Newt Gingrich on <I>Real Change</i>
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jan 12, 2008 3:00pmHow do disgraced politicians retain their relevance as far as the Sunday talk shows are concerned? They write a book* on how to fix all the things they broke while in office. *Offer works only for Republicans, naturally.
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Newt Gingrich challenges both Congress and the President to enact "Real Change" to make things better. Coincidentally, Real Change is also the title of his new book. Amazing how that works. What's equally amazing is what Newt thinks constitutes real change:
Michigan was in a recession when the rest of the country was growing. Other than the states hit by Katrina, Michigan which had been hit by a Democratic governor, Democratic legislature, raised taxes. Yet none of the candidates are willing to be radical enough. Part of what we…Real Change focuses a long section on Detroit. Detroit has gone from a 1,800,000 people in 1950 and highest per capita income in the United States to 950,000 people and it ranks today 62nd in per capita income. And yet nobody want to get up and say...tell the truth. The truth is large bureaucracies are destructive . High taxes are destructive. The system we built discourages any businesses from opening up in Detroit. The schools don’t deliver. They uh they do deliver paychecks. They do take care of the union, but they don’t deliver for the kids. And this is a time where if you’re an African American male and you drop out of high school, you have a 73% chance of being unemployed and a 60% chance of going to jail. So I think we need dramatically deeper and more fundamental change.
The prescribed change? Reduce spending and tax cuts. Real revolutionary, doncha think? Does Newt cover the devastation to Detroit's economy by trade agreements like NAFTA, taking manufacturing jobs out of the country? Nah...it's the bureaucracies that are destructive. He bemoans the state of education, but advocates cutting spending even further. Is he under the impression that will help???
However, it's hard to argue with the premise here:
The Congress and the President, rather than say that’s an interesting campaign, now let’s get back to politics as usual in Washington, the Congress and the President do have a real opportunity to listen to the American people who are saying that real change does matter and the real change is what they want. And I think it will be a pretty good contest for the two parties to say so how much can you deliver in the next three or four months, as opposed to seeing politics in Washington over here and politics in America over here.
Listening to the electorate? That IS revolutionary.
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Hey Newt! Why don't we rescind all those tax cuts Geogie Boy gave to you and your big business buddies? OR why don't we invest money into our underfunded school systems? Why don't we have a tax code that is fair to everyone besides the super rich? You can't because that's what made you what you are today. A blowhard with no conscious and little pity for those you were supposed to represent.
Real change is dumping your wife while she's sick in the hospital, right Newt?
"How do you know she's a witch?"
"She turned me into a newt, that's why."
"....?"
"I got better."
Grinch sends me screaming into the night.
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P.D. @ 1:
you forgot a fat rancid bastard who doesnt even know who his daddy is!!!!!!!!!!!!my opinion is newt was concieved bacause of a filthy toilet seat at a red bird gas station!!!!!!!!
I'd still like to know why America is still listening to this blowhard after his Contract on America.
Could the fact that the automobile industry is starting to shut down the factories and OUTSOURCE because they can use "slave labor" in those places. Whereby adding billions to the CEO and owners salaries by crushing the employee.
This is why everyone is sick of mainstream media. Newt Gingrich? Really? Why don't we just bring out Heinrich Himmler from the dead comment on the next presidential election?
Bush the Liar @ 2:
Burn!!!
This guy is almost as disgusting a toad as Goldberg. First the GOPers do their level best to destroy effective government, to drown it in a bathtub: Cut taxes and don't put any money into maintaining society. When their hapless target begins to crumble under the weight of GOPer neglect, cronyism, corruption, flight of jobs to China and whatnot, then they blame the very things that once-upon-a-time made the system great and the envy of all.
And then, a complete worm-tongued shitbag like Newt comes along to describe the plunder, the systematic destruction, the greed, the utter indifference to people and the very concept of society and defend such things as if the were brought about by virtuous motives, as if theruin and destruction were themselves vortuous.
There is a term to describe Newt: Amoral social parasite.
Paul @ 9:
well said paul!!!!!!!!!!!
tyree @ 4:
Hiya, tyree!
Happy new year. You theory on Newt's origins has the ring of truth about it.
