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It's got to be tough out there for a Republican presidential candidate. What makes it easier is that that their electorate generally doesn't do a lot deep thinking beyond the platitudes and talking points given to them. Case in point: Mitt Romney, who has decided that his platfom is that Washington is broken and you need an experienced business leader to guide it back on track, the President as a CEO, if you will.

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The only problem? Guess who broke Washington and put it off track? That's right, the man who ran as the MBA President. Tell me again how you run as a change candidate using the exact same positioning as the man you're trying to succeed? And it's all the more troubling when you hear Romney conflate issues to sound convincing that he's the guy to steer us out of our economic woes...I'm not sure, but I think he says he has to lay off federal employees to do that. Judge for yourself:

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There’s no question that if you’re in the business world and you’re trying to save a business that’s in trouble, that you’re not going to be successful 100% of the time. And I’m pretty proud of the fact that we were successful many, many times. We grew jobs quite dramatically in many settings, but often times when an enterprise is in real trouble, you have to try to cut back to save it. And I’ll tell you, when you look at Washington and how badly broken Washington is, you’re going to have to have somebody who can go there and say, ‘You know what? There are too many bureaucrats. There are too many employees in government. We’re going to have to cut back in Washington. I know how to do that and get Washington back on track.

This is fundamentally, I believe, an election about changing Washington. About doing to Washington what has to be done to get America back on track so we can re-grow our economy. And I’ll tell you one thing, Chris: the only way you’re going to have somebody who understands how to rebuild an economy is to have somebody who has been in the economy. Who knows what it’s like to see jobs come and go. Who’s fought to try to build businesses and build jobs. We’re competing around the world now, with China and India, tougher competition than we’ve ever faced before. It’s going to helpful to have a president, when we’re looking at agreements to work out with other countries on trade, who knows what impact those agreements will have on American jobs. Who knows, for instance, when there are tax incentives put in place, how it’s going to change jobs in this country. I am intimately familiar with how our economy works. I’m working very hard to make sure that the workers of this country have a brighter future and I will never accept the idea that jobs are gone in America. I’m going to fight to bring back jobs and to grow this country.

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freespeak's picture

I wonder if republicans would hold CEO Romney accountable for our stock price (USD)
or if they would just be happy to double his personal income in exchange for more big dig no bid contracts?

Lollimom's picture

When you use a for-profit corporation as a paradigm to run a government, you effectively remove human need from the equation.

This is what the neo-con/republican bastards have been doing since the days of that moron, RR.

Like I said before, it's only a matter of time before we get rid of the quaint title, President, and call it what they would prefer you call it: CEO.

Jezuz, this country has sunk to the lowest of the low to so admire the way corporations rape the world that they'd like their government to use the same model.

NDIB's picture

There's another candidate who is running on Bush's platform. Not only was Bush the MBA candidate but he was also auniter and not a divider. So what is fair for Mitt, is fair for Obama WaWa.

Fil's picture

Romney does not care about social conservatism, he re-adjusts his positions to make the right happy.
Romney is a business man, a fiscal conservative who is ready to destroy social security and anything that helps people who need it.
Romney would just cut everything up that people need and just give moneys to his corporate buddies, the Reagan way.

Romney as President = Mega Recession depression. Just like Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle

mudshark's picture

Let's try that one Again.You know,just to double check to see if it doesn't work.

Marcus Aurelius's picture

Since when does being a successful businessman make you anything but interested in your own wealth, as opposed to any other consideration.

Never let a businessman run your government.

Roket's picture

“I am intimately familiar with how our economy works.”

Yea, the first thing you do is lay off as many people as possible. That’s the ticket.

Marcus Aurelius's picture

“I am intimately familiar with how our economy works.”

So is everyone else. It's debt-based.

StirFry's picture

Just put with it for a few more weeks, then we'll see this bumbling flip flopper disappear into obscurity.

Straight Shooter's picture

Okay, I'm going to be immature and point out that almost every time I see Chris Wallace in a screen capture, his mouth reminds me of the general in Pan's Labyrinth who had his mouth slashed with a knife and it formed that same distorted upward curve.

I can't stand to listen to him anymore. My tolerance level has been diminished greatly in the last few years by Wallace and his ilk.

Lollimom's picture

"We’re competing around the world now, with China and India, tougher competition than we’ve ever faced before."

No, we are not competing.

All the multinational corporations, the Intels, the Microsofts, the GMs, the GEs--every goddam one of them worked WITH this government to create "fair trade" that screwed American workers, "fair trade" that actually gave these corporations incentives to move out of the United States.

Romney was part of the screw job.

freespeak's picture

Romney, Bush, Cheney, Kerry and Edwards all made loads of cash by screwing people out of jobs
Isn't it time we had a president who actually put the people first?

Iron Gator's picture

The paradigm for the American Businessman is Daffy Duck: he'll tell any lie, foreclose on any widow, pollute any air and poop in any body of water in the furtherance of his Agenda, to wit, Make Mo' Money. ("I got mine - Fuck YOU!")

