Is Huckabee Rapture Ready?
By Nicole Belle Sunday Jan 13, 2008 11:01am
Of all the right-wing figures who have promoted Mike Huckabee's extraordinary political rise from a backwater church to the national pulpit of a presidential campaign--and there are many--perhaps none know the former Arkansas governor and current Republican presidential front-runner better than Jay Cole. A Baptist minister based in Fayetteville, Arkansas, with a right-wing radio talk show of his own, Cole has been instrumental in inspiring Huckabee's rise over more than two decades. Indeed, when Huckabee was the governor of Arkansas, it was Cole who persuaded him to arrange the release from prison of a convicted rapist, Wayne Dumond, who had become a born-again evangelical in prison--the most controversial act of Huckabee's career, which still dogs him on the campaign trail.
I spoke to Cole by telephone a week before Huckabee's surprise victory in the Iowa caucuses on January 3. He was supremely confident that his saintly friend would prevail over the hosts of darkness. "Mike is one of the finest and most gracious individuals God has ever placed on Earth," Cole told me in his thick Southern drawl. "Not only does he have speaking ability, he has the Lord looking over him."[..]
(T)he Huckabee Cole has known and loved for decades contrasts sharply with the sunny figure the media's leading lights have conjured up. According to Cole, Huckabee has connected with voters--specifically, evangelical voters--not simply because he is a charismatic speaker, but also because he shares their apocalyptic world view. As Cole told me, "To date there's well over 139 prophecies that have come to pass exactly as the Lord says. Mike believes those things. Anyone with any Bible knowledge would have to say that this looks like the time. We're so close to the Lord's return."
During the period when Huckabee rose through the ranks of the Arkansas Republican Party to the governor's mansion, Cole became one of the state's most popular right-wing radio personalities. Cole volunteered to me the sectarian views that made his radio show a favorite of Arkansas's far-right fringe. Taking a potshot at Mitt Romney, who is a Mormon, Cole compared the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to the Ku Klux Klan. "As you know from history, their original intent--[Mormon founding fathers Joseph] Smith and Brigham Young--was to take over the United States of America," he said. "They weren't just far behind the KKK in their efforts."
Cole was no more kind to Muslims. "If you think communism's bad, just think what the Islamics are doing," Cole warned. "Those people have no--they're just not human. They're just not human."
I can't think of anything to say to this except that it really, really scares me.
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Bunch of freaks, the lot of 'em!
Religious fundamentalism , be it Christian, Islamic , Hindu or whatever, is not theology . It's a mental illness . For the sake of the vast majority who are secular or responsibly spiritual, these people must be prevented from leading the masses .
Huckabee is an End-Timer, all right.
Bill Clinton was just a good-time-charlie.
Please, America, don't Arkansas yourselves again by voting for this preacher-man.
All extremism is dangerous.
Jesus in his UFO took a u-turn a long time ago when he saw the Haggard, Falwell, Robertson welcome wagon.
“Mike is one of the finest and most gracious individuals God has ever placed on Earth,”
Then why is he running for president instead of out doing good and helping people?
Tell the fellow from the blackwater church the Lord looks over us all. A L L are precious in his sight.
Liberal AND Proud @ 4:
I used to think this too until I realized it was an extremist statement. So now I just say Most extremism is dangerous. :)
Look at the size of that booger!
No, not the one on his finger, the one on his neck.
Calling Muslims less than human, thats very Christian of him....
Republican Jesus would approve!
Well, 30 percent of Americans believed the Rapture would take place in 2007.
So many millions couldn't be wrong!
Here's my theory: the rapture took place sometime in 2007! All the good people were snatched up into heaven and all the poopy heads were left behind.
The poopy heads don't realize they were left behind, and so they will just shrug and figure that the Rapture is Actually going to happen in 2008.
And in 2009. And in 2010 (the percentage will go up to 35 here, it's a round number). And in 2011 (again 35, because the two last numbers are the same). And in 2012, and in 2013, etc.
Throughout history the gloom and doom crowd has huckstered its way to survival and occasionally, fortune. As a variation on the theme of fear it's had an incredible half-life.
Huksterbee is just the predictable outcome when a group of scoundrels conspire over time to mislead the people.
Save us Jesus! No, really. Save us from the wolves dressed as Right-wing zealots!
I think Christian fundamentalists are just jealous of Islamic fundamentalists because Islamic fundamentalists get to treat their women in ways Christian fundamentalists only wish they could.