Blame everything on the unions that raised the standard of living for all Americans whether they were union or not. As for more refineries, the refineries we have are adequate to refine all of the oil we are stealing from under developed nations already. Building more would add to the cost of oil because it would take away from their bottom line. Newt still thinks we're stupid.
tyree @ 10:
Very well said. It amazes me that people still give this sack of crap a forum.
happy new yr to you too paul, and yes thiers no accounting of how many repigs owe thier birth to contaminated toilets at red bird, guess it was from the atraction of all thoes gas wars in the good old days!!!!!
I think the French had the answer to these upper class idiots.
nonbeliever @ 13:
People don't. Corporate interests do.
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I love Newt, read his books, the guy brilliant, to bad he's not running. He's right though, has to be an incentive to grow jobs, government tends to slow things down.
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The only change we had available under repugs like the grinch was to buy coffee for, except at Starbucks, where your money has to be able to crinkle.
Kinda like me.
John @ 17:
Go take your meds, now.
Now wait a minute. I was under the impression that everything was just dandy under the current administration. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Waahhnity and the like are all claiming the bad news we are getting where the economy and the war are concerned is all due to a reluctant media that refuses to properly inform us.
Relax Newt, everything is just fine. All you need to do is shove your head back into the hole in the ground and switch over to Fox News.
Everything is just fine.
Sarcasm alert off.
Does George realize having Newt on to talk about the problems in America is like having Nero on to comment about Rome burning?
Detroit went down the dumper because all the greedy CEOs running the companies kept trying to sell obsolete SUVs long after the market had moved on. They were not willing to spend the money to design new cars or new efficient production lines. Don't blame unions for the idiotic decisions made by the people running the companies! But you can count on the CEO's getting millions of dollars in bonuses while they run the companies into the ground. Can you blame a factory worker for wanting a fair shake when he watches some guy running his company into the ground and walking off with hundreds of millions of dollars?
I'll tell you what I would call Real Change - never seeing a national disgrace like Newt spewing a butt load of lies on TV again.
I'm just going to take "this week" off the list of shows I watch until George decides to comment about what's really happening in America.
AConfederacyofDunces @ 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8DIg3oHFI
The guys in the very begining of the clip were the local republicant party trying to win in '08.
Would someone please neuter Gingrich!
Heinrich Luitpold Himmler 7 October 1900 – 23 May 1945) was commander of the Schutzstaffel (SS), as well as one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany and the Nazi hierarchy. As Reichsführer-SS he controlled the SS, and to a degree, all the German police and security forces (including the infamous Gestapo).
As founder and officer-in-charge of the Nazi concentration camps and the infamous Einsatzgruppen death squads, Himmler held final command responsibility for annihilating “subhumans” whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live. Shortly before the end of the war, he offered to surrender all of Germany to the Allies if he was spared from prosecution as a Nazi leader. Later in 1945, Himmler committed suicide with cyanide when he became a captive of the British Army after Germany had lost World War II.
The only doctorates I can imagine the grinch, kindanasty rice and krystolnacht having must be from the schools that still teach the use of leeching and lancets.
Afterall, one theory is as good as another, right?
tyree @ 14:
Tyree,
You may have a paper in this. Maybe it could be published in the Journal of Nature or some other peer reviewed journal. Good one.
Dumb fucking rat bastard. Listening to him is like commiting slow suicide with an icepick in the ears. And far less interesting.
I wouldn't blame this one on NAFTA. Blaming free trade agreements does little good for anyone.
If you want to blame Motor City's decline blame the failure of the American auto industry. They failed to keep up, to change with the times, and to produce cars that are globally competitive. Isolationism is not the answer, but renewing efforts, stepping up efforts to improve education, improving products and undertaking new and innovative ventures that will lead the world and create 'made in America' industry and jobs.
Rather than blaming NAFTA, blame short sighted greed and the demand for SUVs. Earlier today you had a post that showed about a third of presidential hopefuls are completely detached from reality. When that's the kind of leadership America is getting, there's little wonder the country is declining.
Ron @ 19:
Where is Newt wrong??? We live in a capitalist economy based on incentive, he is right!! Unions don't allow you to fire bad workers, seen it before, have you read any of his books?
