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MSNBC has just announced that Barack Obama is the projected winner of the Democratic presidential primary. Keith Olbermann just announced the projection, stating Obama will win by a "substantial margin." The numbers must have just been overwhelming for them to be making the call just as the polls were closing. We'll have more updates and coverage as they happen...

Update: Jamie has an updating graphic on the election results.

CNN has a graph on the exit poll results.

Juan Williams on FOX said that Obama getting 24% of the white vote was a problem. Huh? What the heck is he drinking?

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norm's picture

Gobama!

IdahoMoe's picture

RACE RACE RACE AT MSNBC.....get yer racism at MSNBC

Triceratops's picture

Bah!

What are the percentages?

cindylou's picture

Obama wins
Obama wins

The witch goes down in flames in a state she was predicted to win up until last month when the world saw how serious we Obama supporters are.

Now it's onward and upwards. All hail Obama. The witch is done!

ConcernedCanuck's picture

Triceratops @ 3:

Bah!

What are the percentages?

Right now Obama 70 Clinton 18 Edwards 12

andy's picture

I think the media and Hillary have put race relations back 50 years with there coverage of this, pretty disgusting

Ozymandias's picture

Will it matter with Hillary commanding all of these "super-delegates?" How ironic that the Republican Primary is more democratic than the Democratic Primary.

andy's picture

Obama = AIPAC
Obama = Zbigniew Brzezinski's foreign policy , the man who put together an early version of Al Qeada.

Obama = change ? ... nope.

Clay's picture

It's a beautiful day.

Triceratops's picture

ConcernedCanuck @ 5:

Triceratops @ 3:

Bah!

What are the percentages?

Right now Obama 70 Clinton 18 Edwards 12

Yikes. Edwards only 12%? Sad. Clinton also seems to be screwed.

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andy @ 8:

Obama = AIPAC
Obama = Zbigniew Brzezinski's foreign policy , the man who put together an early version of Al Qeada.

Obama = change ? ... nope.

Was hoping some God would have given Edwards an overwhelming majority to teach these two corporate puppets a lesson, but dem voters say otherwise I guess.

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My faith in the American people is restored. Obama did reasonably well among whites, and Edwards's getting the white male vote with Obama's big win shows that there is an anti-Clinton vote out there. Playing low down and dirty and racist in the South didn't work for The Clintons. Come on, John, get in second!

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cindylou @ 4:

Obama wins
Obama wins

The witch goes down in flames in a state she was predicted to win up until last month when the world saw how serious we Obama supporters are.

Now it's onward and upwards. All hail Obama. The witch is done!

Takes a witch to know one . nah nah nah

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Triceratops @ 10:

ConcernedCanuck @ 5:

Triceratops @ 3:

Bah!

What are the percentages?

Right now Obama 70 Clinton 18 Edwards 12

Yikes. Edwards only 12%? Sad. Clinton also seems to be screwed.

It's earyly.......still says 0% reporting

Don Davis's picture

Perhaps it's high time that Toni Morrison lead the impeachment of Bill Clinton ... from the 'Black Presidency.'

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ConcernedCanuck @ 11:

andy @ 8:

Obama = AIPAC
Obama = Zbigniew Brzezinski's foreign policy , the man who put together an early version of Al Qeada.

Obama = change ? ... nope.

Was hoping some God would have given Edwards an overwhelming majority to teach these two corporate puppets a lesson, but dem voters say otherwise I guess.

John Edwards would be much preferable to both Obama and Hillary, he voted for the war which was bad but at leas he's seen the error of his ways and actually had the sense to go after the neo-cons recently, he gained some respect from me for that.

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The power guys prefer Hillary.

She will be the Dem candidate.

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andy @ 16:

ConcernedCanuck @ 11:

andy @ 8:

Obama = AIPAC
Obama = Zbigniew Brzezinski's foreign policy , the man who put together an early version of Al Qeada.

Obama = change ? ... nope.

Was hoping some God would have given Edwards an overwhelming majority to teach these two corporate puppets a lesson, but dem voters say otherwise I guess.

John Edwards would be much preferable to both Obama and Hillary, he voted for the war which was bad but at leas he's seen the error of his ways and actually had the sense to go after the neo-cons recently, he gained some respect from me for that.

Ya, John is saying the right things, but Americans are ignoring him like the plague. Wonder why that is?

hope's picture

So why did Hillary target Edwards with her robo calls? Did she know it was basically a fight for second place?

Impeach cheney and bush's picture

The ONLY surprise is if he would not have won. Yeah- race had nothing to do with his win-sure. If race did not have anything to do with it then why was not the favorite son the forecasted winner? I will never vote for Barak. He is not qualified-just like Bush was never qualified. And frankly, I don't want an "inspiritation" president. I want a brilliant hard working-burn the mid-night oil kind of president. Save the inspiration speeches for church. If your not willing to work-keep your ass out of the WH.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

63-25-12 now........Obama, Hillary, Edwards

trueblue's picture

This is a coalition that has the potential to retire the Klinton Klan.

Marge's picture

Well he still hasn't WON a real state. With the black democrats in SC outnumbering the white democrats who didn't know he would win.

The thing is...the more the blacks say they are voting for him because he is black the more the tide is turning against him. And it is going to be hard as hell for him to win a state with a dominate white population. Don't count Iowa with all the illegal bussing of students in to vote and then return home, that state can't be counted.

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Impeach cheney and bush @ 21:

The ONLY surprise is if he would not have won. Yeah- race had nothing to do with his win-sure. If race did not have anything to do with it then why was not the favorite son the forecasted winner? I will never vote for Barak. He is not qualified-just like Bush was never qualified. And frankly, I don't want an "inspiritation" president. I want a brilliant hard working-burn the mid-night oil kind of president. Save the inspiration speeches for church. If your not willing to work-keep your ass out of the WH.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182073/%20http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/a...

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@21
" I don’t want an “inspiritation” president. I want a brilliant hard working-burn the mid-night oil kind of president"

I'm kind of hoping for both

Professor R's picture

How can they call it with 0% reporting? I bet 5 bucks Clinton closes the gap.

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ConcernedCanuck @ 19:

andy @ 16:

ConcernedCanuck @ 11:

andy @ 8:

Was hoping some God would have given Edwards an overwhelming majority to teach these two corporate puppets a lesson, but dem voters say otherwise I guess.

John Edwards would be much preferable to both Obama and Hillary, he voted for the war which was bad but at leas he's seen the error of his ways and actually had the sense to go after the neo-cons recently, he gained some respect from me for that.

Ya, John is saying the right things, but Americans are ignoring him like the plague. Wonder why that is?