Christ himself didn't know the time or place of the last day,only God and I believe that was to cut of characters like this from selling end time shit.( FEAR)
I've been praying for the rapture to come for years to relieve us from this plague of rapture-ready fundies. Why isn't their God listening? Why does He hate us so?
I have a book that is filled with these apocalyptic crack pots dating back to Christ's time. Each one I bet, was just as sure that their made up predictions would come true as well but each and every one has proved to be wrong. Anyone that believes Huckabee is just as foolish as those in the past that followed those other nuts.
Filthy Harry @ 8:
yeah, but some extremism is dangerouser than others.
Manufactured self-fulfillments and/or generous loose interpretations, every one of them.
The rapture right is as deluded as any suicide cult. But they're far more dangerous because they're dead set on taking the rest of us with them.
For humanity's sake, we must NOT give this guy a nuclear arsenal.
The LAST THING we need in this country is a president who will try to direct this country into an END-of-DAYS situation.
What does "The Huckster" say about this?
What does Joe Scarborough say about this? THEY seem to be BFF these days. How does he get away with having Huckelbee on Morning Joe just about every other day?? Isn't ANY thinking person in charge of that hen-house at MSNBC?
“As you know from history, their original intent–[Mormon founding fathers Joseph] Smith and Brigham Young–was to take over the United States of America,” he said. “They weren’t just far behind the KKK in their efforts.”
This differs from the Christians how?
Oh and every time I encounter a rapture-ready nutcase, I tell him/her that "The rapture already happened, you were not chosen, and you probably voted for the antichrist. Twice."
bughunter @ 19:
Well maybe not for humanity's sake, but certainly the rest of life on this planet deserves a shot at further evolution.
Everytime I look at Huckabee I am convinced that P.T. Barnum was right!
bughunter @ 22:
Nice!
Maybe they should self-rapture, if enough of them did it God would have to start the rapture, they could force his hand so to speak.
Hi guys, just I thought I will let you know that African American Bloggers are very, very, very upset with Hillary (and that BET guy). Boy did she make a mistake.
Filthy Harry @ 8:
Ok..most. Sheesh...what a nitpick. LOL!
Yea, elect a Christian who will have the worlds largest nuclear arsenal at his disposal who believes Armegeddon is part of the divine plan.
Something about this just has disaster written all over it.
If the fools on the right do not get to the polls in the primary and keep this character from becoming their nominee, they deserve the embarassment he will bring to the party in the general election.
And yes, religious fanatics are insane and not just in the 'I have an imaginary friend that talks to me' way but in the 'I have an imaginary friend who tells me who to kill' way.
Now why isn't Huckabee's beliefs getting front page coverage? This man as president is indeed a scary prospect for all the world. He is getting a free pass like Obama from any real coverage of their policies etc., and getting coverage on likeability and charisma alone. When asked questions on TV he won't give direct answers, he constantly likes to belittle and demean his opponents while feigning laughter or jokes as he gets his digs in.. and I keep hearing anout him continuing to preach on Sundays and rallying all the churches to get behind his candidacy. He also knows exactly how to play the media..I was going to go negative, but now I am not ..but I will show you what I was going to say so you can all report on it and show it on your airwaves at no cost to me anyway.....
This election coverage of yours is so skewed it is unreal!
For the sake of argument..
How far can we go in associating the statements and beliefs of every supporter with the candidate of their choice? What if there are some extremist black militants that support Obama - would that portend something grave for his presidency?
I'm a lifelong Dem and despise Republicans and how they have destroyed our countries economy and reputation. But if Hillary and Bubba don't stop their most recent shenanigans I'm going to vote for Huckabee.
LOL
I have been saying for months that the huckabee campaign is very very dangerous, and if successful may lead the country into a christian theocracy. This article is just another example of why I hold that view.
Those who believe in the mystical things huckabee does, actually believe as he does - that he will guide them to, and through, the "end times".
Scary as the version of "hell" they espouse...
please, for christ's sake, can we have a president that doesn't think the world is gonna end during his tenure...
i mean, what's a quadrillion dollar debt if Jesus is gonna come and forgive the debtors???
what's a coupla few extra wars if Jesus is gonna come and raise all the wonderful people out of their graves???
and what's the point of health care if Jesus is gonna come and heal us all???
personally, i would prefer someone who thinks Capt Kirk is real...
i would prefer someone who really does believe the Matrix is reality...
i would prefer anyone who is not going to put it all in God's hands....
there used to be an expression: God helps those who help themselves.
how about we take care of our own futures... how about we take care of this planet...
how about we take care of ourselves and our children...
