Hardball: Fighting for the Soul of the Republican Party
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Chris Matthews brings on Club For Growth's Pat Toomey and Family Research Council's Tony Perkins to discuss the chaos inside the Republican party and the fight for the fundamentalists (who like to call themselves "social conservatives" or "values voters", but let's be honest, the fundies by any other name are still fundies) to insert themselves into the process. When I first watched this clip, the thing that stood out for me (other than Chris Matthews is completely unable to allow a guest to have an uninterrupted thought) was the hilariously hypocritical and naked fear that Toomey and Perkins expressed for one party rule in Washington--when that party is the Democratic Party.
But leaving that aside, this is really an amazing window into a shattered Republican party...look how they don't really show support for any candidate but focus instead on how the candidates don't measure up. They're more focused on Giuliani and Huckabee being liberals (!!!) than McCain or Romney's bona fides as conservatives. What it comes down to for them is that the current crop of presidential contenders are all about as useless as a two legged stool. Can't argue with that.
What Soul?
"other than Chris Matthews is completely unable to allow a guest to have an uninterrupted thought"
So. Fricken. True. Didn't this peroxided idiot attend kindergarten and learn it's not polite to interrupt? It's not Hardball, it's Tourette's Syndrome.
Okay the evil part of me enjoyed their mental misery.
Priceless.
Why are these guys fretting about. Hasn't their god the power to install a conservative in the White House.
Quasi-religious scum, both of them.
I hope Ron Paul can gain some ground. That will be the final straw.
These people, under their own one-party rule, completely and possibly irreversibly trashed everything the USA stands for: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
All of them: Go to hell.
No republican in office...EVER. Destroy them. They are filth.
Trouble in the republican party?......good, pass the popcorn.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
Ya beat me to it.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
Damn, you beat me to it. That was exactly my first thought.
I had some good Coffee this morning.
;-)
fascists are condemned to lose.....they can win the battle but they can't win the war simply because of their own hate, racism, sexism and illogical behavior.
Is it wrong for me to feel sorry for the Republican guests when Tweety interrupts them repeatedly?
These fundies always look so, so uptight. I believe the fundies were exploited by Reagan and actually thought they had power. When they freaked out the rest of America, there was a backlash and the fundies were relegated to the bottom drawer of national discourse. That's where they're headed now.
JTM @ 13:
No, I feel sorry for anyone that has to sit face to face with Tweety.
This is what Ron Paul had to say.......
Paul went on to argue that the Republican Party has lost its way.
"I don't think we're fiscal conservatives any more," Paul stated. "Look at what we've done over these last 10 years. We finally got control of the government, and we became big government people. ... And then we turn around and we talk about liberty, and we've undermined the Fourth Amendment and personal liberty and personal privacy. ... We're policing the world ... at the same time our economy is suffering. ... So no wonder our coalition is breaking up. We actually have lost our way."
Don't you find it odd that folks are 'fighting for the soul of the republican party'?
The republican party is dead.
Didn't it's 'soul' go to 'heaven'?
Either the republican party was not 'good', and it's soul went to hell, and the folks fighting for it are gonna get very hot and dirty, or the 'soul's' in 'heaven', and they're gonna have to arm-wrestle 'god' for it.
Either way, these leftover remnants of the republican party are as weird as those who died.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
Yes, I too was enjoying my fair share of schaudenfruede watching these fundies do their excessive hand-wringing over the prospect of a Huckabee nomination. I truly hope that these guys keep up their rhetoric all the way through to November -- or better yet, they run their own "real" conservative candidate. That would basically be the death knell of the GOP candidate.
Banish the republican party. Abolish it. Don't let these weasels even get near a voting booth. They drag us down. They murder and pillage. They disrupt progress. Let them form some cult colony on some island somewhere, but get them out of the US.
Blue Lensman @ 15:
Why do these egotistical blowhards even bring guests on the show?
Maybe they should draft Cheney to get in the race....he's got all the goodies they are looking for.....I know, its scary to even ponder isn't it?
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You can't fight for a soul once it's been sold.
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Biggus Diggus @ 14:
They are being offered Huck.
This is total bullshit because everyone knows Republicans have no SOUL!!!!! They sold it to Bush and now they cry about it!!! PUSSIES!!!!
wisedup @ 8:
Can I have a soda with the popcorn?
I pity the Prez who inherits Bushes mess.