Maybe because the mainstream media is all-but ignoring him? I agree that he would make an excellent president (if I had my way, he'd still be Vice President and preparing for a run in 2012).

As for Obama's making nice with AIPAC ... I admit that I'm disappointed. However, name me one major contender who hasn't done the same. I just hope that, when it's all said and done, he's able to maintain enough independence to allow our country to finally adopt a sane policy in re: Israel and Palestine.

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Marge @ 24:

Well he still hasn't WON a real state. With the black democrats in SC outnumbering the white democrats who didn't know he would win.

The thing is...the more the blacks say they are voting for him because he is black the more the tide is turning against him. And it is going to be hard as hell for him to win a state with a dominate white population. Don't count Iowa with all the illegal bussing of students in to vote and then return home, that state can't be counted.

Because only white people's votes count. If someone wins in a state with a majority of black people it's not a "real" state.

Are these the type of ignorant low-education people that are supporting Clinton?

ciu's picture

Obama won the battle but he (and Hillary) have lost the war.

By mobilizing people around race and gender Obama and Hillary have each undermined their chances for the presidency.

"Race" worked for Obama inside SC but has now cancelled out the reason for his appeal -- unity and change.

"Gender" didn't work for Hill in SC and will come back to bite her in the ass later.

The dems are screwed. Once again we've self-destructed and KKKarl Rove is laughing his ass off.

Yossarian's picture

Geeeze...and I was wondering how we could possibly loose in Nov.
When's the swimsuit competition?

dadams's picture

i hope that when we have the presidential election in nov, that msnbc does not
start calling the winner before the election precincts close on the west coast. that is a great disservice to those of us who are still voting. it has a habit of suppressing the voter turnout on the western states.

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Impeach cheney and bush @ 21:

The ONLY surprise is if he would not have won. Yeah- race had nothing to do with his win-sure.blockquote>

The huge margin by which he's winning is pretty surprising...

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Professor R @ 27:

How can they call it with 0% reporting? I bet 5 bucks Clinton closes the gap.

59-28-13 Obama-Billary-Edwards..........you'd be right

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Clay @ 29:

Marge @ 24:

Well he still hasn't WON a real state. With the black democrats in SC outnumbering the white democrats who didn't know he would win.

The thing is...the more the blacks say they are voting for him because he is black the more the tide is turning against him. And it is going to be hard as hell for him to win a state with a dominate white population. Don't count Iowa with all the illegal bussing of students in to vote and then return home, that state can't be counted.

Because only white people's votes count. If someone wins in a state with a majority of black people it's not a "real" state.

Are these the type of ignorant low-education people that are supporting Clinton?

Furthermore, should all of those students have been disenfranchised? They aren't able to vote at home, and they shouldn't be allowed to caucus there? That doesn't make any sense.

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ConcernedCanuck @ 34:

Professor R @ 27:

How can they call it with 0% reporting? I bet 5 bucks Clinton closes the gap.

59-28-13 Obama-Billary-Edwards..........you'd be right

What's the spread?

Commie's picture

If you are truely green, you'll vote [d]!!!!
(or plant a tree)

jules's picture

I just can't believe that none of you seem upset over the msnbc coverage and their juvenile behavior. Maybe its just me ??

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Paul in LA @ 307:

Clyde @ 303:

Obama did reasonably well among whites

25 Per Cent is reasonably well? Honey, he'll have to do better than that to win a general election.

Thats' a non sequitur. A primary is NOT a general election.

If he wins the nomination, PLENTY of whites will vote for him, including yours truly.

As a fellow Edwards supporter, I'll join Paul in his support for who ever wins the Democratic nomination because he... as I do also... knows:

1. All of the Democratic candidates have now gone on record that they will end the war by the end of their first year in office as they stated in the last debate.

The Republicans all have said they will continue the war.

2. The next President will no doubt name at least one, if not up to four nominees for SCOTUS.

One more "conservative" justice on the Supreme court and you will see the end of the Republic as we have know it since FDR's New Deal in 1945. The present court has already thrown "established law" out the window and seeks to shore up the corporatist proto-fascist state that Bush and Cheney have sought to create.

3. No matter which candidate's health care plan you support, and there are major differences no matter what some of the campaigns have been spinning... as Krugman said it "the worst Democrats plan is still far superior to anything that the Republicans have put out there."

Health care doesn't need reform... it demands it and the Institute of Medicines' study concluded that 18,000 Americans die needless deaths every year because they can't get health care.

Over half the personal bankruptcies in the US are due to a health care crisis in the family and the dirty little secret is that 75% of them had health care insurance. The Ohio State and Harvard University studies showed that there a over 400,000 families who file for bankruptcy because of a medical crisis and slide into poverty each year and the majority were middle class families!

4. There aren't any heroes who can bring change all by themselves in the Democratic pack.

There has been a lot of deference given to candidates to mythologize them... "Obama is the next JFK" and such. Well even the JFK and RFK needed to be pressured to do the right thing when it came to civil rights.

It is going to take an informed, engaged, and active American public to hold any of the candidates feet to the fire to be certain that real change happens. We're going to have to deal with the DINOs and Blue Dogs in congress and the days of letting someone else fight the fight are over.

In short... its up to us. America will be what we by our actions or inactions let it become.

So congratulations Senator Obama! Now on to the rest of the USA!

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jules @ 362:

I just can't believe that none of you seem upset over the msnbc coverage and their juvenile behavior. Maybe its just me ??

I didn't see it...no cable here...what was going on there?

nonbeliever's picture

I'm watching MSNBC. Did anyone else notice how much of a better broadcast it is with Keith and David versus Keith and Tweety? Keith said it was a pleasure to work with David. I don't recall him saying the same to Tweety on air.

Commie's picture

Snowball @ 359:

Those compromises were futile and damaged the Democratic party. We , and he, got nothing in return for them. Clinton was a pretty decent President, despite everything Republicans threw at him, he left office more popular than Reagan. My point is however, their DLC inspired strategy has gained nothing for the party and made it appear unprincipled. I contend that had Clinton stuck by principles instead of machine politics, he would have been even more successful and never lost the House and Senate.

Youre are talking out you ass! He was the only Dem that could get elected in the face of a nation wide conservative swing. Dont hate him for that! the republicans were excellent at misinfo and it is only now the US is ready to see that.

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Sany @ 360:

Marge @ 24 is Right. SC is not a true reflection of Obama winning a state. SC has a majority of African Americans. They were going to vote for him based on his race. Obama will not win many states where the majority of voters are white, especially the ones over 60. I hate to see the democratic party make fools of themselves. But, when this is all over, the democrtic party is going to look back and say "What were we thinking".

