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Of course Cheney "knew what he was doing" on 9/11/01 - he planned it!

Well, they are certainly like-minded: they like secrecy, dictatorship, taking from the taxpayer to enrich their cronies, etc.

But Rudy has never liked having underlings who have minds of their own. Hard to imagine those two trying to share power. ("My way or the highway!" "Yeah? You and how many NYPD?")

The mind boggles.

"The vice president has to know everything that’s going on, just in case the vice president has to step in at a moment’s notice,” he said. He added that during a conversation with Cheney on Sept. 11, 2001, he felt the vice president 'had a sense that he knew what he was doing.' "- ah, he sure did know what was going on!

Dhalgren @ 6:

I don't believe that Giuliani spoke to Cheney on 9/11. Rudy's full of shit.

Well ,not actually spoke to him. It was meant in a metaphorical way.

Or maybe not on the 9/11/01, but on one of the following 9/11/01s, kind of a cheneygiuliani ground hog day. Everyday reminds him of 9/11/01 (because everyday up to 9/11/01 really sucked for him! NYC hated him on 9/10/01!!

Good God that it, isn't it - Giuliani would pick Cheney as his running mate.

Or he'd take that as a deal to get the party-establishment support?

For once I agree with ghoulliani: Cheney knew exactly what he was doing on 9/11.

What's that sound? Flush!!! Buh BYe Rudy.

BTW, isn't it uncanny how it looks like Dickens was gazing into the future and seeing Adolph Ghoulliani when he created the character of Ebineezer Scrooge?

Just a suggestion, but wouldn't Giuli/McCain, or McCain/Giuli be a helluva ticket. Their slogan could be 'EIGHT MORE YEARS, EIGHT MORE YEARS'.

If McCain had the top spot, he could promote 'Remember the last 100-year war!? Let's do it again!'

If Giuli had the #1 position, he could chant 'NINE ELEVEN, NINE ELEVEN, NINE ELEVEN'.

They could arm wrestle, bite each other's noses, or asses, to see who got top spot.

Then all they'd have to do to make this a great country again. is lose.

Paul @ 17:

BTW, isn't it uncanny how it looks like Dickens was gazing into the future and seeing Adolph Ghoulliani when he created the character of Ebineezer Scrooge?

Do you know how much an author-illustrated copy of that book is worth? You could buy.... You could buy.... Heck, you could buy a candidate.

Hey you "you want a piece of me" Yeah you

Asked to elaborate on what qualities he would look for in a vice president Giuliani said,

"I'm looking for a demon in human form. Someone who epitomizes evil on a level rarely seen in this realm. He would have to have a heart made of frozen coal, be completely devoid of any compassion or remorse, hate babies and puppies, and it would be nice if he had a real nasty sneer."

Uh-huh..... You're right John, I didn't need another reason not to vote for this lyin corrupt asswhipe.... But thanks for the reminder....
Ya know, what with all his sexing around on the job... Maybe the guys problem is some kind of std warping his peabrain... It's not like Syphiletic insaniety has never happened before.. It got Al Capone way back when... Just a thought...I mean Rudy touting Dick Cheney A-gain??? Comeon...JD

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WOW - great pictures.

I'm beginning to sincerely doubt Giulia's sanity. How could a sane person make comments of this nature with the entire political picture of the past several years taken into account? I don't believe it's possible.

The man must be so isolated that he has even less of a clue than Hillary does, concerning liberal and moderate voters.

JTM @ 12:

Youffraita @ 5:

But Rudy has never liked having underlings who have minds of their own.

True, but it also pretty clear that starting in Episode II and continuing in Episode III, Anakin has a serious issue with authority. And, yet, he submits to the Sith Lord and becomes Darth Vader.

My only real question concerns the "rule" that the Sith Lord can have only one apprentice. Does that imply death for Bush, jail, or merely retirement? And does this kick in when the choice is announced or can it be put off to the scheduled date? And what nasty word starting with "in" is an accurate label for Giuliani?

Insane...

Or the GOP alternate team B;
McCain Lieberman.
Where do these people do their market research?

