The Newshoggers: Our government wouldn’t lie about an attack, would they?

Yup, just like Daniel Ellsberg said all along...a deliberate lie to start a decade long war that killed nearly 60,000 Americans and countless Vietnamese FOR NOTHING but hey, it could never happen again because our government really cares about the little people and our lives are sacred to them....riiiiiggghhhttt.

Know what I mean jelly bean?

Hillary wins,bush trys to steal headlines with war threat.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I don't know what to think about the Iranian boats. I do know that the voice that was said to come from one of the men on the boats reminded me of when Colin Powell went to the UN to explain our need to invade Iraq. He had a very poor recording that was supposed to be from a taped phone in Iraq and was supposed to prove that Iraqis were saying they needed to move something before the inspectors arrived. It was a pathetic attempt at best to show Iraqis were up to no good. Perry Mason would have objected to such evidence being offered seriously.

Karl Rove. "Why Hillary Won"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119992615845679531.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

When Edwards makes Obama ambassador to Kenya, that problem will be solved.

Maybe not the Kenya problem, but surely the Obama problem.

I went to The Intersection link to clarify whether or not the error was theirs or yours - it's yours. There has never been a Office of Technology Assistance, the "A' is for Assessment.

Will someone explain the complete lack of coverage of hackable diebold voting machines and the numerous reports of voting fraud in NH?

bleve @ 13:

Will someone explain the complete lack of coverage of hackable diebold voting machines and the numerous reports of voting fraud in NH?

What bleve said.

Geez, shades of the infamous Gulf of Tonkin attack, the Vietnam war, and Lyndon Johnson, who finally admitted faking the attack on US warships in the Gulf of Tonkin to escalate the war.

Here we are, Gulf of Tonkin redux, in the Strait of Hormuz.

But what if it's real!? What if a couple of Iranians, high on Afghan hash smuggled across the Iranian border by our covert US army in Iran, get in a canoe and paddle out to the side of one of our nuclear missile cruisers in the middle of the night?

Should we loose the mighty arm of 'god', AKA US Nuclear missiles, in a barrage on Teheran?

Could anyone really believe that The United States of America, bastion of freedom in the world, holder-out of all the good principles that the downtrodden folks of the world yearn for, could actually be so mendacious, so evil, as to fake, lie, cheat about an 'attack' on itself, just to have an excuse to attack, unilaterally, without real cause, a sovereign nation that bears no threat toward it, excluding the delusions in the perverted mind of it's president, and his NeoConZionist advisors, who are bent on destroying the whole middle east, in order that Israel may reign supreme?

Israel Uber Alles, is their cry.

And the answer is yes.

Bush sees Mideast peace treaty signed by Jan 2009
Thu Jan 10, 2008

Works like a charm every time. Next year, next month, just hold on a while longer, everything will be fine, next week, next month, next year . . . . .

Bud @ 8:

So the Gulf of Tonkin was fabricated?

Here's hoping it got a little hotter in hell for McNamera

Interesting timing on this. There was a post yesterday by a vet at Kos speculating that the speedboat incident was a passion play by Blackwater. Yes, at first blush the phrase tinfoil hat comes to mind. Until you see the tape and listed to the voice of the "threat". If that isn't the voice of a half-wit mercenary trying to sound farsi.....
The other thing he brought up is if this was viewed as a true threat, at the minimum they would have fired warning shots. More likely they would have burnt them down.

L.A. Confidential @ 7:

Karl Rove. "Why Hillary Won"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119992615845679531.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Geez, why doesn't old Karl stick to something he's an expert on, like 'Why Hitler Won'?

"To hell with bipartisanship. We need robust competition."

I agree. You can't be bipartisan with republicans. It doesn't work. It's only bipartisan if the democrats cave in.

Fascist States of America @ 25:

"To hell with bipartisanship. We need robust competition."

I agree. You can't be bipartisan with republicans. It doesn't work. It's only bipartisan if the democrats cave in.

Right, support John Edwards.

Max-1 @ 28:

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BIPARTISANSHIP:
When the Left hand assists the Right hand at shredding the Constitution.

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good observation!!!!!!!!!!!!these days it takes more effort figureing out whos the dems and whos the repigs!!!!!!!!!!!

With regard to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and lying. The ship I was on during my first tour of duty in Vietnam arrived at a point in time where the only way the ship's personnel would be eligible for added hazardous duty pay for the current month was if they were actually in a hostile situation. (As opposed to having been there for enough of the month to qualify even without being part of hostilities.)

Sure enough, that night the ship's log recorded fire towards us from the shore. (Fire which no one on the ship actually believed ever happened.) But everyone was glad to get the extra pay.

On that Iranian sea attack, don't count out their fierce navy of Boston Whalers. You may have seen just three on that film, but many more are hidden in secret harbours.

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