"People don’t. Corporate interests do." - AConfederacyofDunces
AConfederacyofDunces,
Now you're getting to the heart of the matter.
Hey Newt, you blind racist bastard, did you already forget about gat and nafta?
detroit lost its manufacturing base, not because of beauracracy, but because you helped to make it easier and more profitable for the auto companies to open shop in other countries
fuck you,, you elitest piece of shit
Newt has said if someone asks him to be their veep running mate, he will say yes. Maybe he's trying some early campaign talk to try to win over one of the repub nominees. Well, let's hope it's a republican nominee.
tyree @ 4:
Hey Tyree, that toilet seat you spoke of just posted at #17!
ysbaddaden @ 25:
He's got a doctorate in trout fishing. It's one of those one line things where you just send in a few thousand bucks, and they give you a degree for "life experiences". Very prestigeous.
John @ 17:
Who gave you those lame talking points? Comedian Rush Limbaugh or Chimpy McFlightsuit?
Real change will occur, Newt, when the public ceases to take you and your sociopathic, criminal party seriously. You have about 10 months to go.
And I'll be glad when people like you are consigned to permanent oblivion instead of polluting our national dialogue with your filthy lies and revisionism. That the MSM thinks that hypocrites like you are credible is a disgrace.
John @ 29:
i read newts last book, it was great , the premiss that you can save money by useing one sheet of toilet paper by sticking your finger thru the sheet and incerting your finger up your anus and useing one swipe then closeing the sheet around the contaminated sheet and wipeing off the residue was brilliant!!!!!!!!!!
how about that brain-drain , it is indeed working , how many ( what% ) of a-mer-e-can will agree with neutered , I say 75% or better , way to go msm you are still selling us out .
John @ 29:
Unions do fire bad workers, they just can't fire them for no reason at all. Before you speak, think. As for the auto industry, the imports have national health care where here the manufactures and the employees have to pay for it. If we had medicare for all, the auto companies could be more competitive. And last of all, there is not an oil shortage. If there was, why aren't they letting it flow out of Iraq by letting them control their oil resources?
sorry contaminated finger!!!!
John @ 29:
A capitalist economy must be well regulated or else we get lead in our paint, toxins in our food, foul rivers and waterways, global impoverishment of workers, and on and on.
What newt and his gang want is deregulated commerce at the expense of the worker and the environment. It ain't gonna wash son.
And, contrary to your statement that unions don't allow you to fire bad workers, it happens all the time.
There has never been anything good happening to workers unless they organize, join up, and fight the fat cats who want it all.
Newt is a scab sucker of the worst kind. He is an elitist, pompous shitheel, unable to feel empathy for anyone but himself and his inflated ego. He is a turd and anyone who thinks he is teriffic should go out and throw themselves over a bridge.
John @ 29:
So you're actually claiming that workers would be better off without unions? Don't read a book from a turd like gingrich. Read a history book.
I'm thinking maybe 4 more years of Republican is needed just to really insure the brain dead to get it that the lot of their problem are because of greed. They can use all the jingle they want to fool ya, but I am afraid that maybe more time is needed to see the result, and not keep blaming Clinton for another 4 years. It is interesting that the new Republican candidate are talking tax cuts, as if they been tax cutting the rich and put the burden on the middle class for last 7 years. Now they want a tax break for the few middle class that are left, and just before the election. They are talking change only for the one year before the election, and thus we get fooled again.
High taxes are destructive, no corporate welfare is destructive and that's what tax cut do, give to the rich and take more from the poor and new poor the former middle class. Denmark has the highest tax and highest people satisfaction with government of the world. Taking care of people is what makes a happy county and taxes are a part of that! So long as the taxes are distrubuted for the good of everyone, then it's not bad. Good schools, roads, parks, medical all that makes healthy people and healthy people are productive! Corporate breaks make one man rich and he takes the money out of the country and don't pay taxes on any earnings made off the backs of Americans. Screw Globilzation it's bad for US"A"!
I don't think Gingrich has ever been to Detroit.
The truth is Gingrich is destructive, as are his "ideas." His policy proposals are often disastrous, and they're offered in bad faith.
