Huckabee tries to laugh off Theocon remarks!
By John Amato Tuesday Jan 15, 2008 4:15pm
On H&C last night after the MI primary, Colmes asked Huckabee to comment on his theocratic rant to change the Constitution to line up with the word of God in his eyes.
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Colmes: When you make statements like that, changing the Constitution in keeping with your God.
Huckabee: On two things. The context is two things. Human life amendment, which I support and which has been in the Republican platform since 1980. And by the way, Fred Thompson doesn't support it, nor does John McCain. And yet it's part of our platform and it's a very important part of our platform to say that human life is something we're going to stand for. And the second thing is traditional marriage. So those are the two areas in which I'm talking about. I'm not suggesting that we re-write the constitution to reflect tithing or Sunday school attendance. I want to make that very clear.
Nice try there Mike. Two things is two things too many. What would be next? A "Wives to obey their husbands" amendment?" Richard Land would certainly be thrilled. Huckabee laughs it off as really just part of what Republicans think anyway so what's the big deal? I have to agree with him on that one completely. Huckabee is stating the words that are at the heart of Newt's Southern Strategy in the 90's and Reagan in the 80's.
The president of the United States interrupted his vacation (something he wouldn't do even when faced with a terrorist threat) to sign legislation to keep one brain damaged woman alive against her will in a naked pander to the religious right. This stuff is SOP to Republicans. They agree with it.
PFAW's Peter Montgomery says:
Does Huckabee mean what he said? Does he want an amendment to make divorce unconstitutional? What other ways would he amend the Constitution to meet his interpretation of “God’s standards?” Mike Huckabee’s desperate push to energize his supporters is revealing his deeply flawed view of our Constitution, and reminding Americans why the separation of church and state is so important.
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Aww, sHUCKs.
Let's just replace the constitution with the bible and be done with it.
Frist!
So Huckabee tries (and fails) to just laugh off his theocratic Dominionist preaching.
Nice try, dummy!
Legalizing slavery?
'Cause the bible actually says how to do it "right."
There is a lot of stuff in the Bible that I wouldn't want in the US Constitution.
Huckabee brags that he's killed more people than the other candidates. Perhaps he'd like to bring us stoning and be the first to pick up a rock?
Don't believe what he says. I know this type of religious person. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, willing to rend and tear to bring their willpower to Earth.
Not just slavery, it tells us the proper way to do an abortion to. You're supposed to go to your priest. Not a doctor.
Maybe we should have an election for pope.
Then we can have two nazi popes.
Weaseldog @ 6:
But isn't that how you got with child in the first place?!?
Under the law of Moses, the penalty for adultery is death by stoning (Deuteronomy 22:21 ff, John 8:4,5).
Goodbye Newt, Rush, Rudy, Arnold, O'Reilly, Haggard, Hyde, Bauer, Barr, McCain, Vitter, etc., etc., etc.
I'm worried that we have so many candidates that find themselves retracting almost everything they say.
"Hello. This is me talking. My mouth is running while my brain is off thinking about how to raise more money for that vacation to the Dominican Republic. Whatever I say, just ignore it, I never mean any of it. In fact I have no clue at all how to express the thoughts in my brain. They always come out of my mouth wrong. Vote for me if you like surprises."
How about you damn republicans leave the Constitution
alone! You have done enough damage to it already...bastards!
Dr. Matt @ 9:
how about BJ's??? I never saw anything in the bible about getting some noggin.
Protecting human life- make that Republican American human life.
Shorter Huckabee: "Haha haha! No, no, I was just sayin' about abortion, y'know? Haha haha, no, if I were elected everything would be fine, fine... Haha haha! Who is this guy? Well add him to the list, willya?"
Blue Lensman @ 8:
Men can't get boys pregnant.
Abortion and gay marriage? Not mentioned in the bible as far as I know. Curious that the two "biblical" issues the Huckster picks just happen to be two hot-button issues for the pinheads who vote Republican.
But I'm sure an ordained Baptist minister [sic] wouldn't be pandering or anything.
"We Will RULE THE WORLD!"
I didn't say that. What are you talking about? Jesus? who's he?
