The O'Reilly Fatuousness: The <i>Librul Media</i> Attacks Tony Snow; Billo Comes To His Rescue
By Nicole Belle Monday Jan 14, 2008 12:27pm
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What has Billo's knickers in a twist tonight? Tony Snow appeared on Bill Maher's Real Time with *gasp* an audience and panel not consisting of an echo chamber. Quelle horreur! And to make matters worse, one of the people looking to inject some reality into Tony Snow's cheerleading was Billo's nemesis Mark Cuban. It is absolutely unthinkable to Bill that they would stack the panel so that the one conservative was facing three "far left loons" (His words, not mine. Who knew that Catherine Crier was a far left loon?).
Now I’ve seen people outnumbered, but nothing like Tony Snow was on that program.
Um, hello??? Let me reacquaint Bill with the typical line up by pointing to the Sunday "news" shows, where just this past Sunday, only two of the nine guests over five shows were Democrats. So is Bill saying that the only fair programming is to have more conservatives lined up so that they can gang up on the token liberal? *snort* Bill, take a look at the FOXNews programming any day of the week. And let's not forget this report by Media Matters.
Bill brings on author Mark Smith who wins the award for the sheer, mindless ability to spew conservative tropes that have no passing relationship to reality:
And I think, by the way, that the Mark Cubans of the world and the Bill Mahers of the world under no circumstances will change their mind is they can’t afford to. I think the Democrats in America have no choice but to frankly, in many ways, cheer against America.
You need to have crisis and failure in America and overseas to justify more government, higher taxes, and the like. And I think that that’s why they’re so worried that George Bush will succeed in Iraq because if Bush succeeds, all arguments that they’ve been raising will frankly fall by the wayside.
Tired, Mark. Very, very tired. And exhibits the simple binary thought process of your average third grader. But kudos to you for reading Naomi Klein. Too bad you didn't understand a fraking word of it.
Yeah and I think it’s quite interesting Bill, how…and I think if you want to go back to the start of this, I think the fact that the left in America had decades and decades of a media monopoly and I think only now is the left trying to figure out how do they successfully compete in a marketplace of ideas where they no longer have the only voice. Where now they have to explain what they think and why they think it on Fox News, on the internet, on talk radio and the like, and I think they’re adjusting and adapting to that and I think they’re going through, frankly, some growing pains. Which is why we see the vitriolism [sic] that’s being sort of targeted to one another in a way that we haven’t seen in the past.
This is so completely non-reality based that even Bill calls out Smith for it. I mean, even Fox News viewers--incurious as studies have shown them to be--have enough functioning intellect to know that's a huge pile of bovine excrement.
I’ve been saying, if fact, in some ways, maybe the best argument to vote for a Republican, although I’m a conservative, the best argument to vote for a Republican may very well be that we’re not Democrats.
Wow. With all due respect to the man responsible for The Official Handbook of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy 2006: The Arguments You Need to Defeat the Loony Left , I think I speak for more than a few when I say that I'm very grateful you're not on the team.
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5th! I mean 1th!
This very second, the "librul" media is attacking democracy itself:
Oh leave poor Bill alone! He is the only voice speaking truth on TV!
Billo's is losing it. He can see the writing on the wall, and he is ready to explode. Him and all of his right-wing buddies are sqawking like geese waiting for the buckshot. If the trends are clear, young people and independants are voting Democratic. By Billo's and his own flock of blowhards have bullied and soiled thier own party. Only the very rich and the very ignorant are goin Republican. I think I see light at the end of the tunnel.
Does BoR even realize that, outside of people shuffling their walkers down the halls of countless nursing homes, he just might be the only person in America still using the terms "Loon" and "Moonbat"???
Isn't it way past time for someone to find him in the shower and stuff some pills in his mouth?
If the "front runners" of the Democratic candidates had any integrity, they would tell NBC to shove their exclusionary tactics where the sun doesn't shine.
Oh, and BillO has some serious anger management and mental health issues. Almost as bad as Britney's. BillO could use an intervention too. His grasp on reality is tenuous at best.
His guest's arguments are tangential at best! And that is being kind.
Billo cannot construct a glass house large enough...
Saw that coming when I watched Bill Maher.... even thought I heard one of billo's veins pop all the way here in TX... The only pile-ons he likes involves bath items and GOP
What worries me is that Bush has made it impossible to succeed in Iraq, at least according to any sane, rational definition of "success."