Woohoo! Woohoo! Woohoo!

mudshark's picture

we still need Romney and Thompson for a little while longer.......

L.A. Confidential's picture

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Lollimom's picture

freespeak @ 12:

Romney, Bush, Cheney, Kerry and Edwards all made loads of cash by screwing people out of jobs
Isn't it time we had a president who actually put the people first?

That was a cheap shot to include Edwards, fool, with those other names.

Just a fucking cheap shot.

Iron Gator's picture

Then the Remainder become even MORE productive, as they scurry about furtively, each in fear for his job, not wanting to be Next to Get the Axe.

In the French and Roman armies, this was a motivational technique known as, "decimation." When a unit lost a battle, higher command would order that one in ten of that unit be slaughtered by their comrades, the better to Motivate the surviving 90%.

freespeak's picture

RE: That was a cheap shot to include Edwards, fool, with those other names. Just a fucking cheap shot.

Open your eyes and ears. Edwards makes tons of cash with hedge funds that destroyed companys and put people out of work.
he has also sued companies and detroyed them and put thousands of hard working americans out of work.
is it really a cheap shot? or have you not been paying attention?

♥♂ Angry Guy's picture

Too bad we can't give bush and cheney "Golden Parachute's" it would be worth any price to be rid of them.

Is there *anything at all* that Willard "Joe Isuzu" Romney is honest about?

Here's a quick run down of the job layoffs that he made his millions off of on.

Crooks and Liars indeed.

Tell me again, what are these man's qualifications again, other than he has a deep and abiding desire to be President of the United States?

I am so tired of seeing this man being treated like he has any sort of credibility whatsoever, please. please lose badly from here on in and get off the stage, you, and your wild eyed, non-Country Serving, kids, are an embarrassment to America.

~Nyc

Don's picture

And a reminder that those multi-national corporations, though perhaps originally of American origin or even with American offices still, have no corporate "patriotism" about what's "best" for America. They think their own bottom line. Period. It's all global with them. Fine. But stop pandering and thinking that what's Best For Coprorate America (the GOP/AEI/ClubForGrowth/ChamberofCommerce line) is Best for Americans. After all, you can thank Corporate America and its ideological whores/politicians for killing off the union movement.

mudshark's picture

♥♂ Angry Guy @ 19:

Too bad we can't give bush and cheney "Golden Parachute's" it would be worth any price to be rid of them.

oh,they'll get their golden parachute allright.Just not yet....they're still bilking the country.

Marcus Aurelius's picture

Iron Gator @ 17:

Then the Remainder become even MORE productive, as they scurry about furtively, each in fear for his job, not wanting to be Next to Get the Axe.

In the French and Roman armies, this was a motivational technique known as, "decimation." When a unit lost a battle, higher command would order that one in ten of that unit be slaughtered by their comrades, the better to Motivate the surviving 90%.

In Viet-Nam, decimation was replaced with fragging. Bring on the Ruling classes.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Don @ 21:

And a reminder that those multi-national corporations, though perhaps originally of American origin or even with American offices still, have no corporate "patriotism" about what's "best" for America. They think their own bottom line. Period. It's all global with them. Fine. But stop pandering and thinking that what's Best For Coprorate America (the GOP/AEI/ClubForGrowth/ChamberofCommerce line) is Best for Americans. After all, you can thank Corporate America and its ideological whores/politicians for killing off the union movement.

Thats includes both the blue suit and flag lapel as well as the khaki and polo shirt capitalists.

jr's picture

I'm so sick of Fox's retarded chyrons. Puff piecery always on the marcheth

mudshark's picture

Fox Nooz wouldn't do this to sabotage Romneys Campaign....would they?

espo's picture

Romany is running as the candidate of change......

as in change is all you will continue make if he becomes president.

he is more of the same.......

hazmaq's picture

I'm not sure which is scarier Romney as Prez -or Bill as the Mrs. Prez.

He's could make Joan Crawford look like a hand puppet!

Honest George's picture

I wake up every day, turn on the telly and check what Christi Paul is wearing and what new position Romney has taken during the past 24 hours.

Life gets simpler when you get old.

Preacher Boob's picture

And these days, with modern communications, Mitt can keep flying around the world, looking after his business interests, and just phone-in his presidential responsibilities. As a business executive, he can delegate most of those responsibilities to someone else, maybe to one of his kids, to give them some on-the-job training.

So they'll have some experience running something, when they're ready to leave the White House, and take over the family business.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Mr. Romney, though, never ran a corner store or a traditional business.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/04/us/politics/04bain.html

freespeak's picture

-McCain won because of name recognition and media pumping.
-Romney wins because of cash and promising tax breaks and everything under the sun to fox news.
-media continues to smear Huckabee as an 'evangelical' because he is poor and from the south.

Che's Lounge's picture

Like him or not, he's my prediction to win the nomination. The mainstream conservatives will tell the evangelicals to go f**k themselves. It's not personal. It's business.

Just sayin'.

freespeak's picture

how many wives does mitt have hidden on the compound? anyone know?

