Sorry I couldn't resist.

I don't know if this is OT, but Mittens is projected to win in Mich. McInsane is second and Huck of the living god, is third.

What is NBC afraid of?

Freaking awesome!!!

Mitt will be powerless to stop us.

hillary stfu

Paid reporters, planted reporters, fake reporters
taking orders
Let me help you understanda
Rubber stamped media propaganda

Mislead the people, mislead the sheeple

-Wackiavelli

Hmmm...what could NBC be doing better with the money they are going to spend on the appeal. Real business savvy. Obviously the major networks have forces asking them to exclude. Really, and seriously, there needs to be national legislation that all networks have to give all contenders, major or not, equal time. Not only that, they have to be required to provide 2 to 3 hours of debate on television (not cable) so all can see and make their own choice. It's not like they have any good television shows that would be losing out. They should not be able to commentate afterwards either. There's nothing worse than a spoiled baby, that was given a job they don't deserve, whining about a candidates hair.

Wow, polls just closed 7 minutes ago and they already projected a winner?!

And with only 8% precincts reporting?!

It's criminal to not let the American people hear from all of the candidates. They are picking the president for you. So all of you sheep go and vote for the stooge their choice. The corporates are scared of the real representative of the people. They will never let the voice of Kucinich or anyone like him to be heard. And the ignorant American people will allow them to be swept under the table.

OliverDreams @ 18:

It's criminal to not let the American people hear from all of the candidates. They are picking the president for you. So all of you sheep go and vote for the stooge their choice. The corporates are scared of the real representative of the people. They will never let the voice of Kucinich or anyone like him to be heard. And the ignorant American people will allow them to be swept under the table.

NBC IS WRONG

GO HILLARY

tyree @ 15:

curlyq @ 13:

Can we maybe stop the Hillary bashing so soon and be semi-respectful?

Good grief.

certaily as soon as she stfu

I was simply hoping we'd hold ourselves to a higher standard than the repubs and maintain some semblance of respect for our candidates. Nothing more, nothing less.

On a separate note, I heart Obama.

imauniter @ 6:

What is NBC afraid of?

Anti-corpratism.

budda @ 23:

Damn it

Obama sounds like he is giving up

HIT HER HARD

then again he may be smarter than I and this softer approach may help the woman vote - he doesn't want to polarize like she does

most are smarter than you

Oh god... the Clinton campaign is taking Johnson's word?

That's it- she's disgusting. She knows exactly what he said and what he meant. What a b!@th.

Funny the Edwards and Obama cry for Michigan to vote undecided (for them basically) failed horribly. She is up around 60% of the vote.

I know there are no delegates on the line but it certainly says something.

I wish the DNC had not screwed Michigan. They deserved to have their voices heard.

neamhni @ 28:

Oh god... the Clinton campaign is taking Johnson's word?

That's it- she's disgusting. She knows exactly what he said and what he meant. What a b!@th.

People will remember this. She's either be naive to believe it, or a liar to spread it.

Like most lawyers.......... Edwards made his money stealing from the middle class in the name of helping them out.

and then he says I support the middle class as him and his wife over charge them in the court room

Manila Ryce @ 352:

Ron @ 337:

Manila Ryce @ 323:

mudshark @ 268:

Source of information? And what information would that be? The slight differences between our three "choices" of Nixon's old health care plan? That isn't information. It's a football game where pundits will be talking about who got the upper hand for weeks. No real debate, nothing of substance, and certainly nothing progressive about it. You don't "work at it" by accepting whatever the other side shoves in your direction. That's the same failing strategy the Democrats are using with war funding. The only way to enact real change is to cut off funding. The Democrats will continue their slide to the right (they're more conservative with each election) until they know the Left has the guts not to vote for them. Now I wait for the obligatory moron to call me a Neocon.

I thought you turned it off. How do you know what the questions are or how they are being answered? By the way, who are you going to vote for, another repug?