Ex-Canuck @ 34:
Seeing the way the Dem party is being fractured and fragged over this idiotic Clinton-Obama game I wouldn't be shocked if we do get a President Huckabee in 09.
"In the end, Religion will kill us all..."
-- Ed Krebs
H.E.R.B. - Had Enough Religious Bullshit
http://edkrebs.com/herb
"Is Huckabee Rapture Ready?"
Is Blumenthal's dad a drunk?
Seriously though folks Rapture bunny's can be a scary doomsday cult types.
L.A. Confidential @ 36:
Now I see why Cole likes Huckabee. Cole controls him. Cole is the same man that Huckabee listened to when he paroled Wayne Dumond. According to Wikipedia, Dumond murdered and raped Carol Sue Shields after he was paroled by Huckabee. I wonder who Cole suggests Huckabee pardon next?
Ex-Canuck @ 39:
Sorry LA, I inserted my paragraph "Wish the..... wont." into your words. Didn't mean to..- Ex--Canuck
Think I will agree with Jim on at least this paragraph. I don't agree with everything he writes but he's damn close on a lot of things.
"But despite what we tell ourselves about our specialness, we're not immune to the forces that have driven other societies to extremes. The rise of the Nazis, the Soviet terror, the "cultural revolution," the holocausts and genocides -- these are all things that can happen to any people driven to desperation."
I think this merits someone asking Huckabee whether he thinks Muslims are human.
stevo @ 10:
Just curious - anyone out there know of a religion that's as obnoxious as Christianity? What other religion do you see plastered on bumper stickers, t-shirts, and billboards? Anybody been told by a non-Christian religious person that they were going to hell (or wherever) because they didn't share their religion?
I'm serious; this isn't meant to be rhetorical. Maybe in another country, at least one I've never visited.
I have to say that, having been a Mormon for many years, the comparison between the LDS Church and the KKK is more apt than you may think. The LDS church, at its inception, was intent on taking over the United States government. Joseph Smith, the church's founder and first prophet, actually ran for the presidency in 1844. And like the KKK, the LDS church--for nearly a century and a half--was an overtly racist institution. Blacks were denied the priesthood, an important LDS office and religious rite, until 1978. There's a long laundry list of racially insensitive statements made by church leaders. I'll let this link suffice: http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml
But I think the comparison between the KKK and the LDS church is hyperbolic nonetheless. My family and most of my friends are Mormon, and they are hardly racists. They are glad that the LDS church has largely abandoned its racist past.
Geraldo @ 11:
Who could have known so many Iraqis were good!
Hey! Who says I'm a poopy head!!
L.A. Confidential @ 33:
I had to clean my screen after that one! Is that a real quote? I've heard myths about people like this, but it can't be real!
Matt in Texas @ 44:
I can't think of one person. I've known hindus, Muslims, Bhuddists and the like but not one has tried to shove their faith down my throat.
Wasn't it printed that Hucklberry only went to seminary school for one year and never finished? How can one become a Baptist minister if the requisite courses aren't done?
And the big question, did he pass IB101 (Imaginary Being)?
More proof that Rethugs are fake religious thugs.
I read that article this morning. Huckabee also wants Israel ethnically cleansed of Palestinians.
All rapture freaks should take that magic black pill, drink the Jonestown-flavored kool-aid and board that last ship to rapture-ville.
Joe O. @ 48:
Likewise - and I think that is a very telling observation!
StirFry @ 47:
I think the Swift Boaters have launched a massive internet blog campaign to defeat Hillary.
You see lots of stuff like this on Hillary versus Obama threads.
Joe O. @ 48:
Me neither, and I've been exposed to many religions. Anyone else out there with similar experiences?
unfinished @ 49:
Lots of diploma mills on the internet now - though at the time there was no internet. Most certainly, his was a "bought" degree, if indeed he only attended for a year.
“If you think communism’s bad, just think what the Islamics are doing,” Cole warned. “Those people have no–they’re just not human. They’re just not human.”
hmmm reads differently with a different religious group...lets say perhaps...
“If you think communism’s bad, just think what the Jews are doing,” Himmler warned. “Those people have no–they’re just not human. They’re just not human.”
now where have i heard that before 8)
The first step in allowing yourself to commit a horrible atrocity: convince yourself that your potential victim to inhuman.
Oops, I meant *is inhuman*. Sorry.
Religion is not a mental illness. It's a form of mental compartmentalization.