Iron Gator's picture

Marcus Aurelius @ 23:

Iron Gator @ 17:

Then the Remainder become even MORE productive, as they scurry about furtively, each in fear for his job, not wanting to be Next to Get the Axe.

In the French and Roman armies, this was a motivational technique known as, "decimation." When a unit lost a battle, higher command would order that one in ten of that unit be slaughtered by their comrades, the better to Motivate the surviving 90%.

In Viet-Nam, decimation was replaced with fragging. Bring on the Ruling classes.

Marcus Aurelius @ 23:

Iron Gator @ 17:

Then the Remainder become even MORE productive, as they scurry about furtively, each in fear for his job, not wanting to be Next to Get the Axe.

In the French and Roman armies, this was a motivational technique known as, "decimation." When a unit lost a battle, higher command would order that one in ten of that unit be slaughtered by their comrades, the better to Motivate the surviving 90%.

In Viet-Nam, decimation was replaced with fragging. Bring on the Ruling classes.

It was hard to get into position to frag anyone above the rank of Captain. THAT might have done some good. On the other hand:

1. The Other Side usuallly took care of it for you, as attrition among 2nd and 1st Lieutenants was quite a bit higher than that of normal grunts and NCO's;

2. You could, if they really insisted on sending/leading your sorry ass into a Place of Poor Quality, either tell them to go fuck themselves or simply Walk Away.

If they sent you to the brig, you got three hots and a cot. And NO one EVER mortared the Long Binh Jail.

As we used to say: "What are they going to do to me? Shave my head and send me to VietNam?"

Lollimom's picture

freespeak @ 18:

RE: That was a cheap shot to include Edwards, fool, with those other names. Just a fucking cheap shot.

Open your eyes and ears. Edwards makes tons of cash with hedge funds that destroyed companys and put people out of work.
he has also sued companies and detroyed them and put thousands of hard working americans out of work.
is it really a cheap shot? or have you not been paying attention?

I won't engage in further conversation with you on this; I'm surprised the site monitors let you flame-bait like that.

You are anti-Edwards, and you took an opportunity to engage in the republican fondness for smearing here, to take a cheap shot at the only candidate who DOES represent the lower classes.

"freespeak", my ass. Try "republicanspeak".

Ron's picture

Lollimom @ 11:

"We’re competing around the world now, with China and India, tougher competition than we’ve ever faced before."

No, we are not competing.

All the multinational corporations, the Intels, the Microsofts, the GMs, the GEs--every goddam one of them worked WITH this government to create "fair trade" that screwed American workers, "fair trade" that actually gave these corporations incentives to move out of the United States.

Romney was part of the screw job.

They didn't create fair trade, they created free trade. If was fair trade the competition would have to pay living wages, have a 40 hr. work week. The competition uses slavery to produce their products.

songtraveler's picture

Far from hoping Mitt disappears, I hope he's the Rethug nominee. I've even cooked up a bumper sticker and a running mate for him:

"Washington's broken: only the power of cults will mend it!"

"ROMNEY/CRUISE in `08!"

HulksHeroes's picture

This bozo is the perfect CEO.....

Slick, macho with the dollars and dress, and certainly has his eye to the future. Unfortunately, he doesn't give a rat's ass about the little man he tramples on as he moves his "business" forward.

The US is NOT a business. Certainly we have millions of businesses to be concerned with, but we are a nation of PEOPLE. We are concerned for our brothers and sisters, and we want our country to prosper in peace and prosperity.

There is a HUGE difference. One is corporation concern...the other is "by the people, for the people".

Go figure.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 32:

-McCain won because of name recognition and media pumping.
-Romney wins because of cash and promising tax breaks and everything under the sun to fox news.
-media continues to smear Huckabee as an 'evangelical' because he is poor and from the south.

When you are quoted and captured on video saying you want to change the Constitution so that it pretty much aligns with the "living God's word" like in the Bible , you are not just an evangelical , but a poor excuse for a candidate ; and what other simplistic type loser yo-yo would make that any sort of goal , if not a Southerner ?

freespeak's picture

yes I am anti-Edwards. i am also anti-Romney and anti-Bush. i wasn't trying to bait anyone. I just call em like I see them. Edwards has been running for president since 2002. he co-sponsored the iraq war resolution with joe liberman. he lost a debate with cheney. he made his money by taking advantage of sick people and companies. he continues to take advantage of the poor instead of actually doing something for them. instead he rolls out the sob stories...and says he never cries. i would respect him more if he actually donated some of his money to the poor instead of using the poor to raise money from rich people for his endless run.

CalGeorge's picture

After Busheney, we don't need any more CEO presidents.

Ron's picture

CalGeorge @ 42:

After Busheney, we don't need any more CEO presidents.

We could use a good attorney, though.

jimbo92107's picture

Notice how Romney HIJACKS the "change" theme from Democrats, then how he smoothly transitions from cutting jobs to "save a company" to being the great savior of American workers.

Too bad the numbnuts interviewer didn't ask him why Republicans are getting only half as many people to vote in their primaries as Democrats are. Why is that, Willard? Could it be that people just don't believe Republicans anymore?

