Mike's Blog Roundup

Making Light: When you use an electronic voting system, you must audit the results if you want to have confidence in them.

Cliff Schecter: NYT found 121 cases in which vets of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in this country, or were charged with one after their return from war.

The Moderate Voice: Don't Democrats call this voter suppression? Jeralyn points out the suit does have some merit.

The Mahablog: Wired for morality.

The Reality-Based Community: Progressives who will accept nothing less than the TwoMinutes' Hate, and conservatives who think of a "reasonable" liberal as one with no backbone, will not find what they want in Sen. Obama.

OFF THE BEATEN PATH: Jack Rice in the Cross Hairs, The Weekly Scrivener, RaceWire, Pacific Views



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'The Reality-Based Community' is a figment, a myth fostered by the Science Religionists, whose bible is the ancient 'The Origin of the Species', which is way over a century old, yet still quoted chapter and verse.

I believe it was Darwin who promulgated the preposterous theory that if you enclosed an infinite number of primates in a room with an infinite number of typewriters, that they eventually would not only create an exact copy of 'The Origin of the Species', but also 'What it Means to be Human'.

Auditing the results of an electronic vote is difficult if the audit depends upon counting pixels visually.

I wonder how long it will take some genius to adopt a policy of 'Ahead the the Past', and return to paper ballots, with people writing in their candidates.

For years, scanners have been able to 'read' writing, so counting would not be onerous.

For those who protest, 'What about those who cannot write?', the obvious answer is 'They have not learned, nor earned, the right to vote'.

WTF is everyone? Fifth is First??

With all you guys focused on Chris Matthews for the last 4 days, I hope you realize that Dennis Kucinich will need some money to finance the recount. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be associated with the Democratic Party supporters. Why does one person need to push this god damned party forward and do all the dirty work for ya. As you were bashing Chris, ABC changed their own rules and told Dennis to f**k off even though he was formally invited. Yeah, I know, you missed that. No wonder. So did the collective power and rage of the C&L readers at least produce a slight chance of seeing Matthews the "Worse or Worser"? If it didn't, let's give Dennis some blog space for a change, there's plenty of work to be done after all.

Preacher Boob @ 3:

Auditing the results of an electronic vote is difficult if the audit depends upon counting pixels visually.

When I got to the point in that piece where they said that touchscreens "didn’t seem to be that widely used in the primary" (referring to NH) I stopped reading. If the article had been about the environment and had said that "perpetual motion machines don't seem to be widely used" I would have stopped, too.

It was NBC, debate scheduled to air live on Jan 15. NBC. Hmm, who would have thought. Keith has some explaining to do then. Knowing C&L supporters, they will most certainly first bash and crucifies Kucinich for giving them the reason to dislike Keith, the last good media talking head standing, before they will say anything, remotely bad about the GE employee himself.

Having the desire for justice and correction of the last 40 years of Republican rule by fiat and temper tantrum reduced to a desire for a "two minute hate" is pretty insulting. Possibly the worst 1984 analogy ever.

As a member of long standing in the Secular Humanist's in the US, I can say that hatred has nothing to do with the Reality-Based community. It seems to me that the one's who hate the most are those who carry the guilt and delusion of the Theist. We are mostly dismayed that there as so many who are deluded and look to the unseen/unknown/unprovable for guidance.

As long as there are electronic voting machines and electronic vote tabulating machines run by Republican corporations with secret proprietary software, Republican gangsters will be happy to hack, rig and steal our elections. They have been doing this for the last eight years.

Using hand-counted paper ballots in all our elections is the only way that we are going to get democracy back from the GOP gangsters...

here is a chilling bit of reality from the NY Times piece on war vets & murder:

Mr. Strasburg’s former platoon leader, Capt. Benjamin D. Tiffner, who was killed in an I.E.D. attack in Baghdad in November, wrote a letter to Nebraska state authorities. He protested the length of the sentence and requested Mr. Strasburg’s transfer “to a facility that would allow him to deal with his combat trauma.”

“Seth has been asked and required to do very violent things in defense of his country,” Captain Tiffner wrote. “He spent the majority of 2003 to 2005 in Iraq solving very dangerous problems by using violence and the threat of violence as his main tools. He was congratulated and given awards for these actions. This builds in a person the propensity to deal with life’s problems through violence and the threat of violence.

something tells me that W will busy himself in retirement with brush-clearing & stumbling through speeches about his legacy/fantasy rather than taking an ounce of ownership for the countless lost lives due to his 'slam-dunk' war.
dammit!

Hey, I know this isn't an open thread, but I was wondering, has anyone speculated on whether or not Bhutto's gunman was, himself, unwittingly, the bomb?

the junta apologists don't care about the murders

Re: The Moderate Voice, "Don’t Democrats call this voter suppression?"

Yea, that's voter suppression.

I believe I've read some decent stuff by Kleiman before, but boy, that is an insulting straw man-ad hominem combo. Way to co-opt those GOP talking points, there. Liberals do not dislike Bush because of personal animus. It's because he's a disaster. Similarly, liberals rightly question how naive or savvy Obama is when he talks about "bipartisanship." Lambert's in-depth post at Corrente is one of the best posts on why. Dissimilarly, I don't know of any liberals who hate Obama.

I'd leave a similar comment over at Kleiman's site, but apparently he doesn't allow comments. I really have to question the intellectual integrity or at least the perception of anyone invoking Orwell to criticize liberals in this election.

Really, who the hell is Kleiman talking about? Has he met some irrational person who just hates Obama? Who has criticized Obama for not supporting voters' rights? Has Kleiman bothered to read any of the concerns from liberals about Obama? Could he, y'know, link something on that? I believe most liberals like many aspects of Obama, but have their concerns, some of them serious, and all of them well-founded.

Jeez. Perhaps Kleiman's just defensive because he just endorsed Obama recently. But I'm disappointed or just very unimpressed. The pigs and humans continue to sit at the table, and currently, Kleiman's sitting with them.

Wow, the (Shecter/) NYT story is brutal and heart wrenching. The costs of war indeed, you obviously don't turn on and then turn off a killing machine so easily. Bush should be tarred, then feathered, then lit like the guy at the "wrong house"; same with Cheney, Gonzalez, Powell, Rice, Rove and Rumsfeld. Warriors without warriors' deaths aren't warriors at all.

bilhelm-X @ 18:

Wow, the (Shecter/) NYT story is brutal and heart wrenching. The costs of war indeed, you obviously don't turn on and then turn off a killing machine so easily. Bush should be tarred, then feathered, then lit like the guy at the "wrong house"; same with Cheney, Gonzalez, Powell, Rice, Rove and Rumsfeld. Warriors without warriors' deaths aren't warriors at all.

Sorry "Schecter"

I am sorely disappointed in Josh Marshall for buying into the corporate media meme that those who question the results, unexpected or not, of electronic voting tabulation must be wearing tin foil hats. There may indeed, as I believe, be many reasons for Clinton's unexpected victory on Tuesday but to ignore or denounce mistabulations by the electronic voting machines as one possible factor is blind folly.

I'm just in shock that a country who had a fraudulent election only 7 years ago wouldn't have mandatory audits and paper trails. It's flat-out absurd.

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