Noonan defines 'reasonable'
The WSJ’s Peggy Noonan argues today that her top characteristic when evaluating presidential candidates is “reasonableness.” The former Reagan speechwriter insists: "We are grown-ups.... We’d like knowledge, judgment, a prudent understanding of the world and of the ways and histories of the men and women in it."
At face value, there’s nothing especially troubling about this standard. Noonan is setting the bar fairly low, but she’s sketched out a relatively practical model. That is, until Noonan starts applying her standards to specific candidates. Here’s her take on the former senator from North Carolina:
John Edwards is not reasonable. All the Democrats would raise taxes as president, but Mr. Edwards’s populism is the worst of both worlds, both intemperate and insincere. Also we can’t have a president who spent two minutes on YouTube staring in a mirror and poofing his hair. Really, we just can’t.
Noonan had just finished arguing that American voters “are grown-ups,” and then she turns around and takes on John Edwards’ hair? What’s more, Glenn Greenwald notes that “poofing” isn’t actually a word, “but rather, a British epithet for a male homosexual — ‘Slang: Disparaging and Offensive’ — a synonym for ‘faggot.’”
Noonan’s looking for a candidate with a “prudent understanding of the world.” I’m looking for a columnist with the same attribute.

Peggy Noonan is a RANK AMATEUR who should take more time examining how she got where she is... After reading her diatribe, I cannot stomach any more of it.
How do hacks like this get jobs with prominent media like WSJ? Where the hell are the industry standards?
I'd much rather have a president who spends two minutes to make himself presentable to the world than an ignorant moron who can't even wipe himself properly.
Did Noonan write this hogwash before or after learning that the top candidates in Iowa are in a dead heat?
Run, Peggy, run, the GOP sky is falling!
No HRC fan here, but Noonan knocks her as not reasonable because she triangulates? What? Isn't triangulation- searching for the middle ground- kinda the definition of reasonable?
There is nothing--nothing, I tell you--worse than a republican bitch.
Is that headline a typo? Shouldn't it be "Noonan Defies ‘Reasonable’?"
Jtraynor @ 2:
Well it is the WSJ, after all. And Peggy did work for Reagan.
noonan is hunting for an energizer battery for her over-worked v.........
Peggo loves teh stupid.
She's going to be buried sitting on Ronald Reagan's face. I love when people like her and Bill O'Reilly bash Edwards. Makes me want to vote for him even more.
Noonan the Stepford Conservative. She's like Bloody Bill Kristol -- except in Kristol's case there's some flowing in his veins.
Get ready for the sh*t to fly, cause the repugs can really stir up distractions to anything of substance when it comes to analyzing characteristics for the leader of our nation. After all....look what we ended up with for the last 7+ years....a moron that never should have been in charge of a filling station quickie mart. They managed to make his opponents look like the devil incarnate.
They will be slipping into hyper mode when it comes to tossing crap in the air now that we are getting close to the primaries, and you have to just take a look at their roster to see how pathetic their strength is.....non existent.
Sad part, as always, the dim witted American public will eat it up. It works, and they know it too well.
And here we are again, evaluating hair styles. Tell me when the beltway pundits resume evaluating socks, aqua velva smell, and house interior decorating.
She writes like a high school sophomore--she is just hideous and wrong. Hey Piggy, who is so substantive on the republican side? Rudy?
See the whole article.
She sees Bush as the guy first on the scene at a house fire to make sure the kids got out.
WTF?
Like 9/11?
Like Katrina?
Only in the GOP fantasy world is Bush that guy.
Like I said before, Noonan would be screwing Reagan's corpse if she could get at it.
Of course she also considers Giuliani "reasonable," even though he has appeared a couple of times in drag -- dontcha imagine he spent some time in front of a mirror getting his hair and makeup done? And how much time did King Ronny spend having his hair and makeup done?
Alas, the "faggot" issue only arises for Dems, no matter how many Widestance Larrys or Pageboy Foleys the GOP produces.
Oh, I see Peggy. But we CAN have a president who openly joked about nuking Russia during the tensions of the cold war. "BEEYOTCH!"
So let me get this straight. We can't have a president who was the subject of a hacked-up smear job that got posted to YouTube, but we can have a President who, after mussing his hair a bit, flips off the camera. Got it.