When a mother believes, in defiance of all evidence, that her son couldn't be murderer, because "he's a good boy!", that's not mental illness. That's refusing to accept facts because you have an emotional investment in not accepting them. You maintain cognitive integrity the only way you can -- by refusing to integrate certain facts into your framework.
Attacking someone's religion is like telling some that their child is a bad child, or that their race is inferior, or that the person they're in a relationship with is an abusive spouse. If they have a personal investment in not thinking about it, then they're not going to think about it.
For more background on Mike Huckabee the dangerous extremist and radical reactionary, see:
- "Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
- "10 More Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
L.A. Confidential @ 54:
They must hire people in their 80's and 90's to to work at home.
Joint the winners! Make spare money at home!
I'm not a religious person, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night and tore up the pornographic book that was in the desk drawer. Then I read my Hustler magazine.
Eric in Ottawa @ 58:
And also believe, that you are doing gods will.
Clavis @ 60:
Logical analysis - I have noticed this in my experience with evangelicals.
With views like these, Cole is no different than Muslim mullahs spouting off diatribes against the West and other 'heathen' religions.
Thankfully there are only so many religious retards out there who are dumb enough to play into this god shit.
Personally I'd be glad if shmuckabee won the reslug candidacy because he's such a stupid, worthless, hypocritical piece of elephant dung that his presence alone would guarantee the dems the white house.
He even makes reslugs nervous.
Jay Cole was a staple for family jokes when I was growing up in northwest Arkansas.
The dude is a nut. A total nutcase. You should be very, very, very afraid.
Incidentally, he was pretty old and crusty when he'd pay for television spots 15 years ago. I actually thought he was dead.
MargeAggedon @ 67:
People shouldnt underestimate Huckabee even if he is a scumbag. If Hillary gets the dems nomination then theres a good chance he could beat her. He'd have no chance against Obama, but against Hillary, possible.
I've always been wondering, like, what the heck is God waiting for?? Haven't humans screwed up enough over the past eons to make him want to Rapture all of us (poopy heads and all) to outer space and start over?? What will it take for God to intervene? Haven't we invented enough ways to kill and maim, and used them time and time again to destroy good people?? Innocent children? Is God really only going to help out Christians? Jews and Muslims believe in him, too, they just had "special" guys who made up different rules for them?!?
I am an American. I believe in the Constitution. Period.
Matt in Texas @ 44:
Please don't lump all Christians together.
Evangelicals are a subset of Christianity. They simply ignore those parts of Christianity that don't fit into their view of the world (like brotherhood, universal community, universal charity, tolerance and the spreading of goodness), and scream louder than the rest of us.
I think it's only fair to ask the Huckster if HE thinks the Rapture is imminent -- and, if so, who's going to be in charge when he gets sucked up to heaven. (Assuming, of course, his VP would also be Rapture worthy.)
Maybe Glenn Beck will tactfully broach the subject.
Maybe Dumond's murders after his pardon were a prelude to the rapture.
Theres a sucker "BORN AGAIN EVERY SECOND ."
who scares me more a radical christian fundamentalist that believes that the bible is literally true? or a trigger happy, imperialist, chomping at the bit to send young americans to die for corporate profit, and willing to screw the rest of the americans [the ones not sent to die] in order to further enrich the already wealthy?
hmm... not too sure.
i would go out on a limb and say that the REAL GOP power holders--the rich and the corporatocracy--will use their leverage to try to crush huckabee before it would come to hucky winning the nomination.
the GOP ideological fissure is growing, and a mega-earthquake is brewing--with hucky and the fundies on one plate and the neoliberal/neocons on the other.
leftminded @ 73:
Maybe the big guy in the sky told him to do it.
Kill all the extremists!
One of the things about the rapture that always got me was the level of irresponsibility the believers have. The warning stickers "In case of rapture, this car will be unmanned" are inadequate. Were I standing on the side of the street when you suddenly rose bodily to heaven, I wouldn't even be able to see your bumper as your vehicle careened into me. If you believe that everybody can be forgiven, that those who are "left behind" still have a chance at redemption, then you shouldn't be operating any vehicles at all.
Eric in Ottawa @ 58:
Also that your doing gods will.
Samson- @ 75:
Good metaphor. Hope you're right.
Samson- @ 75:
I'm not sure we're really dealing with an either/or choice here. Bush ran as a Christian evangelical (as much as a farce as that may be) but that worked out quite well for certain segments of the corporate elite (hello Cheney). We're really talking about fascists of two different flavors (corporate vs. religious).
