.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
The baby didn't make it, did it?
Don't tell the Bear now. She will kill you both, and pretending to be a bear.
Let me speak to you both while she's wrapped up on the phone with a rape! I say, as though I'm describing a conversation with Santa Claus.
Franny, I have to understand this soon. In the the next 48 hours, if I'm expected to tell my dear wife, who has been preparing for months.
I know it is not your fault, Franny, and I am not angry at you.. I am only angry at Jackson's pain.
You must call me tomorow and tell me
baby or no?
I love you and will support you,
Joy
Preacher Boob @ 13:
This is partially true. I was raised in Salt Lake City as a non-mormon. I did a LOT of snooping. You all should snoop around the idea that mormonism believes that heaven is envisioned upon polygamist ideals! CHALLENGE!!!
G
p.s. What is "fry sauce"
Gee, I wonder if Hickaboob is familiar with the Sixth Commandment. The current Buybull-thumper in Chief doesn't seem to have heard of it.
Could Huckabee be the Republican candidate to turn Utah Democratic? That's just too awesome a possibility to contemplate without easy access to a spare pair us underoos!
This is so funny to me. They sold Bush as the next coming of Christ to the ignorant rubes of America while winking at each other as though to say ("they'er buying it"). They knew he didn't believe this crap, and they knew they could control him. Huckabee believes the crap and is spouting the same message that the neocons used with Bush and he is getting the same rubes that Bush got.
Their Frankenstein monster has gotten away from them. There is no more winking and nodding to one another. Now there is ("oh shit!!!! What the hell are we going to do?")
foolme1ns @ 37:
aaaahaaahahaha, yes the republicans do seem to have a bit of a quality control problem don't they?
I'm glad someone posted that Chris Hedges link and highlighted that quote. I want to repeat it.
"Huckabee represents a new and potent force in American politics, and the neocons and corporate elite, who once viewed the yahoos of the Christian right as the useful idiots, are now confronted with the fact that they themselves are the ones who have been taken for a ride. "
Yes, well isn't it interesting when the birds come home to roost. A decade and a half ago I noticed this interesting dichotomy. I realized that the GOP would either become a full-fledged Christian political party or it would have to split into two factions, with one retaining its political focus and the other becoming a bonafide 3rd party (eg, the Christian one).
Well, it's happening. It took nearly 30 years but the takeover is almost complete. If you like the Taliban, you'll love the New and Improved GOP (tm).
Certainly the people will not elect a pastor for president (gulp).
Preacher Boob @ 12:
Cheeseandrice - sounds like the Spanish Inquisition all over again.
From a recent email on Huckabee:
~Nyc
if huckabee dupes the good people of Iowa, I think a victory in 08 for the dems will be a toss up,... (after all, who could have believed that bush could win in 04)
Lost in all this talk about playing the Jesus Card and the fact that at least one person in the White House is feeling "queasy" about Shuckabee's silly ad on TV is the book published a couple of years ago by a former aid to Arbusto who said that he had, in effect, sold out the radical religious right, that he pandered to it in the primaries and general election but did nothing to further its goals once he got elected. (It may be that one of the reasons the guy's book has been forgotten is that once he made it onto the pundit programs to push the work, he turned wishy-washy and back-peddled to an extent, probably not wanting to bite the hand that had fed him.) Maybe it's time to resuscitate that story and entertain questions as to whether Shuckabee is doing the same thing? Remember, this guy only cares about MONEY.
Any candidate that establishes faith in Christianity as a foundation of their candidacy should be relentlessly required to give an accounting for the Law found in their holy book.
Much of that Law is blatantly misogynistic. No deeper meaning lies behind the commandment to stone to death the unfortunate young girl who enters into a marriage with a torn hymen. No investigation into the cause is required by the righteous God. That Law is found in Deuteronomy, the 22nd chapter.
Whether she was raped, had an undeveloped hymen, or, God forbid, had a sexual encounter with someone, mattered not. Her sacred veil, that which guarded her holy of holies,the womb,was torn and she must die.
Men of that time believed that they were the possesors of seeds, that the entire human was found in those seeds. Women's wombs were merely the fields. Women were therefore the property of the men.
Damnable scietific inquiry led to von Baer's discovery of the mammalian ovum in 1826, followed by Allen's first description of the human ovum in 1928. Men posses "pollen" rather than "seeds." Science dashes the good book against the rocks yet again.
Candidates like Huckabee, indeed any loud moralist like Falwell or James Dobson, should be grabbed firmly by the scrotum and made to account for the "Law of God."
Was it a righteous God that commanded the death of those young brides, often at the hands of grizzled old "grooms"? Or was it simply the twisted logic of misogynistic herdsmen?
In his attempt to slam Huckabee, he slams Bush too and pretty well...
He's pissed because Huckabee is out Jesus'ing Bush and christianity IS beholden to Bush for constantly making them look devoid of common sense and logic. If ole Huck gets the nomination, it's going to be so fun to watch the GOP eat him alive... I've got charcoal and lighter fluid at the ready and the popcorn bowl is cleaned and just a waitin'...
