There doesn't have to be any rhyme or reason to it. Blacks to the back of the bus.

The Market Crash Today: What You're Not Being Reminded Of

"Where's John?"(Edwards) - the polls show him (as well as Obama) beating all Rethugs, just like Hillary beats all of them.

Chris Matthews - Moron, or Fool? You decide!

Huck's campaign put out a notice to the press critters this morning, to those who are covering his campaign on the road, that the campaign will no longer arrange transportation for them. I read that to say that's huck's running short on cash.

pissed off patricia @ 9:

Huck's campaign put out a notice to the press critters this morning, to those who are covering his campaign on the road, that the campaign will no longer arrange transportation for them. I read that to say that's huck's running short on cash.

I saw that story this morning as well, and I agree with you. This election cycle has gone on so long and some of the candidates didn't count on that happening. Some of the candidates are getting low on funds and know that Super Tuesday is coming and they're trying to save up their cash -- especially candidates like Huckabee and Giuliani, who are slipping in the polls and unable to raise much cash.

At times like this I WISH Olbermann really were head of NBC. He could smack some sense into Tweety.

Join me on the stock market slide! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I turned on Joe in the morning today and lo & behold there was Matthews filling in for Joe! Ugh. Usually they have either Willy Geist or David Schuster fill in when Joe isn't there (which is fairly often). But I couldn't stand listening to Chris this morning going on about the polls, primaries, etc.

Regardless of all the Obama supporters trying to make him as a saint. The corporate republican MSM and the republican rank and file WANT Obama to be the candidate. They know that they will never beat Edwards or Hillary. They want Obama so they can win. Obama will never carry a southern state. There are too many that won't vote for him.

The media sure luvs them some Clinton. Wonder what Hill's position would be if she was running on the name Rodham and Bill had never been prez.

douglas @ 5:

"Where's John?"(Edwards) - the polls show him (as well as Obama) beating all Rethugs, just like Hillary beats all of them.

I sent this message to Elizabeth today.

Elizabeth, again the media almost totally ignores John. In all of the debates it is like he is a halogram, he's there then he's not. The media is keeping him from reaching the people and delivering his message. I sent this message to John the other day and I want to make sure he gets it.

I think you need to go to the progresiive radio advertising. The regular MSM is not going to cover you and financing that kind of advertising will use up your campaign funds. As the Rueters article pointed out, they are afraid of you John. On progressive radio, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and others have given you more airtime than any of the MSM. I think you will benefit much more by reaching more of the progressive voter without the negative and dismissive attitude the MSM has given you.
We love your ideas John and the corporate media does not.

Marge @ 19:

Regardless of all the Obama supporters trying to make him as a saint. The corporate republican MSM and the republican rank and file WANT Obama to be the candidate. They know that they will never beat Edwards or Hillary. They want Obama so they can win. Obama will never carry a southern state. There are too many that won't vote for him.

I agree....as much as I hate to say this...I just don't think America's quite ready for an African-American president...or a woman president...then again, maybe we are, just not these two corporate candidates...

And as for Chris Matthews...I think he's losing relevance by the minute.

L.A. Confidential @ 22:

Bank of America Corp. said Tuesday its fourth-quarter earnings fell 95 percent, and Wachovia Corp. reported its earnings tumbled 98 percent.

I'm watching several stocks on a Yahoo ticker and the rate that the volume of stocks is increasing is incredible. It seems like everyone is selling off today. Bide your time, Monty...

L.A. Confidential @ 22:

Bank of America Corp. said Tuesday its fourth-quarter earnings fell 95 percent, and Wachovia Corp. reported its earnings tumbled 98 percent.

Ya, poor banks. Only made " The bank's revenue fell 31 percent to $12.67 billion from $18.49 billion last year."........guess the money "experts" should heed their own advice about bad loans.

It's not surprising at all, he's running a Republican campaign, if anybody would actually listen to what he says. He can't out-Republican the GOP candidates so he's behind them. His complaints about Bill Clinton speaking out are exactly the kind of thing we would expect to hear from "W." Don't like being criticized? Well, just deprive the critic of his First Amendment rights and "shut him up." Right? How totally BushCo.

I notice that Obama's supporters are TOTALLY in favor of "shutting Bill Clinton up." No regard for this man's Constitutional rights at all because Clinton's speaking out threatens their objective--George W. Bush incarnate.