As someone has already mentioned the closest to the true conservative is ron paul, the rest are more aligned with the neo-conservative movement., particularly Madman McCain and the criminal Gouliani..
And don't you love that now that the rank-and-file fundies are rushing to Huckabee because he is anti-gay, anti-abortion and anti-woman, the hypocrites running the Jesus Show are terrified and trashing him? They know how to keep their Party masters happy and Huck isn't playing by the rules. I would love to see it be Obama vs Huckabee in November. Maybe then we can finally resolve the Civil War and move into at least the 20th century socially.
Sweet Jesus, I hate Chris Matthews!
http://sweetjesusihatechrismatthews.blogspot.com/
soul? what ? the repig party has is was allways the same as it is today!!!!!!!!! the only difference is that the corprations have decided to completly destroy the middle class and insure continual war as a policy of protecting thier class of people and thier class of people dont include YOU! your to shut your mouth !!!!!!breed children to fill the militarys and fill up thier grave yards with your kids, buy thier shitty chinese imported lead covered shit so your kids can have half a brain from being poisoned by that cheap crap, when are you going to learn? when? have they allready destroyed the brains of americans ? jesus !hillarys feeding off the corporations , obamas slopping at the corporaton pig swill troughs , hadnt you better wise up and find a politician thats not slurping off the corporations? dennis kucinich doesnt swallow the pig crap from corporations , other then hes got a great looking wife and shes taller then him they got no dirt on him!!!!!!!!! but thiers plenty on clinton and plenty on obama , the repig partys got you fooled the only two dems they want in this race is ,you guessed it hill and obama!!!!!!!!
Poor pricks. No one measures up to Commander Cod-Piece.
Looks like Rudy is going to drop out pretty soon:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/22610250
Is it just me, or do these guys not look and sound like Ted Haggard?
Can publicans see themselves in the mirror
The parts not covered with lines of coke?
This country is doomed ... the christo-fascists have tasted blood and will never stop.
Seems like the only decent candidate (who goes unmentioned in this clip) who could bring the party together is Ron Paul. The GOP needs to pull their head out of George Bush's ass and stop protecting this non-conservative war.
No way. A two-legged stool would win in a heartbeat.
Blue Buddha @ 32:
... and another ringing success for Foreign Policy Advisor Frum. Ha-haaaa ....
These people are so inflexible that it makes me want to throw up. Our way or the highway, well get on the road you sons of bitches! These are the sons and daughters of those friendly "Andy Griffith" southerners who would string up black people to trees on Saturday night and then go to church on Sunday praising the Lord. They arrogantly assume we should follow their lead. Well hallelujah and go fuck yourselves! We don't need you freaks to take back this nation.
Tony Perkins:
You fundi...uh, religious-right folk have not inserted yourselves into the Repub party enough. That's why the Dems are winning. Please, take over the Repubs completely. Completely hit them over the head with your religious police, mulla...uh, religious leaders, young earth creationism, historical revis...uh, reinterpretations and other literal biblical truths.
social conservatives= Christo-fascists.
weldon @ 12:
Yuo are right about them not winning but THEY WILL FIX AN ELECTION
W A N K E R S !!!!
Left&Left @ 38:
They are not reason based although I'm sure they would say they are. The core of their existence is belief based. These people will never relent. They - until the end of time - will make it their purpose in life to put their boot on your neck.
A healthy democray requires (my opinion) tolerance, inclusion, pluralism and compromise - these people are incapable of any of the four. They are strictly zero sum social darwinists (ZSSDs). Unless and until these movements can be identified as what they are and are stopped, this country has no future.
You think electing a democrat will help? These people have burrowed into the federal government at all levels and will fight a guerilla campaign to derail all reforms. The congress will do the same. These are dangerous, anti-democratic extremists.
This country is in the grips of a force from which it may not escape.
A two legged stool isn't completely useless. It would make a neat seat at a golf match especially if the legs fold.
"Hardball: Fighting for the Soul of the Republican Party"
Publicans got soul? When was the last time you heard one in a restaurant yelling for the m...fng ice tea?
Grilled sole with a wild rice medly doesn't count.
Necadawg Says @ 41:
They can do two things:
1) they can win - Bush proved that. accept the facts. He transformed the face of the US.
2) they can prevent anyone else from winning. They are willing to do what the democrats are unwilling to do - down to and including scorched earth. Many of the Bush 'acting' heads of departments have now and are now burrowing into the beaurocracy by becoming high ranking federal employees in those departments from which it will be nearly impossible for them to be fired. They are preparing for the guerilla war.
