You're too easily offended.

Steve Charb @ 1:

You're too easily offended.

Of course. There's absolutely no reason to be offended by an entirely artificial 'sudden demise' and 'miracle comeback' and media that continues to obsess over Barack's middle name (while forgetting the late King Hussein of Jordan), John Edwards' hair, or Hillary's laugh.

There's certainly no reason to be offended by a comparison to a film villain, particularly a psychologically unbalanced, knife-wielding one.

But cast the merest aspersion in the general direction of Bush, and you get throngs of automatic patriots and accusations of being 'Bush haters,' disloyal to the core, and suggestions you should be tried for treason or enabling al-Qaeda.

Steve Charb @ 1:

You're too easily offended.

Who said they were offended?

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 4:

No First Lady has ever received such disrespect. It's amazing. Barbara Bush was/is a much bigger bitch than anyone, yet no one ever made jokes about her balls hanging out of her skirt or compared her to a movie villain.

No, they compared her to the guy on the Quaker Oats box.

I'd still do Monica.

myiq2xu @ 7:

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 4:

No First Lady has ever received such disrespect. It's amazing. Barbara Bush was/is a much bigger bitch than anyone, yet no one ever made jokes about her balls hanging out of her skirt or compared her to a movie villain.

No, they compared her to the guy on the Quaker Oats box.

Really? On The MacLaughlin Group. Supposedly serious pundits on The McLaughlin Group (or any of the Sunday news talk shows) said Barbara Bush looked like the Quaker Oats box?

Or was it hack comics on crap standup showcase programs? And you can't tell the difference?

here's a hint, if, while you're watching the program, you're hung over, embarrassed and desperately trying to remember the name of your date, it's probably sunday morning.

Back on-topic, I thought it was kind of an unfair douchey comparison when I saw it yesterday, too. If you had to draw a comparison, and since the political race IS a race, a competition, I'd think a sports analogy - Rocky, Miracle, hell even the Mighty Ducks - would make more sense. She's down, but not out. Beat down, but not beaten, and she's still going.

Makes more sense to me than a "Oh, my God that crazy bitch Just! Won't! Stay! DEAD!!!" comparison.

But then again, I don't fear Hillary, I'm not some attention whore trying to think of something to say on network TV, and I'm not a big republican pu$$y. That may make a difference.

If Crowley is going to make that comparison then I suppose its safe to compare John McCain's comeback to a rising from the grave zombie like the ones found in the movie The Night of the Living Dead or maybe even the Crypt Keeper.

Who is this insignificant slag and why is McClaughlin still on ?

tyree @ 14:

barbara bush ? you mean the grand old gal of shitbags? the wortless piece of crap who dropped george w bush from her nether regions? the old fartbag who said katrina victims beniffited from looseing thier homes thier familys thier pets just because they ended up in the shithole of houston texas

That's the one.

Who watches the McLaughlin Group anymore? You can't learn a damn thing with everyone shouting and cutting each other off with school yard taunts.

As for Monica Crowley, any relation?

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00158/images/crowley1.jpg

tyree @ 14:

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 4:

No First Lady has ever received such disrespect. It's amazing. Barbara Bush was/is a much bigger bitch than anyone, yet no one ever made jokes about her balls hanging out of her skirt or compared her to a movie villain.

barbara bush ? you mean the grand old gal of shitbags? the wortless piece of crap who dropped george w bush from her nether regions? the old fartbag who said katrina victims beniffited from looseing thier homes thier familys thier pets just because they ended up in the shithole of houston texas, what a grand old gal, shes the yellow rose of texas,

Jabba the Hut with pearls.

Question! On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being non-existent and 10 being universal certitude, just how dumb a bitch is Monica?

Eleanor Clift: I'd say a 4.

Tony Blankley: 6

Pat Buchanan: 8

The correct answer is 9.7...bye bye.

Monica Crowley is a joke. When she was on the Daily Show she had the balls to say George Bush could become the best president ever, she was practically laughed off stage. When she use to share a program with Ron Reagan JR. She always spouted her right-wing crap. Totally laughable!

I find Monica Crowley to be particularly noxious among the right wing blowhards I am aware of.