Let me get this straight...

1. If a state has a majority of black people voting in an election that states election isn't a "true" state.
2. African Americans can't vote for a candidate that they think is best for their country, but only for a candidate with their same skin color.

And you probably don't call yourself a racist, huh?

Sany's picture

The fix is in for Dems to loose in November. Putting Hillary and Obama in as the front runners, was a for sure loss for the Democratic Party. I believe in November, Republicans will be out in DROVES to vote against either Hillary or Obama if they are selected for the nomination. Yes, Karl Rove is laughing his ass off right now.He's got to be saying "Please dems, give me a challenge, this is getting ridiculous".

Commie's picture

If you dont vote [d] in 08 then you deserve a repub

Sany's picture

Hey Clay, I'm just letting you know how Americans think. Don't blame me, but those are the facts.

Commie's picture

Sany @ 370:

Hey Clay, I'm just letting you know how Americans think. Don't blame me, but those are the facts.

Youre voting for mccain?

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jules @ 362:

I just can't believe that none of you seem upset over the msnbc coverage and their juvenile behavior. Maybe its just me ??

It's not just you. Scar has been on Bill Clinton's case the entire day. He started during the Morning Joe program in South Carolina. He flew up to New York and he's still digging in on Clinton. One of these days, Clinton should let Scar interview him and then put the smackdown on Scar the way he did that other tool Chris Wallace.

Stellaa's picture

So, now that you are inspired, what will you do? What were you inspired to? Did you transcend? Are you going tomorrow to devote yourself to being Green, what is this inspiration? How will you change? Inspiration implies that you ignited something in you stop telling me you are inspired. Inspired to what?

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Having offered my critique of the Clinton's DLC strategies, I must now say that as much as the Clinton's economic policies have caused me personal pain (I've lost jobs to outsourcing thanks to NAFTA) if Clinton wins the nomination, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for her. The only thing that will matter after that is who gets to name the next Supreme Court appointee. The far reaching impact of that nomination will outlast any 4 to 8 year presidential term.

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Snowball @ 374:

Having offered my critique of the Clinton's DLC strategies, I must now say that as much as the Clinton's economic policies have caused me personal pain (I've lost jobs to outsourcing thanks to NAFTA) if Clinton wins the nomination, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for her. The only thing that will matter after that is who gets to name the next Supreme Court appointee. The far reaching impact of that nomination will outlast any 4 to 8 year presidential term.

Amen!

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Commie @ 366:

Snowball @ 359:

Those compromises were futile and damaged the Democratic party. We , and he, got nothing in return for them. Clinton was a pretty decent President, despite everything Republicans threw at him, he left office more popular than Reagan. My point is however, their DLC inspired strategy has gained nothing for the party and made it appear unprincipled. I contend that had Clinton stuck by principles instead of machine politics, he would have been even more successful and never lost the House and Senate.

Youre are talking out you ass! He was the only Dem that could get elected in the face of a nation wide conservative swing. Dont hate him for that! the republicans were excellent at misinfo and it is only now the US is ready to see that.

Rubbish, nobody voted for NAFTA. And I don't hate Clinton, I'm only critiquing his political strategy.

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Snowball @ 374:

Having offered my critique of the Clinton's DLC strategies, I must now say that as much as the Clinton's economic policies have caused me personal pain (I've lost jobs to outsourcing thanks to NAFTA) if Clinton wins the nomination, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for her. The only thing that will matter after that is who gets to name the next Supreme Court appointee. The far reaching impact of that nomination will outlast any 4 to 8 year presidential term.

You Understand! Eureka! Someone with common sense on this thread!

SCOTUS justices will determine the direction of this country for the next 30 to 40 years, not just the 4 to 8 of a presidency! Roe vs. Wade, Habeas Corpus, wiretaps, civil liberties etc etc etc.

Sany's picture

JOHN EDWARDS for President. Hillary and Obama are dividing the party along race and gender lines. If you think it is going to stop it won't. That is how they plan to take each other out of the race, and in the process, bring everyone in the Democratic Party down. Already, most progressives have chosen their candidate. I predict, if your chosen candidate is not picked, you will hold a grudge and not go out and vote in November. That spells defeat for the democrats. The fix was in for this a long time ago. MSM had this cooked up a year ago. And unfortunately, Dems are following right along.

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Where-o-where are you 'pissed off patricia'? I'm sure now, that you're the only one out there that might agree with me. I've let Joe Scarborough get under my skin and I'm being tortured by him and his ridiculous performance tonite. You're probaly out having a great time while I keep looking at this fool from Pensicola.

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Snowball @ 376:

Commie @ 366:

Snowball @ 359:

Those compromises were futile and damaged the Democratic party. We , and he, got nothing in return for them. Clinton was a pretty decent President, despite everything Republicans threw at him, he left office more popular than Reagan. My point is however, their DLC inspired strategy has gained nothing for the party and made it appear unprincipled. I contend that had Clinton stuck by principles instead of machine politics, he would have been even more successful and never lost the House and Senate.

Youre are talking out you ass! He was the only Dem that could get elected in the face of a nation wide conservative swing. Dont hate him for that! the republicans were excellent at misinfo and it is only now the US is ready to see that.

Rubbish, nobody voted for NAFTA. And I don't hate Clinton, I'm only critiquing his political strategy.

Im sorry, i didnt realize you were the one person who didnt make a pile of money in the 90s

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uncle joe mccarthy @ 333:

D-Rock @ 329:

drew @ 288:

D-Rock @ 248:

Uh...she did work as a lawyer for wal-mart.....and coca-cola...and she worked for Richard Nixon....and was a college republican. get your fucking facts straight.

If clinton wins it will be another win for corporate america

Learn how to comprehend what you read! I didn't claim that what Obama said wasn't true. My complaint is how the media keeps showing her Resko accusation, which is true by the way, but doesn't show his attack on her which started the entire exchance. Her response was retaliatory. Obama started it, but idiots like you have no idea.