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L.A. Confidential @ 26:
Yes, and if it's a Democrat, s/he will be sure to be blamed for the financial and foreign-policy morasses that resulted from the previous eight years. Meanwhile, Dubya will go on to supervise his "presidential library" and charge obscene fees for flashing his what-me-worry grin at speaking engagements.
As for the "soul" of the GOP, it's so much fun to watch the greedheads fight the yahoos. But I have the sinking feeling they'll reconcile before the general election.
Lollimom @ 7:
Amen!
If the Republican party had a soul, it wouldn't be welcome.
One thing I can't understand is the way the Rethugs consistently diss the Mormons, and the Mormons keep coming back for more. There is no more staunchly loyal group of Republicans than the Mormons. The Republican party will let them come to the party, but they (the Mormons) will never sit at the head table. I wonder when they are going to figure out that the Republican party is run by Christians? No other religious group will rise to the top of the Republican party.
if these two were actually ideologically honest they would be at each other's throats. a christian "leader" and a "screw everyone but the rich" advocate should have zero in common. this is the nature, and the failure, of the hyper-partisan rethugs.
and, i might add, club for growth is to be ridiculed, discounted, fought, debated, sneered, mocked, slammed, insulted at every possible opportunity. their sole purpose is to further coporate imperialism at the cost of human rights, social justice, fairness, environmentalism, ethics, and decency.
no, these to shills are the exact opposite of which they claim. tony perkins preaches hate and division. and the club for growth has led to a stagnant and failing economy--except for the rich.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
The RNC sent Bush to look for it... lol
Can someone tell me why Tweety gives these taliban-wannabe neandertals respect, but cannot give some Dems (to be unnamed) the time of day?
By the way, I always knew Repubs were three-legged, but not in a good way. I think it's because they chewed Chinese toys as kids.
All the Reslug. NO values assholes and bigoted haters don't possess a heart and certainly their black souls are doomed to Hell for faking that they care and that they care as God did.
Otay @ 54:
one word T*O*O*L
Stephanie Miller is a prophet :-)
. . . “social conservatives” or “values voters”, but let’s be honest, the fundies by any other name are still fundies . . .
If a political group has "values" or "family" in the name, religiosity may be part of the ethos, but their aim, invariably, is sticking their big fat noses into everyone's bedroom--it's never anything else.
And they want the government to do it for them, and the rest of us to pay for it. We're all used to hypocrisy from the Right, but this disconnect between their small-government types and the sexophobes whose votes they count on is what's killing them now.
Molly, NYC @ 58:
I think you hit on a fundamental flaw in the Repub party here.
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Isn't the Rapture long over due about now?
Regarding good ol' Jerry Ford,I came across this at "David E's Fablog"
“Oliver “Bill” Sipple, a paunchy former Marine and high school football star, aged 33, was walking past San Francisco’s St. Francis Hotel on September 22, 1975, when President Ford emerged. Just three weeks before in Sacramento, Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, a deranged acolyte of the murderous cult leader Charles Manson, had got within a few yards of the President with a loaded gun. She had failed to get a shot off, but now the Secret Service was watching a small crowd of protesters across the street.
Sipple moved toward the front of the crowd to see his president. He saw him all right-as well as a gray-haired woman by his side, pulling a revolver out of her blue raincoat. Sipple grabbed her arm. Her shot missed the President by a few feet. Sipple wrestled her to the ground, and prevented her from getting off a second shot by shoving his hand into the firing mechanism.
Sipple shunned publicity. He was gay and he had never told his straitlaced Baptist mother. But Harvey Milk knew. “That guy saved the President’s life. It shows that we do good things, not just all that ca-ca about molesting children and hanging out in bathrooms.” It was Milk, according to the respected journalist Randy Shilts, in his biography The Mayor of Castro Street, who outed Sipple by an item dropped in Herb Caen’s gossip column. A despairing Sipple told reporters: “I want you to know that my mother told me today she can’t walk out of her front door because of the press stories.” He insisted: “My sexual orientation has nothing to do with saving the President’s life.” Apparently President Ford thought it did. There was no invitation to the White House for Sipple, not even a commendation. Milk made a fuss about that. Finally, weeks later, Sipple received a brief note of thanks. Exposure was too much for Sipple. Already listless, he drifted into alcoholism and drug dependency, finally taking his own life. It was a sorry end to a heroic act-and the beginning of an issue that would roil the gay community and identity politics in the decades to come. Did anyone have a right to “out” someone else?
