The Situation Room: Huckabee Gets <i>More</i> Biblical
By Nicole Belle Thursday Jan 17, 2008 11:45am
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Not content with saying that the Constitution should be amended to reflect the word of God (as if that wasn't horrifying enough to those of us who value the separation between Church and State), Huckabee keeps playing to his evangelical base with an interview at Belief.net, in which he invokes scripture as his guide for upholding the law:
Is it your goal to bring the Constitution into strict conformity with the Bible? Some people would consider that a kind of dangerous undertaking, particularly given the variety of biblical interpretations.
Well, I don't think that's a radical view to say we're going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we're going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what's been historic.
While this is likely music to the ears of many of the religious right looking to force themselves into government, Huckabee's more populist rhetoric (like caring for the poor and the environment) makes him far less attractive. Several people I've spoken with think that Huckabee's faith-based Constitution comments will be the death knell to his campaign, what do you think?
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Knowing this country this guy will probably be the next President.
I seem to recall that there are many places in the bible where marriage constitutes one man with multiple wives.
Let's hope Huck wins the nominations. He's such a looney cuckoo. After 8 years of Bush America deserves a total nutjob to take us over the cliff.
I certainly hope so.
Bible based constitution = no working on the sabbath, no more football, no wearing two threads together, no more disobedient wives or children, no more infidels, and slavery and public stoning for all! One quarter of this country thinks this is just dandy.
God help America.
i don't know what scares me more:
huckster, the smiling theocrat, who doesn't believe in science
or the fact the a huge swath of the GOP actually supports this dude...
God, I hope so! (The death knell thing.) Also, why is Huck so obsessed with bestiality? Is there some sort of farmboy, emotional scar we don't know about?
While this kind of talk scares me beyond all reason, once I think a little about it, it seems like it could never move beyond empty talk.
I mean, to amend the Constitution requires 2/3 of both houses to approve, and I cannot imagine seeing that kind of support for something so radical coming about.
But then again, it seems like "they" never cease to surprise me.
Trying very hard not to hate these sorts of people (Huckabee and the loony fundies who think like him). What keeps me from going over the edge is the knowledge that their ideas hurt themselves as much as me and mine.
Still...
LOL oh Man
http://tinyurl.com/29o69y
The government should get out of the marriage business, as well as any ideas of amending the constitution in an effort to define marriage.
Gay marriages do not threaten hetero marriages. This is once again a simple case of homophobia.
Wow... a man and animal? And to throw children into the mix? What part of CONSENTING ADULTS is not understood? Let's scare the crap out of everyone that men will be attempting to marry their pets, and even the neighborhood children. Seems the men want to have a shot at anything that moves!!! Or at least we should all be very afraid of MAN. They apparently have no distinction between animals and children unless you specifically spell it out. Got anything you care to share with us Mitt? Any fantasies??
Bonkers @ 9:
...And, of course, the feeling that this sort of talk will torpedo his campaign and our nominee will end up running against McZombie. Really, Huck looks like he is just setting himself up for a lucrative televangelist scam, post-political career.
Doesn't he realize that "a man and three women" was perfectly acceptable, biblically? What an idiot.
Republican conservatives who are not short-sighted religious fanatics will, if they are truly honest with themselves, have to reject Huchabee's idea to now change our 200 year old constitution in such a radical way. It is so absurd. I think he just signed his death warrant for the November election, IF he ever manages to be the GOP's nominee.
The Republicans always have at least one guy like this in the primaries. He keeps the religious right onboard, but the party will dump him before the convention. It's been fun watching the GOoPers self-destruct, though. Tom DeLay says that a McCain nomination will be the end of the Republican Party. Sounds good to me.
txlvn @ 12:
My bad... should have read ... not mitt...
I don't want any religious person who accepts or believes in Revelation’s Armageddon scenario gaining Presidential access to nuclear weapons, bomb or missiles.
Notes: Military personnel have to go through intensive screening in varying degrees before they are allowed near weapons, nuclear weapons, bomb or missiles to ensure they do not hurt themselves or others without just cause. Should not a presidential candidate undergo this same screening?
Time for a non-religious president...
someone who believes in science and doesn't
speak with invisible beings....
Muslim theocracy or a christian one...