This is akin to the "adults are back in charge" nonsense Ms. Peggy and the other adolescent media cheerleaders were chanting before and after Little Lord Fauntleroy stole the White House in 2000.
Studies show that Edwards would destroy any republican in the general. They do not want to run against him.
She is attempting to end his run in the primary.
Stop this tit for tat smack and expose them for who they are.
How does a drunken has-been like Noonan still have a column? She was never reasonable in her entire career, a flamethrower from the get-go she gave no quarter. Now that the GOP lineup is a cut below the keystone cops, she wants mercy. That cow needs rehab then retirement.
My cat regurgitates hairball that are smarter than Noonan. Hack Hack!!
Thank you for including Peggy's name in the article. I'm tired of hearing from people asking me why I'm bashing their particular candidate. Let's keep the mean comments to a minimum :)
Yeah, why can't he rally the masses on intolerance like Dubya?
Well, my hero Glenn is wrong. "Poofing" is the present participle of poof, which also means to fart. My wife always talks about poofing up her hair, and she says it to me, because she thinks my air needs poofing. [What it needs is a rug.] She said it's a hairdresser term. Noonan was writing to Americans, not Brits. In England, they call cigarettes "fags." So go figure.
As for Noonan's article, I thought it was a high step above what has sounded maudlin from her for so long. She's a good writer, whether you agree with her points of view or not. And I definitely agree with here Hillary take.
Sorry for the typos. I blame it on the wine.
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Also we can’t have a president who spent two minutes on YouTube staring in a mirror and poofing his hair. Really, we just can’t.
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Two whole minutes? My God, where does the time go? He could have cleared a whole lot of brush in that time. Or given the Chancellor of Germany an unwanted back rub. Or talked to Tony Blair with food in his mouth about Hezbollah.
Yep, if only Edwards could live up to these standards, why he'd earn two terms in office with your full support, wouldn't he Peggy?
- Tom
RW @ 1:
More like SKANK Amateur. ;-)
"We’d like knowledge, judgment, a prudent understanding of the world and of the ways and histories of the men and women in it.”
Yeah - that would have been nice at any time during the past seven years of our national nightmare. Noonan is an insipid nitwit who should be ignored. What a disgrace to journalism. Unfortunately she has lots of company.
You may not be able to use 'swear words' but I can and I say fuck that bitch and here's hoping that the dead, demented SOB she used to write for is in whatever passes for hell to a Republican.
I needed that even if you didn't.
Andy K @ 5:
With my engineering background, I think triangulation is when you plot vectors from two distant points and arrive at a third point where they intersect.
Maybe she thinks she's a friggin' cartographer or something.
Noonan is quick to criticize Edwards about his supposed obsession with his hair but yet mysteriously makes no reference at all to Mitt Romney's Brylcreem head of hair. Perhaps the shine from Romney's hair interfered with Ms. Noonan's ability to think critically and in an objective way.
other English slang...
ajax nearby (from adjacent?)
basket the bulge of male genitals through clothes
batts shoes
bijou small
bod body
bold daring
bona good
butch masculine; masculine lesbian
camp effeminate (origin: KAMP = Known As Male Prostitute)
capello hat
carts/cartso penis
carsey toilet, also spelt khazi
chicken young boy
charper search
charpering omi policeman
cod naff, vile
cottage public loo (particularly with reference to cottaging)
cottaging having or looking for sex in a cottage
crimper hairdresser
dish an attractive male; buttocks
dizzy scatterbrained
dolly pretty, nice, pleasant
drag clothes, esp. women's clothes
ecaf face (backslang)
eek face (abbreviation of ecaf)
ends hair
esong nose
fantabulosa wonderful
feele child
fruit queen
gelt money
glossies magazines
handbag money
hoofer dancer
jarry food, also mangarie
kaffies trousers
khazi toilet, also spelt carsey
lallies legs
latty room, house or flat
lills hands
lilly police (Lilly Law)
luppers fingers
mangarie food, also jarry
measures money
meese plain, ugly (from Yiddish)
meshigener nutty, crazy, mental
metzas money
mince walk (affectedly)
naff bad, drab (from Not Available For Fucking)
nanti not, no
national handbag dole
nishta nothing, no
oglefakes glasses
ogles eyes
omi man
omi-polone effeminate man, or homosexual
onk nose
orbs eyes
palare pipe telephone
palliass back (as in cpart of body)
park give
plate feet; to fellate
polari chat, talk
polone woman
pots teeth
riah/riha hair
riah shusher hairdresser
scarper to run off (from Italian scappare, to escape)
scotch leg
sharpy policeman
shush steal (from client)
shush bag holdall
shyker/shyckle wig
slap makeup
strillers piano
thews = thighs
trade sex
troll to walk about (esp. looking for trade)
vada/varda see
willets breasts
"We’d like knowledge, judgment, a prudent understanding of the world and of the ways and histories of the men and women in it.” pnoonan
What's this 'we' stuff? Does she have worms? Perhaps Ms Noonan should apply this criterea to the present president, resident. The one she adores. And in so doing, perhaps she will laugh herself silly at the revelation."
