Bill O'Reilly says Musharraf has one more chance to get it right...Bolton and Dodd respond to the nonsense
By John Amato Thursday Dec 27, 2007 6:15pm
BillO called in to his guest host Laura Ingraham to give his thoughts on the Bhutto assassination in which he says Musharraf has one more chance to get with the program, or else! (rough transcripts throughout.)
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O'Reilly: I'm gonna say this on the Factor and people should write it down. Musharraf's last chance. Musharraf is going to wind up in a pool of blood. Just like Miss Bhutto, if he doesn't throw in with NATO and the United States and throw in tomorrow.
...so the US should have a very strong line privately to Musharraf. "This is your last chance, sir." You either do what you have to do and throw in with us and that means with advisers on missions or we're going to walk away.
Laura: It seems like we've been giving Musharraf many chances...
O'Reilly: This is it.
Here's a memo to Bill. There have already been numerous assassination attempts of him already. The administration is certainly not going to walk away from Pakistan. And as all the networks and pundits have been pointing out all day long (funny how they never talked about their nukes before)---the company line is that Pakistan has nukes and the US needs to protect them. SO who will that fall to. Mr. Bill? And his good pal John Bolton isn't very happy with BushCO's handling of Pakistan either. He thinks there's been too much meddling in their affairs. "Micromanaging" as he calls it.
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Bolton: I think by exceeding Benazir Bhutto's desire to get back in the game in Pakistan, seeing her as somebody as an alternative to Musharraf ---we in effect helped, helped precipitate this dynamic which has led to her tragic assassination. It's hard to see how that was the road to success.
Colmes: That's what I was getting at is that we were pushing Democracy by way of Bhutto thinking that if she can get in there and it seemed were tried to engineer this upcoming election , if she can become Prime Minister and some kind of a partnership with Musharraf ---one would seem like a marriage made in hell.
Bolton: I think this ought to tell us not to try micromanage what goes on in a country like this. What we've got now is a prescription for chaos....This is exactly what the Islamic fundamentalists wanted because now Musharraf has come under greater criticism.
What's O'Reilly going to say to his pal Bolton now? (I use Bolton reluctantly) And as far as I know Pakistan is not US property---doesn't Chalabi still wants in on Iraq?
Chris Dodd told Keith Olbermann that he thinks that Musharraf should be supported at all costs at this time and that the elections should be postponed until there are candidates that will run against each other.
Dodd: Putting somebody in charge of that nuclear arsenal in the middle of that chaos is a very dangerous step for Pakistan and for us at this juncture so stability is the key.
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fristy>>>>>
The Saudis and Pakis have been such a help to us. Taking all that money off our hands for us. And their work on tracking down Osama has been spectacular.
bill oh'riley is my life expert on all things ferin' and domestic. what he says goes. infallable more even than da Pope.
I can't stand listening to O'Reilly and his childish hysterical bloviating so I didn't watch his clip but I find it sriking that Dodd and Bolton would be advocating the same actions in regard to foriegn affairs. Goes to show just how out to lunch O'Reilly is. Makes me wonder just how folks can give him even an ounce of credibility and why ignorant and angry idiots like him are given such a powerful platform. So sad.
Bolton took his "happy" pill for that interview.
So O'Reilly tells us that there's "no security" in Pakistan, and that its military and police force are infiltrated by al Qaeda and other Islamist terrorist groups. So why exactly have we (the U.S.) spent $10 billion (!!!) on aid to Pakistan since Musharraf agreed to work with us post 9/11? Is it safe to say that this $10 billion has been, at the best, wasted, and at the worst, used to bolster the very groups in Pakistan that have become increasingly made up of members of terrorist organizations hellbent on destroying us? Why are we afraid to pull our economic aid out of Pakistan when this aid has achieved nothing?
and then o'liely woke up from another strange dream.....
Don't ya love the way that towards the end Billo insults all Americans?
Does anyone REALLY CARE what these dip-shits, Bill0, Ingraham, Bolton have to say?