During a radio interview with Conrad Black I heard a couple of weeks ago (taped apparently sometime in the beginning of 2007) - beyond sucking up to him about how hard it must be to endure the hardships of being on trial - Crowley was interviewing him in relation to a biography of Richard Nixon that he had recently written or published.

The most infuriating statement within the interview (and there were many) was a statement by Crowley about how Nixon was essentially dragged down by some lunatic fringe of the Left, that it was some vendetta, that the conspiracy was out to get a decent man.

If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.

These are harsh words for a man only recently canonized by President Clinton and my old friend George McGovern--but I have written worse things about Nixon, many times, and the record will show that I kicked him repeatedly long before he went down. I beat him like a mad dog with mange every time I got a chance, and I am proud of it. He was scum.

Hunter S. Thompson

Among many unbelievably cynical and infuriating tactics of the current conservative punditocracy, the effort to simultaneously revive Nixon's reputation, and cast him as a closet liberal to be smeared from the right is one of the truly disgusting ones. And she is one of the proponents of that.

My hope is that these pundits wake up in a parallel universe where everyone in the media is putting them under a microscope and making glib jokes about them 24/7 and making vast sweeping assumptions about their personal lives and families. Actually, the first pundit I hope that happens to is Tweety.

Ruthless People @ 21:

tyree @ 14:

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 4:

No First Lady has ever received such disrespect. It's amazing. Barbara Bush was/is a much bigger bitch than anyone, yet no one ever made jokes about her balls hanging out of her skirt or compared her to a movie villain.

barbara bush ? you mean the grand old gal of shitbags? the wortless piece of crap who dropped george w bush from her nether regions? the old fartbag who said katrina victims beniffited from looseing thier homes thier familys thier pets just because they ended up in the shithole of houston texas, what a grand old gal, shes the yellow rose of texas,

Jabba the Hut with pearls.

I remember when Cokie Roberts said about Barbara Bush that she was “beloved” - pronounced in three syllables:
“be -lov -ed”. I wanted to tear my hair out.

tyree @ 14:

DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 4:

No First Lady has ever received such disrespect. It's amazing. Barbara Bush was/is a much bigger bitch than anyone, yet no one ever made jokes about her balls hanging out of her skirt or compared her to a movie villain.

barbara bush ? you mean the grand old gal of shitbags? the wortless piece of crap who dropped george w bush from her nether regions? the old fartbag who said katrina victims beniffited from looseing thier homes thier familys thier pets just because they ended up in the shithole of houston texas, what a grand old gal, shes the yellow rose of texas,

Hey Tyree,

Yeah, that's the one - the one who even called Hillary a "..I don't want to say it, but it rhymes with witch" during the 1992 campaign. Can you imagine how much shit Hillary would've gotten if she would have said that about Barbara? Of course, it's always OK for Repigs to say shit like that, because they're the party of Jay-sus.

ReBorn @ 26:

Women are the bottom rung on the totem pole.
They were last in line to even get the vote - decades after all men, white and black, had secured the vote.
Difficult to believe, but true.

Depends on what you mean by "secured," ReBorn.

Blacks in the South waited a great many decades longer to "secure" the vote than women, no matter what the Bill of Rights says.

Liberal AND Proud @ 31:

This whole discussion about personal attacks against Hillary is at times silly.

First of all, the "attacks" on her are coming from the same people they've always come from...the GOP and the right wing that despise both her and Bill. These are the infamous personal attacks that are being mentioned above.

On the Dem side, I'm sorry...but I just don't see it. Her opponents have attacked her in debates over her policies, but the fact is that those are all fair game. Hell, she's the "experienced" candidate...so she has a track record, and it is fair game in a debate. NO ONE on the Democrat side has brought up gender or race. The fact is...she has. She uses her gender covertly, such as when she "wells up", she uses it when she has Bill attack her opponents (remember...he's not simply a supporter...he's her husband).

She is the one using surrogates to attack Obama over race. I'm not looking to start an argument, I'm merely pointing out what I see. Personally, I don't think either one of them can win a NATIONAL election, and I've said that for two years.