Harvey Milk,for those who don't know was a city supervisor in San Fran and one of the first openly Gay politicians.He was assassinated in the mid 70's.
To "out" someone back then was a big deal,and in this instance probably a big mistake.
As for Ford...what a prick.
knuckledragger @ 2:
His new producer even tried to reign him in a little. Apparently, it's not working.
'That guy (CM) is insane!' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/10/stewart-vs-matthews-roun_n_8094...
Probably already said... The Republican Party has no soul...
Are creepy rich middle-aged white guys the only people allowed on Tee-vee?
Otay @ 59:
The fact that they SAY they're conservative but ACT anything but conservative isn't too. That's exactly why Ron Paul is getting the attention that he is.
Wingnut #1: "Having Hillary or Obama in the White House with a Democratic congress is pretty scary".
Soaring debt, senseless endless wars, cynically divided America for political purposes, widespread incompetence and corruption in the Tom Delay congress, emboldened enemies, alientate allies, activist conservative judges, constitution shredding, rigged elections and a theocratic power base.
Yea, voting Republican to continue down this road is not scary at all!
According to these pundits there are three types of conservatives; fiscal, defense and social. Where do you find one of those? Personally I’ve always found a conservative to be fiscally irresponsible, offensive and socially inept.
earl @ 65:
That's 90% of the corporate boardrooms so yes.
I recently visited an 83-year-old second cousin whom I hadn't seen in several years. He did very well in real estate, and he was always a rock-ribbed Republican. Growing up, he said, he remembers all of his family members inveighing against Democrats in general and FDR in particular. So he was well immersed in the dank baptismal water of Republicanism.
So ... imagine my delight when he said that he can't imagine why anybody would vote Republican these days. He said that the party of Lincoln and Eisenhower -- hell, even Baker and Dirksen -- is no more. He said that Bush has destroyed our standing in the world, and that Cheney is a bona fide war criminal. He's now an independent, and he's been voting for Democrats in his local races. No more Repugs for him -- ever!
I love it when people finally see the light, even if it takes them eight decades!
lol when Fiscal Conservatives and claiming that Social Conservatives are not Conservatives enough or vice-versa.
Giuliani may have formerly been a social Liberal but he is now a war mongering corperate hack, making him the most likely potential fasciste.
Rudy will win Florida, Florida will be rigged.
Rudy is the corperate chosen one to drive the war machine forward.
Mitt is the alternate corperate 2nd choice and since he changes his positions all the time, he will align himself the Sith Lords want him to.
Watch Florida! it will be fixed
Where is it? I'll give you a hint - It's been crying recently.
I still remember the Republican convention of 2004, when they announced Zell Miller as the "soul of Democratic party"
Clytemnestra @ 53:
Back in the 80's Reagan threw the heart in the dumpster. Maybe the soul is there too.
Dear rapture bunnies,
None of you make enough to benefit from Reaganomics. Tell the top 1 percenters to take a hike
Ruthless People @ 67:
The scariest part--let alone the last 7 years--is that these Bugs are at their worst when they are out of power.Thats when the TRULY nasty vindictive shit goes down.The kind of obsessive toxic hate that keeps government from accomplishing anything meaningful.I can't even begin to imagine the vibe if another Clinton gets back in the Whitehouse.
Yuo are right about them not winning but THEY WILL FIX AN ELECTION
This is true. As a former fundie raised in that cult I know that this is absolute fact.
I believe they would literally kill in order to stop an individual from spreading false doctrine in the name of jeezus.
If the end is god's will (as interpreted by the leader) then the means are always justified.
NO MATTER WHAT THEY MAY BE!!
This is not overstated. These people are to be feared for what they would literally do.
It's a cult. As a former member I can honestly say I know this for 100% fact.
Sorry, but these two have nothing to do with religious fundamentalism. They are Repub power brokers and use religious groups to amass their power.
pinkobait @ 75:
A one way bus ticket to Falluja would prevent them making mischief and preventing us bringing the country back on track. Besides. they started this war for other people's kids to fight why shouldn't they reap what they've sewn first hand. We could call it "America's plan for victory at home and abroad". Get the Republicans out of the country and help the war effort at the same time, a win/win proposition!