Ahem!
"George Bush is a compassionate conservative. He sees the needs other, older conservatives did not always see, or did not always think they must or could address. But he applies conservative solutions to these needs: more freedom, more choice, the inclusion in the public sphere of faith-based approaches. All the money in the world, he knows, cannot and will not turn around a troubled child’s heart. But God can, and his workers are eager. Bush does not fear faith as an opposing power center to the state. He likes it as an opposing power center to the state. After all, faith freed Poland; perhaps it can free a tough 16-year-old in inner-city Detroit too.
Bush is sunny, ingenuous; he assumes good faith. His assumption of good feeling has a way of spreading it. That has been his history, in Texas, and in baseball, and in business. Gore, on the other hand,.."
http://www.peggynoonan.com/article.php?article=289
We are adults Peg. And we see what adults see. You, on the other hand... What is it you see?
hareli @ 27:
Greenwald addresses this in comments.
http://tinyurl.com/243adt
If you're going to argue with GG, you'd better have cites.
Yes, we need another guy who has a profound appreciation for fart jokes.
cheers
commercial:
stage left: edwards does hair for 2 minutes.
stage right: bush stares into space for 7 minutes while reading about a goat when told 'we are under attack'.
voice over: noonan says 'Also we can’t have a president who spent two minutes on YouTube staring in a mirror and poofing his hair'
shut up about the hair already.
If Noonan doesn't like Edwards, then the republicans are afraid of him.
That seals the deal for me, Edwards is the man. He's the only current Dem I wouldn't have to hold my nose to vote for anyway.
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Anyone that doesn't realize there's a class war going on in this country, is probably already dying from methane poisoning.
Accordingly, they should be buried with their heads left stuck up their asses.
Will someone ask this stupid bitch, why the hell would she be supporting republicans if this is her criteria?
patrick @ 35:
You left out bint (a non complimentary term for a woman, from Arabic), slag (slut), slapper (overly made up woman), slap (make up), lippie (lipstick) shufti (Look around, Arabic) , rekkie (look around; Reconnoiter) Butcher's (Have a look, from rhyming slang-butcher's hook)
I have never heard carts/cartso or willets, but bristols (Bristol cities=titties) I don't know where you got most of yours. I am very unfamiliar with most of them...
But 'poof' and 'poofter' are slang in England for gay men and 'poofing about' is a term I've heard to describe guys acting effeminate...maybe she was thinking about Rudy when she was writing about Edwards's hair-I mean if you just have a shufti at the Ghoul when he's been at the slap and over done the lippie, he looks like a right slag, not to mention mutton dressed as lamb (He's dressing too young). It's Rudy the Slapper who comes off as a big girl's blouse...
BTW Peggy, There's a lot of waiting going on during the filming of shit. It's quite possible Edwards was doing the hair thing while waiting on someone else. I guess she never saw all the time 'Creepy' Paul 'Holey Socks' Wolfowitz spent spitting on his comb in Fahrenheit 911.
Sorry for the stream of consciousness post. I got two dogs staring at me and one of them is farting. BAD. My mind was elsewhere.
Please lady...ANY Dem over ANY Republican.
