January 02, 2008 09:23 PM
BREAKING: MSNBC, CNN and FOXNews Project Huckabee, Obama the Winners In Iowa
After a scan of all the news networks, with 25% of precincts reporting, MSNBC, CNN and FOXNews are projecting Mike Huckabee the winner of the Republican Iowa caucus. MSNBC is reporting that just 8% of Huckabee voters say they voted for him because he's likely to win. Poor Rudy, he didn't even get an "also appeared." Mitt Romney is the big loser here, he spent mountains of money and time in Iowa. (h/t billw)
UPDATE: Obama is the projected winner in Iowa!
UPDATE: Mike Allen of the Politico just said on FOX that Thompson is dead broke and a loser and John McCain is a BIG, BIG WINNER! The Villagers need their hero.
Obama wins Iowa.
My vote would go for Huckabee over Hilary on any November in 2008...
Hurts to say that.
a bit early isn't it......I just heard Tweety call Obama the winner..........I have no idea how he found that conclusion...Hyperbole
At least Frist didn't
And Drop Dead Fred was third...
Amazing.
DEWEY WINS!
Chris Matthews is an irritating and clueless moron.
I wish Olberman would reach over and slap this guy.
I hope they didn't steal Iowa votes. Russert is blabbering for Huckabee and Fox.
The Talibangelicals won tonight! Blood-curdling & terrifying!!
No. 9, it is too early to say. Dean had similar fate of winning and losing. Just hold your breath. Obama shines in Iowa but not the U.S.A.
Brought to you by the republicans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wISP8-TVw
Todays winners: Huckabee and Obama.
"Hillary is unbeatable" my ass!
One step closer to getting our clocks cleaned in November.
the fix is in
Please don't let Gomer Flatearthabee win.
Huck will be good for the Clique.
Can you imagine and intelligent and articulate President trying to sell the Iraq invasion back in 03?
My spouse, who has always been a Republican, although he has registered Independent for the last several elections, just told me that as long as the Republicans continue to sidle up to the religious right, he will not ever, ever, ever vote for a Republican or register to vote in a Republican primary again.
I just want to know how Thompson got those numbers.
Is Huckabee going to keep his promise of drafting Stephen Colbert as his running mate if he wins?
OBAMA WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
young people got out for Obama and took a big lead
Edwards will take 2nd
The bitch is third!
On to NH - where Obama will win again
Dear Hillary,
You are done! Give it up - divorce that scum husband of yours - leave the senate - and never show your face on my TV again.
Convicted rapists in Iowa now have a glimmer of hope.
He'd abolish the IRS, the corporate dorks will never let him get elected.
Hillary better get out the shotgun and fire over some reporters heads if she wants to take any Red States.
budda @ 20:
Classy, very classy.
http://www.slate.com/id/2181008/
All the manufactured media hoopla irritates me. It's a joke.
I think it is outstanding Huckabee won... McCain gets too much credit for his "straight talk" and Huckabee is just straight up crazy. I'd rather go up against him anyday. Everyday.
I completely discount Romney, although I probably shouldn't. I have entirely too much faith in America, I guess.
Otay @ 15:
He's winning on Sgt. Carter's coattails
Obama wins in Iowa? horsefeathers...
Sur-PRIZE, Sur-PRIZE, Sur-PRIZE!! Gomer Pyle's evil twin wins Iowa.
I just lost a sh*tload of respect for Iowa. If that's what's supposed to represent mainstream America, so stupid they can't even look at Huckabee's record, then all is truly lost. I bet 99 percent of them never heard of Wayne DuMond and Huckabee's interference with his case before the parole board.
'scuse me, where's my barf bag.
Observation: As of this writing Edwards is slightly ahead of Hillary. She outspent him by a magnitude of 5 or 6 to get there.
Also, Edwards will likely have to drop if he doesn't win New Hampshire....I don't think his supporters will go to Hillary.
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EZ @ 8:
WHAT? Please explain.
Allah U Akbar!!!
glad i don't live in iowa....selecting a nut(r) and a newbie(d).
do they get the news in iowa or are they incubated by all the surrounding states.
both of these selections are extremely light weight.