As for your corporate America bullshit comment, Obama is taking just as much from the corporate scumbags. Kucinech was the only candidate who had any real integrity, but the media lowlifes and cluesless idiots made sure that he had no chance.

nice spin

what are they...children???

first off, obama was responding to an attack by hillary when he brought up her connection with walmart

she then responded with the only bit of dirt her campaign could find (btw, he worked for the firm, not directly for the scumbag)

and then, lo and behold, there is a pic of her, the prez and the scumbag....gotchya

in the day and age of the internet, the clintons cant get away with shite

You're talking about spin? Obama is connected with Rezko as you can see here.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article

Show me where Clinton was connected with this guy. That picture is a joke. Candidates take pictures with people that they don't know every day.

jules's picture

Thank-you nonbeliever , i maybe can go on now, maybe

nonbeliever's picture

Sany @ 368:

The fix is in for Dems to loose in November. Putting Hillary and Obama in as the front runners, was a for sure loss for the Democratic Party. I believe in November, Republicans will be out in DROVES to vote against either Hillary or Obama if they are selected for the nomination. Yes, Karl Rove is laughing his ass off right now.He's got to be saying "Please dems, give me a challenge, this is getting ridiculous".

I don't think there are enough hate mongers to win the general election for the repugs this year. If people are just going to vote on anti-Hillary or anti-Barack sentiment, the repugs will just be marginalized as the party of hate. That may be enough to carry most of the South, but that won't play in the rest of the country. If we can keep Kerry's states and win Missouri, Ohio, Colorado and New Mexico it'll be over for the repugs before we count the votes in California.

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Sany @ 349:

OBama has just branded himself a "black candidate". Winning in SC was no news. Everyone knew he was going to win. America is still a very racist nation, that is just the way it is. Even if he did get the nomination, I think it will destroy the Democratic party for many years to come. Obama will never win never win in the General Election, and that's going to get a lot of Democratis angry, as he should not have been given the nomination in the first place. That could set back African American candidates for many years to come.I guess Democrats are just dreamers, though, that's why we never seem to win Elections. Oh Well!

Speak for your fucking self. You don't speak for this American and certainly not for the rest of America.

The irony in you words is where the true racism lies. Fuck off troll.

Sany's picture

Hey Snowball, what you fail to say is that you have to pick a winning candidate in order to win in the General Election in November. HELLOW!!! Hillary and Obama WILL NOT win in the General Election. GET IT. That is why it is sooooo important to pick the RIGHT Candidate, the one that can win in the General Election come November. Which Candidate among the three is going to get ALL DEMOCRATS and independents, and hopefully some Republicans to come out and vote for them??? I don't think the answer to that question is Hillary or Obama. Now do you get it! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

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jules @ 382:

Thank-you nonbeliever , i maybe can go on now, maybe

I HATE THE PRESS!!!! ITS SO LIBERAL!!!!!! HA!

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D-Rock @ 381:

uncle joe mccarthy @ 333:

D-Rock @ 329:

drew @ 288:

Learn how to comprehend what you read! I didn't claim that what Obama said wasn't true. My complaint is how the media keeps showing her Resko accusation, which is true by the way, but doesn't show his attack on her which started the entire exchance. Her response was retaliatory. Obama started it, but idiots like you have no idea.

As for your corporate America bullshit comment, Obama is taking just as much from the corporate scumbags. Kucinech was the only candidate who had any real integrity, but the media lowlifes and cluesless idiots made sure that he had no chance.

nice spin

what are they...children???

first off, obama was responding to an attack by hillary when he brought up her connection with walmart

she then responded with the only bit of dirt her campaign could find (btw, he worked for the firm, not directly for the scumbag)

and then, lo and behold, there is a pic of her, the prez and the scumbag....gotchya

in the day and age of the internet, the clintons cant get away with shite

You're talking about spin? Obama is connected with Rezko as you can see here.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article

Show me where Clinton was connected with this guy. That picture is a joke. Candidates take pictures with people that they don't know every day.

holy crap...he gave a kid an internship??? a month long internship???

ya....thems are some deep ties

as for the pic thing...if pics mean nothing, why did the wh go out of its way to make sure that all the pics with abramoff are gone

a picture speaks a thousand words

the clintons are dirty bastards

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D-Rock @ 381:

uncle joe mccarthy @ 333:

D-Rock @ 329:

drew @ 288:

Learn how to comprehend what you read! I didn't claim that what Obama said wasn't true. My complaint is how the media keeps showing her Resko accusation, which is true by the way, but doesn't show his attack on her which started the entire exchance. Her response was retaliatory. Obama started it, but idiots like you have no idea.

As for your corporate America bullshit comment, Obama is taking just as much from the corporate scumbags. Kucinech was the only candidate who had any real integrity, but the media lowlifes and cluesless idiots made sure that he had no chance.

nice spin

what are they...children???

first off, obama was responding to an attack by hillary when he brought up her connection with walmart

she then responded with the only bit of dirt her campaign could find (btw, he worked for the firm, not directly for the scumbag)

and then, lo and behold, there is a pic of her, the prez and the scumbag....gotchya

in the day and age of the internet, the clintons cant get away with shite

You're talking about spin? Obama is connected with Rezko as you can see here.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article

Show me where Clinton was connected with this guy. That picture is a joke. Candidates take pictures with people that they don't know every day.

Obama's wife was on the Board of a company closely connected to Wall Mart...

Obama Wall mart connections: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=13635

jules's picture

If that was only true, Commie

mudshark's picture

Joe Scarburro needs to be reminded of the dead woman found in his office.The way he goes after the Clintons........I would call that fairplay.

Commie's picture

Sany @ 385:

Hey Snowball, what you fail to say is that you have to pick a winning candidate in order to win in the General Election in November. HELLOW!!! Hillary and Obama WILL NOT win in the General Election. GET IT. That is why it is sooooo important to pick the RIGHT Candidate, the one that can win in the General Election come November. Which Candidate among the three is going to get ALL DEMOCRATS and independents, and hopefully some Republicans to come out and vote for them??? I don't think the answer to that question is Hillary or Obama. Now do you get it! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

How can that be? why is edwards so much more electable nationally, just not within his own party.

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Rasputin @ 375:

Snowball @ 374:

Having offered my critique of the Clinton's DLC strategies, I must now say that as much as the Clinton's economic policies have caused me personal pain (I've lost jobs to outsourcing thanks to NAFTA) if Clinton wins the nomination, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for her. The only thing that will matter after that is who gets to name the next Supreme Court appointee. The far reaching impact of that nomination will outlast any 4 to 8 year presidential term.

Amen!

Thirded.

Commie's picture

mudshark @ 390:

Joe Scarburro needs to be reminded of the dead woman found in his office.The way he goes after the Clintons........I would call that fairplay.

WHAAAAAAAAAA? did i just read you right?

Sany's picture

Nonbeliever - 383- Did you ever hear of the Electoral college? How do you plan on winning the electoral college if you put in Hillary or Obama, or better yet, Hillary/Obama? Now that's a winning ticket!! (HA HA HA)!! I really can't believe the stupidity of some of the bloggers on this blog. You guys better get your head out of your you know what, because the Democratic party is going to suffer big because of your nonsencial thinking!