Herbert's picture

Instead of firing back names of companies that did well, he responds with how he will have to cut a leg to save a life.

What a novel idea Mitt, you're fired...

KCThinker's picture

Not defending Romney, but I must point out that one major difference between Bush and Romney is that Romney has actually succeeded in business where Bush has failed in every venture. Bush is also not a true presidential CEO because he has outsourced all critical thinking. I would consider those to be important differences.

It will not matter who gets elected, a democrat or a republican. Both will lead us off the cliff. The question is who will get us there faster?

freespeak's picture

RE: When you are quoted and captured on video saying you want to change the Constitution so that it pretty much aligns with the “living God’s word” like in the Bible

No you see that was the media spin. Huck didn't mean that and they knew it but presented the story like that anyway.
Huckabee said in an interview with CNN after that he understood the Constitution as a “secular document” and had described his support for those amendments “a little more awkwardly than I have in the past.” He was just saying the great thing about the constitution is that it can be updated with the will of the people like it was when we ended slavery and gave women the right to vote. Murder is against gods law and we have laws against that.

Tyler Durden's picture

freespeak @ 47:

RE: When you are quoted and captured on video saying you want to change the Constitution so that it pretty much aligns with the “living God’s word” like in the Bible

No you see that was the media spin. Huck didn't mean that and they knew it but presented the story like that anyway.
Huckabee said in an interview with CNN after that he understood the Constitution as a “secular document” and had described his support for those amendments “a little more awkwardly than I have in the past.” He was just saying the great thing about the constitution is that it can be updated with the will of the people like it was when we ended slavery and gave women the right to vote. Murder is against gods law and we have laws against that.

... so basically we should believe you and not our lying eyes and ears, right?

I think your handle name is incorrect, I believe you misspelled "Newspeak"

peaceful easy feeling's picture

What makes it easier is that that their electorate generally doesn’t do a lot deep thinking beyond the platitudes and talking points given to them.

This observation reflects hyper-partisans in general.

freespeak's picture

no i am just saying you should always question things that are presented to you in sound bites and personal commentary. look at the original video tape. don't be lead by pundents on tabloid tv aka cable news

Radically Moderate's picture

mudshark @ 22:

♥♂ Angry Guy @ 19:

Too bad we can't give bush and cheney "Golden Parachute's" it would be worth any price to be rid of them.

oh,they'll get their golden parachute allright.Just not yet....they're still bilking the country.

That's right, wait until the last few days next January when these clown start heading for the exits.
They will be cutting so many "performance" checks and giving away so many pardons that EVEN Faux noise will be shocked.

army193's picture

I want a President, not a CEO...Bush, remember is a CEO.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 47:

RE: When you are quoted and captured on video saying you want to change the Constitution so that it pretty much aligns with the “living God’s word” like in the Bible

No you see that was the media spin. Huck didn't mean that and they knew it but presented the story like that anyway.
Huckabee said in an interview with CNN after that he understood the Constitution as a “secular document” and had described his support for those amendments “a little more awkwardly than I have in the past.” He was just saying the great thing about the constitution is that it can be updated with the will of the people like it was when we ended slavery and gave women the right to vote. Murder is against gods law and we have laws against that.

All right , tell me you're not behind and gonna' vote for Mike Gomer Pyle(of shit) Huckleberry..........

freespeak's picture

Bush is CEO of daddy's leftovers

MCMetal's picture

army193 @ 52:

I want a President, not a CEO...Bush, remember is a CEO.

Certified Enema Organizer ?

Tyler Durden's picture

freespeak @ 50:

no i am just saying you should always question things that are presented to you in sound bites and personal commentary. look at the original video tape. don't be lead by pundents on tabloid tv aka cable news

So basically, we should just take your word for it and assume that Fuckabee is the victim. I love how right wingers sure do love to request personal "responsibility" from everyone but themselves. So indeed the misogynist, homophone, ex-preacher who would like to return us to them biblical times is the victim now?

And you people are the ones who want to protect us from them "terririst" when you fold down like little bitches when faced with the slightest criticism. A lot of Kevlar is in order to shield such thin skin in my opinion...

I guess, that next time you are going to tell us who what Fuckabee says is a lie, since what you see on TeeVee is a science fiction year 2000 bullshit 3D computer generated speakin' feller. You know, they have them 'puters now a days and they can make anything.

All this spinning is making me dizzy. Does the Fuckabee campaign pay you by the post, or are you doing this shilling strictly pro bono?

freespeak's picture

The truth is I will never have the option to vote for him unless he wins florida.
I am not sure to tell you the truth. I might because he is the best communicator and believes what comes out of his mouth.
I would vote for Hillary if she puts Wes Clark as VP. or Obama/Hillary could work. I really can't see myself considering republicans other than mccain and huck in the general. Romney is just like john kerry when you think about it. I was never wild about him but liked gore back in 2000.

freespeak's picture

btw i voted for kerry

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 57:

The truth is I will never have the option to vote for him unless he wins florida.
I am not sure to tell you the truth. I might because he is the best communicator and believes what comes out of his mouth.
I would vote for Hillary if she puts Wes Clark as VP. or Obama/Hillary could work. I really can't see myself considering republicans other than mccain and huck in the general. Romney is just like john kerry when you think about it. I was never wild about him but liked gore back in 2000.