Looks like we should have retreated from that part of the world and spent all that money on domestic defense
billo called in from the men's restroom in minneappolis. he was practicing his wide stance while his wife shopped for larger personal batteries....if you get what i mean.
Once again Dodd appears as the best presidential option this country has.
Bolton sounded quite rational. I dont know what BillO sounded like, I wont bother with his commentary.
Pakistan is not really under the control of Musharaff, its just the Army that is. I dont think Pakistan is, or will be anytime soon, under the control of anyone, but whomever has the military under control has de facto power.
And Musharaff is probably under orders to keep Bin Laden alive, al Qaeda needs a face, and the little Egyptian guy is camera shy. It's more PR than anything else
over @ prisonplanet i just saw an article about a youtube clip of an interview w/ bhutto where she says bin laden is dead, murdered by omar sheik.
the interview is from some british show called "frost over the world".
it's not just that she states bin laden's dead, it's the nonchalant way she says it, as if it's just common knowledge in the muslim world.
I just gave myself permission to believe that Bill O'Reilly does not exist. Ahhh! THAT feels better! Now I won't ever feel the need to read anything by or about this cipher as his existence is now in question. I would do the same for Peggy Noonan but she's just too much fun. O'Really gets all jacked up on anger which makes him just another angry white man. Peggy remains calm and lady-like while being just a wee bit certifiable. She's just more amusing and I find I need levity more and more these days. My wish for 2008: a live debate between Peggy and Gore Vidal.
Read Fatima Bhutto's LA Times Op-Ed, written two weeks ago about her aunt: "Aunt Benazir's false promises -- Bhutto's return bodes poorly for Pakistan -- and for democracy there." I read it at the time, but it bears re-reading.
Like Bolton and orally know shit. My dog is way smarter than the two of those idiots put together and multiplied x 10.
"This is your last chance, sir" Wow. what an effing toughie. I'm sure Mussharaf is quaking over the imagined balls and tiny stiffie Dildo is hefting around as he spouts his crap. A phone sex masturbator loser issuing threats.
And Bhutto in Pakistan? An assassination waiting to happen.
The surface bickering of the neo-Cons hides the real agenda. Pakistan either has to be a totally stable dictatorship under American auspices or it has to be de-nuclearized.
The determination amongst the Neo-Cons running the show is that Pakistan cannot be stabilized. Pakistan, therefore, has to be thrown into a state of anarchy allowing the at the very least, an invasion of American or Israeli commandos who will destroy Pakistan's nuclear facility.
The killing of Benazir is just the beginning of this plot.
Miles Tougeaux @ 12:
I agree but our media doesn't. And we all know the media decides the elections.
Jose Cabron @ 18:
You're guessing.
It would be nice if Mr. O'Reilly would run Mike Huckabee's campaign. That way we can keep all the monkeys in one cage.
The day I no longer have to see that walrus-looking motherfucker Bolton on ANY screen or in print again, will be a good day indeed.
Why do these shows insist on continuing to bring on the most loathesome, scummy and failing personalities on the political scene?
abarts @ 2:
You probably didn't at all mean it that way, but "Paki" in some places is an offensive racial slur. And I'm not just saying that as a knee-jerk liberal - if you said that to a man who looked Pakistani in London, you might get beat up.
ROM Spaceknight @ 14:
The Bhutto quote appears to be an error as the man she says murdered Bin Laden (Omar Sheikh) is actually the man who killed Daniel Pearl.
Thew facts are that Musharif parrots what Bush tells him to say. Bin Laden is dead.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/242.html
odanny @ 13:
Is there a country anywhere in the world that hasn't suffered from US interference?
If there is one, can you tell me where it is?
Then I'll move there and live happily ever after.
Everything you touch turns to shit.
I'm curious, have the hillbillies found a way to tag Hillary or Bill with Bhutto's assassination yet? I mean, this is INEVITABLE with that crowd, right? No Photoshopped images of a burka-wearing Hillary with a high-powered rifle in her hands bouncing around the Net yet?
Billo, get a clue. The Pakistan government was behind the assassination of Bhutto. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Okay, even an unhinged retard can figure this out, which is why you barely qualify to figure this out. So figure it out.