Sany's picture

391- That is because Hillary and Obama are splitting the white/African American vote, that's why. Is that too difficult for you to comprehend. I truly am amazed at the stupidity of the members of the Democratic Party right now.

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Sany @ 394:

Nonbeliever - 383- Did you ever hear of the Electoral college? How do you plan on winning the electoral college if you put in Hillary or Obama, or better yet, Hillary/Obama? Now that's a winning ticket!! (HA HA HA)!! I really can't believe the stupidity of some of the bloggers on this blog. You guys better get your head out of your you know what, because the Democratic party is going to suffer big because of your nonsencial thinking!

WE GOT ANOTHER REPUBLICAN!!!

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ConcernedCanuck @ 14:

Triceratops @ 10:

ConcernedCanuck @ 5:

Triceratops @ 3:

Right now Obama 70 Clinton 18 Edwards 12

Yikes. Edwards only 12%? Sad. Clinton also seems to be screwed.

It's earyly.......still says 0% reporting

.26% actually. Probably Obama's South Carolina relatives.

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CNN and MSNBC are creaming their jeans over this. I mean every single fucking one of them.

Since I don't trust the mainstream press, I am going to stick with Hillary. She has more to critique.

In my view, it is Obama playing the race card and it is not pretty.

Stellaa's picture

Did Jackson win South Carolina with a bigger percentage ...so what.

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ciu @ 30:

Obama won the battle but he (and Hillary) have lost the war.

By mobilizing people around race and gender Obama and Hillary have each undermined their chances for the presidency.

"Race" worked for Obama inside SC but has now cancelled out the reason for his appeal -- unity and change.

"Gender" didn't work for Hill in SC and will come back to bite her in the ass later.

The dems are screwed. Once again we've self-destructed and KKKarl Rove is laughing his ass off.

Let us be positive and say that the democratic nominee gets all the democratic votes.;p

rduke's picture

Just once... I would like to be able to vote for a Candidate I do not have to asphyxiate myself in between electro shock treatments to believe in...

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Jack Jett @ 38:

CNN and MSNBC are creaming their jeans over this. I mean every single fucking one of them.

Since I don't trust the mainstream press, I am going to stick with Hillary. She has more to critique.

In my view, it is Obama playing the race card and it is not pretty.

How has Obama played the race card? Seriously. Explain that to me.

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Ozymandias @ 42:

Jack Jett @ 38:

CNN and MSNBC are creaming their jeans over this. I mean every single fucking one of them.

Since I don't trust the mainstream press, I am going to stick with Hillary. She has more to critique.

In my view, it is Obama playing the race card and it is not pretty.

How has Obama played the race card? Seriously. Explain that to me.

Explain it to me, too, please.

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rduke @ 41:

Just once... I would like to be able to vote for a Candidate I do not have to asphyxiate myself in between electro shock treatments to believe in...

AMEN!

Clay's picture

Ozymandias @ 42:

Jack Jett @ 38:

CNN and MSNBC are creaming their jeans over this. I mean every single fucking one of them.

Since I don't trust the mainstream press, I am going to stick with Hillary. She has more to critique.

In my view, it is Obama playing the race card and it is not pretty.

How has Obama played the race card? Seriously. Explain that to me.

Something I'd like to know too. I wonder if he thinks Obama injected gender into the mix too. (Great name by the way)

ConcernedCanuck's picture

52-32-16 now with Obama still out front....Bill and Hillary at his heels.....of course it's going to be a close one!

Russ Mason UK's picture

How comes Amy Holmes - a former "fox news republican contributor" all of a sudden appears on CNN?

Yossarian's picture

The only one playing the race card is THE MEDIA...
It's very profitable....

Snowball's picture

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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Commie @ 393:

mudshark @ 390:

Joe Scarburro needs to be reminded of the dead woman found in his office.The way he goes after the Clintons........I would call that fairplay.

WHAAAAAAAAAA? did i just read you right?

yeah...you read it correctly....why?didn't you know about the dead woman found in Scarburros office?

Stellaa's picture

Obama's answer to the Chicago Sun about the failed projects

A: Housing partnerships in which low-income-housing tax credits are syndicated frequently struggle financially. The reasons for the problems such partnerships struggle are complex but frequently include urban crime, demographic changes and social factors outside the control of any developer or owner. Senator Obama was not otherwise aware of financial and physical problems attributable to misconduct by Mr. Rezko

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353786,CST-NWS-rezquestions23.article

Let me translate what the transcendant inspirational community organizer said: It was not Rezko's fault the projects failed, it was the fault of the low income African American neighborhood. Even when Rezko was in default and the projects were abandoned cause they were structured wrong, Rezko took all the reserves, operated badly, Obama blames the tenants. And you think he is inspirational? Are you guys nuts? He is a Chicago machine opportunist, created with you in mind.

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mudshark @ 398:

Commie @ 393:

mudshark @ 390:

Joe Scarburro needs to be reminded of the dead woman found in his office.The way he goes after the Clintons........I would call that fairplay.

WHAAAAAAAAAA? did i just read you right?

yeah...you read it correctly....why?didn't you know about the dead woman found in Scarburros office?

No. what was it?

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Sany @ 394:

Nonbeliever - 383- Did you ever hear of the Electoral college? How do you plan on winning the electoral college if you put in Hillary or Obama, or better yet, Hillary/Obama? Now that's a winning ticket!! (HA HA HA)!! I really can't believe the stupidity of some of the bloggers on this blog. You guys better get your head out of your you know what, because the Democratic party is going to suffer big because of your nonsencial thinking!

[Deleted. Please keep it civil. Site Monitor]...my post had the Electoral College in mind. Keeping Kerry's states and winning Ohio by itself is enough to win the general election. And it's nonsensical, moron.

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Sany @ 385:

Hey Snowball, what you fail to say is that you have to pick a winning candidate in order to win in the General Election in November. HELLOW!!! Hillary and Obama WILL NOT win in the General Election. GET IT. That is why it is sooooo important to pick the RIGHT Candidate, the one that can win in the General Election come November. Which Candidate among the three is going to get ALL DEMOCRATS and independents, and hopefully some Republicans to come out and vote for them??? I don't think the answer to that question is Hillary or Obama. Now do you get it! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

I refer you to my comment at:
Snowball@345

How's that meal of crow? I must admit, I haven't had to try it out yet. :D

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nonbeliever @ 401:

Sany @ 394:

Nonbeliever - 383- Did you ever hear of the Electoral college? How do you plan on winning the electoral college if you put in Hillary or Obama, or better yet, Hillary/Obama? Now that's a winning ticket!! (HA HA HA)!! I really can't believe the stupidity of some of the bloggers on this blog. You guys better get your head out of your you know what, because the Democratic party is going to suffer big because of your nonsencial thinking!