Hannity is Newt's illegitimate son on Fox News.
Newt lost credibility. Shove the book; it is too late. American populace is fully awake today.
Step-in-A-lot of s***, just sat there and let newt(he doesn't deserve a capital letter)do his repug rant. He should have been asking him what happened to Michgan while his buddy Engler was running Michigan for 12 years prior to this govenor and had a republican controlled legislature to boot all his term. He also set up the most conservative state supreme court in the country. Although I am not a fan of Granholm, most people forget that Engler lost 365,000 jobs in Michigan before Granholm was elected and left Michigan in the hole to the tune of 5 Billion dollars.
Ron @ 39:
The reason these company's are going under is because of health care, the cost is killing them, we need to completely privatize health care so the price will go down with competition and give people an incentive to eat right, exercise and not have kids that can't afford..
PS it takes an arm and leg to get rid of a union worker, who are guys kidding..
Paul @ 34:
I buried Paul...
Bush the Liar @ 2:
Why do they give this worthless liar air time? Newt is a hypcritical losing failure. He is another person with (R) after his name who has failed miserably. Newt is the problem with the GOP.
Carl Martin @ 51:
Let's ask David Vitter.
John @ 49, You don't know what you are talking about, you are just repeating Urban Myths, unless you have worked in the industry dont open your mouth and let everyone know you listen to Faux news. I personnally have fired (5) UAW members over the years, and yes, it wasn't easy, but then again it is not supposed to be easy, is it? By the way they stayed fired.
The best part of the interview was Newt's first suggestion for what Congress and the President could do: Make english the national language. That's the stuff of real visionary leadership there ...
Newt, is this really the argument you want to make?
"Detroit has gone from a 1,800,000 people in 1950 and highest per capita income in the United States to 950,000 people and it ranks today 62nd in per capita income. And yet nobody want to get up and say…tell the truth. The truth is large bureaucracies are destructive ."Who could be taken in by such a shamelessly spurious argument?
Do you think we can't make a freaking LIST of reasons Detroit in 1950 is different from Detroit today? Good grief, Newt.
After WWII the USA was the last industrial power left standing. Detroit in 1950 had no competition. See the difference, Newt? See how Detroit in 1950 is different from Detroit today?
All right, here you go, Newt, I'll oversimplify this for you, I'll give you a one word answer. Here is the reason things changed - Toyota.
The Japanese saw a niche in the market, cars that would not break down and leave you stranded on the side of the road, cars that were not made according to the business philosophy of "planned obsolescence." Nowadays, Toyota is the #2 automaker. See the difference between Detroit in 1950 and Detroit today?
How much of your work do I have to do for you, Newt, you lazy liar?
Lets be honest... NAFTA did not destroy american jobs at all. the american automotive industry with John Dingell did a number to the Automotive industry. NAFTA has only done a number to Mexico, and CAFTA will do a number to Central America. The UAW didnt take care to want to change, The Japanese automotive industry doesnt have to worry about healthcare at all since its national healthcare there, also they are into innovation, something which are automotive industry lacks. Also lets be honest manufacturing jobs didnt go to Mexico, they went to China....
Why should I listen to this guy,Newt?I not only think he should be attacked for his policy positions but also personally.I happen to think it's important(because you and your ilk play this holier then thou role)that you left your wife when she's sick and in the hospital,or when someone like Dickie Morris is runing around with womens underwear or whatever crap he pulled--YEAH RIGHT,I think i'll get my information elsewhere
57 El Matador, the fighting Chicken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVRgUtgLNI
Is a fighting Chicken like a liberal Fascist?
El Matador, just for the record, we were receiving parts from Mexico well before NAFTA went into effect. Those were american jobs transferred to Mexico.
Newt dares not point the finger to the corrupt layabouts managing our best industries at that time of Detroit's heyday. Says nothing about their inability to produce real change just when the auto industry needed it, during the 70's oil crises. Newt is hot air again, only this time he's regurgitating his air.
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I WISH NEWT WOULD CHANGE HIS HAIRSTYLE.
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Fuddled @ 62, It is more like Flatulence..................