ConcernedCanuck @ 21:

The media sure luvs them some Clinton. Wonder what Hill's position would be if she was running on the name Rodham and Bill had never been prez.

I wonder what shape this country would be in if Bill Clinton had never been president? If we'd had 8 years of Bush I, then 12 years of other neoCons? To hear Obama's supporters, it would have been preferable to 8 years of the Clinton's equalizing administration.

But then, I wonder what shape the country would be in if the Democrats had simply stood behind Clinton during his troubles instead of voting to impeach him with the Republicans.

kaT @ 31:

It's not surprising at all, he's running a Republican campaign, if anybody would actually listen to what he says. He can't out-Republican the GOP candidates so he's behind them. His complaints about Bill Clinton speaking out are exactly the kind of thing we would expect to hear from "W." Don't like being criticized? Well, just deprive the critic of his First Amendment rights and "shut him up." Right? How totally BushCo.

I notice that Obama's supporters are TOTALLY in favor of "shutting Bill Clinton up." No regard for this man's Constitutional rights at all because Clinton's speaking out threatens their objective--George W. Bush incarnate.

No Kat. Bill is campaigning. Period. He is either gotten senile, or he is running for President again. There is no place for that in politics. No former American president has campaigned as much as he is, and he is destroying the Dem Party in the process.
"Without having been his First Lady, if not exactly his only lady, Ms. Clinton would be but a corporate lawyer turned junior senator from New York and with a less than sterling voting record -- including her authorization of the war in Iraq, approval of a war-mongering resolution on Iran and an inglorious bill to criminalize the national epidemic of flag-burning."

Obama is right. Who is he running against? Bill has done more campaigning than his wife has.

kaT @ 33:

ConcernedCanuck @ 21:

The media sure luvs them some Clinton. Wonder what Hill's position would be if she was running on the name Rodham and Bill had never been prez.

I wonder what shape this country would be in if Bill Clinton had never been president? If we'd had 8 years of Bush I, then 12 years of other neoCons? To hear Obama's supporters, it would have been preferable to 8 years of the Clinton's equalizing administration.

But then, I wonder what shape the country would be in if the Democrats had simply stood behind Clinton during his troubles instead of voting to impeach him with the Republicans.

I wonder what the economy would be like without the fake "boom" years under Clinton, without the NAFTA agreement, without the needless daily bombings of Iraqi children, without a prez that needed sexual release from any woman cuz his wife wouldn't, without the..................

Chris Matthews is pandering because he is in trouble for his sexist attitude with media matters, daily kos and others... MSNBC is trying to build him up because these groups have come down hard on him and he is just showing that he is open minded, a nice guy and doesn't deserve this... DID ANYONE BUY IT? I think Hillary is still probably No.1 but I wouldn't take Tweety's word for it....

Joe O. @ 30:

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

The fiscal destruction of USA Inc. has arrived. Last week we saw the loss of $7 trillion of equity in U.S. capital marketplaces. In other words, $7 trillion in total equity value of all publicly traded U.S. capital marketplaces was lost in shareholder, bondholder or other equity stakeholder value. This is the greatest single weekly loss of equity holders ever. And since U.S. citizens hold about 75% of all domestic securities outstanding, they are the ones who felt the brunt of that diminishment.

I've been paying close attention to this since early this morning. At one point, the DOW futures were pointing to a 600 point loss, then the fed rate cut came in. It seems to have done little good. This situation is very grim and the "fantastic five" politicians mentioned above are saying nothing about it.

The DJIA is down 163 points as of 5 minutes ago. I believe the fed rate cut did have a significant positive impact. They started off about 300 down an hour ago. We'll see if it holds.

Peter G @ 1:

There doesn't have to be any rhyme or reason to it. Blacks to the back of the bus.

chrissie is just doing his job of helping place the divisive shillary at the top so she can be knocked off and leaving edwards off the list because his corporate masters fear edwards. no surprise that Obama is last. Chrissie is quite in tune with Diebold.