Mwahahahahahaha...
Can't we just ban organized religion and be done with all this fuckin bullshit!? I'm SO damn sick of religion in general, and sick of so called xtians pushing their interpretation of the bible into politics in particular...maybe it's just me...
Huckleberry ... "The Sinister Minister", got a ring don't it?
I don't think I can trust a Republican who doesn't have enough sense to use code words when pandering.
C'mon, Huck. Get with the program.
Why don't the deranged religious zealots leave America if they don't like the Constitiution or the principals on which this country was built? Aren't there plenty of countries where their unsavory hater-beliefs are law?
Yeah! You are the joke Huckabee! If you try to meddle with the Constitution, not only are you unpatriotic, but also a heretic.
Blue Lensman @ 8:
A priest make you pregnant?? Nah, dummy, 10 year old boys can't get pregnant!
Why is it that the people who say they know what God wants invariably agree with Him?
Ok, so I hadn't read the whole thread yet and that joke's been done.
Oh good, he would just stop with those two small things. I thought he was going to make major changes to the constitution that would infringe on people's rights or something.
(snark)
I get it now - The Omen!!
"And he shall rise from the eternal sea.."
I'm educating fellow Californians(lot's of fundies here in socal)
that Chucklebee is NOT a smart vote.
I think I need a constitutional.
maybe hucky could amendmend the constitution with this biblical gem:
When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property. (Exod. 21:20-21)
What I don't understand with the "human life ammendment" and being against taking people off life support, etc.... These opinions are held by people who believe there's an afterlife. I would think that they would support ushering people to their heavenly reward, no?
The 11th Commandment:
Thou shalt not staple thy stomach in order to lose weight.
Never ever in my 66 years on this rock have I seen such insanity. I was born free a right all human beings should have. I will fight to death with anyone who would take that away from me because life would not be worth living. Huckabee and all the others like him are the antithesis of that freedom and to my mind quite a negative statement in the year 2008, we certainly have not evolved much since the dark ages, we have all this technology, men in space, medical miracles and then we have the fundamentalist whose view is so skewed and heinous but still given credence by those who ostensibly earned their chops in journalism. It is truly time to take the reigns of power away from those that put forth such shit.
Henry Wallace(Vice President to FDR) NY Times Op Ed 1944 If you want to read what a true statesman would say today.
http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm
Impaktdevices @ 31:
That's a good point ... it more or less means they don't really believe in the after-life I guess.
Personally, I think this is it, our one shot, not a dry run, no do-overs.
Dr. Matt @ 9:
The quote from Deuteronomy is undeniably harsh, but the one from John is followed up by jesus recommending mercy for the woman in his "let he without sin cast the first stone" speech.
It's harder to find extreme scripture in the NT, hence the convenient "that crazy old testament stuff was nailed to the cross..." excuse that you'll encounter many times when you point out something batshit crazy that's attributed to god or moses.
We had better start taking this doofus seriously before it's too late. Where is the mainstream media on this? The Huckster can try to "aw shucks" his way out of these comments, but the word is out to his supporters...in code! As a non-Christian, I am extremely concerned this bozo actually might be elected. Heaven help us all if that happens.
liberalNmoderation @ 18:
Easy, cowboy...it's not just you. There's a lot of us peering out from under the sheets, blinking our eyes, and saying what until now has been the unsayable, which is that WE DON'T BELIEVE IN FUCKING FAIRYTALES, SO WOULD YOU FUCKING CHRISTIANISTS PLEASE DO THE REST OF US A FAVOR, AND PISS OFF!
Well, of course, he's going to say that his words reflect his views about abortion and gay marriage only. We all knew to what he was referring specifically.
The amazing thing is that he admits what other Republicans won't: that his views about abortion and gay marriage are strictly religious. He admits that his motives stem from theocratic governance.
But, come on, Religious Huckster, you seriously expect us to believe that theocracy will stop there? Authoritarianism has this creeping menace about it. It's shadow has already loomed large over our country, and your admitting that you want to amend the Constitution to be in line with a deity's laws only marks another step in a direction of totalitarian tyranny. A fucking gigantic step! A monumental leap!