I think the "REAL GOP power holders", as you call them, are probably just as willing to exploit Huckabee if he can muster the support of the relatively small percentage of blind faith evangelicals. Concentrate all the power, then grab it and redirect it.
samson- prediction # 165:
huckabee will have the entire GOP establishment coming down on him hard and they will mccain-south-carolina him, somehow.
but, again my prediction, he will be asked to be the running mate of the GOP candidate. and, if i am correct (not holding breath), that ticket will be a very, very, very strong ticket.
Joementum @ 79:
Lets just hope dems don't destroy themselves before the repugs regroup around one of their god fearing morons.
Samson- @ 81:
Ugh. Unfortunately, I could definitely see this happening.
Damn Jesus is cool and not like these nuts. My very favorite story is John 8 v 1-10 and if you're still with me bring it up to current times instead of scribes and pharisees insert Cole ,Huckabee, Gingrige, Livingston, Bush and Santorium as they press Jesus to become a stoner like they are. He never answers them directly except to tell them to clean up their act. Now the cool part he starts writing in the sand,it doesn't say what he wrote but my guess is something like Livingston's mistress name, Gingrige,s wife's name who he left when she needed him most and Carla Fay Tucker whom George had a good chuckle as he dispatched her and when he looked up damn they where all gone. Then he asks the woman were did they go like she would have a clue and shows mercy.
Christ was killed by a religion's political agenda.
Yes he is. And Jesus, He's ready. They're ALL ready. Come take them away already....
What a paradise on earth the world would be if everyone of these dumbasses disappeared...
Save me Jebus!
Bellesouth @ 68:
This guy has a radio show here in Arkansas... crap... I may have to listen (I need a good laugh every once in a while).
My favorite Huckabee shuck is when he talkes about getting the goverment out of folk's lives. Hey, Mike, how about you get your government OUT OF MY UTERUS?
Eric in Ottawa @ 80:
you are correct, if the GOP masters can control hucky and use him like a sockpuppet (see, dumbya), then we have a more skillful/better speaking/smarter/more likeable bush on our hands. and that equals trouble.
question is: is hucky as malleable (see, willing to be a stooly) as bush, or does he really believe in the econ populism he has chatted up?
Eric in Ottawa @ 83:
The otherside of this is, if dems don't implode, and the base votes along with independents, progressives and minorities, it won't matter who repugs run.
revive the snake handlers ans incourage the kool aid drinkers , admire the followers who wish to join in on the tails of comets!!!!!!!!!! jasus is waiting!
tyree @ 92:
Amen.................
Somehow, I have trouble with the concept of 'Christ Dying For Our Sins' as meaning 'Let's Just F--k Up The Planet, God Will Forgive Us Anyway'.
The Rapture is ridiculous, zero-sum theology that consists more of childish scoreboarding (you're going to helllll nyah nyah neener neener) than respecting or showing homage to God's Creation.
Gary @ 69:
Well considering the current brain dead, god fobbing jackass at the helm you could be correct. But if the election went forward with no interference [wouldn't that be nice] he wouldn't stand a chance.
"To date there’s well over 139 prophecies that have come to pass exactly as the Lord says."
139 you say? such an exact number. why not just round it off... ok, i'll bite, list 'em for me please.
when you are done i'll go ahead and list the 10,000,000 biblical claims (i rounded it off) that are 100% fiction...
ready..... GO!
Liberal AND Proud @ 4:
Thank you!....you said it all. Right,left,up,down,black,white...I know people I call RWE, (right wing extremists)...they want to kill thoes who don't see it their way, (shoot illegal aliens) etc. Some religions want to do the same. These are...'dangerous people'.
True Story:
I was watching an Air-Show in Fayetteville and a man standing next to me with his adult son turned to me and said, "This is really something isn't it?"... Hearing this man's finger-nails-on-chalkboard voice I knew immediately who he was.
(For years now I have, from time to time, been witness to Jay Cole's armageddon voice and ashen face blaring on my television screen during a commercial break telling me that God isn't happy with the way we are living, etc. and that he will return and we will be caught unaware unless, etc.)
I replied to Jay's comment, "Yes. It's miraculous!" After a moment of trying to read my tone Jay and his son both turned
on meto me and said, "hi. I'm Jay Cole." and without missing a beat he said, "Do you go to church around here, son?" To which I replied, "Jay, I don't go to church around here or anywhere and if I were to go to church around here it certainly wouldn't be yours."His son took his father's arm and they marched away with a rather stunned look on their face and I continued watching and filming what turned out too be a rather impressive show of human skill.