The "best commincator" of what ? The fairy tales in the fictional book know as the Bible ?

Who gives a shit how much Huckleberry believes what he says ?

He's wrong , just like the imbecile in the White House now........

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 58:

btw i voted for kerry

But what you're saying is , no matter who the Dem nominee is , if Huckleberry is the GOP nominee , that's who you're voting for.......

President PNACcio's picture

The Freidman Zombies are going to take us back to the Middle Ages, both financially, and intellectually. I can't wait to move back to Old Europe.

freespeak's picture

RE: So indeed the misogynist, homophone, ex-preacher who would like to return us to them biblical times is the victim now?

Wow! See that is what I am talking about. Hatred of Huckabee for being religious. do you hate jews too? I have never heard Huckabee act or sound misogynist or homophobic at all. Return us to biblical times? How so? Huck is not against atheists like bush, he is not racist. all they report about is "evangelical". he was a preacher for a short time a long time ago. he was governor of Arkansas for 10 years.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 62:

RE: So indeed the misogynist, homophone, ex-preacher who would like to return us to them biblical times is the victim now?

Wow! See that is what I am talking about. Hatred of Huckabee for being religious. do you hate jews too? I have never heard Huckabee act or sound misogynist or homophobic at all. Return us to biblical times? How so? Huck is not against atheists like bush, he is not racist. all they report about is "evangelical". he was a preacher for a short time a long time ago. he was governor of Arkansas for 10 years.

Huckleberry wanted those infected with AIDS deported to a remote island ; that isn't hatred of homosexuals you moron ?

freespeak's picture

RE: But what you’re saying is , no matter who the Dem nominee is , if Huckleberry is the GOP nominee , that’s who you’re voting for…….

actually i would probably vote for certain dem tickets over Huck. it comes down to who vs who and what happens during the campaign so i can't say right now for sure

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 62:

RE: So indeed the misogynist, homophone, ex-preacher who would like to return us to them biblical times is the victim now?

Wow! See that is what I am talking about. Hatred of Huckabee for being religious. do you hate jews too? I have never heard Huckabee act or sound misogynist or homophobic at all. Return us to biblical times? How so? Huck is not against atheists like bush, he is not racist. all they report about is "evangelical". he was a preacher for a short time a long time ago. he was governor of Arkansas for 10 years.

No

I don't have a hatred towards religious morons ; they simply do not belong in our government , let alone the White House...........

freespeak's picture

but does he still want them deported or has he seen the light? lol

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 66:

but does he still want them deported or has he seen the light? lol

You believe someone that ignorant and lacking in compassion is someone that knows or understands "God's word" ?

BTW You think that's funny ?

You're a douchebag

freespeak's picture

so you really believe that a higher power had nothing to do with the construction of the planet and the creation of life and all of its evolutionary complexities? are you really just an cosmic accident? even a monkey is beyond complex. something of a higher power made it possible and put it all into motion.

Tyler Durden's picture

freespeak @ 62:

RE: So indeed the misogynist, homophone, ex-preacher who would like to return us to them biblical times is the victim now?

Wow! See that is what I am talking about. Hatred of Huckabee for being religious. do you hate jews too? I have never heard Huckabee act or sound misogynist or homophobic at all. Return us to biblical times? How so? Huck is not against atheists like bush, he is not racist. all they report about is "evangelical". he was a preacher for a short time a long time ago. he was governor of Arkansas for 10 years.

You may think that Straw Men and Red Herring arguments are an impressive way of conduct an intelligent discussion, I however disagree and find them rather annoying.

I don't hate Fuckabee for being religious, I simply don't care for him for being an ignorant, bigoted, charlatan. Two veeeery different things.

But by all means, keep up the victimization routine. It is entertaining to see the people who have done all the harm trying to play the victim card. Talk about wanting your cake and eat it to...

freespeak's picture

i don't think huckabee is against gays. he was agaist the spread of aids. that was a long time ago he said that right? aids was a scary thing back in the 80's. it is funny because it was a dumb thing for huckabee to say. he doesn't stand behind that statement now.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 68:

so you really believe that a higher power had nothing to do with the construction of the planet and the creation of life and all of its evolutionary complexities? are you really just an cosmic accident? even a monkey is beyond complex. something of a higher power made it possible and put it all into motion.

I don't claim to know ; unlike yourself and Gomer Pyle(of shit) Huckleberry.

And neither one of you has a capable enough IQ or enough depth to claim to know there is a "God" , or what she/he believes.......

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 70:

i don't think huckabee is against gays. he was agaist the spread of aids. that was a long time ago he said that right? aids was a scary thing back in the 80's. it is funny because it was a dumb thing for huckabee to say. he doesn't stand behind that statement now.

What are you , his friggin' press secretary ? He made that statement in the '90's ; 1992 to be exact.