Will anyone running for office ever talk about amending the Constitution to expand liberty in general? How about enumerating the right to pursue happiness? That would sure go a long, long way toward restoring our revolution.
All the more reason to keep a Dem-controlled congress so these kinds of amendments go out with the trash!
Oh, those "pro-death" liberals with their baby juicers...
I really don't care if Huckabee disagrees with abortion or gay marriage. That's his prerogative, even though I rather vehemently disagree with him on both counts. Still, I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why it's important that these positions be LEGISLATED. Somebody help me out here?
"When we were in college we used to take a popcorn popper -- because that was the only thing they would let us have in the dorms -- and fry squirrels in the popcorn popper."
-- Mike Huckabeecompletely freaking us out ("Morning Joe").
balthus Says:
liberalNmoderation @ 18:
Yes...I would add that any fundamentalist theocracy would not stop at at the new testament as evidenced again and again in history i.e. there would would be a lot of blood, yours and mine, aint religion grand.
Hogger @ 35:
Yeah, yeah. You can also find the quotes where Jesus says that he comes not to bring peace, but a sword to the world, and how he's there to uphold all of god's earlier laws, not amend them in any way. You can find omissions and contradictions throughout the Old Testament itself and from the Old to the New. And it's all so convenient that it can be interpreted in a variety of ways -- generally to suit the moral code to which the interpreter already adheres.
Besides, if you attribute something "batshit crazy" in the Old Testament to god, isn't that by definition attributing it to Jesus? Aren't the father and son really two parts of the same entity, in a trinity shared also by a ghost?
And while the Old Testament god might be a bipolar, raging alcoholic, he'll at least kill you and be done with you when you fuck up. It's not until you get to the supposedly merciful New Testament that god decides that he's going to punish you for your sins for all eternity -- in the most exquisite torture chambers imaginable -- after you're dead.
Sorry, but I don't want god's laws in the Constitution.
Nice try there Huck-n-jive. The context was not "two things", it was the word of the living God. That means everything you can squeeze out of your little black bible and interpreted any crazy ass way you would interpret it.
I tried Death by Stoning once, I gave up after I had smoked the first two ounces.
"a very important part of our platform to say that human life is something we’re going to stand for"
Does that mean no more war and death penalty? Oh wait the only human life that Republicans care about is not even alive yet. Forget about the poor and oppressed people in the world that really do need true help that the Republicans refuse to give...
One needs federal legislation when state legislation is all over the map, and it's a quality of medical care, access to medical care question.
Even if abortion were illegal all over the US those with means would simply go on a quick vacation to take care of things, something the poor can't do.
As for gay marriage it becomes a federal problem when some states allow it and some don't because of the the full rights and recognition clause of the Constitution.
Leviticus 25:44 says "you are to buy men- and women-slaves from the nations surrounding you."
Maybe the xian death cult republicans are really building that border fence to keep all the Mexicans IN.
I think this language is very dangerous and is closer to the Gov. Huckabee that us in Arkansas have known all along. Check out what Kevin Brannon says on Veracifier.com.
I think you can also comment in their forum at veracifier.com/forum
There are far too many Republicans who don't seem to understand that there are plenty of Americans, both religious and not-so-religious, who do not subscribe to Huckabee's notion of what is God's will. To insert anti-choice and anti-gay language in the Constitution - language embodying principles that are wholly derived from religious belief - is to assert that every American, adherent and non-adherent alike, must tow the Southern Baptist line or the Roman Catholic line, etc., etc. One person's religious principle is another's superstition. I'm tired of meddling, ignorant conservatives trying to dilute and corrupt the Constitution with their petty doctrinal disorders. Leave the Constitution alone and keep your religion to yourself. Why do I get the sinking feeling that Huckabee and his rabid disciples have never even heard of Jefferson's "Virginia Act Establishing Religious Freedom" and Madison's "Memorial and Remonstrance"? What a jerk.
♥♂ Angry Guy @ 45:
I thought Death by Stoning was the name of a Goth band like Christian Death.
Jack Jett @ 41:
Squirrel Popper
http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x230/falkrga1/sub2/?action=view&curre...