Scary. I agree with John Bolton.
As reported Bhutto was going back to whether or not the U.S. was going to back her and for Bolton to say this is what happens when we " try to micro manage " is ludicrous and BS . The U.S. has a long history of interfering , over throwing , assassinating, manipulating, starting riots, financing coups and this Imperialist talks about ..." micromanagement " .
This idiot has no credibility or a bone of honesty , besides ... I R A Q was the ULTIMATE MICROMANAGEMENT . Bush rewrote all their business laws , to buy up their BANKS , Telecommunication , and other state owned industries , placed U.S. executives in every ministry as " consultants" including oil , where they placed a convicted FELON Chalabi .
Too listen to a never was funny comic , turned Murdoch LAPDOG Colmes and Bolton talk about foreign affAIRS IS like putting money in a coke machine and expecting advice on world peace .
Russ Mason UK @ 27:
Coming from a citizen of the UK.... how feckin' funny is that, eh? Physician, heal thyself.
you mean "numerous assassination attempts on" HER.....not "him"
O’Reilly: I’m gonna say this on the Factor and people should write it down.
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Really bill oshithead?!?!? Well every time media matters writes down what you say you call them far left loons or character assassins. Now which is it dickbag?
TC-14 Says: I’m curious, have the hillbillies found a way to tag Hillary or Bill with Bhutto’s assassination yet? I mean, this is INEVITABLE with that crowd, right? No Photoshopped images of a burka-wearing Hillary with a high-powered rifle in her hands bouncing around the Net yet?
...now that you mention it.....
Jesus, all these reporters are ridiculous. THE US HAS NO RIGHT TO INTEREFERE OR INVOLVE ITSELF IN ANY PAKISTANI AFFAIRS AND SHOULD STAY OUT. What happened is horrible, but its not up to the United states to figure out what happens from here. If people are worried about our troops in Afghanistan coming in harm's way somehow, well....WHO PUT THEM IN HARM'S WAY? Bring them home now and end this madness.
"I see the Clenis behind the assassination. Yes, indeed, absolutely the clenis is behind this". -- Bill Orally
John Bolton ALWAYS looks like he smells something bad. Maybe he should change deodorants.
How could anyone doubt the esteemed and lettered political scientist Bill O'Reilly?
anney @ 38:
Who knows what is or was living in that mustache...
Maybe the "bad guys" are really the good guys. They just got a bad rap. Crap artists like goldBush painting them in a bad light. Maybe these are the good guys on the horizon come to take the 1%'ers out.
Maybe the bad guys are the good guys.
Wasn't it Oppenheimer who forsaw the dangers of the original atomic creation? Like Pakistan is really afraid of America. Our mess to clean up, again and again, shall we ever learn our lesson.
Well, gee, if someone were to assassinate Musharraf, that would be al-Qaeda ... which means WHO gets the nukes again, Bill?
Hell, we're not even in a position to effect a regime change, because we can't afford to have a moment where the nukes aren't under positive control (even when that's as tenuous as Musharraf's).
The consequences of ignoring al-Qaeda to have a nice circle jerk over Saddam and his make-believe WMDs are coming home to roost. For all the bloviating about keeping the world's worst weapons out of the hands of the world's worst people, we've done nothing but make it more likely and quite possibly easier for al-Qaeda to get their paws on as many as 50 nuclear weapons.
We're faced with a Hobson's choice - support an effective military dictatorship, or cede the country to the Taliban.
Beyond Bolton, let's not forget the scintillating minds of National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and his former boss, Condoleezza Rice. That Rice was making plans on the outcome of an election is just laughable, since she willfully ignored the projections about Hamas taking over from Fatah in Palestine. (And just how DO you assure that your favored candidate wins the election, hmm?)
Of course, Musharraf's actions show he didn't trust the U.S. for a moment - his State of Emergency dance appears to have secured his presidency regardless of any election. And perhaps (apart from being a completely clueless putz) that's why Bush didn't make much of a fuss over it ... because we'd already 'struck a deal' with Bhutto and Musharraf.