[Refers to deleted post. Site Monitor]my post had the Electoral College in mind. Keeping Kerry's states and winning Ohio by itself is enough to win the general election. And it's nonsensical, moron.

Electorial college? who cares? if the dems dont split, its gonna be a blood bath!!! Im telling ya, McCain is gonna miss the POW camp!

Mean Green's picture

Obama is MORE like REAGAN than J.F.K.You Sir Obama,are no JACK KENNDY.

Commie's picture

joe scar is my hero

Snowball's picture

Mean Green @ 404:

Obama is MORE like REAGAN than J.F.K.You Sir Obama,are no JACK KENNDY.

Hmmm, not according to JFK's daughter. But I guess you'd know better than his family. :D

A President Like My Father

By CAROLINE KENNEDY

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?_r=2&hp&oref=sl...

Commie's picture

MEAN GREEN...[Deleted. Please keep it civil, Commie. Site Monitor], youre burning coal to power your cpu to get the R's elected- I hope you get ate by a polar bear!

Snowball's picture

Oh, and I think you meant John, not Jack.

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Commie @ 386:

jules @ 382:

Thank-you nonbeliever , i maybe can go on now, maybe

I HATE THE PRESS!!!! ITS SO LIBERAL!!!!!! HA!

Liberal press is a myth just like the notion of tax cuts for the rich will trickle down to the rest of us.

You're welcome Jules.

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lone star @ 143:

White people are voting for Obama, I think 72% of Americans say we are now ready for a black president.

america is not ready except in some deluded minds!

Commie's picture

anyone trying to divide the d's can suck W's dick

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Commie @ 400:

mudshark @ 398:

Commie @ 393:

mudshark @ 390:

WHAAAAAAAAAA? did i just read you right?

yeah...you read it correctly....why?didn't you know about the dead woman found in Scarburros office?

No. what was it?

July,20,2001 one of his aides dies from a blow to the head.It's ruled "No Foul Play"....by the medical examiner..........the same medical examiner who had been fired for sloppy and incomplete work.In all fairness...it is said that Scarburro was in his office in DC.BUT....he is also known to have been an adulterer..........the guy reeks of hypocricy.

Commie's picture

tyree @ 410:

lone star @ 143:

White people are voting for Obama, I think 72% of Americans say we are now ready for a black president.

america is not ready except in some deluded minds!

America is way more ready for a black prez than another repub one

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mudshark @ 412:

Commie @ 400:

mudshark @ 398:

Commie @ 393: yeah...you read it correctly....why?didn't you know about the dead woman found in Scarburros office?

No. what was it?

July,20,2001 one of his aides dies from a blow to the head.It's ruled "No Foul Play"....by the medical examiner..........the same medical examiner who had been fired for sloppy and incomplete work.In all fairness...it is said that Scarburro was in his office in DC.BUT....he is also known to have been an adulterer..........the guy reeks of hypocricy.

I love Scar, he's a great human being!

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tyree @ 410:

lone star @ 143:

White people are voting for Obama, I think 72% of Americans say we are now ready for a black president.

america is not ready except in some deluded minds!

Yeah, but not this guy.

nonbeliever's picture

Ok, I'll keep it civil.

[Thanks! I know you will! :) Site Monitor]

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Commie @ 413:

tyree @ 410:

lone star @ 143:

White people are voting for Obama, I think 72% of Americans say we are now ready for a black president.

america is not ready except in some deluded minds!

America is way more ready for a black prez than another repub one

Which America would that be, the half that voted for George Bush twice?

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So Obama has the black vote.
Hillary has the white and Hispanic. They said on MSNBC that a respected Latino pollster did some polling and Clinton leads Obama 4 to 1 with Hispanics. Also they are the largest minority now.

This is how Hillary will win. I also think she may throw them a bone by selecting Richardson as her running mate. Which actually would not be a bad idea.

Obama is trying this too early. If he just had some experience at a national level or maybe even as a governor he would be better suited to be president. As it is he is less qualified than GWB was when he took office.

tyree's picture

the fix is in, clinton or obamas history , diebold elects mccain and liberdouch , long live the new banana republic

mudshark's picture

mudshark @ 412:

Commie @ 400:

mudshark @ 398:

Commie @ 393: yeah...you read it correctly....why?didn't you know about the dead woman found in Scarburros office?

No. what was it?

July,20,2001 one of his aides dies from a blow to the head.It's ruled "No Foul Play"....by the medical examiner..........the same medical examiner who had been fired for sloppy and incomplete work.In all fairness...it is said that Scarburro was in his office in DC.BUT....he is also known to have been an adulterer..........the guy reeks of hypocricy.

he officially resigns on Sept 5th...."To spend more time with his children"

jules's picture

Commie, I won't beable to sleep tonite, knowing he is your hero. Pleeeeeeeze tell me it' s not true

Snowball's picture

Areyoukiddingme @ 418:

So Obama has the black vote.
Hillary has the white and Hispanic. They said on MSNBC that a respected Latino pollster did some polling and Clinton leads Obama 4 to 1 with Hispanics. Also they are the largest minority now.

This is how Hillary will win. I also think she may throw them a bone by selecting Richardson as her running mate. Which actually would not be a bad idea.

Obama is trying this too early. If he just had some experience at a national level or maybe even as a governor he would be better suited to be president. As it is he is less qualified than GWB was when he took office.

All Obama has to do is pick Bill Richardson as a running mate. He'd be a great choice and lock up the Hispanic vote.

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Ruthless People @ 417:

Commie @ 413:

tyree @ 410:

lone star @ 143:
america is not ready except in some deluded minds!

America is way more ready for a black prez than another repub one

Which America would that be, the half that voted for George Bush twice?

no the america the repigs keep flashing on tv night and day till next november , the oj simpson trial the riots and burnings in watts ,the burnings after kl king was murdered the white guy pulled from his truck and who had his head bashed in with a concrete block willey horton ect ect and on and on !

jules's picture

I was hoping Hillary would pick Jim Webb for her VP, but i guess that dream is gone ,too.

Steven's picture

Well Snowball, a poll which was released i think last week showed that a huge majority of Latinos other than in New Mexico does not know that Bill Richardson is a latino =P

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Snowball @ 422:

Areyoukiddingme @ 418:

So Obama has the black vote.
Hillary has the white and Hispanic. They said on MSNBC that a respected Latino pollster did some polling and Clinton leads Obama 4 to 1 with Hispanics. Also they are the largest minority now.