Bystander @ 39:

Chris Matthews is pandering because he is in trouble for his sexist attitude with media matters, daily kos and others... MSNBC is trying to build him up because these groups have come down hard on him and he is just showing that he is open minded, a nice guy and doesn't deserve this... DID ANYONE BUY IT? I think Hillary is still probably No.1 but I wouldn't take Tweety's word for it....

chrissie is NOT in any trouble. don't believe that for a second. if you look at the (*)NBC agenda, you'll see that it has not changed. corporatist democrats over populist democrats and corporatist repugs over religions nuts. as it plays out, all the pundits are in tune with the Diebold results. all the 'pat' explanations are used to explain the fixed, predetermined results.

As much as I detest Ron Paul and the ever present Pauletts, I have to say that he has a hundred times better power ranking than Sir Rudy of the 9/11.

pissed off patricia @ 46:

Just a market update. Last I saw, minutes ago, the market was only down 111 points. Seems maybe a rebound is underway.

It is taking a dive again (192).

Ron @ 49:

pissed off patricia @ 46:

Just a market update. Last I saw, minutes ago, the market was only down 111 points. Seems maybe a rebound is underway.

It is taking a dive again (192).

It's going to be a long WEEK.

RayC @ 52:

Joe O. @ 48:

bmw 528 @ 41:

Joe O. @ 30:

The DJIA is down 163 points as of 5 minutes ago. I believe the fed rate cut did have a significant positive impact. They started off about 300 down an hour ago. We'll see if it holds.

Agreed. It is having a positive impact thus far. On the flip side though, all commodities are also, once again moving up at a fast clip because of that rate cut. The problem is, we could see much higher inflation across all sectors once this rate cut filters though. The Government's stimulus package due out later on will have to compensate I think. We will see if the markets read it that way as well.

Aren't you glad W was so successful in convincing everyone to tie all Social Security to the stock market?

Yes !! The only part of the Bush Plan To Destroy America that didn't work.

*cuts out picture of Rudy smiling, pastes it inside a valentine alongside a pic of tower #1 collapsing, holds it up and sighs*

Makes perfect sense to me.

Dear Rudy:

Roses are red
violets are blue
mommy and daddy made me
and 9/11 made you.

Joe O. @ 48:

bmw 528 @ 41:

Joe O. @ 30:

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

I've been paying close attention to this since early this morning. At one point, the DOW futures were pointing to a 600 point loss, then the fed rate cut came in. It seems to have done little good. This situation is very grim and the "fantastic five" politicians mentioned above are saying nothing about it.

The DJIA is down 163 points as of 5 minutes ago. I believe the fed rate cut did have a significant positive impact. They started off about 300 down an hour ago. We'll see if it holds.

Agreed. It is having a positive impact thus far. On the flip side though, all commodities are also, once again moving up at a fast clip because of that rate cut. The problem is, we could see much higher inflation across all sectors once this rate cut filters though. The Government's stimulus package due out later on will have to compensate I think. We will see if the markets read it that way as well.

RayC @ 52:

Joe O. @ 48:

bmw 528 @ 41:

Joe O. @ 30:

The DJIA is down 163 points as of 5 minutes ago. I believe the fed rate cut did have a significant positive impact. They started off about 300 down an hour ago. We'll see if it holds.

Agreed. It is having a positive impact thus far. On the flip side though, all commodities are also, once again moving up at a fast clip because of that rate cut. The problem is, we could see much higher inflation across all sectors once this rate cut filters though. The Government's stimulus package due out later on will have to compensate I think. We will see if the markets read it that way as well.

Aren't you glad W was so successful in convincing everyone to tie all Social Security to the stock market?

Inflation is definitely a concern and is incrimentally creeping up to levels we have not see iin years. The Fed's sure doesn't want to have the stagflation we had in the 1970's. Bernanke is going to have a handful for awhile. DJIA is down 179 now according to www.wsj.com.

LOL Matthews is hyping Guiliani, while th chyron tells us of Guilianis previous support of democrats and hes 11 points behind McCain in a New York poll. Yeah hes got a great shot

L.A. Confidential @ 58:

So, whats everyone going to do to ward off destitution?

We need some ideas.

Government subsidized Internet Surfing Homes?