Oh, okay, the Huckster just wants to decide who can and can't marry and force women to have babies whether they want to or not, because his religious cult says so. That's not unconstitutional or anything.
In Oregon the gay hating bigots passed an awful defense of marriage amenment to the state constitution a few years ago. One of their arguements was 'marriage is special, we don't oppose civil unions.' Guess what? We finally got a Dem majority legislature last year and they passed a civil union law. The gay hating bigots tried to get an initiative on the ballot to stop it. Couldn't get enought signatures. It was supposed to go into effect on January 1st of 2008. Except the gay hating bigots found a Bushie judge to delay implementation because they whined that the procedure to check signatures isn't fair. (Gay hating bigot has an op-ed in today's Oregonian whining because all the sane people in Oregon have vilified the gay hating bigots.)
Christofascists are liars and not to be trusted. Especially the Huckster.
♥♂ Angry Guy @ 45:
Let he who is without sin load the first bowl?
Leviticus 19:19 prohibits the wearing of fabrics made from different threads.
In the photo above it looks like huckleberry is wearing a wool or wool /dacron blend jacket over a cotton shirt. Can we drag him into the street and stone him?
Sam @ 46:
Exactly. For Republicans, protecting life means protecting microscopic cells, bodies in permanent vegetative states, flags and virginity.
In other words, life begins at conception, and ends at birth, at which point you are but a controllable disposable government subject. If you're lucky, you might be resurrected after your birth by lapsing into an irretrievable coma.
The churches are already getting a tithing in the form of massive tax breaks. And I'm pretty certain that the only reason he said he wouldn't mandate Sunday school attendance is because he'd rather Christianity be part of PUBLIC school curriculum. Scratch that, the entire curriculum.
Feel the God-mentum!
Let's all hope that Hucka-WON'T-be president!
Uh oh, if The Huckster gets his way, there goes all my poly-cotton clothing. Since the Bible says you're not supposed to mix fibers, it'd surely be against the law.
Any admendment to make divorce unconstitutional will need a new law defining murder. If a Christian man kills his wife it will be justifible homicice. If a woman kills her husband it will be murder.
♥♂ Angry Guy @ 45:
Thanks for the laugh, I am looking at a poster on my wall a demonization of one of mother natures finest offering.
Marijuana-A Puff, A Party, A Tragedy......Assassin of Youth
Brought to you by mind killers like huckabee
Leviticus 19:25 prohibits men from cutting their hair and shaving their beards.
It seems to me that ol' huck is cherry picking biblical law to suit his own personal needs.
I saw a sweatshirt the other day. It said, "Magalize Leryjuana."
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 63:
My bad, it's actually Leviticus 19:27
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 65:
Really? An Evangelical, and a politician at that, cherry picking the bible? I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!
My favorite part in the Bible is when Lot won't let the angels at his door rape his guest but, instead, offers them his daughters! He even makes a little sales pitch about how they are virgins and so would be better than his guests.
Ah, the Old Testament. Good times.
Blue Lensman @ 54:
I like it.
Weaseldog @ 52:
I wish I had not seen that video. It was not funny. It was cruel. :(
Fanon @ 66:
And isn't this after, he got drunk and then got both of his daughter's pregnant?
I like the part when he tells combs that he should obey those things. Combs should remind him of that when Huck is found snorting cocaine off of the inner thigh of a underage prostitute.
pissed off patricia @ 68:
I thought that at first, but the squirrel keeps getting in the bowl over and over. Clearly the squirrel isn't that bothered.
Weaseldog @ 71:
Good thing they didn't have a Microwave ....
This ties in with Donald Wilton who Ministers the First Baptist North Spartanburg. At the Southern Baptist Convention a year and a half ago he said " As I am going to submit to you as believers in Christ Jesus, we are not even of America. We march to a different drumbeat. Ours is not the Constitution of America; ours is the Constitution of the Almighty God" The Rev Wilton however, is quite happy to use the IRS to claim his Church tax exemption.
I just can't shake the feeling that Huckster used to discipline his children by dunking their heads in the toilet. He strikes me as that kind of "my word is God's word" kind of guy.