I give Bush and the neocons the benefit of the doubt, in that they were blindsided by the depth and virulence of the post-Saddam insurrection. But they've been refusing to acknowledge reality for more than two years. Why should anyone believe they'll start now?
breaking! hillary clinton has TAKEN HOSTAGES
Oh Bill O has convince me that Tony Snow was so brave and honorable going on Maher's show.
If I recall the honorable patriot Tony Snow left the White House officially (Tony's words) because it didn't pay enough. So if Tony believed what he shoveled and how important it is for Repubs to continue what I call their scorched earth agenda.
Then why did the "patriot saint" Tony , leave his post and his President in the time of need?
To be clear. Snow went on Maher's show for money.
Money he said he was going broke from not getting as W.H. spokesperson. If Bill and FOX would pay Snow to go on their shows, poor Tony wouldn't have to go on those evil liberal shows and Bill O would not have to play nurse and bandage Tony's wounds from partisan warfare.
And this expert with a bok on "Vast republican conspiracy". Heritage Foundation is graduating their students without the credientials they require. Like public schools graduating students that cannot read or write.
This is hilarious.
Russian TV, after the whole anti-Putin coverage in the US media during the recent elections in Russia, did a great material on the New Hampshire Primary and our Diebold machines in which we trust, to counter our propaganda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBFIH-96O4&eurl=http://chimpplanet.journ...
Is this the reason why Dennis Kucinich can't join the NBC debate today? Because he dared to ask for a hand recount of the NH votes and even agreed to pay for it himself in the name of our deteriorating democratic system.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22656153/
Russian TV seems more forthcoming and honest than NBC apparently. Ironic? Well. Sad? You bet.
Tony Snow was still carrying the flag for Bush on that show, spewing that the surge worked, when the reporter from RS had been there. Funny thing too, when they were talking about the economy going downhill, I was surprised no one asked Snow why he left the white house, when way back when he said he wasn't making enough money there.
The looks of utter jaw dropping Scooby Doo-esque HHUUUUUHHHH??? on Matt Taibbi's face the entire time Snow spoke was truly priceless - not to mention the fact that Tony Snow completely interrupted Taibbi's interview with Maher ever chance he could. Taibbi, the gentleman, let Snow speak and prove beyond a doubt just what a cretin Tony Snow could be when someone doesn't agree with him.
Look, I'm glad Tony's in good health and spirits, but the arrogant, condescending demon in him was out in full force!
As to being "ambushed vy far left loons," since when was Catherine Crier a liberal?????
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Snow was still on the White House payroll as a propoganda cheerleader!
"I’ve been saying, if fact, in some ways, maybe the best argument to vote for a Republican, although I’m a conservative, the best argument to vote for a Republican may very well be that we’re not Democrats."
Seriously deep logic there. (snark)
Nobody wants to confront Snowjob forecfully because of his illness. He really should be in a jail cell along with Taylor, Schloz, Doan, Gonzo, McClellen, Perino, Perl, Rumsfield, Bremer, Wolfie, and on and on...
Tony Snow was still carrying the flag for Bush on that show, spewing that the surge worked, when the reporter from RS had been there. Funny thing too, when they were talking about the economy going downhill, I was surprised no one asked Snow why he left the white house, when way back when he said he wasn’t making enough money there.
While Mark Cuban handed him his ass, and Catherine Crier piled on, too. If Snow couldn't handle Bill Maher, he shouldn't have gone on the show.
I've seen Harold Ford on "Real Time" and he wisely shut his mouth cause he didn't want Sean Penn handing him his ass after Markos did it on "Meet the Press" a few weeks earlier.
uncle wally @ 15:
Tony and the GOP figure Tony has been sainted by the W.H. and can now make good money on the bobble head circuit as he hacks for them. It can't be working as they planned if Bill O has to lick Tony's wounds.
After SnowJob said that the troops were part of something "special," the audience erupted in laughter. BillO conveniently cut that part out. What an Assclown.
Authoritarian cultists have to stick together
I say let them all debate, or don't hold televised debates at all.
We don't need no feminine hygiene sponsor deciding who we'll vote for or even listen to.
jr @ 23:
Semen brothers?
poor, poor fox news audience..
"...and I think only now is the left trying to figure out how do they successfully compete in a marketplace of ideas..."
Yes.How to compete against these intellectual giants?