Makes sense. Ghouliani has to find someone with higher negative ratings than his own (55 percent).

Yes, and "The Dick" is at what...19% right now??

Now that Giuli's emulating DickHead, and has the sneer down almost pat, as soon as he learns to talk with a whisper, and fu*k everybody, not just mistresses, he'll be qualified to be a vice-president.

Of, say, Halliburtonistan.

"Thank God, George Bush is our President." - Giuliani on 9/11

Rudy? Rudy who? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Let him pick Cheney, let him pick anybody. He is already out of it and he knows it....

oh well In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace — and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock.

andy @ 45:

oh well In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace — and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock.

Think of the great things we could get from Nuclear Armageddon!

I was wondering how Bush and Cheney were planning to perpetuate their control over the white house after their reign ended. I was wondering who they had lined up to succeed Bush. Mr 9-11 fits the bill... also Romney seems like a Mr 4 more years...

I can see the perfect slogan:

"Why change dicks in the middle of a rape?
Giulliani/Cheney in 2008!"

To #46 -- I think you're confused: in the Iowa caucuses, the Republicans do a straw poll, so Huckabee's numbers reflect actual votes. In the democratic poll, the numbers reflect delegates: Obama received 900+ delegates, not actual votes. He actually probably garnered close to three times the number of votes that Huckabee got.

America IS sick of the republicans.

Rudy confuses me. I thought he was an intelligent man, but he clearly is NOT reading the country's mood right now. He's not getting that Americans don't want a more intelligent version of Bush; they want something completely different altogether. And the fact that he's not getting it tells me he's losing his ability to think with clarity. I want a president who can think, no matter what his politics. How can Rudy possibly think the 9-11 mantra isn't getting stale? And this Cheney crap is unbelievable. Just how out of touch can you be? Just who is Rudy trying to appeal to by saying that? He may get the votes of those people who have money, smoke cigars, golf, drink bourbon, drive SUVs, and want world dominance because in the process their pockets get lined with gold, but he ain't gonna appeal to the vast majority of the rest of us who have totally been ignored, neglected, and whose civil liberties have been eroded by the current administration. This election is going to be a people's election. Can't he smell that? He does have some abilities and accomplishments, and probably even ideas that he might be able sell to the rest of us with the right spin, but instead he cranks out the same ideology that has governed this country so disasterously the last seven years. It's not just Bush's incompetence Americans are fed up with; it's his ideology. Doesn't Rudy get that? Where's his mental acuity gone?

And his idea that he's going to win the nomination by default may work, but hasn't it occured to him or the pundits YET that that's not much of a compelling narrative in a national election as important as this one? Who wants to get behind somebody who won because the few states that happened to support him also happen to carry the most delegates? All the wind will be out of his sails. Especially as the cynicism of that approach is repellent; I want to vote for a candidate who worked his heart out to try to win over the people, even if it he knew it was unlikely he'd get them all.

Plus, he's become really boring. He says he has vision and is forward-looking but all he does is compare himself to Churchill and Reagan and his offensively propagandistic "The Terrorists War on Us" (I know we live on soundbites in this country, but still, I think the 21st century audience is a little more media critical and literate than the WWII generation), and 9-11 mantra have grown so damn stale and sound so simplistic. I never thought anybody could trivialize that horrific event through turning it into a canned soundbite. It's really tragic that the person who's managed to achieve the impossible is the very man who was so heroic on that day.

From what I read, he has a young campaign team. You'd think they'd get it, even if he doesn't. But glad they dont.

Good for Giuliani: Picking someone as a "model" the House Judiciary has already gathered evidence of alleged war crimes.

Do we need to bother taking the GOP seriously?

It'll be hard for Cheney to serve another 4 years from a prison cell..

Does anybody else feel that it's awfully strange that "the terrorists" who attacked on 9/11 haven't attacked since?

Are "they" a one hit wonder?

It's certainly not an access issue if a half a million illegal aliens enter the U.S. annually...

And there's plenty of targets and resources...

So, why only throw one punch in the fight?