Ruthless People @ 13:
Hello Giuliani
budda @ 20:
You should at least learn how to spell. "buddha" Edwards 30% Clinton 30% ? done?
good Hillary third place!....maybe there is a god.
Third place for the Hillary World Order? Thank Christ. Go-bama. Hillary supporters may point out that it's more or less a tie with Edwards. Edwards supporters may boast that he's more or less tied with Hillary, who's on the "less" end of that.
Ruthless People @ 1:
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
- H. L. Mencken
oh wow...25% of votes of a caucus from a li'l state like iowa and it's all done? cool. let's all go home now.
Kay @ 18:
Beats me, its those lazy as voters that fell for the fake ass "good ol' boy act. The type of voters that know nothing about politics and I can't find the US on a map but surely love the NASCAR grandpa father figure.
Y'know, I don't really care for Hillary Clinton, but I wish people would quit calling her a B*tch. It is just disrespectful and dehumanizing and derogatory... and it marginalizes women just as much as the "n" word marginalizes people of color.
Please stop.
Kay @ 18:
Giuliani and Paul were behind him. And Iowans who didn't like Huckleberry and Mitt could bring themselves to vote for Guiliani and Ron Paul.
this is a victory for genuine change, for progressive policy at its best and most authentic
the corporate media is shaking in their boots.....
way to go iowa,
put in a good VP, and he'll get 60% popular vote in the general
It seems like the C+L server is working overtime and heating up. Are you doing your part?
OMG! Howard Dean was just on MSNBC, and he looked EXACTLY like Lee Harvey Oswald. Swear. It was so weird.
ashton @ 24:
Yes, exactly. This whole thread is lacking in any sort of class or intelligent political discussion.
Let's cut out the insults and speak like adults, OK?
Straight Shooter @ 29:
The only "bodies" (substantial numbers) on the right are the religious freaks.....what has previously allowed the GOP to win is winking at the fundies and then serving the interests of their actual constituents, the robber barons.......this shows that the fundies have had enough of it and they are putting up their own guy....who is unelectable.
Without the fundies numbers, the right wing is radically undermuscled in the voting booth........Robber barons are probably less than a tenth of the population, mouth breathing ditto head neocon types....maybe 30 Million as a guess, Rontards.....hard to say...maybe 3 million......
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FWIW, a quote from The History Channel
Observation: 2/3rds of people have voted "Not Hillary"
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lopaloo102 @ 43:
Regardless of who wins the nomination, we still have to make sure all the votes are counted and all that are elgible get to vote.
C&L, why am I having to keep filling out required fields 3 times a night?
Huckabee wins Iowa, but Rudy is the real winner! He got what he wanted - Romney lost!
BTW, 1 caucus does not a presidential race make!
It'll be an epic election, if Obama wins New Hampshire he's our choice for 44th president of the United States.
Caucus ... one of the few non latin verbs we have. The idea that an America party would use the caucus to select their representatives I'm sure does Benjamin proud. While the republicans are counting ballots like $$$ enlightened, thinking, LIBERAL democrats are discussing the most divisive issues of the time. At least this footage can be used to remind future generations of how Democracies USED to behave.
LibertyLover @ 41:
I'm also not a Hillary supporter, but you people are out of your fucking minds if you don't think she would be 1000X better than any of the current thugs running on the other side, and a MILLION times better than what we have now.
Although nowdays a product of the establishment, she is at least SANE, rational, logical, educated.........
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I'm kinda glad Bush lite (aka Hillary) lost tonight. I have yet to hear her say she was wrong for voting for the war. America showed they wanted real change and went with Obama.
Defeating the Huckster should be easy for Dems this year. He seems more clueless than Bush in some areas.
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
Suck it Romney, you f*cking loser!!!
http://pabulumadnauseam.blogspot.com/
budda @ 20:
I think you should save that talk for someone who really deserves it like Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin. Hillary isn't my first choice but I wouldn't go that far.
I agree about calling Hillary a bitch. Enough. Please. I'm echoing the sentiment, respectfully.