What was that about 'we're not in the business of nation building'???
You know, I just noticed something: If we hired a CGI geek to map out everything but his moustache anytime he was on TV, we'd be left with a John Bolton Panderscope. The damn lip-fur curves about as he postures and sneers, and thus generates its own bell curve. We should be able to measure his level of BS just by watching the moustache ocillate.
You'd figure that most Republicans would be Realists in terms of poli-sci.. but Bush has turned that on its head and O'Retard and the rest of Fox news has followed along. Its not that they're conservative, or even Republican in nature, they are straight up neo-cons, and thats the worst they could be.
billy's an idiot, you didn't know that?
Oh yeah, like the rest of the world gives a fuck what Billo or Laura Ingraham say.
abarts @ 2:
Israel has taken more than anyone in the region could ever dream of taking. And as far as tracking Osama, you're delusional if you think even the CIA was interested in catching him. Bush could care less and the constant drone of numbing propaganda from people like you is getting old.
abarts @ 2:
And one more thing, numbnuts, the "Pakis" don't want U.S. involvement, it's Musharraf, a dictator, who's been propped and nurtured by the U.S. a usual. If anything, you should be upset at the U.S. government instead of throwing around your ignorant comments. Some people need to educate themselves before they open their gaping holes.
Shadowgm said:
"Well, gee, if someone were to assassinate Musharraf, that would be al-Qaeda … which means WHO gets the nukes again, Bill?
Hell, we’re not even in a position to effect a regime change, because we can’t afford to have a moment where the nukes aren’t under positive control (even when that’s as tenuous as Musharraf’s)..."
Here's an upcoming secret communique from our Chimpinator In Chief to Musharraf: 'Remember a couple months ago when I, er uh, told ya you need to take yer uniform off? Well, uh, I guess ya need to put it back on now. And, uh, right away!'
Hmmm
The Way Dildo O'Reilly lays it out...
It seems like WE had the most to benefit from her murder...
I don't know if I can watch the bolton clip... Unless that white caterpillar on his lip wakes up and eats him of course.
Of course, what none of them are mentioning is that the U.S. supplied Musharraf with the equipment to survive those assassination attempts, including the jammers to blow up the roadside bombs before his motocade reached them. They didn't give anything at all to Bhutto.
(And I don't think Bill-O is referring to Musharraf being assassinated. I think the 'pool of blood' reference means that Bill-O is going to go over there and clobber him, or something. And Pakistan will suffer, no doubt, because Bill-O will call for a Bill-O-cott on Pakistani goods. A boycott that has already cost the Pakistani economy BILLIONS, according to..The Islamabad Business Review...)
"Miss 'Biyooto?'"
*shakes head*
I think that big fat lout has been watching too many Popeye cartoons. She has nothing to do with Bluto! But then again, I think I suddenly understand where Bill-O is getting all his ideas about foreign policy. It all boils down to "why doesn't the U.S. just eat a can of spinach, and go punch out all the bad guys? It must be those damned liberals who are hiding the can opener!"
Does the U.S. even have a foreign policy anymore? Does anyone know what it might be? When Casey Stengle asked "Can't anybody here play this game?" he was speaking with considerable authority about baseball. It seems that regarding foreign affairs our self professed authorities are all talking out their asses.
Got Milk?
McDuff, regarding posts 49 & 50, WTF are you talking about? Are you truly that oblivious to sarcasm? What propaganda? I'm confused.
Billo's the biggest authoritarian cultist on the planet
Laura: It seems like we’ve been giving Musharraf many chances…
O’Reilly: This is it.
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Oh, right, more worthless, tough guy ultimatums from BOR. This is the same fool who keeps pushing out the goalposts on Iraq with his meaningless ultimatums.