What the hell has become of our country that a guy like this could even qualify to run, let alone have some chance at becoming the next president of the United States? The bar has been set so low that you have to dig down six feet to find it.
pissed off patricia @ 99:
This is what we get, when you mix peoples fairytales with politics.
Samson- @ 81:
Ooo - hadn't thought of that. That IS scary. :(
pissed off patricia @ 99:
A country is a reflection of its leadership.
glad i'm not the only one: "This is some of the scariest shit I've ever seen. If this man is elected, we are heading toward a fundamentalist theocracy on a scale that will make Iran seem like Waldon Pond."
Dear "Godless Secular Progressive", "Far Left", "America Hating" Moonbats:
All christians are not like Mr. Jay Cole, Some don't even call themselves evangelical. Now please go back to "blaming America first", OK?
(sarcasm)
Samson- @ 90:
This is why we need the GOP broken into more plates. If Ron Paul can hang around long enough and continue separating the old-time/Goldwater/libertarian conservatives from the neocons, then the party really will go up in smoke.
Go Ron Paul.
Now there is the kind of thoughtful comment that goes a long way toward Genocide on a scale the world has not yet seen.
his name is huck.
huck huckabee.
and he's a jesus man.
Liberal AND Proud @ 102:
So there is no chance whatsoever that the media and the national security complex and the voting "process" could have any influence?
RAPTURE????? Oh, don't get me started. Talk about fairy tales. The guy (Cole) smeared the biggest religious group behind Christians on the face of the Earth. Muslims don't like being put in the same category with extremist. Muslim Extremists are to Islam as the KKK is Christianity. That's like saying if you are Christian that automatically makes you a Klansman.
Samson- @ 96:
It can be done... but it's a matter of interpretation. Most of those prophecies are about Jesus himself (the prophecy of his birth, ministry, death, resurrection) from the Old Testament.
People like Cole, Jack Van Impe, and Hal Lindsey will constantly re-interpret the Bible to suit their needs and to fit it into context of current events.
Lindsey (author of "The Late Great Planet Earth") really started the modern trend of apocalyptic prophecy back in the 70s and he's been pretty much wrong for around 30 years. Lindsey has done Christians a great disservice by continually pushing this and is one of the reasons why I no longer call myself a "Christian."
I'm not a violent person, but if I saw Lindsey crossing the street while I was driving... I may not slow down.
so many Scofield Bible cultists so little time
Cole was no more kind to Muslims. “If you think communism’s bad, just think what the Islamics are doing,” Cole warned. “Those people have no–they’re just not human. They’re just not human.”
Just like Germany and the Jews back in the 30's.....
A reporter from the Village Voice went on the campaign trail with Huckabee. He said that he looked oddly deflated, like a day-old balloon, because of all the weight loss, I guess. He also said Huckabee reminded him of a muppet, kind of soft and squishy with bright little eyes. He had to keep looking at Huckabees hands to make sure he had more than three fingers.
Because of the stomach stapling (or whatever procedure he underwent to deflate) he can't eat meals but survives on specially prepared little snacks that he ingests every couple of hours.
With Huckabee's end-times beliefs and poor grasp of politics in the "outside world", the reporter came to the conclusion that Huckabee was "batshit crazy".
Perfect.
I don't mind faith informing an individual's views on public policy, but why does it have to be the Rapture? Why not dedicate 2008 to feeding the poor, inspiring healing, or seeking peace instead of fantasizing about Armageddon? How's about we try that whole 'praying to God in private' thing as opposed to 'out loud as the hypocrites do'?
I mean, what's the difference between a guy who blows himself up thinking he's gonna go to Paradise and get it on with Britney x70, and a bunch of extremist Christian types seeking the end of the world so they can be whisked off to Heaven and party on in eternally 30-something bodies?
To me, bush is batshit crazy. What word describes someone crazier than that?
Filthy Harry @ 14:
I think you're probably right.
Shadowgm @ 114:
I have ask your last question in your post many times and I still haven't found a good answer.
Wasn't it Huckabee who said that women should be subservient to their husbands?
I think he uses his jokey self to hide what he really is inside. That's the scary part. He knows he has to hide his true self in order to get what he wants.