She's not my favorite candidate either, but the incessant name-calling is getting ridiculous.
Surely we can be keep to a higher standard than the repubs.
The Caucuses are a mountain range in Russia, aren't they?
debaser71 @ 25:
Could we not have cynicism for at least ONE minute? You "progressives" drive me nuts. I'm a socialist, but I also know that it DOES matter who wins between our two little factions, to NORMAL working class people. I could give many examples. That Slate article was ridiculous. I don't think anyone in Iowa is voting for one side or the other because they were offered the scandalous BABY-SITTING payoff! Jesus H. Christ, people!
At least this is better than the damn mainstream media using polls to decide. Finally actual people got to choose.
Get over yourselves!
Vitam Vas @ 49:
Observation...people who live in the same state as those 2/3rds, also voted for MIKE HUCKABEE.
Observation, Barack Obama's voting record is identical to Hillary Clinton's aside from 4 minor votes:
http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463
Pull two IE pages up, and select Obama, and Hillary...compare them side by side.
Sooo, if people like Obama's voting record, they like Hil's voting record.
Vitam Vas @ 54:
VV
That's not good enough ... the mess this group of mercenary thugs have left us in leaves us no room for just rational, logical, and educated. Sadly, GW's only gift is that he's leaving a legacy so effed up our only hope is a leader that UNITES.
An Excellent Read
Johann Hari: The American Right Is Dazed and Confused
more at link
Does anyone know the percentage of Republicans and Democrats participating in the Iowa caucuses? Huckabee told people if they weren't going to vote for him, they shouldn't go vote at all. IOW, did the Republican party disarray and idiotic candidates keep Republicans home? Were those who voted for Huckabee all religious fundamentalists?
It's interesting that not everyone who participates in caucuses is registered to even vote!
rc48 @ 33:
newbie??
we have had a prez for the past 7 years who was a 2 time gov of texas....for all the good that did him
obama would surround himself with people with experience, and unlike the chimp, listen to them
lopaloo102 @ 43:
Now that's funny.
The "corporate media" is licking its lips.
Corporate America is rejoicing tonight.
Congatulations to Senator Obama........not my first choice.But I can live with this news.This is far from over.But if Sen Obama does get the nod....he will get my complete support......meanwhile..I'm still pulling for Edwards.....this election cycle will be like none ever seen before. For me...this is a win, win.
sassafra @ 39:
screw iowa , diebold has the last selection,to bad the repigs own it!
I think the real story here that all of the MSM seem to be missing is that of the big shaded gray area in that GOP pie chart. Last I saw, the bottom 4 candidates in the GOP race make up almost 50% of the total vote, whereas the bottom 4 Dem candidates make up only 3% or less. That statistic combined with the overwhelmingly large turnout lead me to believe that not only does the eventual GOP nominee has a slim chance of uniting and turning out the conservative base within their own party, and an even slimmer chance of winning the presidency. Great news for Democrats, and great news for the American people (and quite possibly the rest of the world).
Thompson finished ahead of Paul. Thompson, of all people.
Edwards was THRID amongst union members? What the hell is wrong with those people? It's like they just can't stop themselves from voting against their own interests.
bong hits for Obama tonight
for sure!
Vitam Vas @ 49:
Basically, 2/3rds of the people have voted against all of the top three.
anney @ 64:
NPR is reporting that turnout was low on the GOP side. Haven't caught what Democratic turnout was like, though.
Weird. Look at the number of votes for the Democratic Party Results
and then do the same for the Republican Party Results
Obama Votes 865
Huckab Votes 30,852
How the hell does FT beat McCain? That tells you how relevant McCain is. A guy who doesn't even try and snorts the sauce every other half hour gets enough of the pie to come in third. McCain could totally rebound in NH, but man is coming in fourth behind FT a slap in the face. All of FT's voters must be the people who fall asleep on their couch at 9 PM, and happen to wake up for LAO reruns at 11.
But who cares. Congrats to Obama. Now the real race begins.