Marty @ 46:
This "righteous god" will also abort babies and promote slavery and war. I agree with you. If Huckleberry wants to rule our nation by his bible, then he will need to pick and choose. The strange part is that the New Testament is in opposition to the Old Testament so the "Huckster" may need to choose which "god" he will follow. Will it be the "god" of the Old Testament or the "god" of the New Testament? Or will he be wishy-washy? I think he just wants the money and attention. Just another narcissistic sociopath.
A perfect christmas present from Marshall Brain's site
Why Won't God Heal Amputees?:
An Open Challenge To America's Christian Leaders
The Bible is the sacred text of the Christian faith. It is also one of the best known books on the planet today. According to the followers of Christianity, the Bible is the word of God.
Therefore, here is an open challenge to James Dobson, Rick Warren, Pat Robertson, George W. Bush, Antonin Scalia and other prominent leaders in the Christian community:
Appear with me on national TV to read the Bible.
It is that simple. This will be a tremendous opportunity for you to spread the power of God's word directly to the nation. The Bible is the book that contains the Ten Commandments, the revelation that Jesus is our resurrected savior and the story of our creation. This is God's holy word to his children. You will simply read aloud from this sacred text.
I ask only one thing:
Allow me to choose the verses that you will read.
I will not interrupt you or provide any commentary during your reading, nor will you. We will simply allow God to speak for himself through his holy scriptures.
Details
You will have the opportunity to read for 30 minutes from the New International Version or the New American Standard Version (your choice) of the Holy Bible.
I will choose approximately 30 verses for you to read. There will be a selection of verses from both the Old and the New Testaments. You will simply read the verses in an unabridged format, one after the other, allowing for commercial breaks as deemed necessary by the network.
That's it.
This television appearance is that easy.
We simply let God speak.
Understanding
The problem with the Bible is simple. What God says in the Bible is, in many places, quite offensive to us. As soon as we read the offensive parts of the Bible in public, we all realize that the Bible has serious problems and should have no place in our society.
Here are several of the passages that illustrate the problem:
* Deut 25:11-12
* Genesis 38:8-10
* Deut 21:18-21
* Deut 20:10-18
* Ex 35:2
* Lev 20:13
* Isaiah 13:13-16
* Exodus 21:20-21
* Numbers 31:14-18
* 1 Tim 2:11-12
* Col 3:22-23
* Luke 14:26
* Deut 22:13-21
* Isaiah 40:8
Whether you are a devout Christian or a casual Christian, consider these verses.
Do you believe that a perfect, loving, all-knowing God wrote them?
Do you support any of these verses and believe they should be applied to our society today?
If God exists and if he did "inspire" the Bible as Christians believe, then when we read the Bible out loud we are hearing our all-knowing God speak. Every Christian should jump at the chance to spread God's word on national television. The problem is that much of what God says when he speaks is repulsive to us. It makes us so uncomfortable that we cannot bear to read it publicly.
Why is the Bible like this? The purpose of this Web site is to help you explore this question.
He's had that page up for years now, so far, no takers.
I wonder why?
~Nyc
Preacher Boob @ 13:
Actually, the exact number of virgins available to martyrs is open to interpretation depending on who is doing the promising in Allah's name...
If it were me, I'd pass on the virgins, (too much work getting them up to speed, sounds more hellish than heavenly), and I'd go for 72 of the most sexually experienced women around, say around their late 20s, early 30s, when they are at their mental and physical peaks, and they'd all have to be into me and making sure that we all had a good time with each other.
Your mileage may vary.
~Nyc
foolme1ns @ 37:
It is a lot like reaping what you sow.
If you think this is bad, it gets worse. Huckabee recently spoke at Cornerstone ministries, who is led by John Hagee, another delusional, arrogant fraud. Huckabee called Hagee "One of the great Christian leaders of our nation."
Check it out:
www.mediamatters.org/items/200608170002?f=s_search
If the cult of Huckabee didn't scare you before or you thought he was some charming but harmless twit, think again. He is hanging with some big time nutjobs, pathetically pandering for their votes.
bmw 528 @ 52:
Huckabee and Hagee, what a team. Between them, they solidly disprove the 'theory' of evolution , since they haven't (evolved). Not only that
they're disproving Einstein and contemporary string-theory physicists, who believe that while multiple universes exist, on ''branes', for example, that passage between them is not possible. That's obviously bullshit, what other rational explanation is there for Hagee and Huckabee?
After years and years of fighting decent education as in fighting against teaching critical thinking and working toward nationwide group think in pushing nostalgic fundamentalism in order to inculcate a legion of mindless, ignorant followers, the Republican core certainly has made the bed they must now lie in.
Unfortunately, the rest of us have to deal with it too. The pig those bastards have fed for so long has grown into a mean boar and has crashed the fence.