Fanon @ 44:

I have to agree with canuck, here. I think Bill could be causing some serious damage to the Dem party. Look, IMO there is not a whole lot of difference between Hillary and McCain. So, if Obama gets the nod, Bill may have just lined up a whole lot of McCain voters with his over agressive tactics. Don't get me wrong, I loved Bill, I just think he's gone off the deep end here.,

billary will destroy the Democratic Party, rather than support anyone else, just ask Gore and Kerry about the tepid support from the Clintons, add shillary's support for LIEberman, who supports McLame and you have a rather dangerous political adversary within the democratic party. many people are already tired of the blindly ambitious couple.

I'd rather vote for a goddamn sock puppet than smelly fascist Hillary.

I think its beyond a man-fantasy, I think Tweety fears Rudy. Who knows? Tweety trashes Rudy one day, then Berik shows up at his house with Officer O'Malley, then bada bing, and Tweety is "on vacation."

Republican could get back in as planned. Now with all the talk about Hillary and Obama it's dividing votes. Karl Rove used God and Religion this time it's going to be race or a woman.
Play on the fact that is America ready for a Black man to be President. Now Obama has done very well but when the racist come out there's your problem. They will point at the proven facts of Obama. He doesn't have the experience or qualification to be President. Yes George W. got in but his Daddy paved the way with money and power. Obama doesn't have that. Now if Hillary get it they will pull the sex card. But the problem with Hillary is she has earned the experience and qualifies but it's the woman thing and Bill. Yes smart move to push Obama he's easier to beat. As you see the Stock Market fall yet again all Americans Dems and Republicans will remember how Bill Clinton built a strong Stock Market and US economy. So with the help of Obama and the African Americans, Republicans will win the White House yet again.

the repugs stand firmly behind chris matthews PUMPING HIM full
of their reichwingnut juice......and he just loves it !

Marge @ 19:

Regardless of all the Obama supporters trying to make him as a saint. The corporate republican MSM and the republican rank and file WANT Obama to be the candidate. They know that they will never beat Edwards or Hillary. They want Obama so they can win. Obama will never carry a southern state. There are too many that won't vote for him.

The Hillbots descend.

Oh, and, please list the Southern States you expect Hillary to carry, especially after she and Bill have pissed of 80% of the black vote...

Tick...tick....tick......

Hint: The Republics and Cross-overs loathe Hillary, so the whole
"Obama can't carry the south" is such a red-herring.

McCain or Romney wipes Hillary out in the South....

Oh, and Kat at 33?

The big dog's economic recovery was powered by Intel and Microsoft, and the entire Tech sector.....

Hillary will inherit NONE of that upturn.

And, folks are right, the Clintons sure act progressive to get elected,
but when in office, Bill in the WH and Hillary in the Senate dash
to the middle......

Just ask Mark Penn and Dick Morris? Nothing like surrounding yourself
with progressives (Snark!)

"Hardball Power Rankings: McCain, Romney Beat Obama - Rudy Rocks!"

Wadda ya expect from Tweety, he's pandering to his base. Ha!

MCain or Romney beating Obama is not surprising, if you're actually taking into account how bigotted and prejudiced this country really is. Sadly, there are still enough bigots, rednecks and assholes in this country that make it unlikely that a black man will ever be President in our lifetimes, even if it means electing an old geezer like McCain, or a pandering, flip-flopping corporate elitist like Mitt Romney.

Can you say spin? Chris Matthews is just doing his usual spin for his corporate overlords.

It's a power rankings. To some degree I can see how they came up with the standings, but I just don't understand the why MSNBC thinks it's relevant other than to put some sort of positive spin on it for Republicans. Power rankings works well for sports (since stats are not subjective), but I can't see it working for politics. It really begins de-emphasizing issues at hand. So, whatever, the corporate media can do to take away from the issues, they'll do it.

I saw the same segment last night, and as a sports writer (who deals a little with power rankings) here's what I came up with...

The rankings isn't necessarily based upon votes at primaries or caucuses. I'm willing to bet it also has to do with momentum (Hillary, McCain, Romney have it, Obama doesn't), polls (not just party, but head to head), amount of money raised, media attention, etc.

In some respects McCain and Romney are ahead of Obama.

Obama's in fourth?

I'm calling bullshit.

CD @ 83:

Obama's in fourth?

I'm calling bullshit.