Blue Lensman @ 6:
The only way Dr. Paul will gain some ground is if all Americans, Democrat, Republican and Independant, wake up, insist on fair elections -- both the Dem and Repug primary results in New Hampshire are going to be recounted, that whole election stinks to high heaven, and in Iowa there is evidence of electoral fraud there -- and start dealing with real issues instead of flinging shit at each other.
While the Republican party is morally corrupt and clearly so, the Democrat party doesn't seem that much healthier. As evidence of that, look at how many of Bush's policies the Dems have supported "reluctantly." And why, after everything Bush and Cheney have done, are they still in office.
Ruthless People @ 69:
There is one bright spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTCQSk2l8bc
Blue Lensman @ 6:
Ron Paul represents Texas perfectly. A young-earth creationist and a conspiracy theorist to boot. I wonder if O'Reilly is voting for him.
"Fighting for the Soul of the Republican Party"
They're fighting for something that doesn't exist?
And they thought the Purple Heart band-aid stunt was soooo cute... The republican party has gone bonkers. It couldn't have happened to bigger bunch of idiots. I look to forward to the day we can turn a page and look back at their hideous corrosive history and be reminded why this country is better off keeping these bozos away from power.
It's at times like these when I think that anyone who takes the Family Research Council must be a little like the sheep in Animal Farm who never questioned anything they were told -- "Republicans good, Democrats ba-a-a-ad! Republicans good, Democrats ba-a-a-ad! Republicans good, Democrats ba-a-a-ad!"
And on that note...Giuliani and Huckabee are liberals???? Since when?!?!? If the Religious Right considers them to be liberals, I shudder to think of what they define as a fascist...
Oh, wait...silly me! I forgot...the Religious Right thinks that right-wing totalitarianism is a contradiction in terms.
Don't matter one bit. Hacked voting machines decide the winner not votes. The difference between polls, exit polls and the final vote count cannot be mathematically justified.
Something is rotten and must be addressed and if not, the good fight is moot.
These two shining examples need to realize they are tarred with the same brush as the repug candidates they're critiquing.
The entire authoritarian rethug complex is so corrupt and and decayed it's all coming down around their ears.
They should make their official symbol a dead dinosaur.
Does the caption on that still actually say “Battle for the heart and soul of Republicans?”
Because if so…why f-ing bother? You could make a better heart and soul out of a can of Play-Doh than the average Republican displays.
If you really want win them over, you should be aiming at their wallets and hatreds. Hearts and souls? Christ. If you can find them, they'd probably be happy to let you keep them.
Pretty funny, these hypocrites. They are afraid of a single party being in all three houses of Government? We have endured them for Six (6) frigging years, and look at the kettle of fish they have gotten us into. And all their talk about soul? SOUL??? They haven't shown ANY soul in the past 7 years.
These two guys look like the kids everyone used to pick on in school because they were little snitch's and tattle tales. The girly boys, now grow into closet queens.
Milquetoast Anyone .... ???
when will a political scientist correct the republican use of liberal vs conservative... those are not opposites...
it's liberal vs. communitarian...
either political philisophy can take a conservative or progressive form...
so economically, many republicans are conservative liberals... who are sometimes called neoliberals...
misdescription of political philosophy confuses the voting populous... these two jokers are trying to say, if you are a social conservative, i.e. conservative communitarian, you must also be a economic conservative...
this is wrong...
first, a conservative communitarian would likely establish regulations on the economy based on some set of normal principles... this is what huckabee is doing with his fair tax proposals, etc...
second, the jokers above, who are anti-big government and for free-market economies, are "liberal capitalist", i.e. conservative liberals on economic policy...
to suggest huckabee is an economic liberal is to MISDIRECT the voting public...
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
assoul!
what's the use, chrissie! tom delay and now these assholes?
Otay @ 81:
Ron Paul represents Americans who are fed up with the status quo (which also includes a lot of Texans). I believe in evolution, but since when did the president's duties involve anything related to evolution? I'm also pretty sure Oreilly isn't voting for him, unless the blowhard suddenly wants to get rid of a completely failed foreign policy of war-mongering and save this country from financial meltdown.
Chris Matthews was trying to get these two to agree on narrowing the field by excluding Guiliani for being a Social Liberal and Huckabee for being a Economic Liberal.
At the end, Club For Growth’s Pat Toomey said he won't agree to exclude Guiliani.
So Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins said then he won't agree to exclude Huckabee.
In short, a total and complete waste of airtime.