It isn't "funny" , 1st off, because you don't know if he has truly changed his belief in regards to that topic , anyway.
And what does that reveal about someone in their 40's , who believes the way to stop AIDS is to deport everyone that suffers from it ?

[keep it civil, please - site monitor]

Tyler Durden's picture

MCMetal @ 72:

freespeak @ 70:

i don't think huckabee is against gays. he was agaist the spread of aids. that was a long time ago he said that right? aids was a scary thing back in the 80's. it is funny because it was a dumb thing for huckabee to say. he doesn't stand behind that statement now.

What are you , his friggin' press secretary ? He made that statement in the '90's ; 1992 to be exact.

It isn't "funny" , 1st off , you mindless simp.Because you don't know if he has truly changed his belief in regards to that topic , anyway.
And what does that reveal about someone in their 40's , who believes the way to stop AIDS is to deport everyone that suffers from it ?

Christ , you're a bigger idiot than Huckleberry is........

At this point, MCMetal, it is clear to me that wasting any more time with that troll is no longer constructive. You are just providing fodder material for what seems to be the latest graduate of the Goebbels School of Communication. And for the looks of it he got his Kool Aid scholarship, the troll is too far gone as he is clearly aiming for a cum laude graduation.

freespeak's picture

it isn't funny. i was a stupid thing for huckabee to say. it was stupid for me to joke about him 'seeing the light' but that is how i understood it. i just don't see him as a hate full person.

"Obviously, we know a lot more today. I'm glad we do," Huckabee said, while visiting Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Feller's baseball museum in this town of fewer than 900 people. "That was 1992."

Huckabee was challenged on the AIDS issue Tuesday by two advocacy groups, the Human Rights Campaign and the AIDS Institute. They called on Huckabee to meet with the family of Ryan White, the Indiana teen who was banned from school and ostracized in his hometown after being diagnosed with AIDS -- a disease he contracted during his treatment for hemophilia. He died in 1990 at age 18.

Jeanne White-Ginder, Ryan's mother, called Huckabee's recent remarks alarming.

"It's very important to me that we don't live in the darkness," she told the Associated Press. "We have to treat this disease like a disease, and like Ryan always said, not like a dirty word."

Huckabee replied Tuesday that he was "very willing" to meet with White's mother.

"I would tell them that we've come a long way in research and treatment, and I certainly never would want to say anything that would be hurtful to them or anybody else," he said at a morning news conference in Council Bluffs. Huckabee said he "would have great regret and anxiety if I thought my comments were hurtful or in any way added to the already incredible pain that families have felt, regardless of how they contracted AIDS."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-huckabee12dec12,0,5514341.sto...

MCMetal's picture

freespeck , zip it already ; you are as big a jackass as Huckleberry . There is a reason why Gomer Pyle will not be the crappy GOP's nominee....And it isn't because of the plethora of worthy candidates the GOP is sporting , either.

How does that feel , BTW ? Your boy isn't on a level equivalent with the dog dreck the GOP has presented........

freespeak's picture

RE: Huckleberry wanted those infected with AIDS deported to a remote island

ok i did more research and it looks like...Huckabee never said anything about Deporting or a Remote Island.

Mike Huckabee advocated "isolating" AIDS patients from the general public. This what he actually said in 92:

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague," he wrote. "It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."

John's picture

All the Republican candidates would be CEO presidents. That's the GOP platform, certainly, and the Dems' has smelled similarly for quite a while.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 76:

RE: Huckleberry wanted those infected with AIDS deported to a remote island

ok i did more research and it looks like...Huckabee never said anything about Deporting or a Remote Island.

Mike Huckabee advocated "isolating" AIDS patients from the general public. This what he actually said in 92:

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague," he wrote. "It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."

He wanted them quarantined , away from the entire US populace.

Where would you put them to accomplish that ?

freespeak's picture

yeah i know Huck doesn't have a shot. he is poor and doesn't have the business bucks like the rest of them.
So I will have to vote for Hillary or Obama...no big deal. I like them to. All i was saying is that the media has unfairly covered mike. I will stop complaining now since it is not like they have a good record on being fair or accurate so i guess i shouldn't expect them to be.

MCMetal's picture

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freespeak's picture

RE: He wanted them quarantined , away from the entire US populace.
Where would you put them to accomplish that ?

try...a hospital. He was talking about aids patients in 92 not HIV patients in 2008!

beltman713's picture

Wasn't Bush supposed to be the CEO president? We all see how that one has worked out.

freespeak's picture

everyone know bush sucked at business.
Bush was only the CEO president because of all the people he had lined up for the cabinet.
I wonder if Romney would keep the cronies going.

Tyler Durden's picture

freespeak @ 81:

RE: He wanted them quarantined , away from the entire US populace.
Where would you put them to accomplish that ?

try...a hospital. He was talking about aids patients in 92 not HIV patients in 2008!