No thanks
txlvn @ 17:
Maybe this is a sign I should just shut up.... MIKE... not MITT
Can you imagine if this guy becomes president? I'm moving to Canada! We cannot survive with another God boy in the White House.
"Several people I’ve spoken with think that Huckabee’s faith-based Constitution comments will be the death knell to his campaign, what do you think?:
I think you really cannot underestimate the intelligence of the American people. So, apparently, does Huckabee.
mroom @ 2:
And the husband can sleep with his wives' handmaidens too.
Does the Bible specify a handmaiden's gender?
mroom @ 2:
I seem to remember at least a couple of cases of incest as well. So is that OK?
I had been seriously considering uping the ante in my relationship with my dog Scruffy (if you get my drift), until my cat, Cletus showed up, all purring and rubbing my leg, wearing a Confederate flag scarf. Man, I might have to reconsider my options.
Canuck @ 11:
Of course. But The Biblical Schmiblicals are poised to take over the U.S. Government now. They've been infiltrating the ranks of government from the local to federal levels for 15 years in stealth. Lying about who they are and what their real agenda is.
I wonder why he would be populist which is mostly a good thing and then so ignorant about this bible he espouses?
If he gets the GOP nomination, we're all in a lot more trouble than even NOW, with this nutjob in the white house.
My dog try to hump my leg yesterday. Is he going to hell?
On NPR this morning, some SC citizens were giving their opinions of Huckabee. Several thought he was just peachy dandy, being a man who believes in their lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Unfortunately that's as far as some people care to think--just give them the right category that the man falls in, and they'll fall in behind him, regardless of the truth of his stands. Obedience to authority is one of their prime markers. And I do mean *him* and not *her.*
I hope to hell it's Huck's campaign's death knell, tho I doubt it. Remember: most people are average.
There is one way to refutre these idiotic comments once and for all, will a journalist please have the sense to do it.....???
Gay marriage is legal for the vast majority of our Western allies....as is gays in the military, for that matter.
In these countries that have already permitted gay marriage...has the institution collapsed? Are there people clamoring for inter-species marriage? Adults and children tieing the knot? Have married people fled their partners in droves to go gay? Has the institution of marriage been irreconciably damaged? Has there even been been the tiniest problem?
Of course not. Since we already have working models of our allies doing this, the fear argument can no longer fly.
So why does nobody...NOBODY...ever point this out, and refute fearmongers and hatemongers for what they are...self-righteous bigots.
Gay people pay taxes too. For what?
Mike "Jaayyysssus" Huckabee is trying to appeal to those few who believes that Rapture is coming, and those who are willing to do their damnest (using any means possible, including lying,cheating,bully,making war,and murder) to beat everyone to the door by becoming the few people who can ascend into the heaven.
Gay marriages have existed here in Canada for several years and for almost everyone I know it's a non issue. Maybe I just am in more progressive circles but I don't think it's neccessarily so. It doesn't affect me and my marriage and I know have gay friends who are now in more stable, legally recognized relationships.
If the Huckster gets elected, come to Canada. We're not perfect, but it's pretty good up here. Besides for some reason, it's not as cold as it used to be.
This desperate freak is losing his fucking mind because he lost the last two primaries. Boy has Dubyah lowered the bar for Republicans. Just what this nation needs: President Fucking Moses.
L.A. Confidential @ 1:
Actually, I think quite the opposite is true. While this county has shown a complete lack of sense for the past few years, one thing that is clear is that the vast majority of Americans are completely opposed to changing the Constitution as Huck wants. This was a loser for Bush and company. While many supported State legislation to ban gay marriage, there wasn't much support on a national level.
Huckabee appears to be quickly becoming a non-entity and has now resorted to the most desperate of GOP tactics, proclaiming that he is the best bigot of the crowd. While this may appeal to the GOP's loonier base, it doesn't play well with the rest of the nation. This is a sad attempt to use bigotry to look better and it has failed in the past.
give them enough rope....
Indeed. It's a nonsensical phrase which could mean anything.
"I'm not comparing gay marriage to beastiality, I'm just making a comparison between gay marriage and people marrying animals. There's a difference."