Well one thing we could try is flinging our own feces around like Baboons...
I used to get worked up about BillO, but then I realised that....
he's just a guy that wants money.
That is all.
He makes millions spewing his "ideas" on television, when he's merely playing a role that people will watch him play.
Why get angry about him? He's a joke. The truth will always win out, and if people want to believe O'Reilly, that's their problem.
I would say Billo, as well as his audience, is afflicted by Morton's Demon...
Read the rest here...
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/feb02.html
Snow complains that he was hit with three year old arguments that he still hasn't come up with a good response to.
the Republicans are ready to move on and sweep their mistakes under the rug. They don't like the rug being pulled back over and over.
I'm sure that people who committed armed robbery three years ago and haven't been apprehended, don't want the police coming around and reminding them.
They still think Bush could win the war in Iraq? Isn't that like winning the lottery without buying a ticket?
Bill's audience seem to be the kind of people who are unable or unwilling to think for themselves so they allow bill to implant his bs into their head and then they believe they know something. Those sorts of folks will always be around and bill is just serving a function for them. He wasn't smart enough to be a tv preacher so he did the second best thing, he got a job chopping up the truth and serving it daily.
What was that PIXIES's song? Superheroes seem to be generally optimistic people......why were we talking about light, kristals, and stem cells again? Oh, oh yeah....the segment finished before key-bored-me. Videos do reflect something,... something? Oh yeah access to equipment....and that's a reflection of..???? Oh.....Hey Loons are on that coin from that, that (point up)...
I special like throw elect, 3 year old what book is good to buy.......billo, billm christis and failure.....bombing x 3......quotes monopoly?
pissed off patricia @ 32:
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pissed off patricia @ 32:
brillo-ant, I don't have an English dictionary here, but think you have scrubbed it clean-bravo, thank you
BTW,I seem to recall a guy named Phil Donahue that was "successfully competing in the market place of ideas".
Then they fired his anti-war ass.
It use to be a time when nuts like chimpy, loofahboy, limpdick et al were put in an insane asylums and given a nice lobotomy. Now these same people are repugs.
Oh poor rotten snow. ****boo-fucking-hoo****wahhhh****He is still lying for nothing. He believes all the bs he puts out or he's trying to keep face. Either way it's a sad case of repug logic. Pity
Compared to the repugs the truth is a liberal value.
How can they possibly reconcile the belief that liberals are just now learning to use the marketplace of ideas, and that they control the marketplace at the same time.
As for the internet, it was Howard Dean who figured out how to use it politically before any of the candidates running today.
I just can't get over how they think dissent is "cheering against America" What planet do they live on???
fairtomydland @ 28:
Yeah, it's sad, but I'm beginning to think C&L just uses Billo to distract from the real crooks and liars.
I'd rather see the video of Cuban, and Maher giving the business to Snowjob on the topic of possible election Fraud in NH, and the general lack of Election Integrity, than hear O'Liely's rant about it.
BradBlog had that video up a couple of days ago, and is all over the story of the problems with the corporate controlled counting machines, while other "liberal" blogs ignore it along with the MSM.
For the rest of the campaign, I'll be checking BradBlog for info., rather that
O'Reilly watch
C&L.pinkobait @ 36:
Is "successfully competing in the market place of ideas" your quote? If not where does it/they originate;'Market places' and 'Ideas'-Thanks!
Pooooooor Tony Snowjob. Being beat up by liberals who tell the truth. I feel soooo
sorry for Snowjob. NOT.
Doggiebobo @ 42:
" no personal attacks please"
[That's "no personal attacks on other posters"-Sitemonitor]
P.D. @ 4:
billo is going down. he's so full of it that he's burning the midnight oil making up illogical stuff on the dems then telling everyone he's sane. Basically a typical repug.
So heroic of Orally there to stand up for the little guy, the "little guy" in this instance being a former White House press secretary who quit to make more money in the private sector.
You know, it's one thing to quote these rightwing bacteria - but why do you have to link to their books on Amazon?
I love how Tony Snow said he was ambushed...like he didn't know he was going to be on Real Time..."it just happened...the next thing I know I'm being attacked!"
If this asshole isn't proof positive that Lying causes cancer...
equilibrio @ 40:
With all due respect, we have ALWAYS covered Bill O'Reilly. That's what we do, is hold up the framing in the MSM of the news. That's our niche.