Please let me enjoy this moment ... I am an Edwards supporter but I am still happy tonight ... because I remember being a child in the fifties and sixties and watching blacks being beaten and savaged just because they wanted to go to school or eat at the lunch counter or ride in the front seat of the bus...
So seeing a black man win in Iowa, a state that has few minorities, ...this makes me believe again that change and positive change is possible ....
and to hear that huge numbers of young people turned out ...that makes me happy ...
now if John Edwards just holds on for second I will be really happy...
BTW, it sounds like the truly thinking republicans went and caucused with the Dems tonight ....how do you think Hillary is finishing third? ;-)
@75:
The Repug system is different than the Dem system. Any chance the Dem votes are equivalent to a certain amount of R votes? I have no idea myself, I just know they organize the whole event almost completely differently.
Ruthless People @ 57:
Troll much buddah? All of the libertarian rats trying to look like winners by abandoning the republican ship and looking into the 'democrats' is quite fashionable these days. Sick of being stuck between the theocrats and the fascists eh? You're going to find none of your nerglinging 'I need someone to hate' brethren here. Why don't you go see how the Aqua Velva man's doing?
BigTallMatt @ 69:
Please excuse my horrible grammar in that second to last sentence, I guess I'm too excited to proof-read (quoted version is fixed)!
Ron @ 50
I couldn't agree more. Let's start the movement to electoral reform in this country. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/
That's my contribution so far. I don't know of any other or better groups doing what needs to be done to ensure Diebold and others aren't in sole control of our voting process.
Johnny2Bad @ 66:
Here's the last graf from the Harpers article linked above:
"On condition of anonymity, one Washington lobbyist I spoke with was willing to point out the obvious: that big donors would not be helping out Obama if they didn’t see him as a “player.” The lobbyist added: “What’s the dollar value of a starry-eyed idealist?”
God Help Us.
L.A. Confidential @ 75:
Are we to believe that the top Democrats can't even get an even thousand votes, while the Republicans have no problems getting TENS of thousands of voters to show up and cast their vote?
Andy K @ 74:
Stunningly large turnout for the democrats. projection of near 250000 more than double the GOP more than 2.5 larger than any previous caucus.
L.A. Confidential @ 75:
You're comparing apples and oranges. The Democratic numbers are for the delegates to the state conventions (a proportional representation of the total vote), whereas the GOP numbers are the total number of actual votes cast.
BigTallMatt @ 69:
From HuffPo: With 67% reporting, Huckabee: 35% Romney: 24% Thompson: 14% McCain: 13%
With 94% reporting, Obama: 37% / Edwards: 30% / Clinton: 29.5%
and this: More than 212,000 Dems turn out... About 90,000 GOPers....
Much more recent numbers than that screen shot.
Huckabee wins? Cool, any debates against this guy should be a smackdown. But then again Bush got smacked down in debates too...hrrmm.
LA -
The republican vote is a straw poll, I believe. Each vote counts, as opposed to the democrat caucus.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 65:
Obama can think rationally. The loser we have now is... well, incompetent. I would like to say he is a fucking dumbass retard but I don’t think you can say that here.
Tekras @ 79:
I've never heard of you but "RuthlessPeople" has been here...A lot.
So stuff your "Troll" and "Facsist" B.S. and grow up.
L.A. Confidential @ 75:
The Republicans and Democrats count them diferently.
My precinct (just North of Iowa City) went 5:3:2 Obama:Edwards:Clinton. The cheer that went up when it was said that we beat Clinton by 4 people to get the 10th delegate was incredible. It was lots of work, too. The Biden folks held out until the Chair said "choose or lose your vote." I managed to snag about four of them. Earlier I got all the Kucinich people, a couple of Dodd's, and maybe five of Richardson's, including a really tough one who made a lot of really good points. I was elected to be one of the three Edwards delegates at the county level. More when I calm down and put the kids to bed. But I have to say: the Obama folks were incredibly organized and had a ton of young people with them. Too bad their main argument was that he (a) isn't a white male and (b) isn't Hillary.
BigTallMatt @ 69:
Matt that's because Republicans do not no how to run a government. They go for the cult of persaonality daddy figure ... but in this race they have too many daddies to choose from ... The Preacherman??? The 911 guy??? Mr. Stepford??? Aqua Velva dude??? TOO MANY CHOICES?!?!?