God forbid we have a president that plays with his hair. After all, we have had a president that sat on his behind paralyzed while the country was being invaded. Or perhaps that same president that looked out the window while he was flown over New Orleans, after Katrina. Or perhaps Noonan is more fond of the president that stood on the floor of the House of Representatives and lied about us being attacked by (some fantasy) nuclear weapons while the world watched. But my favorite is the president that had his administration call everyone with a different opinion a traitor, an appeaser, and other savory labels, then "outed" a CIA agent because her husband disagreed with his false assertions about nukes in Iraq. Bush has the deaths of thousands on his hands and Edwards groomed himself before appearing on camera. Weigh the sin here. Even a mf idiot can see who the president should not have been.
I would rather have a president that stared into a mirror for two minutes than a president that stared into space for nine minutes after we were attacked!
How do these pundits ever get their stupid analygy broadcast?
What hypocrisy!
Noonan's critique is dastardly, considering that she did not revel that she has her pubic hair professionally 'Poofed' each week, and back-combs her hirsute ass.
Who cares about hair?! I just hope that my new white male president owns camouflaged rifles and that he has the ability to pray any problem away.
Yeeehaw.
Go Rupert Murdoch's WSJ. I guess holding that giant fundraiser for Hillary wasn't enough for him.
Yes, Noonan, thank the God that no other candidates have hair, or the need to prepare that hair, right? What a tool. As a man with unruly hair (that will surely be gone soon enough) I spit in your general direction. Sure maybe you've never had to deal with this or this, but damn you for mocking the rest of us follicley-challenged people. Funny none of you media jackasses hounded this coke whore playing with his hair, unfortunately, as noted above.
I think Edwards is the best candidate for the job, period. I couldn't care less if he's ugly or boring. Get a life, people. I'm sure Peggy will write in "David Hasselhoff" as Mimbo-in-Chief with perfect hair, but the rest of us can use our brains.
But I wonder if "poofter" is exactly equal to homosexual. I'd say a "poof" in that sense (and not the sense of a fart or fluffing hair) equates to "foppish" or "effeminate" -- a dandy. But then I'm not a subject of the Queen either so I guess I'm wrong. And I don't even think she is smart enough to drag it to the same connotation as Ann Coulters "faggot" statement, she was just looking for something more nefarious than comb, because ultimately clogging the WSJ with endless vomit about a man simply "combing" his hair before being on camera actually sounds as fucking insane as it really is.
Anyway here's the only "citation" I can find. Wonder if it's authenticity will suffice for Glen... :P :
Monty Python, of course.
Just think for a minute. We have a political pundit knocking John Edwards because he is "poofing" his hair too much. That is really funny because she was a speech writer for a republican president who was famous or infamous for the style of his hairdo. Countless cartoons and photos made fun of his hair style before, during and after his presidency. Get a life Peggy!!!
Let me get this right, she's criticizing Edwards for his "Populism"?
Since when is being "of the People, by the People and for the People" a bad thing in America?
This country has suffered for so long under the party of the country club. It's high time we had a candidate that was a populist and not a corporate puppet only caring about the "Haves and Have Mores".
We’d like knowledge, judgment, a prudent understanding of the world and of the ways and histories of the men and women in it.”
Well, that eliminates Reagan and Both George Bushs. Wanna take a crack at explaining that one, Nooners?
conservatives are intimidated by edwards
crshedd @ 39:
You said it all. repubs lack substance and they avoid the truth.
Like you, I'm tired of them squealing about Edwards' good hair. Also Edwards looks and sounds better than any of the yesteryear jokes on the repug side.
Every last one of the repug presidential candidates look and sound like who did what. Dumbasses.
Blue Buddha @ 33:
I mean when used metaphorically to describe a Clinton. Or, I guess, a lot of other politicians.
Jtraynor @ 2:
Spread your legs and/or swallow. (Oh, I thought you asked WHAT are industry standards, on second glance, but as I've typed it out already.... )
Lollimom @ 6:
You can say that again.
Furthermore, Edward's populism is exactly what this country needs in order to put the fascist pigs like Noonan back under their rocks. That's why they are so afraid of him. Hillary or Obama would have a good shot against the repukes, but Edwards would blow their shit out of the water in a general election, and this bitch knows it!
And after the middle-class is finally declared DOA next year (thanks to all the greed-head bastards in the GOP from Reagan to GW Idiot-boy); there's gonna be a whole-lotta that populism goin on this U.S. of A! Put that in your pipe and smoke it Noons! Edwards means New Deal II, and you are scared shitless.