My concern is McCain winning in Michigan, then getting the nomination. Of all the Repukes running, he is the one who will be most palatable to the majority of the party faithful, and will attract the most independents, even though he sold out his vaunted "maverick" title by kissing Bush's ass for the past 7 years.

McCain over Clinton or Obama in a squeaker.

You heard it here first.

In Lies and the Lying Lyers Who Tell Them, Al Franken tells a high-lari-ous story of having to sit next to barbara boosh on an airliner.

Matt in Texas @ 36:

Liberal AND Proud @ 31:

This whole discussion about personal attacks against Hillary is at times silly.

First of all, the "attacks" on her are coming from the same people they've always come from...the GOP and the right wing that despise both her and Bill. These are the infamous personal attacks that are being mentioned above.

On the Dem side, I'm sorry...but I just don't see it. Her opponents have attacked her in debates over her policies, but the fact is that those are all fair game. Hell, she's the "experienced" candidate...so she has a track record, and it is fair game in a debate. NO ONE on the Democrat side has brought up gender or race. The fact is...she has. She uses her gender covertly, such as when she "wells up", she uses it when she has Bill attack her opponents (remember...he's not simply a supporter...he's her husband).

She is the one using surrogates to attack Obama over race. I'm not looking to start an argument, I'm merely pointing out what I see. Personally, I don't think either one of them can win a NATIONAL election, and I've said that for two years.

My concern is McCain winning in Michigan, then getting the nomination. Of all the Repukes running, he is the one who will be most palatable to the majority of the party faithful, and will attract the most independents, even though he sold out his vaunted "maverick" title by kissing Bush's ass for the past 7 years.

McCain over Clinton or Obama in a squeaker.

You heard it here first.

I totally agree with you. McCain is going to be the GOP choice for all the reasons you outlined, and yes...he CAN beat either Clinton or Obama. He will be able to garner enuf "undecideds" based on his being a veteran, his age and experience, his "blandness", which will make him appear "steady" and focused (unlike the current WH occupant), he will also siphon off women voters who will simply not vote for a woman (look at Hillary's demographics with women...she does lousy with "older women" due to her acceptance of Bill's infidelity...and thos women actually VOTE) and if he's running against Obama, he can siphon off enuf of the black vote based on track record (McCain has supported minority programs and is accepted to be at minimum a moderate on those issues).

god, i hate hillary so much

she is like a zombie and everything she does is calculated

honeybunny @ 35:

the most offensive part about this video clip is that woman's shirt!

my god, is it 1983 again and no one told me??

looks like her fashion choices are about as relevant as her assessment of Mrs Clinton.

And she remarks that Hillary has gone to "softer colors" . Now THATS the kind of biting analysis I'm talkin' about !!!

Another typical DUMB, bleach blonde, Reslug whore that is full of hatred and seething with jealousy of Hillary's intelligence and her total lack of.

Isn't she the reason all those "dumb blonde" jokes got started?

this coming from one of the stepford wives.

Monica Crowley is William "the bloody" Kristol in a skirt. Not that the McLaughlin Group shouldn't always be viewed with a "grain of salt", but there have been times, over the shouting, when a moment of meaningful conversation might break out. Although I haven't seen the show with her on it, I don't need to. Pre-programmed winger talking points never change, and are available elsewhere on Faux, on-line, and in bookstores.

I never thought anybody would make me miss Tony Blankley.

How do we address this verbal putrescence that spews forth daily from these peoples' mouths? When did it become de rigueur to indulge in such hateful, ugly contretemps? Is anyone else out there hoping our public discourse will climb out of the gutters?

It's nice to see an intelligent, mature discussion on television regarding the subject of Ms. Clinton's candidacy. Yeah, right.

If anyone ever finds one, please alert the blogosphere, because I don't think such a thing exists. Liberal media, my a**. Even Dahmer would have found Crowley too bitter for his taste.

Proud American Liberal @ 59:

Left&Left @ 22:

This Monica Crowley is without doubt the most ignorant bitch I have ever heard on PBS. No original thought,not funny or interesting, just a preemptive Hillary hater from the right wing urinal.

She's not even a journalist, just a Commentator. All she has is opinions, and not very informed ones at that. She's a Coulter clone: shrill and stupid.