BTW, I guess today is the big fund raising day for John Edwards. I'm rooting for him big time. I don't know who else here is, but I just donated 50 bucks. The first time I've ever donated to a campaign
Cat @ 35:
...and they will make a shovel.
"Several people I’ve spoken with think that Huckabee’s faith-based Constitution comments will be the death knell to his campaign, what do you think?"
I think his Constitution comments will be the death knell of his campaign and so do many Evangelicals that I know. Several have commented to me that Huckabee's views are the views that he wants to impose on America. He can claim that they are "God(s)" views but in the end everyone knows they are his. If Huckabee gets into office those views will become more extreme and will make the Taliban look like Saints. Huckabee is a very dangerous man to all Americans.
God, I hope so.
(pun totally intended.)
You gotta love ol' Hucksterbe. He the logical manifestation of Nixon's Southern Strategy and Rove's Potemkin political polemics. The underlying arrogance of the Republicans has been that they could have their cake and eat it too with the fine tuning of direct mailing, push polls and coercion of the MSM.
The entire process of presidential selection has become more of a cyclical vaudevillian circuit that a genuine examination of cultural, economic and social issues of the body politic.
seevee @ 25:
Being a devout "Pastafarian" I can assure you that it's okay to marry your favorite; however, you must not mix species. That's a bozo no-no! Take my advice and wed the pup. You can always have a little pussy on the side.
Ace Armstrong @ 41:
It's their idea of entitlement, pure and unadulterated. We need the US populace to THINK. How is this to be done?
Weaseldog @ 28:
Only if there's a marriage proposal, a ring, date set and caterer lined up. Otherwise... it's just "messin' around"... and that doesn't count unless your a democrat in office.
The bible-thumping is mainstream in S.C. It's caring for the poor and the environment that's gonna kill him.
How 'bout this Huck Take the plank out of your own eye before you try to remove the speck out of your brothers eye and no I don't want you as a referee for my bedroom gymnastics,thanks
Who would he choose for his veep, Little Ricky Santorum?
Rub R. D'Key @ 42:
I don't know. Scruffy can be a bitch when he's jealous (I know, I know, it's not only bestiality, but homosexual bestiality). By the way, if the animal is the instigator, is it called "humanality"?
If I wanted to live in the land of make believe, I'd move to Mister Roger's neighborhood.
"A man and a child" how hypocritcal, since the bible has plenty of stories involving men marrying children. And most of the religions tied to the bible have been marrying children for centuries. Good god, take away the "marriage" label and craft laws that give same sex couples the exact same rights as married couples and call it lifemates and these religious morons wouldnt have anything to bitch about.
The "Institution" of Marriage is a joke anyway. Especially concerning Republicans, as they are constantly sneaking around behind their wives and fcking other men and trying to fck children. And probably fcking animals too. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the next Republican sex scandal being beast on man. Maybe Lieberman on Guliani in a dark Senate closet. I can Hear Hannity defending Guliani now "Hey, he's wearing a dress so technically he's not gay!"
Hukabee forgets that the oath of office requires him to honor and defend the constitution. Gods laws are simply not considered. If he wants to run for Pope he should run for Pope! Personally I am enjoying the Huck revival tour. He gets creepier and creepier, proving how backwards, bigoted, and uniformed the evangelical mind is. I hope by the time he finishes more people share my utter amazement that he could get to run as a candidate, it's a national embarrassment. I think he will ultimately fail but my inner contrarian would like to see him win the Republican nomination, the utter embarrassment of the social and paleo conservative wings of the republican party would be sweet indeed.
I can see it now...a half hour of Devotion prior to the next State of the Union Address and Dana Peroxide saying the lords prayer prior to press briefings.
Weaseldog @ 28:
No, but if you enjoyed it, you should probably have his nails clipped. ;>)
JudyLou @ 29:
How disappointing this NPR story was. They didn't balance the story by speaking to a single repug that supports a separation of church and state.
There must be at least one in S.C., right?!?
I keep hoping he is faking this whole "holy" thing just to get the votes of people who believe in that stuff, but my hopes are fading away.
Did anyone else notice the biased (and irrelevant) framing of the story at the beginning of Brian Todd's "report"? Todd begins by saying, "Who says the Democrats hold the patent on race and gender politics?" Um, you just did, Mr. Todd. What does your framing have to do with Huckabee's comments on marriage?
pissed off patricia @ 55:
Kinda like Joseph Smith? An authentic charlatan?