And the cracks widen in the Reagan Coalition...
udyLou Says:
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
What Soul?
Ya beat me to it.
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yep, in its place, where the soul should be, is nothing more that an abscess full of evil puss ............
A very entertaining dsplay of wingnuttery.
"I'm the bigger wingnut". "NO...I am". "No...I'm waaaay more intellectually dishonest, transparent, bigotted, confused and conflicted than you are." "Noo..no you're not. Behold my mantle of nuttery."
It never ceases to amaze me how disconnected from the modern world these crazies are.
I really find it offensive that anyone gives the likes of Tony Perkins a platform from which to spew his Talibangelical bullshit! In Europe, clowns from an organization like his aren't even taken seriously, let alone interviewed!
I find Tony Perkins reminds me an awful lot like Ted Haggard.
Do you ever watch Ron Paul? He has Mr Toad crazy eyes and never listens - he is an ancient, racist nut-job who who loves to hear himself talk. Do you listen to him? He is anti-abortion, anti affirmative action, doesn't 'believe' in evolution, wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, introduced a flag-burning amendment, etc. etc. Of all the bat-shit crazy Reps he is the craziest. AND he wants to return to the gold standard. If it didn't work for William Jennings Bryan 100 years ago, it is not likely to work today.
People bitch about Matthews, but he does do a good job of letting Republicans paint themselves into a corner.
anon @ 35:
We definitely need an agnostic or atheist re-awakening in this country, otherwise, this take-back-America-for-Christ mentality will be our undoing! 8 more years of Republican rule like the last 8 years??? Shit, we'll begging other countries for asylum!
What Powkat said.
Ron Paul is a nutcase.
abaris @ 73:
Is that bat-shit crazy bastard pushing up daisies yet? Lord, I hope so!
Bitter Scribe @ 49:
The idea of Bush getting paid to give speechess leaves me speechless.
Tweety is having a blast interrupting animatronics...they're so life-like!
Ruthless People @ 79:
Haven't we already done enough damage to the poor people of Iraq? Why would you wish such evil upon them?
The Japanese our debating Sept 11 terror attack (not) on national TV. Isn't it about time C&R to let some of these post through. Once 1/2 pop is put in Fema camps, it will be to late to publish the truth.
Powkat @ 99:
I agree that he's crazy but totally disagree that he's the craziest of the Republican candidates. Giuliani wins that award in my opinion. Romney is a close second with his willingness to say whatever his advisers tell him people want him to say no matter how contradictory they are to everything he's said before. McCain for somehow surviving a POW camp but crumbling under Bush/Rove on the issue of torture shows some serious integrity issues. Fred Thompson is an actor which is all that needs to be said about that.
Basically, they're all batsh!t - Ron Paul fits nicely in the mix.
Social conservatives or values voters? Nonsense. The correct term for these people is "Imposers". That's really all they want to do: impose their narrow view of morality on everyone else. I don't mind telling you that the kowtowing to these distasteful people and their apparent dominance of political discourse has been quite frightening to those of us outside the U.S. What exactly do they want to conserve? It surely is not the constitution, or human rights. As near as I can tell it is the size of their bank accounts to which all else appears secondary. The tide appears to be turning however. The Republicans simply cannot field a candidate who can cover all the bases. They have drifted too far to the right and to contradict Yeats, I think the center can hold.
OK, I'm fairly unfamiliar with the ins-and-outs of American media, but MSNBC is a mainstream media news outlet, correct?
Is it not somewhat rude that Senator Clinton is repeatedly referred to as "Hillary" while the other candidates get at least some version of their full names - "Barack Obama", "Rudy Giuliani", etc. - or just their surnames?
Is this not gender-biased or, at the very least, biased?
I could be wrong, but I don't think you'd see this happening on BBC, ITV or C4 news. Is it common practice with U.S. news?
rush to war @ 107:
Got a link?
gauloises @ 110:
Yes, please notify the Clinton campaign to TEAR UP all the campaign stickers, posters...Oh, wait.
That's how THEY refer to her...THEY decided it was Hillary, the press just followed.
And, I would prefer they DID remind us of her last name....
If they said Clinton for President, they would be reminded us of the Dynasty aspect of this....
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton...
Yes, only TWO families in the entire country should be in charge
for 32 years.....
WashStateBlue:
*slightly embarrassed* OK, I didn't know that. Give me a break, we don't see a lot of campaign stickers and posters over here.