No need to turn it off. I don't have the channel to begin with. So how do I know what they're talking about? Oh, I guess I'm just psychic. It's kinda the same way that I can predict a contestant interview on American Idol won't delve into issues affecting the world. I've seen enough of these events to know what they're about.

My God, I apologize. I didn't realize I was having dialogue with a physic. Do you also have the power to make me the winner of the lotto? I don't watch American idol so I can't comment on that.

Being an antiwar candidate also includes campaigning against the the bloated military/defense spending-budget.

It is time for the United States to stop spending so much money on defense with all the problems faced here. Military solutions to problems in the world have their limits as Iraq has proved. That should tell you that the money spent on the military is waste wherein that capital would be better spent elsewhere.

Part of the economic problems faced in America now stem from the international monetary mess caused in large part by other nations dropping the American dollar as a result of America's unilateral military policies. Same thing with the big increases in the price of oil. The military posture of America is gonna bring about the demise of the good ole' USA, just as the Soviet Union's intervention in Afghanistan in the 1980s helped in their fall as a great power. Wake up people!!!!

The military budget is the biggest obstacle to America's economic growth today. America has to become an innovator in new trades if it wants to be player again in the world's economic system.

JTM @ 353:

nonbeliever @ 343:

Hail to the Chimp @ 283:

Sany @ 272:

He has to be. Illinois has a lot of nuclear plants.

That's too bad. Kind of along the lines of Biden pushing the bankruptcy bill because of all the credit card companies based in Delaware. It doesn't disqualify him in my eyes, but I seriously disagree with him on this issue. Nuclear power plants aren't a viable solution for the future.

I don't know which came first, Obama's love for nuke plants or his love for Exelon's money, but they seem to be together now.

As to Biden and the bankruptcy bill, Obama also opposed placing a cap at 30% on credit cards. Yep. That's right. Not even at 30% was a cap acceptable. Whether he believed this before the credit industry became his second-largest bundle of donors is beyond me.

Obama voted against a cap that high? Even 30% is usary to me. I think the bankruptcy bill is heinous. I hope we pick up a filibuster proof majority in the Senate this year and one of the first things the 111th Congress does is repeal it. That would be a nice eff you to the credit card industry.

Maybe I'm dreaming, but there are a ton of laws that were signed by chimpy (some under Clinton) that should just be completely rolled back. The Bankruptcy bill and Medicare prescription D do not serve the interests of the American people.

Ron @ 361:

My God, I apologize. I didn't realize I was having dialogue with a physic.

My crystal ball says: "you will lose your next spelling bee."

Hillary should be discussing about missing FBI files and her court cases.

Keeping the military underfunded without building new military equipments.

Raising taxes and thereby having budget surplus.

Scandal in the White House. She cannot wait to create new scandal as soon as she enters the white house.

MSNBC is oblivious and dysfunctional.

Hillary, read this verse: "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

Ron @ 361:

Manila Ryce @ 352:

Ron @ 337:

Manila Ryce @ 323:
I thought you turned it off. How do you know what the questions are or how they are being answered? By the way, who are you going to vote for, another repug?

No need to turn it off. I don't have the channel to begin with. So how do I know what they're talking about? Oh, I guess I'm just psychic. It's kinda the same way that I can predict a contestant interview on American Idol won't delve into issues affecting the world. I've seen enough of these events to know what they're about.

My God, I apologize. I didn't realize I was having dialogue with a physic. Do you also have the power to make me the winner of the lotto? I don't watch American idol so I can't comment on that.

Nope, I can't make you win something you're not in the running for. However, I can predict when we will become a fascist state due to the inaction and complacency of viewers like you. It was years ago.

Mr. XXXX @ 370:

Bateman @ 360:

Mr. XXXX @ 355:

I hope the candidates ask for a moratorium on military/defense spending....its out of control---the spending on the defense industry and military, as the infrastructure and economy of the USA falls apart.