Andy @ 52:
You actually think she knows anything about it, other than it's a prayer and has something to do with the Lord?
/snark
Peoples Front of Judea @ 24:
It must be. Catholic priests have been doing it since 1 A.D.
Death knell, Nicole, total death knell. Anyone who reads what he said about the Constitution is going to be put off by it -- except for the Crazy Evangelicals. Anyone but a benighted fool can see that this man is clearly unfit for any public office. There are a lot of benighted fools out there, but not enough to salvage Huckabee's campaign. In fact, I'd bet that Huckabee knows that, as of now, only a miracle could get him the nomination -- just like it took God's hand to get the nomination for George W. (according to twice promoted General Boykin).
Huckabee believes in miracles, of course, but he isn't so crazy as to EXPECT one; and in the meantime he wants to work the room -- his audience/base is the combination of intellectually blind and credulous Evangelicals who want a theocratic government, and he means to tighten his bond with them for future political ventures. As Huckabee sees it, the Lord's way, after all, may not be to select him for the White House just yet. But, oh I'm sure he thinks that He has something "special" in mind for him.
The good news (no, not the "gospel") is that Huckabee may just divide the already rattled Republican constituency, peeling off enough votes and interest from the Party's nominee to cinch a victory for whoever the Dems elect.
I understand that Wolf Blitzer has extensive experience investigating each facet of what Huckabee mentioned in that statement....
George Bush ran on the fact that God spoke to him and told him to run. He has referenced taking his direction from his Higher Father.
Not only is this NOT a death knell for Hucjabee, it may well win him the nomination and make him very difficult to run against. If you ask a lot of the midwest and south, the Bible trumps the Constitution.
And I wouldn't want to be the Dem that has to run against God.
Mr. Huckabee, I am a native South Carolinian. The rebel flag is not "our" flag. The South Carolina flag, consisting of a palmetto tree and a crescent moon against a blue background, represents the independence that was won in the Revolutionary War. And please, try not to mouth your vulgar pole comments from the pulpit. Now, that just wouldn't be appropriate, would it?
Huckabee want's to change the Constitution to be more Biblical. But on the Confederate flag:
ABC New blog
Or, as he said in bubba-ese:
I not surprised he has no problem ramming his religion down other people's throats. But it would be nice if he was consistent on this "states rats" crap.
Huckabuck is insane. That's all we need to know about him. He is insane and the people who support him are insane.
He is looking to make a name for himself and will become a televangelist and suck the poor bastards dry of their Social Security checks.
Again, we should hang them with their own rope:
Do not disagree with any of them. In fact, I think we should go on their sites, and in public, and demand that any public office holder must live up to the Ten Commandments or leave office.
Michael @ 32:
I have been watching the mockery of the U.S.Constitution by the current White House occupants and have been doing some serious planning in the event that any more nutjobs take up residence after them. I've heard that British Columbia is wonderful and have visited Ontario many, many times so I am hoping to be ready in the event that my beloved country goes farther down their current, destructive path of pre-emptive strikes against other nations that "might" threaten us. This isn't the country I grew up in and I'm not going to stay here if the current climate of spying on citizens, corporatism and corruption continue. I suggest that everyone weigh their options seriously as well because I am really, really worried.
First of all, seeing as how there have already been marriages between people and animals (usually in the southern redneck states), I don't see how this crackpot can claim that somehow gay marriage will lead to this behavior.
Secondly, what consenting adults do in their private, personal lives is no business of the church. If three men and two women want to join in marriage with each other, then who the fuck is the government, or least of all, the church, to intervene?
He makes it seem as if his entire presidential run is based on his personal homophobia and the need to demonize the gay community.
Speculation that he might be the major VP contender for any of the repiglican candidates, is enough to make any intelligent person vomit.
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fwacbar @ 59:
Ah, Americans and their fun loving knowledge of history.
protogenes @ 70:
ok, so that made me laugh out loud...
Republicans and Democrats agree!