I think tonight's c-span footage says it all. The republicans count those ballots like they were Vegas whores. The democratic delegates are discussing the most topical issues. This is beautiful.
No. 83,
I can't imagine Huckabee in the white house. I would rather prefer John McCain.
Can someone explain how the Iowa Caucus works? Is it by straw polls?
Anybody think Obama won the women vote due to some sort of Oprah effect?
I wonder if there's any truth to that ...
Andy K @ 74:
Timmeh on MSNBC just said that the vote count was something like 212,000 (@91% of the total )which would be a record. Basically, a lot of independents voted Democratic. If you are a Repub, bad, bad news for you.
I don't understand - everybody's acting like this was important, like American Idol or something. They didn't even sing!
Exit polls show the overwhelming issue for both parties? Change for direction of country. Ummm thats not good news for the goopers.
Edwards speech has been good so far and he would make a good VP pick for Obama. He will not win the nomination though and his support could really help Obama. I'm feeling he is so selfish not putting his support to Obama. I'm hoping the little guys like Biden will give their support to the candidate of change and hope - OBAMA.
I'm smoking some good weed with friends tonight -
hitting the bong for Obama!
Thank you Iowa. You saw through the the witch. You beat the establishment. You gave America a new hope for change. The bitch is done.
Johnny2Bad @ 90:
I think he was refering to budda as the fascists. Not RuthlessPeople.
Couldn't be happier with the results from both sides.
IF OBAMA WINS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION,I WILL VOTE FOR THE GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE.HE IS AS PHONY AS A TWO DOLLAR BILL.OBAMA SHOULD SAY HE IS SORRY TO AL GORE,SCREW THIS PIMP WALKING ROLO LOOKING SON OF A BITCH.
Tekras @ 93:
No argument here. This is certainly not news to me, but I do wonder why the MSM seem to be completely ignoring these statistics. If it were me, this would be the biggest story coming out of the caucuses: it doesn't matter who won the GOP in Iowa, because the Republican party LOST tonight in Iowa in a big way.
Middle America electing a black man, who's name ryhmes with Osama, who Karl Rove will be brought out of retirement to smear as being a Muslim, and who can't walk across a stage without strutting like Rolo from "Sanford and Son".
Yea, that's the winning ticket. Get those concession speaches ready boys and girls, the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot again.
JTM @ 92:
I want to say congrats to Obama but that last sentence is really a downer.
Well, I taunted 'em with it on the Paul thread, but if he ends up fifth, like I see he is now, and with only 9%...That's a poor showing. His supporters are swarmers...he should've fared much better, according to the Paulists' line.
Anyone else sense an independent run from the guy? Libertarian Party nomination again?
Johnny2Bad @ 90:
it would appear buddah has some issues with women...........hey......(ok I won't do it)........ain't gonna work hear buddah!.....
Vitam Vas @ 54:
If Ms. Clinton get the nomination, then you bet your boots that I'll be her staunchest supporter...
but until then, I'll stick with Edwards who is speaking for single moms, and for the 3 million union workers that have lost their jobs and watched them go overseas, and for the little guy... and for all of the people that can't afford health care, and for the parents of soldiers in Iraq and the soldiers in Iraq and the children of soldiers fighting in Iraq...
Marcus Aurelius @ 97:
The Bible whackers got their man tonight.
Hell's bells!
I was just checking out some interesting exit poll demographics over at MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225980
Clinton will probably try to point out in the next few days that Obama's win was largely due to (I)'s and (R)'s infiltrating the caucus. Granted, most (I)s and (R)s that did show up voted mostly for Obama, but if you look closely, people who consider themselves to be "very liberal" or "somewhat liberal" were more likely to vote for Obama than Clinton, and "conservative" voters seemed to gravitate towards Edwards. Interesting, no?
budda @ 99:
I'm not really getting why Edwards is "selfish" at this point. This is the first primary and he did really well and did it with a lot less money to spend on campaigning than Obama or Clinton had. Isn't it a little early to call for him to throw in the towel?
negativnein @ 14:
Comments like this make my head spin. For the sake of being glib, the commentator offers the antithesis of insight.