If Fuckabee did not meant what he said, in light of your constant interpretations and re-translations of his words (all caught on tape), it seems that he is either too stupid to manage the English language, or too disingenuous to own to his own words when they come back to bite him in the arse. Either way, he seems woefully under qualified to manage anything more than the drive through of a fast food joint in the middle of nowhere.

If you have such low expectations for what you require in your leadership personnel, it reflects poorly on you too dude....

Marty's picture

Nicole, I'm not sure, but I'm hoping you were being sarcastic.

Romney will fill the tub, and drown the federal employees, provided said employees are working on behalf of labor, the environment, or education.

freespeak's picture

hey man he had the right to say what he did. what he said was not crazy. i mean if we had isolated the first cases there would be less people infected today.

MCMetal's picture

freespeak @ 86:

hey man he had the right to say what he did. what he said was not crazy. i mean if we had isolated the first cases there would be less people infected today.

And if we had had those like yourself and Chimpy aborted , stupidity wouldn't have reached the level you 2 have brought it.............

do-si-do's picture

I would really like presidential candidates to remember this:

I am not a member of his congregation...
I am not a member of his frat...
I am not a troop in his army...
I am not disciple of his cult ideology...
I am not an employee of his company...
I am not an ATM at his bank...

I am a citizen of a country, one that hopefully will restore its government to some kind of properly functioning status for its citizenry.

Andre's picture

I don't know about anybody else, but I find the concept of MBA/CEO Presidents quite ugly and a massive turn-off. The great Presidents of our history were statesmen who may have had a meager beginning or existed outside of the confines of powerful board rooms, with eventual financial success of some kind being secondary. CEO Presidents represent to me inaccessibility, marginalizing of broad populations (like in the case of employees) and impersonal decisions that concern only immediate profits and not longterm impacts on society.

At this point, I'd rather vote for a former pig farmer than any kind of CEO person for president...

Andre's picture

Also, Romney's constant Olympics metaphorizing is getting sickening. Is this a person who wants to be president because he wants to be the caretaker of 300 million people, or is this really all about Me Me Me Me Me and those associated with Me? Romney's campaign makes this tradition of people-last-me-first Republicanism nauseatingly obvious.

ronnyg's picture

NDIB @ 3:

There's another candidate who is running on Bush's platform. Not only was Bush the MBA candidate but he was also auniter and not a divider. So what is fair for Mitt, is fair for Obama WaWa.

I think I speak for many on this site, when I say, "Huh?"

freespeak's picture

i seriously think Romney has another wife somewhere. It is just so weird how his kids all seem the same age.
i mean Romney used to be a missionary in france for the LDS church and his great grandpa had 12 wives so I am not so sure I believe him when he says he is against polygamy.

Bush as MBA President and Romney as CEO, eh? When he was governor of Massachusetts he was MIA.

Andre @ 90:

Also, Romney's constant Olympics metaphorizing is getting sickening.

Saved the Olympics but couldn't save the medals. Steroids, HGH, blood doping. Taint, taint, and more taint. Go team Mitt!

brobob's picture

perhaps the most troubling aspect of the ceo mentality he embraces is the placing of his capital offshore. all of the current crop of this administration seem to have done so. where does that leave us as a country...isn't this what nafta and open /free trade are all about. they take the money, jobs, and productivity and leave us with debt and no out. f**k the people-it's all about 'bottom line'. and right now we seem to be on the precipice of collapse which leaves us all in the state of his reply about a failed business. you can be sure that after trimming the 'waste' we will have as federal employees-all sycophants to corporate ideals and not the constitution. actually the trial run of this sort has been running for 7+
years and in spite of the f-ups, they are still in charge

media girl's picture

He's not just another MBA. Guess what class Romney was in. Guess who his classmate was.

Tyler Durden's picture

do-si-do @ 88:

I would really like presidential candidates to remember this:

I am not a member of his congregation...
I am not a member of his frat...
I am not a troop in his army...
I am not disciple of his cult ideology...
I am not an employee of his company...
I am not an ATM at his bank...

I am a citizen of a country, one that hopefully will restore its government to some kind of properly functioning status for its citizenry.

In my case, I see it in much simpler terms. The President is our employee, we pay his salary, he works for us, not the other way around.

Respect is earned not granted. Ergo, I should be free to go in public and face the current President and tell him to his face that he is a "fucking idiot." And he can do nothing about it but to smile and let it go...

This is a democracy, not a monarchy. People have to earn their place in the republic just like everyone else. Enough of this entitlement bullshit.

Tyler Durden's picture

media girl @ 96:

He's not just another MBA. Guess what class Romney was in. Guess who his classmate was.

Bush, indeed... just what we need another MBA to finish what the current one started.

Harvard Business degrees aren't worth the paper they are written on. In fact, Yale and Harvard need to have a lot to answer for the generation of woefully under prepared leaders they have produced.

jitter's picture

I thought George Bush was the CEO President.

Otay's picture

The arrogance of big-business CEO's simply astounds me. As if they were the ones growing the economy, not the educational system, not the highly-educated workers.

Why don't they just butt the hell out? Take their delusions of grandeur and their over-inflated paychecks and STFU?