The gay marriage issue will never be resolved because they both use it
as a wedge. The 'CONTROVERSY' surrounding abortion will never die for the
same reason. "Racial Equality"? Forget it...it exists SOLELY as a media issue.
Organizations that promote these issues DO NOT want to go out of business, right?
Therefore they feign outrage and get photo ops and nothing happens.
It's been the same way for my entire life.
Would that ban a number of current religious groups? It seems like every time some religious nut gets a following of any size it becomes doctrine that the leader (and maybe a few long time underlings) gets to have sex with children or other women or other men. Waco, Fundie Mormons, Jim Jones, Ted Haggard, and other, smaller sects - we had one in Vancouver, WA make the news in the past year. I'm sure you all can name someone in your neck of the woods. Most of these are 'bible believers' and 'Christian' churches.
I don't trust anyone who wears religion on his or her sleeve, whatever its name.
How's Britney's little sister doing? When is she due?
Thanks for the invitation, Michael.
It seems to me that, should this nation survive, we will one day look back on this time in disbelief and shame.
If our history teaches us anything it's that civil rights cannot be denied in the long run. It also suggests that the "White male Christians" will be the ones to oppose civil rights most fiercely.
It's an old story. It was not so very long ago that "Good Christian men" stood in halls of congress and argued that slavery was morally correct and ordained by God. The bible was used to back up their claims.
It wasn't until 1967 (or so I've read) that the last of America's anti-miscegenation laws - laws preventing people of two different races from getting married - were abolished. The proponets of those laws were also "Good Christian Men". The bible was again used to justify the discrimination.
How do we feel about that?
I'd imagine people in the not too distant future will look back upon us and feel the same way. I'd imagine that they could not even comprehend that rational people could have stood, publicly, and argued in favor of biggotry. Once again those same "Good Christian men". Once again using the bible to condone their intollerence.
Only if there is a god.
'Samson @ # 17"
It made me laugh out loud also.
Interesting thing is how Matthew 27:48 and Mark 15:36 refer to Jesus crying out to Elias, and people soaking a sponge with vinegar and giving it to him to drink. In John 19:29 there's no mention of Jesus crying out from the cross for his unresponsive god, but of his thirsting and then getting the sponge of vinegar. They weren't taunting him, but presumably giving him moerin, a wine type vinegar derived from mandrake and used in Israel as a pain killer. Josephus a historian of the time described the harvesting of mandrake. The funny thing is one of it's possible side affects was catalepsy, where one could fall into a death-like swoon, be taken down, and revive later.
And from this comes a religion.
Cat @ 35:
...and the entire country could "hang".
Not really what I want.
Huckabee suffers from a particular form of homophobia, a fear of teh Evil Creeping Gayness. It's like a young boy afraid of getting cooties from a young girl.
He's a sick man, and should not be allowed anywhere near public office.
Has no one read SAME SEX UNIONS IN PRE-MODERN EUROPE by John Boswell?
Wait, is he saying there is no polygamy in the bible? Is he saying there is no marriage between adults and children in the bible?
Thank God for Phuk-a-bee!
Instead of getting a divorce I'll be able to simply sell my wife. My daughters are getting expensive too, might as well sell them off rather than pay for their college education.
I just love this strict biblical interpretation stuff!
Go America! Let's hear it for God-driven Christian Theocracy replacing un-enlightened Democracy!
Just one thing. Will I really have to offer an entire calf as a burnt sacrifice in thanks?
Shadowgm @ 81:
Mad Squirrel Disease:
http://www.greysquirrel.net/brain.html
Greg,
Relax. You can just get a burger instead of having to burn an entire calf. Just be sure it's well done.
R.R.
"Death knell?" Hardly. Huckabee is a preacher, so he's in it for the long haul. He'll keep talking even if nobody's listening. He intends to be the honcho primero of the religious right, and running for president is how he'll get there. You watch how he pulls together all the wacko KKKristians into a cohesive bloc of voters that he can use as an enormous bargaining chip. Huck wants to be a king maker.
Huckabee makes many sane Christian's roll there eyes.
StirFry 6:66
H**ka/bee? F**ka/thee!
somebody fix the time machine and send Huck back to 2008 BCE
“You don’t want anyone from out of state comin’ down and telling you what to do with your flag. In fact, if somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag we’d tell them where to put the pole.”