But with a better rack!!

You know, I wouldn't mind this kind of pathetic dig if it weren't for the fact that this is the kind of wingnut who will jump ugly on the left for saying exactly this fun-loving, chortling, 'harmless' remark. Never, never, never give them a pass or their bone-headedness, because they project it onto everyone else and must be reminded of their asinine punditry's hypocrisy loudly and often.

And frankly, it wasn't even funny. The Right does seem to possess a moronic lack of a sense of humor as a group.

LONG time TMG watcher -- even have my TIVO set to tape it.

This was Crowley's 4th week in a row. I cancelled my TIVO "season pass" for TMG and emailed the show letting them know. She's an insult to the dialogue, the other panelists, AND THE AUDIENCE.

Until she's gone, so am I.

Never thought I'd miss Blankely, but I do.

What's Monica doing with her right hand, showing how she'd spank bad...bad boys?

Using a movie reference when talking about politics. For the Right I can imagine it was more like the shot of the grave at the end of "Carrie" and the hand shoots out of the dirt. Since she's such a boogeyman to them, boogeywoman? Anyhow the Glenn Close reference was pretty nasty, since that character was pretty morally bankrupt and downright evil. I think the Carrie reference, with a nod to the rights fear of anything Clintonian, would have been funnier and more appropriate.

Bryan W @ 70:

ReBorn @ 26:

At this point Hillary Clinton is getting my vote.
To get this much outpouring of bile from the MSM and their buddies in the blogosphere (like the now discredited HuffingtonPost) she must really be something great.

Women are the bottom rung on the totem pole.
They were last in line to even get the vote - decades after all men, white and black, had secured the vote.
Difficult to believe, but true.

Wrong! Blacks didn't get the right to vote until 1965 with the passage of the Voting Rights Act.

First rule.

Never let the facts get in the way.

This is the new way of debating. Spew shit and make people check if it's true or not.

Intellectual honesty is waaaay out of vogue.

I agree - it's highly offensive. What a bitch.

These people definitely see themselves as "king-makers"
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Monica Crowley is like one of those unwanted nosy neighbors, everyone dreads to have nearby.

Trittydi @ 74:

What are this chick's qualifications that her comments matter here?
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Heh heh heh. No...not gonna make me comment...not never...

She looks like an Afghan Hound.

There are plenty of real, bona fide worthwhile stories to be up in arms about. This is not one of them. Her point was obvious: someone everyone wrote off as dead, turned out not to be. Simple as that.

Blonde pundits and right wing idiocy... There is a blonde joke in there somewhere.

An apt description. Karl Rove is a juvenile delinquent compared to the political mastery of the crooks from Arkansas. Many here are taking this comment seriously. Why?

oy. i used to work with monica crowley back at tina brown's talk magazine (right around the time of the 2000 elections).

back then i had no idea who she was or what her opinions were. to me, she was just the super nice lady who sat across from me. and i have to stress the fact that she was really really sweet. i'd even go so far as to say she was probably the most kind, polite and humble person on the entire staff.

so, it's always a shock to see her now on tv, being a great big ignorant right-wing harpy. every time, i just want to scream - noooo! what happened to you, monica!?!?!

I wasn't going to watch it, God help me I promised myself that I wouldn't. Then SHIT I watched it. Okay, the blouse and the hair were ludicrous enough but then she had to go and open her mouth. My head hurts. Ignorance like that is painful to see.

Eh, Crowley is lame but that wasn't a bad line.

I'll give her credit for trying at least.

If anyone else thought Tony Blankley was bad, they'll be thrilled to know that Monica Crowley is worse. There's something so false and artificial about her that you can almost smell the plastic burning at home.

There's nothing wrong with Monica Crowley that a frontal lobotomy won't cure. I suspect McLaughlin only put her on his show because he got tired of looking at that formerly fat Tony Blankley, since Monica is a bit more attractive and she likes to show her legs on cam. The contrast with Eleanor is striking. No one would have Eleanor in mind -- as they might Crowley -- when telling the old joke about why did the dumb blonde sew inflatable shoulder pads into her blouses? (A: To keep from hurting herself when she goes, "I don't know!")