I respect that you think that there are more important issues, and as you acknowledged, there are other sites doing that coverage.
We've never tried to be the be-all and end-all of progressive news (in fact, we're not a news blog at all--we do media analysis and political opinion). Please feel free to avail yourself of the wide spectrum of sites to get the information you're seeking. But to complain that we aren't covering the news you want because you want it is more than a little petulant on your part.
Christy Hannity @ 43:
Personal attacks???? Boy are you out to lunch. If I'd been able to say what I really
wanted about that hack, then you could perhaps accuse me of a personal attack.
So, how's Tony Snow doing with that cancer anyway?
Christy Hannity @ 43:
Is Christy Hannity Mr. Snow? Could I change my name to be cute in a benifshill way? Wow this web/net thing might just take off!
Old Billy @ 50:
Karma works for everybody here ...Billy, was it?
BillO correctly realizes that it takes about 3 neocons to match the intellect of one progressive. He is looking for intellectual fairness in these situations: 3 neocons to 1 progressive or it's just unfair.
Oh yea, Tony Snow is an asshat. I couldn't believe that he was spouting that crap like he was still behind the podium. I'd love to hear Scott Mcleland(sp?) in a forum like that, cause I think he'd spill his beans. Seams like that was why he retired, because he realized he had a soul and couldn't spew all the lies any more for any amount of money. I bet he comes out with tell-all after Shrub leaves office.
My first post here,
Peace,
Scott
Ricky Bones @ 39:
Simplistic arguments for simplistic minds. No critical thinking involved. That's Fox News' audience.
"I think the Democrats in America have no choice but to frankly, in many ways, cheer against America."
Bill … A clue for you… We’re not cheering against America, we’re just making noise about the IDIOT’S who brought her down to where she is now … namely, Six years of unchecked Republican shenanigans and skulduggery.
America has woken from it’s sleep and is up off the couch. I can’t wait to hear your whining once they lose their majority status.
O.T. MSNBC just annouce that Rudy has lost his lead in Florida. Isn't he the only one campaigning in Florida right now? Karherine Harris must be helping a bunch.
it doesn't matter if Giuliani is trailing in Florida, Kathrine Harris will fix it and make sure Rudy wins there like Bush did.
Hey Mark - one way of starting to succeed in Iraq is knowing how to pronounce it correctly. "EYE-rack" makes you sound more like an inbred piece of crap.
And a left-wing media monopoly???!!! I sure would like some of that stuff you're smoking, hick.
If Billo, Tony and this other wacko think things are so successful in Iraq, how come the Iraqi officials think it's going to be ten more years before their own forces will be able to take control. Why does McCain think we might be there 100, 1,000 or even a million years. These guys don't even know what their fellow dumbwats are saying.
Please do not use the term "Billo’s knickers". What a sickning image. An old fat guy with the giant bald spot in his stained shorts.
Fil @ 57:
Yeah but, if he is the only one campaigning there, It might even be hard for Harris to fix that.
wasaperson @ 41:
I was paraphrasing Mark Smith's(Bill's guest)smug assertions.
Must really suck to be a conservative. No self awareness. Can’t hear themselves speak. An original thought nowhere to be found. Makes you wonder if they can even see their own reflection in a mirror.
Must be nice to be a Democrat you can say you support the troops in one breath then call them no better then german soldiers during WW2 in the next... self awareness!
Dik @ 64:
bravo bigboy, let's end this discussion with "server in the sky" please ask whys,,,for everyone, not just this mask!
pinkobait @ 62:
WHY paraphrase the author of ...What was its OFFICIAL 'thing all about^? Hey, Found the dictionary and you should look up the 'official 'between history and how do you paraphrase it? Between 2 and or the rest I'm just looking and reading, what are the rest of Americans doing? Mark Smith?
Billo is just crabby because he didn't get his daily blow-job from his male boyfriend.
Bill, and his lovely guest, are so concerned, aren't they? FLEETS, Bill. What decade are they living in? Looked at the Bush poll ratings lately?
Just a thought: maybe he was referring to Maher as the third "loon," not Crier. In which case, Maher (thank God there's one intelligent and witty Bill in the media) should tell him where to go the next time he wants him as a guest on his show.
Let me make sure I understand the idiot speak correctly:
If you're not a reslug you're satan and you hate 'merka, baybeez and freedum.