I doubt the candidates will ever talk about the bloated military/defense spending budget. Many of the jobs for the military are outsourced now compared to 20 years ago as well, so Americans are even being shut out of the defense economy.

It is time to wake up people!!!!!

Amen brother.

I like you.
You have balls.
I like balls.

I do? Thanks, um, thanks for the nice compliment....

Sorry, quoting movie lines now, never mind.

Seriously though, I like your thinking.
Right on.

Don @ 368:

Well, xxx, indistinguishable? Tell me, which of the three candidates tonight would have appointed John Roberts or Alito to the Supreme Court?

A. Ruth Bader Ginsberg?

B. The Federalist Society?

C. Edwin Meese?

D. C. Boyden Gray?

E. Ted Olson

F. B, C, D, & E.

Edwards did a great job. MSNBC can go to hell for excluding Dennis. General Electric gets the bozack

Did you answer the question xxx.......or is the Federalist Society as the bullpen for judgeships just fine with you? It is with Rove and the RNC. You want a 6-3 pro-corporate Supreme Court, then just get a Repug in the White House.

MSNBC anchormen look so trashy in front of Edwards. Their low self-esteem is at highest in the presence of Edwards.

Sorry, Mr. Olbermann.

Aren't Rudy and Fred tired of Ron Paul smacking them around?

Chris @ 340:

dontbeaputz @ 31:

Why are they reviewing the latest gossip in a debate? How long will it take before they start talking about actual issues?

Why do you think Kucinich was left out? He wants to talk about actual issues!

Like the Integrity of the Election itself and how it relates to the NH recount that will begin Tomorrow!

Most of the people here know who they are going to vote for, but have no idea how the machines work that "count" their votes, who controls those machines, nor do they seem to care.

Blogs like C&L that cover the campaign, and ignore the serious and fundemental Election integrity issues, are just a new form of MSM, and do the citizenry a disservice by distracting them from the real crooks and liars.

tyree @ 372:

jesus they shouldnt have closeups of billary!

Don't you mean Shrivelary? Or is it Winklary? Or is it 30 year-old-baseball-mitt-llary? She reminds me of Kramer on Seinfeld in the episode where he turns his apartment into a smoking lounge.

"I'm hideous!"

Ron @ 378:

Manila Ryce @ 371:

Ron @ 361:

Manila Ryce @ 352:
My God, I apologize. I didn't realize I was having dialogue with a physic. Do you also have the power to make me the winner of the lotto? I don't watch American idol so I can't comment on that.

That's the second time satire has been lost on you. Please don't make me resort to using tags. They're so undignified for someone of your intellect.

Nope, I can't make you win something you're not in the running for. However, I can predict when we will become a fascist state due to the inaction and complacency of viewers like you. It was years ago.

My God, how did you predict the past like that? You really are good.

budda @ 194:

If this guy in FL is making all his money off dividends than he doesn't need any "breaks" - there are people working their asses off and not sitting home watching their bank accounts grow. I have no sympathy off people who make all their money in investments. I'm sorry.

Good answer by Obama using Buffet again. It is sick that the wealthiest pay less percentage than their workers.

I know the economy is important, but damn it is the most boring subject to debate.

This was answered very skillfully by Obama and I agree, I have no sympathy for someone who's primary source of income is dividends. The guy in Florida will be ok getting taxed at a rate of 35% like the rest of us.

Manila Ryce @ 389:

[Would you two stop flaming each other? Thanks-Sitemonitor]

Just move to Oregon, we have paper mail in ballots.

Roger from Ohio @ 34:

Like most lawyers.......... Edwards made his money stealing from the middle class in the name of helping them out.

and then he says I support the middle class as him and his wife over charge them in the court room

I will bet you've NEVER checked out his stand on any issue. What a lame ass talking point.

Did anyone notice how Barack took responsibility for the conduct of his SC press secretary but Hillary would not take responsibility for Bob Johnson?