Huck the Impaler. Has a nice ring to it.
Hell, he had me at let all the rapists go that found God. That and, "It was a vicious attack dog, could have turned on them in a second. They had to preemptively kill it."
No, Ricky's an idolater worshiping the whore in Rome. By the way there are various stripes of RepubliKKKers here in SC not gloming on to Huckster. Tons of Ron Paul (John Birch Society) signs and plenty for McCain. Problem for St John is everyone remembers from the last time he ran that McC is crazy and has a black child. Plus, he's now older than dirt.
In the 21st century, and people like Huckabee are still comparing homosexuals to non-human animals?
What if, in the 60's, somebody had used a similar argument when speaking about allowing African-Americans to use "white" washrooms?
"I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of public bathroom use so that it can a caucasian, an african-american, and a dog."
What if, only a few years earlier, somebody had used a similar argument when speaking about allowing women to vote?
"I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the laws of voting so that it can mean man, a woman, and even a cocker spaniel has a right to vote."
Um, so why isn't my dog allowed to vote, anyways?
"what do you think?"
what do i think?
i think his name is huck.
huck huckabee.
and he's a jesus man.
Motherbear @ 67:
And what amazes me is that a whole LOT of people in this country seem to be just fine with the kind of country this would become under such a theocracy! Otherwise, I wouldn't be so worried that someone with views as extreme as the Huckster might actually get elected, but I wouldn't put it past these holier-than-thou folks that just might actually elect him.
I'm on board with Andrew Sullivan's take: until these clowns propose - and try to get passed - a Constitutional amendment banning divorce for any reason, they are simply hypocrites. Jesus prohibited divorce; he said nothing about gays at all.
Oops! Sorry about the all-bold in the message above.
I'm sick of people comparing humans to animals.
The next time a Republican complains about FOX NEWS not being allowed to interview a Democrat, the AUTOMATIC response should be,
"Well, if we do that, next we'll have to allow Barnyard Animals to interview Democrats!"
Jeff @ 83:
No, he's not SAYING that, he's just conveniently ignoring it (or REALLY doesn't know his bible and/or paid little attention in history class).
His entire argument is incorrect since it's based upon supposedly wanting to NOT change the institution of marriage from what it has always been, when in reality, the institution has changed with the times, time after time.
Somewhere in the bible it says something about Jesus abhoring the hypocrite. If we enshrine that into the Constitution, that would disenfanchise nearly every politician and virtually every republiKKKer.
I'm against theocracies of any kind. BUT, if you look at theocracies, usually the leader is a respected authority within that religion. Usually, it is the recognized head of the religion in that region. It is NOT usually some dumbass who cooks squirrels in a popcorn popper.
WOOF!
His words resonate with the people who actually understand what he is saying in the context of a bible-based Christian world view, which, by the way, doesn't foretell anything resembling a theocracy, much less amending the Constitution to neuter the "separation clause." The people who are manufacturing outrage over his recent comments wouldn't be swinging over to vote for Huckabee anyway, presuming he wins the Republican nomination (quite a long shot on that).
theWalrus @ 3:
Careful what you wish for...
PASS the pat robertson KOOLAID to chuck norris PLEASE............
peaceful easy feeling @ 103:
So, you have some kind of inside information that Huckabee doesn't mean what he is saying? I don't have to manufacture outrage; the guy pisses me off.
seevee @ 48:
Can you guys keep this going? You're killing me.
This guy's toast. McCain is going to wipe the floor with him.
Let us not listen to him when he's pandering to his base.
Anony-mouse @ 98:
Sheep: Baaaaaaaaa.
Hillary: Well, let me just say that I've worked for over 35 years for real change.
Sheep: Baaaaaaaaa.
Cow: Mooooooo.
Edwards: Senator Clinton represents the Status Quo.
Hens: Cluck-cluck-cluck-cluck-cluck.
Obama: I am reminded of Martin Luther King, Jr. ...
Sheep: Two legs baaaaaad. Four legs behhhhhhhtter ...
CNN: "Who says the Democrats hold the patent on race and gender politics?"
umm, you just did, fuckos.
There's kind of a difference between two candidates who want to claim that they will elevate the rights of minorities bettr than the other and two candidates who say that they hate minorities more than the other.