Ex-Canuck @ 53:
I can't think of any either.
pissed off patricia @ 117:
i'll take a stab *clothes himself in holier-than-thou garb of robes, sashes and sandals*
there isn't any money in feeding the poor. and they are unconcerned about "inspiring healing." again, no money in that either.
capitalism is the mainstay of 21st chrisitianity. and when biblical teachings run afoul of uber-capitlalism, the bible is tossed aside.
Phuck Huck.
“As you know from history, their original intent–[Mormon founding fathers Joseph] Smith and Brigham Young–was to take over the United States of America,”
That much is TRUE, in that Brigham Young famously told his followers that the Civil War was the end times, and that North and South would utterly destroy each other, leaving the nation empty for LDS repopulation.
Which is part of how they justified bushwacking all those wagon trains.
Read 'Under the Banner of Heaven,' by Jon Krakauer, if you don't know the history. It ain't pretty.
Samson- @ 96:
At that rate, He is lagging behind Nostradamus by at least twenty or thirty prophesies.
Maybe it's been an off-millenium. Even the Best Deity is off His Game from time to time. Or, it could be the Steroids.
I am so fu(%ing sick of hearing alleged adults talk about their imaginary friend jeebus.
hockaloogy is ready for this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHPikUPlRD8
I wish I was.
L.A. Confidential @ 62:
Yep , via ads in the back of National Review and its sister publication the National Enquirer.
It's shit like this that makes me wonder if the Rapture hasn't already happened and no one was worth God's time to take up to Heaven. All I have to see is a Left Behind book on someone's coffee table and I know exactly what I'm dealing with.
Wilton also believes that Jesus subsumes the Constitution of the United States. Here's what he said at the Sourthen Baptist Convention just a year and a half ago:
Wilton delivered the annual convention sermon soon after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spoke to the assembly. He told the Southern Baptist gathering he greatly admired Rice, but he also reminded them they owed ultimate allegiance to God alone.
"I'm going to submit to you that as believers in Christ Jesus, we are not even of America," Wilton said. "We march according to a different drumbeat. Ours is not the Constitution of America; ours is the constitution of the Almighty God."
This is from the Minister of a Church where Huckabee gave a sermon. How can we expect him to uphold the Constitution of the United States when he is associated with people such as Minister Wilton?? Our beloved Constitution has taken a beating throughout this current Administration - can we allow it to be totally trashed in the next?
miss marple @ 128:
Matt in Texas @ 55:
Yes. I was raised Southern Baptist, still attend the Church, cheerfully accept my lack of "faith" will condemn me to roast, yet all my Muslim and Jewish friends are much nicer than the Christians. Not to mention the Atheists and Agnostics. Go figger, eh, since these are supposed to be the "Holy Nicey-Niceness" people. As for the "Heavenly Citizen" bit, I've noticed that just now increasingly in the Church's Sunday School material. It disturbs me. Last time somebody wanted to establish a "Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace" millions died in a bloody Civil War. We are most likely headed down that same path.
YHWH save us all.
Why would anyone be "scared" of these people? As the Bible says: Laugh them to scorn. These people believe that the universe is less than 7000 years old. How can anyone with a brain, not to mention a heart, take them seriously? There's plenty in this world to be scared of. Meat heads and clowns shouldn't be on that list.
Love is God. All else is bs.
Yes, our folly is leading to the rapture.
Our downfall and division is causing others to conquer and control us.
Only G-d help us.
Shadowgm @ 114:
Britney times 70...if we could only convince the the extreemists to believe that that would be their reward for suicide bombings they would cease immeadiately.
Simple cure for an insidious illness: Ban all religious leaders and mouthpieces from holding public office. There problem fixed.
I've come to the realization that all this stuff we complain about everyday.....war, injustice, etc will always exist until religions like Christianity and Islam are exposed for the frauds they are.
There is so much to be scared about around here,that I have developed a certain fatalism that is so hard to shake. From My viewpoint,the prospect of Huck becoming president is no more silly than Bush being president Twice.And,truthfully,having an election At All is about 50-50. The Thugs could just shut it all down and who's to stop it? Hope is my favorite word,but the last 7 years have eroded My faith(pun intended) in that feeling.
Astral Technician @ 130:
I laughed at Bush the first time I saw him. I said,'Who would vote for This Clown?' Silly Me. Be afraid,pal. Do not at your own peril.
Raised a southern baptist. So, all you all are going to hell anyway. (everyone who 'had a
chance' to be Southern Baptist, but did not .... and when they say, 'had a chance' means
if you were breathing)
the LEFT BEHIND series is my favorite junk. I love that they are making money hand over
fist with it. Poor saps! The really sad part is they consider Left Behind...well its 'GOD inspired" so its almost like SCRIPTURE...and that was INFALLIBLE! Cool.