OliverDreams @ 18:

It's criminal to not let the American people hear from all of the candidates. They are picking the president for you. So all of you sheep go and vote for the stooge their choice. The corporates are scared of the real representative of the people. They will never let the voice of Kucinich or anyone like him to be heard. And the ignorant American people will allow them to be swept under the table.

Agreed. This makes NBC no better than Fox and their blacklisting of Ron Paul. I wish people would take the same cue and blacklist NBC from their viewing. In fact, just stop watching all the news shows except Olbermann. And in retaliation, put a little donation in Kucinich's pocket. Five or ten buck and going to break many of our banks but if enough of us do it it will be a sign that us progressive support Kucinich even if the MSM refuses to acknowledge him.

One more stamp on the pathetic media in America. And when I was a little kid I used to think the Soviets had it bad. They had nothing on this country today. Pravda is alive and well.

Hail to the Chimp @ 38:

Did anyone notice how Barack took responsibility for the conduct of his SC press secretary but Hillary would not take responsibility for Bob Johnson?

Obama's person is a paid employee. The guy at the Clinton rally was a speaker. There is a difference. You have no control over a speaker but you do have some over an employee

LISTEN TO EDWARDS!!

The PROMISE of America! Stupid tax policy...that gives tax breaks to corporations to move jobs offshore...the powers that hold back UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE

THAT my friends...is POPULISM!!!

Enjoyed the chat....my final image on MSNBC as I turned of the set: McCain's concession speech with Lieberman behind him looking like he needed a physic.

Don @ 397:

Enjoyed the chat....my final image on MSNBC as I turned of the set: McCain's concession speech with Lieberman behind him looking like he needed a physic.

The Dems really need to kick Lieberman out of the caucus after election day. They won't need him.

hareli @ 366:

"BradBlog and BlackBoxVoting will be covering the NH recount. For any that don’t know how the system really works (or doesn’t), they break it down."

Are they physically going to be there?

They are coordinating and consulting with people on the ground in NH, with Bev Harris of the non-partisan BBV, leading the way. They are currently seeking more volunteers to video tape the process. Already they have run into problems with chain of custody issues and some stonewalling from the SOS, which is why there needs to be more focus on this historic recount.

If there is no confidence in the corporate controlled machines that "count" the votes, then all the bullshit up on stage during these debates and on these blogs is just that, bullshit.

IMHO, in a public election, there should NOT be confidence in a private, for profit company, having control over the count through secret tabulation using, secret, proprietary software on their scanning machines.

Romney, and the successful 39% Uncommitted votes include anti-Clinton protest votes. She should have taken over 80. Instead, she's only at 56 on CNN against Dennis. 70% of Michigan's black primary voters voted AGAINST her. Only 22% voted for her. Midd didd win, but not exactly the way he thinks he has. Huck seemed to have a clue on that one. He won on the Rebub side with a curiously similar 39%. (89% reporting)

The protest votes registered rather loudly.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/15/michigan.uncommitted/index.html

Dennis would never be as good to GE as any of these three. And if they're not getting something out of it, why invite a powerless bug to the party.

SM @ 398:

Hillary unmasked Obama as a corporate sponsored candidate for Nuclear Energy.

And Edwards exposed her for bought and paid for by the oil companies. Obama has been open about his campaign financierss

Mr. XXXX @ 380:

Kathleen @ 374:

Still OFF TOPIC at the debates

One of the most critical issues in the middle east one of the root causes of the anger towards the U.S. and MSNBC ignored once again the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Surprise! Why is this acceptable?

Senator Clinton's yes vote for the Kyl Lieberman amendment the amendment which was designed by some of the same people who lied our nation into Iraq. The Amendment that defines the Iranian National Guard as terrorist. The amendment which Senator Webb described as "tantamount to declaring war on Iran". Webb went onto describe this amendment as "Vice President Cheney's fondest pipe dream"

Senator Clinton voted for it two months ago and Senator Obama just happened to be out of town. Somehow this very serious vote just slipped Tim Russerts and Brian Williams minds.