The american public may have flirted with republicanism for a few years, but they sure didn't like what they got anymore than the folks did 80 years ago. Basically, Robber Baron's II - the sequel.
And your tax scam days of bullshit are over too Ms. Noonan. Bring back them 94% marginal rates, and make them retroactive to 1981! That would be worse than the guilliotine for thieving greedy pricks like Bush, Cheney and Noonan.
The perfect storm of GOP bullshit come-uppance is on the way. Here's to another 60 year cycle of republican pricks looking at a 29% minority status.
All week I've been encountering people who insist there's absolutely nothing homophobic about saying things like "newfag",
"that's so faggy", and "that's so gay". They dismiss any argument to the contrary, and try to turn the tables by accusing me of oversensitivity, political correctness, or rabid activism.
.......I wonder which of these cheap tactics Ms. Noonan will use.
the wingnut welfare rolls need to be cut. These mouth-breathers get job after job
Could someone please answer this question?
Exactly what should President Bush have done when he was first informed of the attack?
In your answer, please consider the Principles of Leadership and Sir Francis Drake's action upon being told that the Spanish Armada had been sighted.
Snuffy the Banjo Player @ 37:
Sorry, but he's still wrong. The meaning of words is generally defined by how people use them, not by dictionaries; they usually turn up in dictionaries well after they've become established, and slang or regional terms often never do. This also relates to why you can have people who fully support gay rights and gay marriage using terms like "that's so gay" - it may still be offensive to someone who is gay, but it's not intended that way by the speaker. That's how languages change. Also, it's pretty sad if Greenwald can't come up with better dictionary citations than the two websites listed.
FWIW, in America I've heard "poofing" almost exclusively referring to making big hair, and almost never to mean "gay". Also, in regard to comment 56, "faggy" and "gay" are not the same thing. "Gay" simply means homosexual, while "faggy" means effeminate. I've met gay men who are not faggy and straight men who are. I don't care about someone's sexuality, but I find faggy guys pretty annoying.
From John Gibson's (Fox News) Friday, December 28th "Winners & Losers" segment:
"John Edwards: John Edwards is a loser, but you knew that. This time it's for an ad he's running in which he sounds like such a trial lawyer. Putting out a closing argument from a lawsuit against a rich corporation as a political ad is dumb, dumb, dumb."
Oh, and I love this one, where he is saying on the Mr. Guiliani and the Republicans can protect the U.S.: "Al Qaeda: Al Qaeda is a loser. Killing Bhutto right before the American primaries means America is once again roused from its domestic slumber and confronted with the reality that they still want to kill us and we should pick a president who will kill them."
And I really love this one, "Nicolas Sarkozy: French president Nicholas Sarkozy is a winner. Young and handsome, freshly divorced, and with a hot new model girlfriend. Everybody knows if you've got a supermodel girlfriend you must be a brilliant statesman and politician." I guess getting that blow job in the Oval Office wasn't so bad, eh John?
She was soooo close. Almost sounded reasonable herself, but couldn't keep the mask on for very long after all. It must have been sufficating her ego.
John Edwards scares the neocons to death with his populist message. He has the same message today that FDR had for millions of Americans in the last Great Depression. Noonan and the rest of the neocons see just like the rest of us, the economic collapse that is coming thanks to the neocons policies of the last 7 years, and the one candidate that terrifies them is the man who is telling the people that they matter, that we don't have to put up with CEO's taking hundreds of millions home in bonuses when they have ruined their businesses and are firing thousands of workers who had nothing to do with the bad decisions that have led to what will be the next Great Depression. John Edwards will bring America back to the people like FDR did, and that has Noonan and the rest of the neocons peeing their pants.
I particularly enjoy the TV ads that Edwards is running here in New Hampshire:
"Do you think the drug and oil companies will willingly give up their power? We have to take it from them!"
Karl Marx would be proud.
(No mention of how Edwards would feel about the poor taking his mansions and sizable assets...)
Wealthy Republicans, such as Noonan, always focus on the greater good for themselves and that always comes down to lowering their taxes. National security doesn't even come close to that. Helping the impoverished, the sick, the elderly and the young aren't even listed among their priorities.