♥♂ Angry Guy @ 72:
OR not
Weaseldog @ 69:
Like I said, good times.
Fanon @ 76:
The story of Lot got me thrown out of Sunday School. I learned that young people aren't supposed to ask questions about this part of the Holy Bible.
For some reason Bible School teachers get upset, if you ask why Lot lied to an angel about his daughters' virginity.
If this man becomes president i'll become a terrorist. (jk big brother)
Huckleberry is dangerous. His followers more so.
Lets leave God out of the Constitution,PLEASE.
Weaseldog @ 69:
Yeah. But it was the people of Sodom and Gomorrah who were slaughtered for being "immoral".
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 81:
And, don't forget, Lot's wife got turned to a pillar of salt. Lot himself? Well, I guess you just continue to get drunk and fornicate with your own flesh and blood. Maybe he was a republican?
Fanon @ 82:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
There's no gray area around what he said to those bible thumping idiots. He wants to change the constitution and that automatically disqualifies him. Period. He can dance around it all he likes on H/C.
I've had a belly full of religion with my politics and I'm sick of it, and I want anyone who says they are a man of faith do be marginalized.
Hogger @ 35:
Actually, when Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he didn't mention or hit at mercy at all. What he actually was saying is that the law may only be enforced by those who are perfect. Everyone assumes he meant mercy, but that's not what he said. He could easily have said "I hereby repeal the old laws of stoning adulterers" and "ease up guys, don't harsh on this poor chick". But he didn't. He just said that perfect people are the only enforcers.
Which, by the way, should have included himself. So he should have picked up a rock and killed her, according to his own statement.
The only thing 'laughable' about this whole thing is shmuckabee.
C&L should put "supreme ayatollah" before Mike Huckabee's name in all future posts.
mitchellews @ 87:
Heh, he's running for POTUS. Pontiff of the United States.
pickles @ 21:
Ah, you're right! They really do hate America...but you see they love our Cruise Missiles! They're shaped like dicks, and if you fuck with them, they'll explode! These theocons believe that America's nuclear tipped dicks are an excellent addition to their manipulative and deceptive mind fuck agenda! They love pointed symbols that remind them of dick! Missiles, steeples, Ted Haggard. In fact they would love to stuff their hot tipped dicks right in the center of Iran for some interracial action! All in the name of Lucif...I mean Jesus!
Perhaps these folks who are so enamored of the idea of theocracy should go and live in Iran for a year. See what it's like.
"human life is something we’re going to stand for...."
I have never understood this. Bomb, kill, bomb, kill, bomb, kill. He must not mean brown people, unless they are the domestic help....
Bud @ 32:
We are a nation of many sinners then .. Not the Huckster's family, judging by their looks - buttt, didn't he ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8996600@N03/2145018366/
True Republicans Barry Goldwater and Teddy Roosevelt warned us about injecting religion into American politics. After the decimation of our party by W and Lott and Delay and the rest of the Southern Republicans, if Huckabee is the nominee I fear they'll be no more GOP north of the Mason-Dixon. The last Republican in NY, please shut out the lights.
Huck will do anything to get the Trinity Broadcast Network to cream their pants over his candidacy
Tony Iovino @ 93:
Funny how the duopoly party system evolves, no? I mean, the Republicans began as the enemies of Dixie. The party formed to end slavery and spread a free enterprise economy is now the standard bearers of Theocrats and southern racism of old.
Barry Goldwater was largely a lower-case "l" libertarian. Champion of small government, fiscal conservatism and civil liberties. As John Dean said recently, Goldwater conservatism is now "left of center."
Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. Part of a wing of the Republican Party that had to bolt from it altogether. Officially. His last run for the presidency was on the Progressive Party ticket. Unfortunately, his third-party bid spoiled the election, catapulting Woodrow Wilson to the oval office. Wilson was, ahem, a Democrat -- then the party of Authoritarians and Theocrats. Yikes.
This guy is very dangerous
Gomer is the new w for the ignorant wingnut base.
Watch him win SC, there are many wingnuts there and he will do well in the wingnut red States in the South.