No wonder. Hardbull IS a steaming pile of BS and always has been, always will be with the hip-wader wearing shoveler of same as host, and GE as the farmer.

nonbeliever @ 82:

WashStateBlue @ 73:

Marge @ 19:

Regardless of all the Obama supporters trying to make him as a saint. The corporate republican MSM and the republican rank and file WANT Obama to be the candidate. They know that they will never beat Edwards or Hillary. They want Obama so they can win. Obama will never carry a southern state. There are too many that won't vote for him.

The Hillbots descend.

Oh, and, please list the Southern States you expect Hillary to carry, especially after she and Bill have pissed of 80% of the black vote...

Tick...tick....tick......

Hint: The Republics and Cross-overs loathe Hillary, so the whole
"Obama can't carry the south" is such a red-herring.

McCain or Romney wipes Hillary out in the South....

Oh, and Kat at 33?

The big dog's economic recovery was powered by Intel and Microsoft, and the entire Tech sector.....

Hillary will inherit NONE of that upturn.

And, folks are right, the Clintons sure act progressive to get elected,
but when in office, Bill in the WH and Hillary in the Senate dash
to the middle......

Just ask Mark Penn and Dick Morris? Nothing like surrounding yourself
with progressives (Snark!)

Educate me. Is the black vote enough to carry ANY southern state? Are you so sure that 80% of the black vote is actually pissed at the Clintons or are you just pulling random numbers out of the air.

I see Hillary picking up Arkansas if Huckabee isn't on the repug ticket.

In the South, I really think Virginia and Florida are the only states in play. The Democrats should definitely not concede the South but they should consider picking up states in other regions.

The Midwest, Mountain West and Southwest. States like Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah can be won.

Now we got the Hispanic vote to recon with. They like Hillary. Why? I know hispanics and blacks are both fighting for the scraps in the form of low paying jobs and afffordable homes.

WHY is anyone still even tuning in to the by now wholly irrelevant buffoon Matthews? Seriously, what credibility has this lowbrow got left? Hardball, my ass.

I don't believe a word that spews from the mouth of Chris Matthews or Tucker Carlson. They are two of the biggest non entities on television. Matthews should take time off to take care of his persistant cough and Tucker just needs to come out of the closet.

CriminalGeorgeW @ 90:

Don't scratch your head. The REALITY is that ANY one of the top 3 Republican candidates will beat Obama, anyone who doesn't think so, do not know the America we live in. Obama is the Repugs winning strategy, because they know America better than Democrats.

I will vote for him anyway even if he will not win the nomination.

Where's Edwards?

Notice they left John Edwards off the list because he winds up beating all the Republicans. Such BS propaganda, its sickening. I hope Democrats are smarter than to believe this BS!

GREG @ 96:

nonbeliever @ 94:

GREG @ 93:

CriminalGeorgeW @ 90:
I will vote for him anyway even if he will not win the nomination.

He's talking about the general election. I'll support Obama if he is the nominee but I don't believe for a second he'll carry any state in the South. No way.

I know. I will vote for him against Hillary. Hillary will probably get the nomination.

And what will you do if Hillary gets the nomination?

I think this is a bogus complaint Logan.

The question is: "Who's got the best shot at being the next president?"
All that's being said here is that the Republican nomination is more up in the air than on the Democratic side.

If Hillary gets the nomination, then Obama has much less of a chance (~0.0%) at becoming the next president than any Republican nominee no matter how pathetic they may be.

i.e. the odds that Obama wins over Hillary are less than the odds that McCain and Romney both beat Giuliani.

Stats confuse us all, but I think you're just injecting an unwarranted controversy into this. That being said, I'd agree that the Hardball presentation is silly, but I didn't even see an implication here that McCain or Romney beat Obama in a general election.

Don't be so stupid folks. You sent Bush to the White House, based on the polling data these ass holes have been giving you.

When are you going to see through these people?.

If they could beat Obama like those of us who know they are going to kick Hillary in her ass, then why are they not promoting him instead.

They want Hillary in there so bad they are paying both black and white fools to run all over this country to attack any and everything they think may stand in the way and they have done this from the beginning of this election process.

They have successfully ran Dennis Kuccinich out of the way and all the rest that would be a threat to this woman and now they are working on Edwards and while they are successfully breaking him down.

Obama will be next.

Wake the hell up you silly people and learn something about this process or we are going to get this silly woman in place to get her ass kicked by these morons.