I, personally, lost my faith in Southern Baptist (ism?) when my sunday school teacher
got mad at me for challenging his assertion that the moon shone of its own light. I was
about 11 years old. I still have all the old scars.
Huckabee is like a nightmare for me. Its like all the worst of the republicans mated with
my childhood preacher and I KNOW THAT HELLS TO PAY!!!! Of course he spouts off in
words of COMPASSION and KINDNESS but that just means that he will happily
Nuke/arrest/torture an unbeliever and convince himself and his congregation that
its all being done for the 'GOOD' of the victim. Scary as (literally) HELL.
The only thing to do is put Jay Cole and his wacko 'Rapture 'n Racism' on tape, and make campaign commercials of this swill!!
Show the ignorant, deluded bastards for what they are.
That's a good piece. Hagee was on Fresh Air last year. A scary guy.
David Hawes @ 135:
By a votefraud system we have mostly dismantled/are in the process of dismantling.
Bush has burned the R party to the ground. There has been progress, even with the coup.
Rev. Cole/ Gov Huck...When you guys are taken up could your leave your keys in car. Thanks.
Paul in LA @ 140:
No direspect,but that has yet to be proven to Me. I won't be convinced until I see a Dem standing at the podium come a year hence.
I could write many, many comments on this, but I will stick to the one that initially jumped into my head. I have met Jay Cole. As an EMT student in Northwest Arkansas in the mid-90s, Mr. Cole came into the ER one day with his wife. Having gone to college there, I knew who Mr. Cole was. I knew of him as a crazy, right wing bigot who supported anti-government militias, among other things. I felt an odd chill when I met him, and realized just who he was. Here is what is fascinating about this man. In person, he is charming, down-to-earth, and about as normal as anyone you would meet. Of course, our conversation did not veer towards any topic that could become controversial, but it still really stuck in my mind. Partly because he conveyed news of a horrible tragedy that had struck my hometown earlier that day, that I did not know of until he told me, and partly because he was so different than I expected. I write this not to say that he, or Huckabee, are anything less than the nutjobs everyone on this site (including myself) believe them to be, but merely to reflect on a moment in time, when I saw the humanity and decency in a person who, otherwise, seems to be utterly lacking in both. I realize that this is not a unique characteristic, and that many sociopaths have similar personalities in person, but Jay Cole is the one that I have met, and that I can give a first-hand account of.
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I wear loafers so can be Raptured quicker.
"Bring it on" to quote Chimpy McFlightsuit. If the Rapture happens soon, we don't have to listen to Huckleberry anymore and we can divy up all the Righteous folks stuff. If the Decider disappears, who want Iraq? Surely nobody wants his "ranch" even though all the brush, surely, is off the place by now.
Actually its been reported pretty thoroughly that Huckles finished only one year of seminary school and dropped out never to return. He received no degree in theology and had to stop making that claim as I believe he was finally confronted with his lie. There is no requirement of education to be a protestant minister last I knew, in fact for the evangelistic sects, the less education the better.
Huckles ran a horrible administration in Arkansas, he is not well liked there. He has been shown to have been dipping into the government treasury for personal expenditures for himself, his family and his wife. He also didn't really do much of anything ground breaking or exceptional, showed a really poor handle of the complexities of government and was led by the nose by far right wing loons (such as the 'recommendation' that he followed that he pardon the serial rapist who went on to kill a woman based on silly Clinton myths).
He's a fool and a dangerous fool with a lot of dangerous people standing in the dark behind him, much like George.
I don't get the logic of these rapturites.
It's my understanding that suicide is verboten in all of the Christian faiths if one wants to ascend to the holy hereafter. Wishing on the Rapture and pursuing shortsighted global policies of pollution the planet and armed mayhem with the hopes of igniting said Rapture is suicide and mass murder rolled into one. Good luck being welcomed into the heavenly fold with that on your judgement day resume.
I am rendered speechless, the insanity has escaped the beltway and found it's unrelenting way into our homes 24/7. I can write nothing that makes it past my anger so here is this; Is Huckabee Rapture Ready? just get the visual of the huck, Pat Roberson, their wives all floating up to heaven....buck ass naked. all reflective surfaces twisting in torturous agony.
Cole is nothing but a scumbag,inbred,racist mother fucker.He's a perfect exemple of what happen when somebody weds his sister.I hope you rot in hell you Nazi SOB.
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