Erm... I hate to say it, cos I usually enjoy this site, but talking from an independent perspective (I'm English with no idea who these columnists are) this is about as lame an attack as I've ever seen. In 'English' English poofing doesn't mean a homosexual. A 'poof' is a homosexual, yes, but it is also a type of foot cushion, and probably some other things knowing the English. Unrelatedly, 'poofing' means 'plumping up', like you would a pillow. Nothing offensive there at all. You could say it to the Vicar.
Beware of trying too hard to paint a picture of the bad guys being bad, cos you'll end up not being taken seriously at all. And no, I'm not a shill.
To paraphrase my grampa: Iffen the GOP is agin 'im, ah'm fer 'im.
Or, as the Arabs say, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." While that isn't necessarily true, in this case it is.
If "kinder, gentler" Noonan thinks Edwards is unreasonable, he must have my best interests in mind, and not those of the malefactors of great wealth that she shills for.
So John Edwards spends a little time in front of the mirror. If that is the worst thing that Mr. Edwards ever does he will be 10,000% better president than Chicken George.
By the way has 'Nooner' ever written a word about how many vacation days the current alcoholic squatter in the oval office has taken?
'Longwalker
Could someone please answer this question?
Exactly what should President Bush have done when he was first informed of the attack?
In your answer, please consider the Principles of Leadership and Sir Francis Drake’s action upon being told that the Spanish Armada had been sighted.'
I don't know - put down the goat book, politely tell the kids he has business to do and then inform the american people that the government is taking appropriate action? .... and maybe putting the proper number of troops into Afghanistan, securing the border with Pakistan and stabilizing and rebuilding that country rather than attacking a country that posed no real threat and causing a civil war killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions. And maybe when natural disasters such as Katrina happen have competent people in place rather than frat boys and have the guard ready instead of halfway around the world. Consider Sir Francis Drake's leadership? He was a mercenary pirate who frequently chose his own interest vs. that of the British Navy - maybe a very apt comparison to Bush.
Could someone please answer this question?
Exactly what should President Bush have done when he was first informed of the attack?
In your answer, please consider the Principles of Leadership and Sir Francis Drake’s action upon being told that the Spanish Armada had been sighted.<<<<<<<
I couldn't care less about Sir Francis Drake's action upon being told that the Spanish Armada had been sighted ( i doubt he was reading stories to kiddies at the time) but I know what bush should have done after Andrew card whispered in his ear that our country was under attack. He should have stood up, told the kindergardeners that he was sorry but that his job as president was calling and he would be back another time to read a story. Then he should have briskly walked out of the room and taken command of the situation. There were still 3 planes in the air while he sat there gobsmacked and quivering waitign for dick to tell him what to do.
"Poofing" is too a word, as in the Repub party is going "poof", or the chances of the Repub candidates ever becoming President is going "poof". The Repubs are "poofing".
nooner is just another republican whore that puts party before country!
Noonan:
Conservatives selected Edwards as a hate idol somewhere along the way. Im not sure when but Hannity, Dennis Miller, Michael Savage, Coulter and Oreichly hate the guy with passion. I never hear any clear answers as to why but hey, that's not the point anyway.
It's that passionate sort of Hillary-hate that I never fully understand.
Yer all poofs.
Snuffy the Banjo Player wrote:
[quote]"Also, in regard to comment 56, “faggy” and “gay” are not the same thing. “Gay” simply means homosexual, while “faggy” means effeminate. I’ve met gay men who are not faggy and straight men who are. I don’t care about someone’s sexuality, but I find faggy guys pretty annoying."[quote]
So when I see a group of black men acting badly in public, I can justifiably say "I wish they wouldn't act so niggery?" What if I see a Jewish man pick up a quarter from the street? Do you think "kikey" would be a socially acceptable? Even if I were using these words to describe non-blacks and non-jews, it still doesn't change the fact that I am using hate terms and stereotypes.
I just don't understand why people do debating gymnastics to justify using offensive words and expressions. Why is it so damn important for you to be able to "innocently" use the word FAG? I don't give a %$@% what it means in Britain! I don't care if the person who says it was "only" using it to attack someone's effeminacy by using a gay stereotype. Why can't you just stop saying it?