Yet they found the time to ask Former Senator Edwards about his votes on Yucca mountain and bankruptcy legislation.

Fair and balanced in your dreams.

I hope this does not surprise you.....It shouldn't. As far as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is concerned, do not expect any real "debate" or "discussion" on this issue other than the usual....oh well never mind....you get the drift....I know, I just know you do....

This has been going on far too long and we should not accept it. We should not be complacent. We should challenge..... respectfully and clearly!

Sany @ 400:

Did you notice after the debate they put the camera only on Hillary and then Obama. They totally kept the camera off of Edwards. It is soooo obvious who MSNBC wants to be our candidtate. It's either Hillary or Obama. I'm done with MSNBC. I feel bad for Oberman. He has to make his living off of them!

That is such a good point. That would be an interesting figure to have. Just how much camera time on HIllary and Obama and how many words that were spoken. The only time I heard one Brian Williams try to cut someone off was Edwards and I bet if you added up all the words Hillary and OBama had far more words and time.

Russert was just too careful to ask Hillary about her yes vote on the warmongering Kyl LIeberman amendment. Did not challenge Obama about not being there. More important to bring up the fixation with the race spat not a potential strike on Iranian Revoutionary Guard that that amendment basically authorizes.

kravitz @ 403:

Romney, and the successful 39% Uncommitted votes include anti-Clinton protest votes. She should have taken over 80. Instead, she's only at 56 on CNN against Dennis.

Dennis would never be as good to GE as any of these three. And if they're not getting something out of it, why invite a powerless bug to the party.

MSNBC has an exit poll spefically asking the "uncommitteds" whom they've have voted for had everyone been on the ballot. Result: Obama, 73%, Hilary, 13%.....Kucinich, 1%.

Enough said. Back to bed.

budda @ 39:

Hail to the Chimp @ 38:

Did anyone notice how Barack took responsibility for the conduct of his SC press secretary but Hillary would not take responsibility for Bob Johnson?

!!!!!!!!

Hillary has gotten rid of people who made false claims and unwarranted attacks in the past but she is not about to get rid of any of her Black supporters now... she needs them to deflect the racism charges.

Did you notice that the spokesperson from her campaign that she sent to the MSNBC after debate analysis program was a black man, who initially said he was an attorney, but Tweety finally pulled it out of him that he was also a registered lobbyist. Clinton's tactic in sending him backfired.

Tweety was pretty restrained though... looks like the Media Matters campaign to write his producers about his Hillary and women bashing had an effect! Hah!

I guess MSNBC doesn't find it very important that the majority of Americans agree with Kucinich on the issues?

Bit NOLA @ 92:

What's a meelworker?

Didn't get the response you wanted from Americablog so you tried that out here?

ctalk @ 121:

TruthHurts @ 54:

Kucinich is NOT a member of the CFR. Clinton, Obama, and Edwards ARE members of the CFR.

Kucinich and Gravel were the only ones truly left of center. Democracy in the USA is a joke, I don't want to hear the phrase "leader of the free world" ever again!

Its really a shame that Kucinich's position on defending the Constitution and Rule of Law is considered "left of center". =|

I have some questions!

First, I read that Obama and Edwards were 'off the ballet.' At least, I think that's what I read. What does that mean? Why aren't their votes being tabulated?

I figure that it has to do with these "uncommitted" voters, but that brings me to my second question: Who are these voters? How do they know who is "committed?"

This is all new and scary for me!

Response to #322=MSNBC DID NOT, in my opinion, acknowledge Edwards' performance. They kept pushing the Hillary and Obama thing all night. The FIX is in for Hillary. MSNBC is soooo biased for Hillary to win. Just listen to Pat Buchanan. He keeps saying the same thing in every debate ie. Hillary looked Presidental tonight!!!