Cabby's picture

BULLSHIT

One Year Wonder's picture

Mitt's got it all wrong. If he wants to sell change to The Base, he's gonna have to include water boarding all the Federal employees he wants to fire before he actually fires them.

rightsmart's picture

Romney has a lot of experience cutting employees in government. As governor of Massachusetts, his cuts to municipal governments forced the layoffs or hiring freezes for hundreds of first responders.

From the Boston Globe (5/13/2004):

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, towns and cities statewide have collectively shed 945 police officers and 798 firefighters because of layoffs or attrition, and 83 percent of police chiefs and 92 percent of fire chiefs say their departments are unprepared for a terror attack, according to a survey of the state's police and fire chiefs by a state Senate committee. ...

Pacheco, a Taunton Democrat, blamed deep cuts in the amount of state money distributed to cities and towns for what he calculated to be a 5 percent drop statewide in the number of public safety officers in three years. He said the administration of Governor Mitt Romney, a Republican, insisted on those cuts while glossing over the impact on public safety preparedness. ...

An independent survey by the Massachusetts Municipal Association, a membership organization of the state's towns and cities, extrapolated very similar results on job losses based on a 38 percent sample of municipalities, said Geoffrey Beckwith, the association's executive director.

"This is an important report," Beckwith said of Pacheco's findings. "It points out that instead of speeding down the tax-cut highway, we need to invest and reinvest in police and fire personnel."

More at: rightsmart.blogspot.com

alfred's picture

Mitt will never be president but it will be great to see him lose in the general.

gmz's picture

freespeak @ 64:

RE: But what you’re saying is , no matter who the Dem nominee is , if Huckleberry is the GOP nominee , that’s who you’re voting for…….

actually i would probably vote for certain dem tickets over Huck. it comes down to who vs who and what happens during the campaign so i can't say right now for sure

That's because you can't think for yourself Mr. Newspeak.

Robt's picture

Romney wants to bring back jobs that he supported Bush in ridding America of?

Jobs that he rid of because it was simply profitable to him not to manage and run a average profitable company. But to close it, sell its assets and put out workers.

And that competive spirit of competing with other countries that pay a dollar a day compared to the cost of living in America.

Romney sees enriching himself for his family for centuries to come. He is " Rudy-Mitt-Bush ".

I want to cut our Gov't till it can be drowned in a bathtub and the wealthy endowed by God will be the divine leaders. No need to fuss over that petty Constitution document.

We can go back to welth only can vote so us less Godly endowed monetarily won't have to be burdened with voting for our corrupt officials we can have what Mexxico has without the trouble of having to vote.

These guys will feed on each other, just give them time. (Which we don't have).

DanJoaquinOz's picture

As far as homophobic, evolution denying, foreign & economic policy hayseeds go, Huckabee is surprisingly affable. He'd almost give hateful ignorance a good name if it wasn't...well, so hateful and dumb. (BTW, for anyone thinking Huckabee's position on AIDs was a distant aberration, he's very recently, and repeatedly equated homosexuality with bestiality.)

Nonetheless, his affability, hatefulness & ignorance will soon become moot as the magnitude of the sub-prime fallout becomes clear: for Republicans & the rest of the electorate, it's about to become all about the Economy, Stupid, in a very big way. That totally eliminates Huckleberry from the equation & seriously damages McCain, while favouring Giuliani & Romney. In any conceivable 3 way between these candidates, Romney wins.
Republican base? Romney wins
Economic conservatives? Romney wins.
Values Voters? Romney wins.
Xenophobes? Romney (narrowly) wins.
Those wary of cancerous, elderly rage-oholics? Romney wins.
Brokered convention? Romney wins.

Best of all, against any conceivable Democrat, Romney massively loses.

If you want to see what a country looks like when its run like a corporation: Iraq

Its a 'free market' liberated 'democracy'.... (cough)

Jonathon's picture

1. Government is NOT a business. It ain't about making profit. We don't need a President with an MBA or who used to be CEO of a company. We need a LEADER who is capable of leveraging the power of government for the public good.

2. The skills required to be a good CEO are not the same as the skills required to be a good President. In fact, many of them run contrary to how government should be run and how politics work.

3. We've now had 7+ years of Dubya's "MBA presidency" and look where we are. Can anyone really argue with a straight face that we need another CEO president?

zorro's picture

What is really funny is Steve Forbes said in a round table discussion, on Fox, that there is no Human Resources department in America that would ever consider Barack Obama as a CEO with his current resume, let alone run the country.

Otay's picture

right wing hater @ 108:

If you want to see what a country looks like when its run like a corporation: Iraq

Its a 'free market' liberated 'democracy'.... (cough)

I think of Iraq as an example of a Libertarian pipe dream (sell off government to big business, then watch Utopia unfold)...

gone horribly wrong.

GUy in PDX's picture

Understand something right now people. There is only one candidate that meets the requirement for the job of president. Any other pic will bring the U.S. to a close!

Damn people, wake up! Ditch your closed minded parties and become realist!

Ash from Rochester's picture

Oh no! Not another CEO President !

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