And as for "poofing", I find it interesting that there are many different ways Noonan could've composed that sentence, but chose to go with the one that most tactically associates John Edwards with homosexuality. She didn't say "brushing, combing, fixing, fussing over, primping, grooming, or preening". She was crafty (all repugs are) enough to give herself some wiggle room, but she knew damn well how her words would be interpreted. I refuse to subscribe to all the "that depends on what the definition of 'poof' is" crap swirling around here.
Fortunately for Noonan, there are 50 million idiots who will nod their heads in agreement with her warped definition of "reasonableness". They may not like Bush anymore, but they are still moronic twits who will follow pseudo journalists like Noonan to the trough of anti anything Democrat. Hair, gender, skin color, wardrobe. THESE are the true issues of the day for the RW murkins.
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Here ya go, Peggy...Bush Primping.
(Was that so hard?)
Bill Grant @ 77:
Hey you managed to sneak in a "not his effeminate streak" snark. Two points for reinforcing the meme.
Noonan believes Edwards's “populism”, is the worst of both worlds, both intemperate and insincere. Where are these worlds, within her head? While I agree he's popular, what makes him unreasonable, intemperate or insincere? Republican party propaganda, that if repeated enough times, people might buy into. And since he was recorded in front of a mirror, we simply can't have him as president...really, watch one of Bush's clips.
bubba @ 73:
It's simple, really. These people have made millions off of hate and distortion. Why bite the hand that feeds you? Why, that would wreck your cash flow---and anger the god they pray to, the god of hubris and excessive consumption. Make no mistake, these malignant mutations of humanity are seriously corrupt and perverted.
Log Cabin @ 63:
I think Edwards has enough common sense to realize that if something isn't done NOW to restore a semblance of a representative democracy, that is a real possibility. Heads of the wealthy have rolled in the past, as surely as they will in the future... best not to let things get that bad. Cheney and the rest are smart enough to know that, but they choose to build military complexes and hide-outs in Dubai instead of giving at least SOME power back to the people. Not to mention that statement is TRUE. Oil companies continue to get big fat subsidies from taxpayers when they break new record profits EVERY YEAR, and the government is FAR too broke to afford it anyway! That's as anti-social as it gets. They won't change willingly, obviously.
Besides as has been printed ad nauseam, the house is his wife's. If you've been married, you might understand! That's the way it goes... He wanted nothing to do with it, as they've both answered a million times. And honestly, if your wife was dying, would you say no even to a house you thought silly (if you could afford it)? Personally, I don't hate anyone for getting wealthy legally, just for failing to give back. Edwards is offering to give back.
What I think this is really about is pitifully simple. Edwards polls by far the best against ANY Republican candidate. And as the success of Reagan and Romney can attest, Republicans will actually vote based on only appearances. Add to that the fact that the other Dem candidates don't appeal to the sizable bigoted community in the Repubs, and Edwards is a huge danger on appearances alone.
Well, that and at SOME point the NRA rednecks on the right might get a damn brain and stop voting for fascist jerks that despise them and ever libertarian idea they stand for. Bu I think that is still a while off -- I double-dog-dare them to surprise me this election!!
Peggy Noonan being paid to write is proof that Repubs believe in taking care of the otherwise unemployable...if you're a wingnut come up through the proper social circles, anyway.
"Also we can’t have a president who spent two minutes on YouTube staring in a mirror and poofing his hair. Really, we just can’t."
The horror! Having a president who flips off anyone who happens to be viewing footage of him on Youtube is acceptable, but primping one's hair is blasphemous you disingenuous c&nt!
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 17:
Wouldn't Cheney be that corpses equivalent for Noonan ?
hareli @ 27:
I know this is an old topic, but you're absolutely right here. I'm English, and while "poof" is most certainly popular slang for effeminate and homosexual men, nobody has ever used "poofing" in that same context. It clearly describes the motion of lifting something up to give it shape, as one might do with their hair, especially if they were a preening poof like Edwards. The rest of the article is perfectly decent in my eyes, it's only that pointless little mistake at the bottom which makes the author seem petty and childish.
Also, while potentially offensive, "poof" is far from synonymous with "faggot". Jesus christ people, check yourselves before you wreck yourselves.
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