It must be great to be so simple minded. No details ever get in the way. Facts never enter into it.
I'd suggest it's like being mentally handicapped but most of the mentally handicapped people I know are smarter than that.
I guess it's more like a mental illness.
At least Tony Snow has the guts to go on Real Time. BOR sez that he wouldn't do it unless it was one-on-one with Maher. What a gutless wonder. I guess Billo doesn't do so well in an enviornment that isn't controlled by his own people.
I love how they call Mark Cuban a Democrat or that he is of the left. He much more of a libertarian than a liberal.
If you pay attention to what Tony Snow says about taking part of something special...
"these people dying in Iraq are coming back and saying they are part of something special...'
He doesn't just screw up and say it, he says the same thing twice in the show.
Our dead soldiers are coming back and saying they were part of something special.
Wow.
Maybe he needs to see that Masters of Horror episode where just the opposite happens...
I have NEVER seen Tony Snow say anything of any substance, EVER. O'Wrinkly blabbers about another universe. So what's changed?
Old Billy @ 50:
I know I'm gonna get flamed, but I honestly wish he'd give it to Billo. That way, when they croak, we'd get rid of two diseased assholes. Oh, wait...Billo doesn't need to get it to be a diseased asshole, he comes by it naturally.
Note to Bill-O: Mark Cuban isn't a liberal. Not that Bill-O cares about facts anyway!
Cuban is an admirer of Objectivist philosophy and author/philosopher Ayn Rand: "The Fountainhead was incredibly motivating to me. It encouraged me to think as an individual, take risks to reach my goals, and responsibility for my successes and failures. I loved it." His political views lean towards libertarianism, however, he holds a position on a centrist Unity08 political organization's advisory council.
well good, another 6 minute advertisment for the republicans to make us dither over their attacks.
What is the %? Like 85% of the video on the site is shoving the right wing slop at us or pushihg some "contraversy" about how bad Edwards is.
Give me one reason to show this? It doesn't help anyone, it just gives the right's propaganda a home.
You got that right. Did you see the fascist in him rise up when the Rolling Stone guy tried to say one reason Edwards has no chance is because the media won't cover him? Cuban started yapping about how people don't like Edwards because he said he would fight the corporations and the "people" see corporations as God or some such horsecrap.
OHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh......that's rich.....this is satire right.cause it sure as hell ain't reality.
Snow's just cuddling up to O'Reilly because he hopes that O'Reilly, being all assh*le, will volunteer to donate some portion of his anatomy as a transplant to replace Tony's colon.
I mean, maybe Bill could donate his middle finger. It would cut way down on his conversational ability, but if he were a generous bastard, he could at least make the offer.
I love how Bill and his ilk loves to pretend that NewsCorp, who he works for, is a little put-upon upstart and not part of the elite media...
Ricky Bones @ 39:
George W. Bush is America. One and the same. Didn't you get that memo?
Dik @ 64:
Uh... Billo is no Democrat.
They also said Snow was attacked by the liberals on the show. No he wasn't but Snow did attack Maher saying his hair is on fire and calling him wacked. O'Reilly even showed the clip of Snow doing this but neither of them had the cajones to call Snow out for attacking. Lie about liberals but ignore their own man doing the same. Hypocrites, both of them.
Mark Smith:
Funny, because the ones profiting off of fear of failure are the Repubs. And I haven't seen this much Federal Government powers, given to us by our "small gov" Repubs, since the U.S.S.R.
Other than that, I could see how he would say that...
if I were a simple-minded cretin unable to think past labels and stereotypes.
Sarah @ 76:
No, No! He's not a Libertarian. He's far-left, cause Bill O'Reilly says he is!
(sigh) Repub wingnuts are beyond pathetic these days. Orally should look up the word "projection" when he slings that "loon" word around.
Mark Smith:
Like the right wing successfully competes in the marketplace of ideas: "Shut up! Shut up! Turn off his mike!"
One out of four =25%.
What are you whining about Bildo?
That is the same percentage that still supports Bush.
You can't whine your way out of the truth Bildo.
Snow was outnumbered yet managed to make all his points. They remained civil and Maher never told him to shut up or cut off his mic.
Anyone else finds Falafel's closing comment about "the ideologues" laughable? Since both, he and his guest are political hacks and ideologues of the worst kind.
Billo can do an inerview with Dan Blocker and still make it seem he is still alive
Dan Blocker that is.
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