How could "the fix" be in? The Republican Party is scared shitless of Huckabee, because outside of the extremist religious nuts, Huckabee is viewed as a little too out there. That's right - Huckabee is so theocratic that the non-extremist Republican Party members want nothing to do with him.
Furthermore, Obama's victory reminds us that Hillary Clinton (my personal first choice candidate, for the record) can't simply choose to be President and have done with it. The process still has a shred of credibility, at least.
Andy K @ 106:
yeah...i can see that happenin............Lieberman as Vp....for Paul or maybe McCain...
the libertine @ 102:
Speaking of sorry, what a sorry comment. Take your meds next time.
Demoncrats got bigots too.
Yep, Obama clears a small hurdle in the actual race and the bigots rush to their keyboards. Excellent. I expected as much.
the libertine @ 102:
I see by your erudite comments, and the liberal use of all caps, that you're a thinking man...
Sheesh.
HUCKABEE IS A INBREAD CROSSEYED NUCKLEDRAGING CAVEMAN.
Andy K @ 106:
I can see it.
LibertyLover @ 41:
I completely agree. Take your sexist remarks over to a right-wing blog where it belongs.
Shawnmeat @ 112:
Huckabee is RABILY HATED among the other breeds of extremists.........I've seen where people pull up postings from the main wingnut sites of the little fascists saying things like "I will vote for Hillary (Satan to them) before I vote for Huckabee". And he is scaring the shit out of those who have been doing "the fix" for the last 30 or whatever years.
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Listening to Clinton's speech to the caucus goers right now, and she's adopted Obama's "Change" speech and Edwards work.
Ohhh, here goes the 35 year experience line again. She was a corporate lawyer for over 10 years in the Rose Law Firm. Does that constitute public service?
Vitam Vas @ 47:
I think that's the 33%ers that would stick with GW through hell or high water. That's all they have left. The neo-cons are hiding under their rock until everyone forgets about PNAC. The libertarians are trying to slink out and support Hilary and Ron Paul. And the greedy bastards just looking for a tax cut are all lining up behind Rudy *ahem*. The poor bastards don't know if they are coming or going!
Ruthless People @ 13:
Agreed.
Nominate a black man and 55% of the popular vote will go to the Republicans.
The last thing the country needs is a preacher who doubts evolution as president.
He is either retarded, playing possum for the hayseed bible thumper vote, or a dumbfuck.
Bluetooth @ 110:
Maybe the (I)s and (R)s in New Hampshire will vote for Obama as well. Hill is in big trouble.
bmw 528 @ 96:
Okay, from NPR, again: turnout for the Dems was 225k-230k, while GOP turnout was 108k. WOW! I love those numbers. Their side is not motivated this time out!
Also heard this from pollster Andy Kohut(sp?)- HRC only polled 23% amongst Democratic males. Maybe- maybe- she can turn it around in NH, but I'm not seein' it. Edwards, if he keeps it close to Obama in NH can give himself a fightin' chance in SC. I think Edwards can win the South in the primaries, but he'll need some money- and money will be his huuuuuge problem if he wins in the primaries, due to the fact that he took Federal funding so goddamned early.
But congrats to Obama! While I'm still puillin' for Edwards, I think Obama would be an acceptable candidate- and certainly more inspiring than Kerry!
Ronin Tetsuro @ 116:
I don't know who you are referring to but don't confuse bigotry with being realistic. Remember this is the same country who elected a dumb ass Texas hick who screwed up the country.....twice. If nominated I would vote for Obama over any Republican, any time, anywhere....(execpt MAYBE Bloomberg but he switched to Independent), I'm not bigot. I made my comment because I have lost faith in half the country to vote in their own best interest if the other side nominates another southern, white, male, so called "Christian".
L.A. Confidential @ 75:
Actually, you are comparing the amount of delegates pledged to Obama vs. the amount of votes cast for Huckabee. It is interesting however that the number of votes cast for the Democratic candidates is not listed. I would like to know that.