Max-1 @ 63:
I'm sure Phil Donahue agrees.
Newt and his foul mouthed mother ruined Washington with their Arkansas Project conspiracies but not he's a "sage!"
Gingrich conspired to commit genocide with Donald Rumsfeld. He has his own parking spot at the Pentagon, and was DR's "political advisor," who fancies himself a military strategy buff.
He should be hanged with the rest of the pigs who destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives.
Turd Ferguson @ 55:
You beat me to it! This comment made me laugh out loud! What a jerk.
BAC
So, after listening to it again - he compares electing a Democrat to getting hit by a natural disaster.
As for spending, how about the 2-3 billion spent per week to stay in Iraq?
There is no problem in America for which Gingrich is the solution. (Well, barring some pretty rude proposals!)
Change for Newt comes when he gets a new prescription or dosage tweak for his bi-polar illness.
John @ 49:
Can you say “monopoly”? Do you even know what it means?
I'm glad that the Newt used Michigan as his example. Michigans economy has always been HEAVILY dependent on taxes and paychecks provided directly and indirectly by the auto industry. So as the auto industry goes, so goes the entire Michigan tax base.
Now since we live in such a wonderous free market global economy, the auto industries, like so many others, are bolting for "greener" pastures. Also, in the auto plants, the technologies are changing, so that many jobs are phased out due to subcontracting to subsidiary parts makers. These factors have had a terrible impact on the Michigan economy, much of which comes (or came) from Detroit. This is just one example of how free maket capitalism has hurt our society.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/business/yourmoney/01jobs.html?pagewan...
IMO most if not all of our economic problems are due to the failure of capitalism. When businesses, political bodies and judicial systems act only in their own interests, the entire society is at risk. Free market capitalism promotes greed, which has no room for societal altruism, especially in this country ("bootstraps", "personal responsibility" and all that - tell it to the retirees). This attitude leaves us incapable of protecting ourselves from the effects of the now global, cut throat competition that our wonderful AMERICAN corporations have created for themselves. Now they are abandoning us for the aboved mentioned "greener" pastures, when their social responsibility is to do everything they can to save the very society that generated their wealth. But that is NOT in the interest of those who now enjoy the profits of free market capitalism. They are few. Their mega profits support our GDP, giving us the illusion of progress. Yet our infrastructure is decaying, except in selected gated neighborhoods, and for the dwindling numbers who will pay for private services that should be expected nationwide, like communications, electricity, or water, originally supposed to be provided for us by our hard earned tax money. These are resources that were developed using the labor of our parents, grandparents and great grandparents. This society as a whole IS ENTITLED to reap the benefits of generations of hard work devoted to giving susequent generations a better life and increasing the sophistication of our society. Because many of us know that there is tremendous wealth out there, and there are ways to spread it around without hurting any but a few greedy bastards that we never meet, sitting in homes we can never see. They are killing us and they don't care what happens to us. Yet for better or worse, we made them.
John @ 29:
incentive???? bullshit
the incentive is to make sure the stockholders have larger dividends and to make sure that ceo's have bigger golden parachutes....and its eff the employee who has helped you build your buisiness
newt lives in a theoretical world...
we have spent the last 8 years under a theoretical governmnet....the one that says big gov is bad....and where has that gotten us??
uncertain and close to doomed economic situation
and newt is still harping on unions??? please
just what percentage of the american workforce is unionized??
now hurry back to redstate and tell them how closed minded we libs are to bs ideas from a perv
I'm very against capitol punishment but I sure do admire that fine American who,while hanging the NAZIS, cut the rope a little short and instead of snapping the Nazi's neck he kinda just strangled . Not advocating violence just justice.
I can't wait for this miserable POS to die.
Not because I wish him dead, but because I can't wait to see the make-up job they do on him when he's a guest on MTP celebrating the first anniversary of his demise.
There are laws on the books to prevent convicts from profiting from their crimes. That's why you can't buy a Charles Manson CD. I can't wait for the day when Tom DeLay joins the ranks of the convicted. Maybe that will keep him off the cable "news" shows. Newt hasn't been convicted of anything, but if hypocracy or bad taste were outlawed....