And if the attack was not contrived internally, why didn't the terrosts go after some really dangerous targets, like a nuclear power plant or chemical factory?

Instead, they choose targets of "symbolic" significance...

Too many things just don't add up.

The whole thing smells like a mob hit.

Then again, the illegal takeover of the White House and the invasion of a sovereign nation are both behaviours of crooks, gangsters, mobsters...

Maybe that explains why since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan they've had bumper opium crops! Gotta increase profits for the crime bosses.

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Dear America's Cousin-diddler
Maybe if you didn't carry the Addingtonites water you'd be polling better than Duncan Hunter. Go kill yourself

He did know what he was doing on 9 - 11, he was trying to keep Bush in FLA while he called the shots and tried to get as much of that 2 trillion dollars as possible.

His latest ad indicates where he is going. Wonder if it was cheney--inspired.
http://www.foxnews-follies.com

Doesn't matter what Ghooliani thinks, he's on his way out...

Giuliani is the puppet candidate of choice sent from the Death Star.

Huckabee is the freak event that was never meant to happen, they did not expect to have Huckaboom to boom.

The GOP will do all it can to sink Huckabee.

Giuliani however is running with Dark Lord of the Sith's program and will get ubber-fixed in Florida, the state that loves to fix Republican electoral dreams.

prosecuters like guiliani are the reason cheney isn't in prison.

I am fairly certain that on any given day you could not capture me in a candid photo where I had a look on my face that showed such obvious disgust as the above photo of Giuliani. What goes on in the mind of such a person?

uly @ 53:

To #46 -- I think you're confused: in the Iowa caucuses, the Republicans do a straw poll, so Huckabee's numbers reflect actual votes. In the democratic poll, the numbers reflect delegates: Obama received 900+ delegates, not actual votes. He actually probably garnered close to three times the number of votes that Huckabee got.

Thanks for the schooling.

I thought he was an intelligent man

Amazing! Your quote amazes me.
Beside your statement about rudy's intelligence, your post makes a lot of sense.

Couldn't read the article-just the headline made me want to puke!

carol @ 68:

I agree. And if ugly were a crime, those two should already be in Gitmo!

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't get this.

What does being a criminal have to do with being in Gitmo? I mean, I'm sure there are some criminals there, but what does being a criminal have to do with being in Gitmo?

The only veep in my lifetime worse than Pricky Dick was Agnew, the pre-Ford VP under Tricky Dick. There are striking similarities between the two men. Both used fear and hate-mongering to silence critics of their presidents; Spiro, by calling them "pointy headed intellectuals" (as if being intelligent were a negative!), and Cheney, via his proxy, O'Really, by calling them "pinheads." (Actually, Pricky Dick doesn't need a proxy; his technique is the F-card -- for Fear. He tries to make us all feel we're lucky to lose habeas corpus and that we're all safe because of Gitmo, Abu Graib, and renditioning because, you know, the terrorists all have WMD'S, including nukes in Iran, and if we don't dismantle the Bill of Rights, we'll end up with a disaster that will make 9/11 look like a 4th of July fireworks show.)

The biggest difference between the two men, Pricky Dick and Agnew, is that the latter was just plain stupid. He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar (tax evasion and money laundering). Cheney is smarter than that. He made sure that he had lots of war profiteering equities in his portfolio before the Iraq invasion and, borrowing on his good old boy network ties dating back to his Ford-Rumsfeld days, he cut secret deals with the likes of Blackwater, making sure that the competitive bidding process would be co-opted so that his guys would win the jobs. He is a Grand Champeen Prick of the Highest Order.

Although there is some merit to what Truthiness Hurts says (above) about a plan to make Pricky the successor to Bush-Cheney so that the war profiteering can continue unabated, it is probably more a "monkey-see, monkey-do" type of thing. In this, Ruliani rather reminds me of the (in)famous Tammany Hall leader George Plunkett, who is said to have invented the phrase, "honest graft," and who summed up his career as a white collar thief with the reflection, "I saw my chances and I took 'em."

Those two faces remind me of Billy Crystal doing his imitation of Leona Helmsley.