Sept. 26, 2005 - O'REILLY: "If they've got 90 battalions of Iraq troops, I mean, within six months, they either do it or they don't. I mean, we can't be South Vietnamese all over again. Either you fight or you don't. That's it."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509270010
Jan. 24, 2007 - On Iraq, BOR said, "They've got six months and that's it."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200701250014?f=s_search
June 20, 2007 - "...Bill O'Reilly asserted, "I'm gonna tell you that the big picture is, the Iraqis have two more months. They've got two more months. And if they don't step up and help more than they're helping" on oil legislation and security, "in two months, it's over."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200708200009?f=s_search
And BOR is also the guy who said he'd never trust the Bush admin again if Saddam has nothing. Yet, despite Saddam having nothing, time and time again on his TV and the radio, BOR shows that he believes/supports the BushCo propaganda and aids them by providing cover for them instead of questioning what they do/why they do it.
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Laura: It seems like we’ve been giving Musharraf many chances…
O’Reilly: This is it.
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Oh, right, more worthless, tough guy ultimatums from BOR. This is the same fool who keeps pushing out the goalposts on Iraq with his meaningless ultimatums.
Sept. 26, 2005 - O'REILLY: "If they've got 90 battalions of Iraq troops, I mean, within six months, they either do it or they don't. I mean, we can't be South Vietnamese all over again. Either you fight or you don't. That's it."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509270010
Jan. 24, 2007 - On Iraq, BOR said, "They've got six months and that's it."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200701250014?f=s_search
June 20, 2007 - "...Bill O'Reilly asserted, "I'm gonna tell you that the big picture is, the Iraqis have two more months. They've got two more months. And if they don't step up and help more than they're helping" on oil legislation and security, "in two months, it's over."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200708200009?f=s_search
And BOR is also the guy who said he'd never trust the Bush admin again if Saddam has nothing. Yet, despite Saddam having nothing, time and time again on his TV and the radio, BOR shows that he believes/supports the BushCo propaganda and aids them by providing cover for them instead of questioning what they do/why they do it.
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"O’Reilly: I’m gonna say this on the Factor and people should write it down."
You know, this says it all. Here we have a certifiable loony demonstrating just how megalomaniac he can be. Bill-O lives in a solipsistic world where he is The Teacher of Mankind, a font of both wisdom and exhortation. We're actually directed to write down the ravings of this moron, a person who exhibits all the trademarks of a person suffering from delusional personality disorder. He doesn't know the difference between a loofa and a felafel, yet he's telling us to write him down? Give us a break!
Every point Bolton made can be transfered to pre-invasion Iraq. Were was he then?
How fucking obvious can it be when Bolton gets it right? This is no time to start issuing ultimatums, Billo. How about a little fucking calm for a change.
Bolton's mustache looks like it's made of iron
Invade Pakistan now: there's no way it can be ruled by the gun-- democracy NOW! Ok, now on to Bolton's spiel. (Are we one of those "nutty leftie sites"?)
Let's blow the top off the U.N. and then invade. Musharraf isn't playing well with others and he's undemocratic. I am the walrus, I am the eggman goo goo g' joob... (can someone cut him another cheque for $9 billion first; before we invade??)
Bob in PA @ 51:
I love the irony of the "Commander in Chief" having the balls to tell another dictator to take off his uniform. He may not wear olive drab, but that little lapel pin says it all.
I know it isn't nice to speak ill of the dead, but does anyone remember their recent history? Bhutto WAS an American puppet and her people hated her. She was corrupt as hell. She went to the finest most expensive schools, while her people did without basic necessities of life. She played a queen. She was a US puppet. Then the military tossed her aside, and Mushy became a US puppet. Then she went to the US government and said, "hey, I'll go back and be yer puppet" and they were ecstatic, cuz Mushy's people were giving him a hard time. In her terms in power, she was buddies with the Taliban, and so called "terrist" organizations, just as Mushy is. Just goes to show, everytime Uncle Sammy sticks his nose in other nations, shit hits fan, and nothing works out as planned.
How nice to hear Bolton understand that micromanaging other countries leads to trouble. Perhaps he will suggest we next pull our bases out of the 100 countries around the world as a long term solution. I don't think Bolton had an epiphany, just a momentary flash of sanity.
Bill says "We can walk in there tomorrow and wipe these guys out." By we he means other peoples children.