Best thing I have for Noot is to not buy his books. That's easy for me having read one once, his alternate treatment of the battle of Gettysburg, and it took me months to get my facts straight again. When that man dies, they'll have to screw him into the ground.
Neocons like Newt like the fact that a global economy helps undermine all the democratically gained advances to the lower and middle classes by outsourcing capital to tyrannical regimes. The CEO class is driven by greed and instant gratification.
The new Newt is no different than the old Newt...and just as bat-shit insane...which makes him a perfect culture of corruption Republican pundit to appear on one of these talk shows.
And remember, Newt is the GOP's "man of ideas". But I have yet to hear any true "idea" from him, other than "cut taxes for the wealthy, reduce all social spending except for defense, screw the liberals, and make me king".
Newt recently praised Hillary, too.
Another reason not to vote for Hillary.
Seriously, the reason businesses and people are leaving Detroit is because of "tax and spend" Democrats?
Those "American" car companies didn't move to lower-tax states. They moved out of the country!
What about the trade agreements?
What about BAD PRODUCTS?
What about CORPORATE GREED?
What about the fact that the populations have been shrinking in cold, snowy shitholes like Detroit, Cleveland and Buffalo for decades now as people flock to more desireable cities?
If you think Democrats suck on the economy, compare the Dow Jones under Clinton to under Bush.
Pretty funny. Both Newt and George Will bashed Michigan for being run into the ground by Democrats, while conveniently ignoring the state just to the east, which was run into the ground by 12 years of total Republican domination.
It's true that Ohio State DOES get to the national championship once in a while, and DOES tend to beat Michigan when the two play. But we're no less a basket case than MI is, and our Republican government was on the take to boot! Of course, it's all flyover country anyway, and our primary isn't until March, so nobody really cares.
Oh, that's right. We're not flyover country.
We're "cold, snowy shitholes"
Amazing you actually accept our income tax contributions.
Real change, circa 1840.
Where is Newt wrong???
Umm, here's a BIG one, for starters: The Democratic governor we've had for just four years has had to deal, first of all, with a TOTALLY Rethuglican-controlled State House AND Senate, who would watch Michigan die a miserable, sobbing death before voting to raise taxes ONE PENNY. THAT's how much they are in thrall to their corporate overlords.
And, just to ram the point home, when Democrats got control of the House in the last election, the Rethug Senate sat on every single budget, rather than allow ANY kind of income-tax increase. THERE's your "big government", "tax-and-spend liberalism" for you. No, really - what we got here in Michigan (I live in Grand Rapids, home of Amway [World's Most Legal Pyramid Scheme]) is just like what we got now with the Shrub Administration, only in reverse: Death Before A Sensible Budget - if balancing it means more taxes for our corporate overlords.
Word to the wise, the rest of you: Vote for Edwards - the only man who's SWORN to take on the corporate overlords. If we don't do that, NOTHING'll ever get better.
(An afterthought: Has the Neuter ever BEEN to Michigan? Read about it in the papers? Seen an actual documentary about it on teevee? Does he know his own ass from a hole in the ground?!)
WEBECELTS @ 48:
Amen to that. I'm not the biggest fan of Granholm either, but that pig Engler left her one hell of a mess to clean up. The Engler administration was Bu$h beta. The Repubs had the Governor's mansion, the senate and congress. It was miserable living here with those bastards in control. Things might be rough now, but at least we don't have those assholes running things anymore.
Oh and BTW, Fuck Newt Gingrich where he breathes.
The most incredible utternace from Gingerich was the "easiest" item [from his list of 15 immediate action items that the American people can agree upon] that Congress and the president could agree upon and enact was...making English the official language of the government! What?! Ya, the Republicans should raise that issue in a presidential campaign season so they can further alienate Latino voters. Let's hope thare is a brokered Republican convention and Gingerich is drafted...
Did anyone else notice how George Will raised his right hand up to his face, awkwardly and with calculation, to mock Hillary Clinton?
I wish Newt would have run!
pissed off patricia @ 32:
reminds me of wal-mart " hi how can i help you ", ( I mean Me , Hi how can you help ME ) hell yea look what "lil" dick ( chain-e did ) happy days are here again , yippie , anyone I'am ready .
n(f)g
P.D. @ 1:
PD, you are an idiot.