Just seems somewhat odd, that's all. But different strokes for different folks.
But, back to the subject...
I'm really praying (wink) that we don't have to suffer much longer
with hacks like Tony Perkins getting all this face time.
The man is a screaming homophobe, a total misogynist...
Yet, they trot him out as some expert we should respect!
He is loathsome, just a power made hack who gives Christianity
a really bad name
gauloises @ 113:
Opps...Sorry, I probably sounded a little strident.
Just spending too much time watching the Hillbots wave the
"poor poor pityful me" gender card all over the web.
Say almost anything against Hillary on a lot of blogs.
and you are swarmed over by her advocates.
Besides, that "one name" recognition is priceless in politics.
No one has a doubt who you mean, when someone says
Hillary.
mr. brew @ 93:
You are kidding, right? Our country is already approaching rock-bottom on science and math education. Do you really want another president who is scientifically illiterate?
Looking at the Shrub's record, and how he has had enough power to infiltrate our government scientific agencies with anti-science loons. And look at how he has been able to withhold funding for those agencies who have bucked him. And has seeded the agencies with those carrying out agendas directly opposite to the agencies purpose.
Did Chris slip and reveal he's a Republican?
If he were an objective journalist he would have phrased it " Is the Republican Party going to have a divided party ..."
But the money quote:
Agreed Chris ... especially the loser who is the moderator of Hardball.
in fact, the repug coalition was always doomed to failure once the majority of social conservatives started to realize that they have been repeatedly voting against their own best interests
and what are these guys talking about??
they fear one party rule by the dems??
the last time that happened, the idiot dems were so taken with themselves that they coughed the whole thing up in 2 years
These two blind holy men are part of THE PROBLEM... not part of the cure. They were part of Bush's conservative coalition.
LOOK WHAT BUSH'S COALITION did to this country.
Make them both promise that they will stay out of politics.
Dang! I love it! None of those Asshats are conservative enough for these Neolithic Knuckle Draggers!!
I hope that interview is seen by all fenceriders who are contemplating voting Repug.
Heart & Soul of Repug Party??............No Heart.......No Soul..........No Guts............No Brains.
Gee, they sure didn't have a problem with Bush and Republicans controlling both houses and the Supreme Court for six years. Talk about scary, look where we are because of that.
Wow. None of them could name any combination of Republicans that can win in November.
Ahhhh...
I wonder when Tony Perkins will have his turn getting caught playing "footsy" in a bathroom stall, get caught red handed in a pedophile sting, or get caught soliciting a prostitute. Notice the republicans don't mention Monica much anymore.
As I keep trying to tell people, this Tony Perkins guy is a homo. He had an affair with Tab Hunter and there were rumors going around that he died of AIDS. Why doesn't he go back to acting in films? He was pretty good in those Psycho movies. I'm glad it's not true that he died of AIDS, but he's pretending to be something he's not. He even seems to have retreated so far into the closet he's had plastic surgery and dies his hair red. Sheesh!
I beg to differ....a two legged stool is quite useful. It keeps you from sleeping when you should be awake. Maybe more people in the media should work with two legged stools, especially when watching the Washington politicos.
Will America Survive Itself @ 89:
Nader said in 2000 that the only way Americans would finally realize the damage that a corporate fascist government does to the country is to EXPERIENCE it. Well, he was exactly right! It takes some time for people to recognize the hypocrisy and it takes lots of examples of the destruction before the majority realize the damage. And it will take decades of really hard-nosed hard work for all the damage to be repaired. Who's got the strategic smarts and the balls to do it and still keep the country energized with inspiration to keep going? One can't do both -It takes two and they're both front runners!
Wow, is it true? Nicole actually made a semi-positive comment about Matthews? and didn't call him Tweety?
But her comment about his interruptions (other than Chris Matthews is completely unable to allow a guest to have an uninterrupted thought) was her regular shot across the bow.
Reality check is in order. Yes he does interrupt his guests. Most times because he cuts off spin when his guests choose to not answer his questions..
Sometimes he goes overboard on the interruptions, but largely I am happy he does it as often as he does.
This is almost too funny to be true; THE top conservatives admitting that the Republicans have NO electable candidate.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Next time, test for brain damage before annointing a candidate ( as bush was the chosen one a year before the 2000 primaries, despite his obvious and massive flaws). Psychos tend to make your party look bad, and even our half retarded electorate knows when they are being screwed.
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