"He's simply saying gay rights groups are trying to pick a fight" when they try to discourage blatant discrimination against them.
fuck CNN.
I wonder if the dumbass racist homophobes that Huckabee is pandering to understand that the president has no authority over either gay marriage or state flags? I'm guessing no, since they're fucking idiots anyway.
peaceful easy feeling @ 103:
You couldn't be more full of shit. 'A bible-based Christian world view' is as far away from Huck and His followers as it could ever be. A'true Christian' is a rare person who shutters at what these hate-mongers spew.
Old Billy @ 107:
I second that. Totally hilarious and I Need a good laugh.
David Hawes @ 113:
Way to speak the truth in love, friend. ;)
Hukabee forgets that the oath of office requires him to honor and defend the constitution
Pastor Donald Wilton at the Southern Baptist Convention said " Ours is not the Constitution of America - Ours is the Constitution of the Almighty God". If Huck should win - which Constitution would he be promising to uphold. I bet he will never be asked that question.
When Huckabee is caught in a gay relationship with Chuck Norris, I want to be the first to use the headline: Huck fucks Chuck.
peaceful easy feeling @ 115:
And with Love I must correct You. Read the words of Christ and then get back to Me about Huck and His kind. Christian? Not somuch.
How many other countries let loser enemies fly their loser enemy flag after a war?
And since we're talkin' bestiality, if Huckabee has sex with Norris' mallards, I want to be the one who gets credit for "Huck fucks Chuck's Ducks."
justabill @ 119:
Exactly. One of the main reasons we have a perverted sense of U.S. History is that the losers basically got to write THEIR version of history as THE version of history. I get so sick of all the "it was a noble cause" crap you hear in the south. Bite me - you lost; GET OVER IT!!
You never hear about the 3/5 rule of representation stuffed into the Constitution because the slave states whined about being outvoted in Congress (the slave states were allowed to count each slave as "3/5ths of a human" to bump up their number of House representatives. And, no, these 3/5 humans could not vote. Talk about utter hypocrisy!)
Question: What terrorist leader that fought against the U.S. caused more U.S. soldiers' deaths than any other leader?
Answer: Robert E. Lee
Has Phuckabee been speaking with Santorum?
The death knell? No not yet, but soon. Huckabee's bigoted christian thinking is old. Many of the Believers have died in the past seven years. Still more are on their deathbeds. They will go knowing that they have done everything possible to control those who do not believe as they do. It must be comforting for them. We should all smile along with them as they expell their last rancid breaths, knowing that at last their reward has come.
clay potts @ 123:
Amen
A wolf in sheep's clothing is bad. A Christian in wolf's clothing is worse.
He's a Dominionist
This isn't surprising
I wonder how the log cabin repubs feel
As for the flag = what do African America South Carolinians feel? Racist asshole
and if Huckabee wasn't equating it to beatality WHY in Santorium's name put it in there?
Matt in Texas @ 121:
There are many things You don't hear about. To this day,southerners(and I live in Floriduh) still refer to The Civil war as 'the war of Northern aggression' leaving out the fact that the first shots of the war were fired at Fort Sumpter in Charleston harbor.
In short America will become more like the Muslims. For those who read the bible and understood that woman were submissive to their husband. Woman were given in marriage at a young age and didn't work only in the home. Yes the people lived off the fields and had slaves to do the heavy work. Men could have wives and concubines. Looks more like the Jewish religion then Christianity. Well King Solomon was a great King and now Rev. Huck will replace him. If they Bush base does vote for this hypocrite then the rest of the world will know just how stupid Americans have become. It will make it much easier for any country to take over the USA. The Saudi are doing well with their plan of giving Trillions of dollars in loans to the US and buying up shares of US banks. For those who forgot when you can't make your car or house payment it gets repossessed, as the Saudi King will do when he see the Stock Market drop to 9000. The Saudi plan is working well as God isn't protecting America because Satan is running the United States. So all those on their knees in church listen to Pastors like Rev. Huck are really praying to Satan and it shows with the mess the US is in right now.