Rev. Huck remarks are interesting as we see many of the Republican Religious Law Markers getting caught hiring prostitutes and even those molesting children. Then those who sworn under God to tell the truth but lied anyway. We have no economy and all this idiot can talk about is a woman is to be directed by her husband. Now that sounds just like the way woman are treated in the Middle East as they need permission from their husband to do everything. Are we not only illegally invading the Middle East, torturing innocent woman and children and now following their religious beliefs. Rev. Huck is moving toward Christians be coming Muslims. Mitt's just lying his way for a vote. McCain has war on his mine with anyone. Rudy is just saying anything now for a vote. Fred is so old he thinks if he wins his State he can be President.
Obama should be running for President of the place his Father is at in Africa. He spends more time with Connie Rice trying to stop the problems over there, then he does for the people of the State of Illinois. Obama can't make it to Washington to vote on bills that will help Illinois but he has time to make tapes of support to stop the problems in Africa. Now if he becomes President will he have time for the problems of the US or still totally work on the problems in Africa. Bush is giving jobs to Iraq men with taxpayers money, while Americans are losing their job and most can't find a job. We need a President that will work for the problems of the American people.
Jackie @ 98:
I couldn't disagree with you more. The President and the Senate should be paying more attention to Kenya. Of course, the economic concerns of Americans are important, but one does not preclude the other.
Old Billy @ 99:
Jackie
What a bunch of racist crap. Not even artful, veiled, racist crap.
That's right, the only two high profile black people you can name in government are only concerned about the needs of Africa, therefore that is where they belong. You probably don't even live in Illinois (I do). Go troll somewhere else.
We believe in human life BS. They believe in blowing innocent human life away in order to line their pockets.
If Huckaberry wants to change the Constitution to include God's laws, what is it about
1) Thou shall not kill
2) Thou shall not steal
3) Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor
4) Thou shall not covet thy neighbors property
that this asshole doesn't understand.
Traditional marriage and human life, this is what I want to hear from the future president, how important these issues are to him. Yes, I want to know that he is going to be spending his time on these extremely important items, these things need to be resolved.
When is Colmes going to get a pair? I swear, he let's these wingnuts spin talking point after talking point without countering them. Come to think of it, 95% of our "liberal" pundits are like this: spineless Milquetoast wimps.
Please, "liberal" pundits, confront these people. Tear into them on the traditional marriage and human life amendments, to make sure everyone realizes he disagrees with the majority of Americans.
Karen @ 88:
which, if he wins, will make TWO FASCIST PONTIFFS!
which has been in the Republican platform since 1980.
So You Jesus freaks have had four Presidents over 20 out of 28 years and abortion is still legal.
There is one word for you Jesus Freaks
SUCKERS.
I'm not surprised.
It's been 2000 years and your still waiting for some guy to come back his death.
SUCKERS is appropriate.
Megachurch leader sentenced for perjury
http://www.cbs46.com/news/15059702/detail.html
Steve @ 103:
I'm with you Steve. Who cares about Iraq or the economy or the crisis with health care? I'm glad my husband and I have to spend the first week of each month earning enough money to buy health insurance for our family. Making sure gay people can't marry each other is much more important.
When God decided to destroy the five cities of the plain, he sent angels to rescue Lot and his family. The men of Sodom sought to rape the angels. Lot offered the men his daughters whom he said were virgins, but the men were not interested.
I ranted about this on a similar thread yesterday.. I'll spare you all the particulars.. The main thing is separation of church and state.... Been that way since day one... And as Bill Parcell opines in some goofy assed commercial... That's a good thing, not a bad thing. And if we want to keep it that way, (as we should imo) then the first step is to keep this loser as far away from the oval office as is humanly possible... This guy and his theo-loonbat-crazy ideas almost makes GeeDub look statemanlike and sane by comparision... almost...
Truth is, they both need swept out of politics and told to stay out!!! Frankly I wouldn't trust either one to mow the lawn correctly, let alone try to run the country.. In Bush's case, ever again, in Huckleberry's case not even once. It continues to amaze me how either one of these sadassed motherfuckers ever got as far as they did....... I know they both probably have silver spoons and greasy frontmen up their asses, but someone had to vote for these screwballs at some point and and that someone sure as hell wasn't me......JD
Great, he's a liar as well as theocrat.