What the hell is wrong with you people. Do you even run the numbers on what makes this country function? Do facts even play in your decision making? Have you never had financial gain off of the government? If so, you are as guilty as Newt. So Clinton sticks a cigar up some secretary, you say nothing except "He was a great president", yet you find any excuse to rag on someone who actually knows what the hell he is talking about.
Newt Gingrich bleeds alcohal when ou cut him!
Can I just take this opportunity to point out that when Granholm was sworn into office, she was faced with a lot of problems left over and/or caused by the previous (Republican) governor, Engler, and his band of Repub friends? Of course the auto industry exacerbates the problem, but Granholm has been fought every. step. of. the. way. by this Repub-controlled House and Senate. I'm not her biggest fan, but she's in a very tough position here.
The American people want to see new oil refineries built?
Oh, really?
First I would like to see an investigation of why the majors have been buying up and shutting down refineries for 30 years now. Then I would look into the feasability of reopening some of them - if it were actually necessary.
Far better to mandate a significant reduction in the CAFE standards and reduce our consumption.
I would also like to know why Toyota is selling a pure plug in electric car in Japan and running commercials here about how they are researching how to do that. Time to mandate a return of the electric car and ban incandescent bulbs as the Australians have.
We have plenty of energy - we use it inefficiently.
As to why Detroit auto manufacturers insist on building gas guzzlers, it's because they are cross-owned by the oil companies. Big oil has been using them as a "loss leader" for decades. I read a book "The Rockefellers" that details the Standard Oil break-up and the tentacles the various Standard companies have in our economy (Exxon, Texaco, Mobil, SoCal are only a few of the Standard companies - this book came out in the 70s, has about 1000 pages of small print. I haven't kept up with all the mergers since then.)
Before you invoke NAFTA realize that the Big Three did themselves in by not changing with the times and providing a quality product - they put their cards into SUVs and low quality and lost that hand big time. Also consider the American-based manufacturing facilities of Honda, Toyota, and others. I think Honda and Toyota are doing alright last time I checked.
Newt at least has ideas. You may not agree with any or all of them, but he does put them out there. One of his ideas I personally like concerns the presidential debates. His idea is to have a debate where only one topic is discussed. So you would have a republican and a democrat just debating health care for example for the entire time. I think that format would really open everyone's eyes and provide a much needed respite from trying to distill complicated issues into 90 seconds.
judge chief charly hoarse @ 76:
Treason is still illegal. When the slimy salamander screamed "Wag the Dog" at every effort Clinton made to take out Bin Ladin - making it politically impossible for the President of the United states to pursue a deadly enemy of the country with all available resources, that was treason. The fact that he did it for partisan political advantage, the fact that the whole Lewinski affair was a trumped up nonissue intended to thwart the will of the American people and bring down the legitimate government of the US - especially when we were under attack - was nothing but treason. Newt is very lucky I will never be in a position of power.
tjb @ 74:
Capital punishment is wrong when it comes to common crimes.
Genocidists don't deserve anything; certainly no compassion.
NO further air.
This is how a right-wing elitist uses intellectually dishonest rhetoric to try and reshape reality. It's sick how the MSM commentators like Russert and G-Steph let them get away with blaming unions and "bureaucracies" for rust belt economic melt-down. This is like blaming Iraq for 9-11. It's sick. And it's pathetic that ditto-heads like Gingrich get away with it time and time again.
Newt, the CHANGE that everybody is talking about this year...
is changing BACK to what this country used to be like BEFORE YOUR REPUBLICANS blasted apart the Constitution and STOLE ALL THE MONEY.
Newt, you're missing the point. Take a chair in the back of the room. Your time has passed.
Newt: Once a lying son-of-a-bitch, always a lying-son-of-a-bitch!!
As a proud Michiganian, the reason our economy tanked is simple; Republican sabotage. We had a very vibrant economy during the 90's. So our ultra right-wing legislature and Governor implemented trickle-down economics and promoted off-shoring, and you know how that works-out for the middle class. Massive tax-cuts for companies that still left the state, and a bankrupt treasury (when the economic cycle slowed) were the inevitable results. Sound familiar?