Where the hell is the outrage from the other candidates over this? Obama, Clinton and Edwards? If any of them had a real sense of what was important for the country they would DEMAND that Kucinich be included or NO SHOW.

No, they just sit back, happily munching at the trough of corporate media. They're probably relieved. Kucinich makes to much SENSE.

Not that NBC gives a rat's toss, but I sure as hell am NOT watching their coverage from now on, and that includes Olbermann.

God damn corrupt media. Nothing changes until the monopolies are broken. NOTHING.

Obama's campaign seems very impressive. If you have ever been in the thick of a Presidential campaign, and you were to hitch a ride with the candidate on his plane, there is something that becomes very clear, very quickly. It's a question as to whether the candidate is competent or not. But I see Obama is very ambitious! Once I have read a book -- "The Audacity of Hope" by Obama, it seems that his analysis of the world situation, from the US, to Indonesia, to Africa, to Iraq shows a much deeper understanding than would be evident from the debates: http://dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?deal_id=39018&ru=279 , I indeed think his ambition will make him big chance.

Obama's campaign seems very impressive. If you have ever been in the thick of a Presidential campaign, and you were to hitch a ride with the candidate on his plane, there is something that becomes very clear, very quickly. It's a question as to whether the candidate is competent or not. But I see Obama is very ambitious! Once I have read a book -- "The Audacity of Hope" by Obama, it seems that his analysis of the world situation, from the US, to Indonesia, to Africa, to Iraq shows a much deeper understanding than would be evident from the debates: dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?deal_id=39018&ru=279 , I indeed think his ambition will make him big chance.

Shawnmeat @ 422:

First, I read that Obama and Edwards were 'off the ballet.'

I think that this is a great idea, so I'm going to pass it along to DriftGlass for a PhotoChop. (Here's hoping the tights are tight enough to settle the old, race-baiting question.) Of course, said ballet had better not be the Nutcracker. I can't imagine that the Clinton supporters would find that funny. Even with her left out, you know how people would read stuff into the name.

SickofObama @ 30:

Funny the Edwards and Obama cry for Michigan to vote undecided (for them basically) failed horribly. She is up around 60% of the vote.

I know there are no delegates on the line but it certainly says something.

I wish the DNC had not screwed Michigan. They deserved to have their voices heard.

A lot of people just didn't vote since Edwards and Barack weren't listed. Others just voted for the Democrat on the ballot. All they needed to 15% in the uncommitted box. They got over 30%.

what was that guy screaming?

"race ....."

Hail to the Chimp @ 38:

Did anyone notice how Barack took responsibility for the conduct of his SC press secretary but Hillary would not take responsibility for Bob Johnson?

she said what he said was out of bounds.... what else do u want him to say??

When Obama's dude said that Hillary helped to have that woman in Pakistan killled, he didnt fire him...... he patted him on the back and sent him to another TV show.

where is the evidence that shows Hillary was the cause of her death?

Kucinich is NOT a member of the CFR. Clinton, Obama, and Edwards ARE members of the CFR.

What have the "Gang of Three" said about Dennis' exclusion? Answer: nothing

Does anyone remember the exchange between Edwards and Clinton during an early debate in which they were caught on an open mic, discussing excluding candidates from the debates? I do.

While it was NBC that ran off to the Nevada Supreme Court, you'll notice there were no contrary filings by any of the other candidates.

In short: Dennis is dangerous to the "mainstream" Gang of Three. It's dangerous to them to actually have to share a stage with a candidate who has been consistently correct all along on all the issues over which the Gang are fighting to establish supremacy, and who were dead wrong while Dennis was busy getting it right.

what was that guy yelling? something about 'race-based questions'? anybody pick that out?