Ian McGarrett @ 109:
THIERS no wonder to that no cowboy likes a saddle thats not broke in!!!!!!!!
Huckabee also vows to turn the West Wing into the baddest Hell House ever in October of 2009.
Interesting Fact: God doesn't have a vote.
The sanctity of human life is on the Republican platform? Cue the bomb! Cue the waterboard! Cue the sanctions! Cue the bullshit!
Fanon @ 82:
I asked a man once - who believed Christianity was the only true and valid religion - about the Lot story. He basically told me that Lot's daughters were sluts and temptresses who got Lot drunk in order to have sex. He believed Lot was totally innocent of the charges of incest.
Always blame the women, eh?
When Huckabee endorses "traditional" marriage, is that the pre-1890 or post-1890 tradition? Look up Romney's theology regarding that date, when polygamy was disavowed.
Does Huckabee want to go back to the "traditional" marriage of the old testament and Saudi Arabia, where every man that can afford it gets four wives and a few concubines?
Where do I sign up?
It has been a goal of Christians like Huckabee to insert god into the Constitution since it was ratified. There is a wonderful book that details some of it called, "The Godless Constitution." Meaning, god isn't mentioned anywhere in it. The only thing that shocked me was the way he announced it. It was as though he forgot this was going to get national coverage now that he is a contender. Is this the sort of youtube moment that will sink his chances? We can only hope.
How many lives has gay marriage taken? How many billions of dollars to the national debt has gay marriage added? Conservatives like Huckabee need to be deported for national security reasons.
Weaseldog @ 77:
It makes the bible thumpers angry when when even children can see right through the bullshit.
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the republican candidates are getting more and more cwazy by the day...
did you hear romney... telling folks in michigan how he'd get rid of fuel efficiency standards, and those pesky pensions keeping the american corporations down...
mccain, on the other, sorry your jobs aint coming back from china... stwaight talk...
now, huck is all giddy cause he's pandering to the baser values of Rep base...
what a lot of morons...
Traditional marriage=Divorce? NOT! Obviously the "traditional marriage" comment refers to gay marriage. He wants an amendment to make the only legal marriage to be between a man and a woman.
I think because he linked his policy to god... is what's going to doom him in general. The secret is not use religion to make policy.. because if a religious policy enter the constitution, it'll be an immediate contradiction of the first rule, freedom of religion. And what many people fail to resect is that american people have a right not to be religious, if they choose so.
Yes Huckleberry is insane. But lets keep in mind that the President doesn't have anything to do with Constitutional Ammendments. (at least not according to the Constitution.) That is the business of the Congress and 50 seperate state legislatures.
Sam @ 46:
Yes, I've been wondering about this Elephant in the room, like, forever. Does the Republicans' pro-life stance also mean that they will abolish the death penalty? Does anyone know if that question has been raised?
Oh please, oh please, let Huck be nominated.
I they make Divorce unconstitutional, THAT will kill marriage for good.
Nobody but NOBODY will enter into a contract that they cannot get out of.
On the bright side, they won't be able to blame the destruction of marriage on the gays.
Or, more simply, that he's willing to pander to any audience, at any time, saying anything he thinks they'll want to hear. I think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
We go from President Chimpy-Psycho-Hose Beast to President Christianist-Ayatollah-Assahollah.
Man! that's progress!!!
tyree @ 112:
I'm not a theologian so I can't be certain on this but I think the angels were virgins too.
As for the daughters getting themselves preggers by their dad, in the biblical account Sodom had been destroyed and the girls thought they were the only folks left and that this was the only way to repopulate. I think the moral of the story is that rape is okay if: you get someone drunk first; it involves a member of your immediate family; and your intentions are good. However, since as I said, I am no theologian perhaps we should get Mr. Huckabee's comment on this.
Huck's not got a Theology degree either , for that matter...
Based on his little wannabe theocrat rant and his piss-poor attempt to spin it as being "out of context", though, i hereby rename him Ayatollah al Huqa'abi
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