I really do think we will see the rise of full blown fascism in this country, the Republicans have been working on its development for years. The only thing they are pissed about now is that there's mutiny among the rowers down in the Hold and they are threatening to overthrow the rest of the crew and their captain. They all are aiming for the same pot of fascism, its just more a matter of who gets to take the spoils once they lead the country there. Who is the truly anointed to the crown?
So, my only hope is we all survive this wave when it comes, that it is short and people will suddenly wake up realizing that fascism only allows hypocrisy for a chosen few, not every single follower on every day except Sunday.
It seems to me that frankly, the privileged (white male middle class mostly) will need to see their privilege challenged a bit before they understand what freedom and the Bill of Rights truly means. Hopefully for our sake, these people aren't all slow learners.
Dustin de Wynde @ 50:
If that's your preference, don't miss Guccione's New Year's party. Wear your Hefner costume. (Or Buffet costume, if you don't mind being out-of-style).
Libertas @ 31:
I was alluding to the meshuganahess that would prevail at the wailing wall if it were mobbed by all the orthodox Jews in Israel.
Make that 'meshugana'n'ess.
My friends,
Not that i would vote for this guy, but I'm considering working in his campaign. An election between Huck and any dem. (except Hil maybe) is going to skew the debate to the left. Huck is a populist, read "'King of the Hill' Democrats?"
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/magazine/26WWLN.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
And read his term records at Wiki, He dedicated new taxes to education, infrastructure developement, and did not create obstacles to health care legislation.
It is sad that his religious beliefs starts from the premise it has an exclusive relationship with the Creator(s). But a campaign between him and Edwards (for example) might have actual discussions about our country and how to improve it. So don’t ridicule this man, it is not in our best interest. If we end up with Clinton vrs. Romney it will be a rendition of the movie „History of the World prt.1“ the senate „ Bullsh#t, Bullsh#t, Bullsh#t.
Peace and Love to everyone on this Solstice.
I am an ex morman or LDS. But they are the best of all Religions the reason, they look out for every member of the Church. Pay your tites and go to church and you never have to wory the mormons will take care of you.
The Pale Scot @ 58:
It's surreal.
Excise Huckabee's religious bent and he's the Republican John Edwards.
No wonder perfect little elitist faux working class hero worshiping Miss Peggy "kinder gentler, machine gun hand" Noonan can't stand his ass.
I still think the christians are doing the rest of us a favor by crashing the repuke party. Lots will leave the repuke party that never should have gone there in the first place....
Preacher Boob @ 53:
Huckabee has to be pretty desperate, a fanatical kook, or both to think that Hagee has any sort of credibility. There was a CNN special that featured him and others about a week ago. Hagee is to put it mildly, a delusional charlatan right up there with people like Benny Hinn and others.
Anyone doubting Huckabee wanting to turn America into a Theocracy should read this:
EXPOSED! Mike Huckabee with Bill Gothard Last Week in Houston
It's called Gothardism it's probably already hit a government near you. Cincinnati has it in spades. It's basically and intertwining of government and religion through blind obedience at every level.
Article on Bill Gothard
Cincinnati Police: Enacting the Will of God?
About Kids Helping Kids, Abuse and Gothardism
The Republican Party has decided to open its dumpster this year and spill their candidates all over us.
I can't wait to witness more of the lying stupidity that has become this nation's stock-in-trade.
Of course, the trailer park vote will come in as usual for that hypocrite Huckabee.
As well as the vote from the folks whose family tree is a stump.
I now understand what a guy told me a while back about religion and politics....every day you listen to these nitwits you supposedly elected, all you can do is shake your head and mutter "Jesus Christ....."
If huckabee gets elected, his first action will be to create a cabinet level department responsible for the hanging and mutilation of dogs.
His son will be in charge.
Cantor de Mambo @ 41:
I thought there was no way my fellow citizens would elect a total fucking moron but look what happened, 2 terms of bush.
After what's happened since 2000, nothing would surprise me anymore.
Pastor Huckleberry hound will CONVERT to entire Musilim world to
pat roberston donations
At one time I liked Mike Huckabee. I'm a christian, and welcome the thought of having a christian in the office. Now that I know a little about him, he's one of the scariest candidates. Mike Huckabee is a fundamentalist jerk. He's too free with pardons, his family is in disarray, and he has more to say about Jesus Christ than he does about how he'd run the country. Having a christian as President is one thing, I think its more important to have a competent leader in the office. I agree with Peter Wehner.
I just heard TH say "This isn't like other wars. This isn't a geo-political awar--this is a theological war."
It was TODAY on the radio, on my npr radio station wbur, on the "On Point" show, where Tom Ashbrook was
doing a nice softball interview. Just think how great this is for Tom Ashbrook's career!!! See how important
it is to just go along and give these people access? And Mike Huckabee! He's such a great, glib, facile liar!
He'll be perfect as our next president. He's so inspirational.
And so exciting to have heard it first on National PUBLIC Radio...
John Dowd
oops--of course I meant "MH" for Mike Huckabee.
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