This is how Hillary will win. I also think she may throw them a bone by selecting Richardson as her running mate. Which actually would not be a bad idea.

Obama is trying this too early. If he just had some experience at a national level or maybe even as a governor he would be better suited to be president. As it is he is less qualified than GWB was when he took office.

All Obama has to do is pick Bill Richardson as a running mate. He'd be a great choice and lock up the Hispanic vote.

So why is it not ok to suggest blacks may be monolithic in their support for Obama because he's black but it's ok to suggest Hispanics would be monolithic in their support for Richardson because he's Hispanic?

** sound of fellow progressives heads explode **

Ruthless People's picture

jules @ 424:

I was hoping Hillary would pick Jim Webb for her VP, but i guess that dream is gone ,too.

I don't think Webb would be willing to give up his senate seat just to go down in flames as Hillary's running mate. John Edwards could lecture Webb on making bad choices such as that.

mudshark's picture

one more thing about Scarburro.......he worked pro-bono on the murder case of Doctor David Gunn..he defended Michael F Griffin for free........for killing an abortion Doctor.

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jules @ 424:

I was hoping Hillary would pick Jim Webb for her VP, but i guess that dream is gone ,too.

jules, something you might consider is that the Dems will want to keep a solid hold on the Senate. Actually, they'll want to build on the slim lead in that chamber so they can override those fucking failed cloture votes. So don't expect the Democratic VP candidate to be a current Senator.

The logical choices right now would be Edwards and Richardson. And Richardson might be a good choice for Secretary of State. Just sayin'...

Snowball's picture

Richardson is a great choice, not because he's Hispanic, but because he's a great statesman with a laundry list of qualifications that beats out all the candidates Republican or Democrat. It sure wouldn't hurt the country to have a black, female, or Hispanic in the White House. BTW, Richardson wouldn't attract the ex-pat Cuban or Venezuelan vote, no Democrat will. No sense in pandering to them like Hillary has.

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Areyoukiddingme @ 418:

So Obama has the black vote.
Hillary has the white and Hispanic. They said on MSNBC that a respected Latino pollster did some polling and Clinton leads Obama 4 to 1 with Hispanics. Also they are the largest minority now.

This is how Hillary will win. I also think she may throw them a bone by selecting Richardson as her running mate. Which actually would not be a bad idea.

Obama is trying this too early. If he just had some experience at a national level or maybe even as a governor he would be better suited to be president. As it is he is less qualified than GWB was when he took office.

Obama and Hillary pretty much split the white vote. So you could say they share the white vote, and then each gets a minority vote. (obviously it's alot more complex than that).

I don't think Clinton picking Richardson as VP would necessarily be good...She doesn't need to throw the Hispanics a bone - at all. They're as with her as they can possibly get; as someone with a Hispanic family, living in a large hispanic community - the support for her is amazing around here. Better she try to pick up some of the disappointed Obama or Edwards supporters by picking one for VP, if she were to win.

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Hopefully Clinton will have to drop out after Super Tuesday and Edwards will start getting more and more delegates after that.

VietVet8666's picture

Distraction.

Hillary gets the nomination.

Johnny2Bad's picture

I guess its official. Lets all jump off the cliff together cuz...We Are Doooomed.

Stellaa's picture

Yes, Jackson won the primary in 1982, if Obama did not win he would have really been a loser. Jackson won with higher percentage, how do we find the percentage.

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ConcernedCanuck @ 46:

52-32-16 now with Obama still out front....Bill and Hillary at his heels.....of course it's going to be a close one!

Feck, Edwards is as always behind.

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Russ Mason UK @ 47:

How comes Amy Holmes - a former "fox news republican contributor" all of a sudden appears on CNN?

Cause CNN is the Clinton News Network and they need more supporters!??? Or maybe CNN is FoxTheSequel?

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although i am pleased that hillary did not win, i had hped for a stronger edwards showing...

but, as Ozymandias mentioned, what difference does it make anyway? the candidate will be chosen by the super delegates, not the dem primary voters.

does anyone possess a fulll list of these super delegates?

phhpt, super delegates... the democratic machine doesn't even trust its primary voters...

teknikAL's picture

Geez, you think the MSM would have learned to wait until they count the votes.

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Triceratops @ 52:

ConcernedCanuck @ 46:

52-32-16 now with Obama still out front....Bill and Hillary at his heels.....of course it's going to be a close one!

Feck, Edwards is as always behind.

Edwards is toast. Wonder how much longer he'll go before saying, oh well, I tried.

teknikAL's picture

teknikAL @ 55:

Geez, you think the MSM would have learned to wait until they count the votes.

I also direct this to those posting here.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

Samson- @ 54:

although i am pleased that hillary did not win, i had hped for a stronger edwards showing...

but, as Ozymandias mentioned, what difference does it make anyway? the candidate will be chosen by the super delegates, not the dem primary voters.

does anyone possess a fulll list of these super delegates?

phhpt, super delegates... the democratic machine doesn't even trust its primary voters...

Super delegates are members of Dem party in Congress, Dem Governors, and apparently former President's if I am correct?

Stellaa's picture

Oops 1984

VietVet8666's picture

It's going to be Hillary vs. McCain.

And McCain will win.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

51-30-19 now with 7% reporting

Ruthless People's picture

South Carolina has the highest percentage of African Americans than any state in the union so it's no surprise Obama is going to win this state by a landslide. Bush carried SC by 15% over Kerry in the last general election so Obama will loose this state to the Republican in the generals by a landslide as well. See it'll all even out in the end except that we'll have a Republcan in the White House again.

All hail president John McCain and the 2 new Alitos on the Supreme Court!

Boy that'll sure help advance the African American cause.

teknikAL's picture

teknikAL @ 57:

teknikAL @ 55:

Geez, you think the MSM would have learned to wait until they count the votes.

I also direct this to those posting here.

Oh that's right, they have DREs, they don't need to count!

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Samson- @ 54:

although i am pleased that hillary did not win, i had hped for a stronger edwards showing...

but, as Ozymandias mentioned, what difference does it make anyway? the candidate will be chosen by the super delegates, not the dem primary voters.

does anyone possess a fulll list of these super delegates?
My understanding, (cobbled together from blogs because the media either doesn't know or doesn't think we need to know) is that every Dem in Congress, every Dem governor, every living Dem ex-President, and some number of party chairs get to be their own delegate. So I guess 50,000 people could equal one delegate for Edwards or Obama, but Bill gets to cancel all of that out for his wife.