Then, Chimpy was installed (the national economy went south), and the repukes took the opportunity to try and destroy one of the nations strongest and oldest unions. In fact, the repukes put their sites on all the pro-union states in the upper midwest.
Now that the unions are on life support, these GOP bastards are trying to install a "Right to Work" law; which is nothing but "Rovespeak" for undercutting your fellow citizen's to see who will grovel at the feet of corporate america - and work for $2.50 an hour.
As far as our (D) Governor, she still got 57% of the vote against Mr. Blackwater's billionaire brother in law who ran against her, despite the fact that he spent $40,000,000 of his own money running ads 24/7 that started in January! (06'). Considering what she has been up against, (including a repuke Senate majority leader, despite the fact they (R's) only got 46% of the popular vote in statewide Senate election totals), she has managed to keep the economy from going totally under. Not to mention the fact that during the entire campaign, the right-wing MSM was denying reality, and literally cheering for that ass-hole "Evil Dick DeVoss". It was such blatant bias, people were cracking jokes about it.
And now that the entire national economy is headed for recession/depression, these dickheads come out and try an blame everybody else for their own stupidity. Well, I think their dog-and-pony show is over. After they un-gerrymander this state in 2010, the repukes will be lucky to be a 35-40% party for the next 70 years.
Just like everybody else, we realize that we will have a long and painful road to recovery cleaning up after the swath of destruction perpetrated by the Bush administration. Republican policies ARE the reason for our problems, they are NOT the cure! Anybody who hasn't figured this out yet, must be a 24%er, which is all ass-holes like Newt are talking to these days.
Newt, you dumbass. For one, we have a Republican controlled legislator. Second, most of the problems began way before our current governor got in office. 3rd, most of the problems result from federal republican policies.
And maybe Newt should look at a couple things. First, in 1950, taxes, as they say, were 90% on the top bracket. Now they are 35%. Second, the rate of union membership was much higher then than what it is today (something like 7% nationally). So a decline in taxes and a decline in union membership at the same time a decline in the economy.
Explain that jerk.
Newt wants change. Not the kind of change that would fund our schools or stop the insane federal borrowing against our future. Not the kind of change that would prevent a million homes from being foreclosed on or prevent global warming. Not the kind of change that would provide health insurance to all Americans or significantly reduce our addiction to fossil fuels.
No, Newt wants to make English the official language of government!
Isn't that at the top of everyone's wish list for change?
I thought this guy had died and went to hell
As a former Michigan resident, it kills me how the blame for the economic problems there are democratic. The guy that screwed that state up nearly beyond repair was for REPUBLICAN governor John Engler and a host of REPUBLICAN legislatures. I feel for anyone still trying to find work there. Its a rough place. Detroit IS where the industrial revolution went to die. THe place is like a graveyard in everyway.
THEM DAMN LIBERAL UNIONS. !!! And I'm one of them union liberals. Send out Homeland security after me before I spread the liberal free thinking virus.
Come on, Guys named Newt, Mitt, Buzzy, Scooter, Turdblossom ?
Unions and Liberals are to blame. And you know something, He is right about that. Because we let them destroy this country in their Jonah Goldberg fascist dreamword.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT A STAKE IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER'S HEART. NEWTY IS "NIGHT OF THE LIVING RETHUGLICANS"....(DEMOCRAT BRAINS!!!!!!) he is an embarassment to his gender, his family, his party, and humanity in general........... only one thing kills those goddamn creatures. and it aint airtime.
in congress.... it was NEWTY THE HUTT and his cackling little sidekick tom delay... BOTH have been pinched out of congress like the turd from a dog's ass. media outlets that give EITHER of them airtime, damage their own credibility. why we keep hearing from these turds is beyond me.... but tucker has a show still so....... someone still wants to hear their shit.
We should never let our country forget his "Contract ON America" and how he was the architect of hate-speech.
Given the damage Gingrich has done to our political system, I'm furious when he's given a platform to speak. He continues to offer zero value to the discussion and should be ignored.
Here's what newtie's talkin' about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8nU-q5YPRQ
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