JMILLER @ 41:

Roger from Ohio @ 34:

Like most lawyers.......... Edwards made his money stealing from the middle class in the name of helping them out.

and then he says I support the middle class as him and his wife over charge them in the court room

idiot - he's a plaintiffs lawyer....you don't charge your clients. You spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on experts and discovery to build a case against a corporate client or faulty manufacturer to give your injured client compensation for their injuries or death....

Gosh "dreamworld", where do you live? I'm afraid that's not how the real world works. Would be nice if food was free and we could pump as much gas as we wanted for just the free glasses with a fill up too.

Unfortunately or not, that's how the lawyers drive those little fancy BMW's around town. They make damn good money after they pay off those school debts the saved up.

Sure, Edwards made his fortune off fighting for the little man and taking a cut of it. Success can be a bitch. He must've been good, or they wouldn't hire him I suppose. I'll bet there are damn few of his clients that weren't happy with the settlements. If there were, I'm sure the swiftboaters would have pulled them out of the woodwork by now.

I'm pretty upset about this. I do not want a news organization determining which candidate for president is no longer viable. Regardless of his numbers at present, the people have not made a decision yet! This is just another example of the courts viewing a corporation's "rights" as primary over the rights of people.

I'm pretty sure that if Kucinich had the backing of the Industrial Military Complex, he'd be in the debate without question. I wonder how Giulianni will be treated by the media? Didn't he place in the "power rankings" above Edwards? Democracy is a sham.

Hail to the Chimp @ 38:

Did anyone notice how Barack took responsibility for the conduct of his SC press secretary but Hillary would not take responsibility for Bob Johnson?

yep, I did.

All three candidates need to stop filling in silent spots with "ah"
My seventh grade English teacher broke me of saying that and I wish she had done that for each of them. It drives me crazy.

Sounded like "rigged fake questions" to me.

forgiveness for not being up on the news

what was the reason for dennis not being allowed in this debate initially?

Oh, on a snarky note, did the photographer dump a whole can of vaseline on the camera before taking that photo of Hillary? I swear, it looks like it should be an inspiration poem poster with fuzzy puppies instead. Adding defusion to a photo doesn't make her any more cute and cuddly, it just looks ridiculous.

That said, even if her photo was shot by Annie Leibovitz I'd still never vote for anyone who voted for the war*, doesn't support impeachment proceedings, doesn't stand up against torture, telecom immunity and most importantly, I will NEVER vote for anyone who is supported by Rupert Murdock!!!

*Yes she did no matter how she spins it now. I knew where it was leading and I'm a moron! If she was too stupid to know that's where her vote was leading she is not fit to lead this country in any negotiations with foreign leaders.

Churlish? Who says that?

Shawnmeat @ 422
Democrats punish Michigan for early primary
Should answer your questions

YuvbinDuped -

Dr. Paul asked that you guys stay hidden until after the election. And if I find that you put swastikas all over the keyboard again, then it's no Mel Gibson movies for a month.

YuvbinDuped @ 437:

Our mainstream media is doing us all an injustice once again. Through their censorship and smear campaigns against the only two candidates that actually give a damn about the people rather than the globalist Zionist agenda. They won't give Kucinich or Ron Paul a fair shake and have used every dirty trick in the book to make sure that those two patriots never see the light of day. The US Constitution simply cannot take another globalist such as Hillary. It gets stomped from the right then the left.

Divide and conquer. Too bad Americans have no clue what their constitution means or give a damn. It wasn't their blood shed for freedom. They just shuck it away in ignorance.

So far, Hillary is the Bilderberg puppet, but that may soon change when Mike Bloomberg (wanna guess his nationality) throws his hat in the ring. The dynamics of the election will be transformed dramatically and you will see the shift when Hillary gets stomped into the ground by the same media that now favors her as their Zionist daughter. Blood's thicker than water and Bloomberg will get the backing of AIPAC.

Welcome to the United States if Israel!!

Guess Bloombergs "nationality"???...Uh yeah. Its U.S.

What a maroon.

Take that anti-Semitic B.S. down the road.