Ronin Tetsuro @ 116:
This is what worries me about both him and Clinton, both of whom I respect. One is black and the other is a woman, so in this very thread we here comments from individuals who can't help but point out that they've noticed said ethnicity/gender.
Obama is a 'pimp-like Rolo motherfucker Muslim,' and Clinton is 'an icy bitch.'
I worry not because assholes exist in this world (that's just a depressing fact of life), but because one or both of these individuals could find themselves assassinated before 2008 is out. We've already had Clinton's headquarters invaded by a dude with bombs strapped to himself, after all.
Timmy_D11 @ 124:
It's odd that you say that when Iowa is mostly white.
I caucused in Iowa tonight and in my district the Obama support was 3 to 1 over the other candidates, HRC was barely viable in the 1st round. The previous record for my precinct was 95 people. Tonight there were just shy of 400. I think I was most excited by the turnout.
the libertine @ 118:
Do you post somwhere else as ZODIAC MOTHERFUCKER?
I wish they would stop calling it when so few of the votes have come in. I really think it skews the outcome. I hate that early early prediction crap, anyway.
Man, some heavy duty white flight going on here tonight. Jeezus!
Over two hundred and twelve thousand voted Democrat and over 90 thousand voted Rep.
That does not bode well for Reps come Election time considering Iowa was on the books as Red state last election.
I think Obama got a mix vote of new dems, indpendents and young.
Edwards the progressives and Hillary the rank and file. IMO
budda @ 99:
Dude. What the hell is wrong with you? You've done that a dozen times and been asked to stop very nicely by several regulars here. Jesus, you even give potheads a bad name... give the "bitch" crap a rest.
I'm glad Hillary got crushed, however.
Ruthless People @ 128:
Thanks for making that clear. I, for one, was wondering.
Oh, and budda...please migrate over to the republican side...seriously.
I wouldn't call Obama a n*****r, so what the hell makes you think it's acceptable to call a sitting senator a b****h?
It's called respect.
Ruthless People @ 128:
Bloomberg was a Democrat until he lost the mayoral primary in NYC, at which time he joined the GOP, iirc.
hope @ 111:
Edwards was outspent by Hillary and Obama 6-1. Still he came in second in spite of not having Oprah at his side.
Huckleberry is talking. Keep it up dickhead.
Ruthless People @ 128:
I don't think he's/she's refering to you Ruthless.....I for one know better..........maybe he's refering to.......hell,i have know idea who he could be refering to.
I'm an Edwards supporter. he camped out in Iowa for 2 years. It paid off.
Bluetooth @ 110:
To understand the later, you've got to understand the Rove brain. The cockroaches believe since they'd beaten Jon Boy once they could do it again with a few dozen dirty tricks. Don't think the republicans have given up on th 'K street project'. Remeber these are the same a$$h*les that believe they 'create' reality by telling lies. They throw in for Edwards because they think they can turn him into Howard Dean.
BigTallMatt @ 69:
Don't over-interpret this. It's caused by the difference in the procedures that are used. The Republicans just come in and vote and go home. The Democrats have two rounds of voting and anyone who doesn't make 15% (or more in some places) on Round One is (almost always) eliminated and can get no votes from that precinct. That's why Democrats are usually either above 15% or near zero. You can never get anything that's between zero and 15% from a given precinct.
As to the idea that there was no singing. You weren't there. You don't know. And you happen to be wrong (although it was pretty awful, I must admit, so I wish you hadn't brought it up).
Give it a rest, budda. Troll somewhere else.
Once again...Any Dem over Any Republican...
anyways, the delegate count still has Hillary ahead..thanks to the Superdelegates.
Seriously though everyone, I know there's alot wrong in America, but when I read political issues in other countries, etc, America is still a great place.
I'm happy with any of the dem nominees; but the people I know favor Hillary or Edwards.
Apparerntly, the repugs can't even count either. They had less than 1/2 the turnout and only have 85% counted
Ruthless People @ 141:
Amen brother..Edwards did a good job.
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