I wonder if Musharraf has a 'Smart Nuke' that will fly right up O'Reilly's ass.
Now would be the time, Pervez.
O'Reilly is really nuts.
Here John Bolton and his buddies at the CIA pulled off a clean 'False Flag' assassination of Bhutto, with Al Queda getting the blame, and O'Reilly's stirring the pot.
Who knows what dirt/truth will turn up now?
If O'Reilly's not careful, he's liable to be trying to broadcast from a cave in Afghanistnan, or Pakistan, with a paper cup and a string.
What a boon for mankind that would be.
Bill Orielly must be doing some of those illegal drugs his buddy Rush Limbaugh is so addicted too, if he really thinks a leader in Pakistan is going too go away or on his last leg just because Orielly says so, or his shills Bolton and company, whom if they had any real world significance they would be still in power or getting high ratings. Bill Orielly and Bolton and company are the ones who are on their last leg of importance only the die hards who worship Bush as a messiah still pay any attention to them at all....., truth is some unscrupulous american politicians/persons presuaded this woman too go too Pakistan for their purposes, as puppet of america and the expected result is she is killed, just goes too show those trying too manipulate Pakistan have no idea what they are doing, since thier culture, and society is foreign too us, and for us too think we are going too "correct islam" too our view is just foolishness, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq have been tried for over 200 years too be ruled by the west, it has ended in failure each and every time, and one would think those past failures would be a guide too wise men/women but apparently we do not have wise men/women leading us....
My opinion is view life from the other persons perspective, imagine how we would react if the shoe was on the other foot, and we were a 3rd world nation, with no real military power, such as most in the middle east, and if the islamic nations were the all powerful west, trying too dictate too us, their morality, religious views, we would not tolerate it, and would rebel from it, so the idea we are going too "correct islam" too our view is total foolishness at best and total insanity at worst, and anyone who wastes money, energy, human life on this endeavor is wasting their time, energy, money and worst of all human life, let them find their own futures, which they will anyway, and what we wish will never be effective anyway...!
For a thoughtfull perspective on who can do what to whom, this is worth the read.
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ideas/article/289353
"O’Reilly: I’m gonna say this on the Factor and people should write it down. Musharraf’s last chance."
Okay, BillO, we'll write it down so we can come back and taunt you with it when our government gives continues to give Musharraf chance after chance. It can be like the audio of tape of Ellis Henican giving you grief when you gave the Iraqi situation more and more and more time...even after you said "this is it" several times.
BillO and his declaration of "Musharraf's last chance" = "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
When O'Reilly starts throwing ultimatums at the head of a nuclear nation, it may be a good time to move to another planet.
no one should ever listen to billo or any neocon. These people only care about themselves, not America or it's people. neocons are just selfish greedy bastards!
Bolton gets it right for a change? Maybe, but not if it is in the interests of certain forces to see World War III for real with an excuse to use nuclear weapons and abolish the last shreds of constitutional democracy here because real or imagined "Islamo Fascists" have taken control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
By the way, to correct Orally, the reality-based community got the Pakistan danger way before his far-right wingnut crowd got it. It's one of the reasons why we knew Iran military activity would be a bad idea.
And notice how these wingnuts haven't even entertained the notion that Musharraf himself was behind this? No, it has to be Al Qaeda. So they can spin it into the War On Terror.
O’Reilly: I’m gonna say this on the Factor and people should write it down.
I can't control my pen! It keeps writing, "Fuck Bill O'Reilly!"
This is the perfect world for Bill and his friends.
Violence, war, political assassinations, WMD's. What military types like to call a target rich environment. Rock on mein fuhrer.
This is the question people should start asking: "Why did Musharraf's government, for each trip, refuse to give Bhutto the same level of security protection afforded to high-level government personnel?"
There's a common thread among all the right-wing bloviators, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, et.al.
They've all outlived their useful lives.
Bolton needs to trim that beaver's tail before I can take him seriously.
Why would I need to listen to billo's "analysis" when I can get the same analysis at cock fight night in Bossier City?
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