I'm sorry, I'm a proud Dem, but that's hard to defend.
phhpt, super delegates... the democratic machine doesn't even trust its primary voters...

The only entity injecting race or gender into this . . .race . . . is the Media. (The Republicans are of course guilty of injecting religion into their campaigns, but that's another story.) The major outlets are calling this a "racially-charged" primary. C'mon

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andy @ 8:

Obama = AIPAC
Obama = Zbigniew Brzezinski's foreign policy , the man who put together an early version of Al Qeada.

Obama = change ? ... nope.

you are sociopathic

hate to break this to you, but every candidate running has pledged to continue supporting israel

thats right....unless there is anarchy in the us, this country and its pols will continue to support the state of israel

we win....you can cry now

ciu's picture

Impeach cheney and bush @ 21:

The ONLY surprise is if he would not have won. Yeah- race had nothing to do with his win-sure. If race did not have anything to do with it then why was not the favorite son the forecasted winner? I will never vote for Barak. He is not qualified-just like Bush was never qualified. And frankly, I don't want an "inspiritation" president. I want a brilliant hard working-burn the mid-night oil kind of president. Save the inspiration speeches for church. If your not willing to work-keep your ass out of the WH.

I do NOT want to see Obama win on the African-American vote, and I do NOT want to Hilary win on the woman's vote. Identity politics will destroy our country. I want to see one of them win by "the content of their character."

The debate is not between which is the more oppressed group, women or blacks. The debate how to get criminals out of our government, how to get the fuck out of iraq, and how to get the economy out of the dumps.

They are both idiots for taking KKKarl Rove's bait. IDIOTS1

teknikAL's picture

teknikAL @ 63:

teknikAL @ 57:

teknikAL @ 55:

Geez, you think the MSM would have learned to wait until they count the votes.

I also direct this to those posting here.

Oh that's right, they have DREs, they don't need to count!

And there is no way to recount!

ConcernedCanuck's picture

Hillary is less than 8000 votes behind Obama.....it isn't going to be a landslide

Clay's picture

Ruthless People @ 62:

South Carolina has the highest percentage of African Americans than any state in the union so it's no surprise Obama is going to win this state by a landslide. Bush carried SC by 15% over Kerry in the last general election so Obama will loose this state to the Republican in the generals by a landslide as well. See it'll all even out in the end except that we'll have a Republcan in the White House again.

All hail president John McCain and the 2 new Alitos on the Supreme Court!

Boy that'll sure help advance the African American cause.

I hate how so many white people are so quick to dismiss South Carolina because 'it's obvious Obama will win there - there are a lot of black people.' And to make things worse the majority of people saying this call themselves "progressive." Ever consider that people look at a candidate and decide who they vote for based not only on the color of their skin but because of what they think they'll do for the benefit of the country?

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ConcernedCanuck @ 56:

Triceratops @ 52:

ConcernedCanuck @ 46:

52-32-16 now with Obama still out front....Bill and Hillary at his heels.....of course it's going to be a close one!

Feck, Edwards is as always behind.

Edwards is toast. Wonder how much longer he'll go before saying, oh well, I tried.

I hope he doesn't......at least not before super Tuesday. Stupid primaries.

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Ozymandias @ 64:

Samson- @ 54:

although i am pleased that hillary did not win, i had hped for a stronger edwards showing...

but, as Ozymandias mentioned, what difference does it make anyway? the candidate will be chosen by the super delegates, not the dem primary voters.

does anyone possess a fulll list of these super delegates?
My understanding, (cobbled together from blogs because the media either doesn't know or doesn't think we need to know) is that every Dem in Congress, every Dem governor, every living Dem ex-President, and some number of party chairs get to be their own delegate. So I guess 50,000 people could equal one delegate for Edwards or Obama, but Bill gets to cancel all of that out for his wife.

I'm sorry, I'm a proud Dem, but that's hard to defend.
phhpt, super delegates... the democratic machine doesn't even trust its primary voters...

The only entity injecting race or gender into this . . .race . . . is the Media. (The Republicans are of course guilty of injecting religion into their campaigns, but that's another story.) The major outlets are calling this a "racially-charged" primary. C'mon

according to the toe sucker, the clintons planned this all along, just to get the rest of the country fearful of a great darkie uprising

if true...its sad

and i dont put it past the clintons as i recall that during the kerry campaign, bill told kerry to come out against gay marriage

i really have lost all respect for the clintons....and that saddens me

ConcernedCanuck's picture

ciu @ 66:

Impeach cheney and bush @ 21:

The ONLY surprise is if he would not have won. Yeah- race had nothing to do with his win-sure. If race did not have anything to do with it then why was not the favorite son the forecasted winner? I will never vote for Barak. He is not qualified-just like Bush was never qualified. And frankly, I don't want an "inspiritation" president. I want a brilliant hard working-burn the mid-night oil kind of president. Save the inspiration speeches for church. If your not willing to work-keep your ass out of the WH.

I do NOT want to see Obama win on the African-American vote, and I do NOT want to Hilary win on the woman's vote. Identity politics will destroy our country. I want to see one of them win by "the content of their character."

The debate is not between which is the more oppressed group, women or blacks. The debate how to get criminals out of our government, how to get the fuck out of iraq, and how to get the economy out of the dumps.

They are both idiots for taking KKKarl Rove's bait. IDIOTS1

Exit polls are saying 61% are female.

Mean Green's picture

OBAMA IS A SLUMLORD.

Mean Green's picture

We need someone to lead this country,who is far to the left as can be.

tyree's picture

Mean Green @ 434:

We need someone to lead this country,who is far to the left as can be.

i am here then!!!!!!!!!!!

EZ's picture

Ditto, 432, Clinton should drop and white females will jump the Edward wagon.

The Kucinich crowd might vote for Edwards and so are the undecided voters.

EZ's picture

For the black population, Obama is surely their savior.

Can someone estimate the black population to vote in 2008?

Mean Green's picture

Obama is Bush Lite,he supported Holly Joe for godsake.How can some of you support,this two face liar.You can not run an election on faux unity.We heard this before,from CHIMMPY THE LYING CHIMP BUSH.I AM MAD AS HELL,AND AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.VOTE FOR THE GREEN PARTY IN 08.

Mean Green's picture

The country is wanting REAL CHANGE,VOTE FOR THE GREEN PARTY IN 08.If you want FAUX CHANGE,VOTE FOR HILLARY OR OBAMA IN 08.The Green Party takes no money from AIPAC,HILLARY AND OBAMA DO TAKE AIPACs MONEY.

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