David Hawes @ 118:
The words of Jesus Christ? I suggest you study John 8 (especially up through verse 11) and then get back to me. ;)
I know the verses. So He commanded her to sin no more after he had drove off those who would stone the adultress saying 'You without sin cast the first stone'. So. Tell Me what this has to do with Huck and His ilk?
David Hawes @ 130:
Yeah, but the Bible conveniently leaves out the fact that a stone DID come hurtling out of the pack, bopping the poor sinner on the head, which caused Jesus to say, in frustration, "Mom, will you PLEASE quit following me around!!"
David Hawes @ 130:
The implications are pretty obvious, since you (and many others) are quite ready to subject Huckabee and his supporters to a verbal "stoning" because he expressed an opinion which is disagreeable, which was not even a crime the last time I checked.
Gee, do you think he might be talking about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
peaceful easy feeling @ 132:
Again,bullshit. You choose to characterise Myself and others as 'being holier than thou' ie.accusing Him of 'sinning'. Nope. I was speaking TO YOU who claimed He is following a 'bible-based Christian world view'. It seems to Me that Huck and His ilk have a monopoly on 'casting stones' and judgeing those they fear.
It's time for Americans to stand up to the evangelicals and tell them to STFU. The average Christian is a good, decent person, but the evangelical/born-again/fundamentalist crowd is nothing but a bunch of fascist reality-deniers. Christians aren't the problem: fundamentalists are the problem, and Huckabee is the worst kind.
This kind of Christofascism has to be faught as vigorously as "Islamofascism." Huck and his kind are exactly the kind of "false prophets" that Christ said would come claiming to be doing HIS work.
If Christians want to protect marriage, they need to follow CHRIST's own words--"What God has joined, let no man put asunder." Instead of attacking gay marriage, they should be trying to outlaw divorce. The fact that they ignore Christ's commands shows that they aren't concerned about aligning with the word of God; they only care about making everyone else align with their chosen rules. If Christ were here, he'd blast Huck into dust before going somewhere to comfort AIDS patients. Christ would have nothing to do with this hate-spewing Christofascists.
David Hawes @ 134:
I should say 'casting stones' behind the claim of being Christian.
Paul B. @ 135:
David Hawes @ 137:
my exact point
If Huckabee actually got his wish and got Constitutional amendments on a ballot, the measures would be overwhelmingly defeated by huige margins. which would be a good thing, because these are the kinds of things that are so divisive that civil wars could be the result, were they actually to pass.
Weaseldog @ 28:
Yes I am afraid he is. And so is your leg. . . .
David Hawes @ 138:
Well, duh...
But trying to convince someone who is already drinking the kool-aid (a la Peaceful Easy Eagles Fan) requires something other than a logical argument. It seems they respond to hyperbolic, strangely homo-erotic father figures, though. Maybe David Carradine is available?
JR @ 140:
If your eye is the problem, pluck it out!
(I always liked this verse, but mostly because you rarely hear about people plucking eyes.)
Old Billy @ 141:
Iknow. But I Love a good debate when I can turn these so-called Christians back on themselves.
Watching Huckabee pandering to the base is sort of like watching bestiality in action.
Huckabee throws around concepts about marriage and relationships like he should be the 'decider' of these things because it's his duty to make sure our country and Constitution is adjusted to his and his cronies liking. Screw the rest of society. Consider, if it did happen they got the power, do you think they'd stop with the persecution of homosexuals and redefining women's rights? After all, by biblical law it's all right with god to own slaves. What to do with all the overcrowded jails and prisons? Many who are serving long terms for minor offenses only because of draconian mandatory sentences. The next logical step, in their minds, would be to make them all slaves. Can't happen? Look what the Bush regime has accomplished in a seven years.
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WHAT KIND OF CHRISTIAN WISHES TO WIN THE ARGUMENT OVER WHO PUT MORE PEOPLE TO DEATH?
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PRESERVE MARRIAGE...
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peaceful easy feeling @ 103:
Oh, you're full of shit.
Theocracy: government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided
Yeah, and you just proved my point with the "bible based Christian world view" nonsense.
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THE CONFEDERATE LOST THAT WAR
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peaceful easy feeling @ 132:
Well, when you express an opinion that is so full of nonsense, you can't expect people of reason to sit back and just accept it, ya know.
Stupidity should be a crime.
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