Fox News' ratings take another slide
By Steve Benen Wednesday Jan 30, 2008 12:40pm
I’ll admit it; I have a special fondness for news about Fox News’ declining ratings. There’s just something about the drop in numbers that helps restore my faith in the American political system.
Eric Boehlert has the latest, in a great piece on why the Republican network is poised to have a very rough year.
The point is that Fox News years ago made an obvious decision to appeal almost exclusively to Republican viewers. The good news then for Fox News was that it succeeded. The bad news now for Fox News is that it succeeded.
Meaning, when the GOP catches a cold, everybody at Fox News gets sick. As blogger Logan Murphy put it at Crooks and Liars, “Watching FOXNews getting their comeuppance has been fun to watch. They made their bed, now they’re having to lie in it and it’s not too comfortable.”
The most obvious signs of Fox News’ downturn have been the cable ratings for the big primary and caucus votes this year, as well as the high-profile debates. With this election season generating unprecedented voter and viewer interest, Fox News’ rating bumps to date have remained underwhelming, to say the least.
In 2004, on the night of the New Hampshire primary, for example, Fox News beat CNN by 200,000 viewers, despite the fact that there was no Republican contest at the time. Four years later, CNN beat Fox News by 250,000 viewers, despite very competitive contests in both parties. (On Saturday night, when results of the Dems’ South Carolina primary were dominating the news, Fox News came in third, behind both CNN and MSNBC.)
CNN President Jonathan Klein, following its New Hampshire ratings win, said, “There’s a freshness and exuberance to our coverage that the others just aren’t matching…. Fox almost seems downright despondent in their coverage.”
It couldn’t have happened to a more appropriate network.
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The angry old white guy approach just doesn't have the sparkle it used to.
Good. Fuck them.
Productive comment, I know, but really what else is there to say?
Boycott not just Fox News, but Fox TV and all Murdoch-owned media. Maybe then Rupert will start telling the truth.
CNN is no angel.
having a panel of idiot neocons giving their opinions on the democratic debates is hardly much better than FOX.
Jeffrey Toobin is the only one worth keeping.
If the Fox News viewers I know (relatives) are any example, maybe it's because all those old, conservative, bigoted, religious, and generally ignorant, people are finally dying off.
It really is stunning the number of people in their 80's and older who are incredibly racist, bigoted, hateful, and narrow-minded. The less of them, the better.
more at my blog...
ShouldBeWorking @ 3:
"Yay!" "HaHaHa!" "Die bastids, die!" "Heh!" I came up with those...
Well, FOX is State Sponsored TV~
Fox will simply morph itself into something as despicable when their ratings hit bottom.
There comes a point when even dim-witted Fox viewers begin to suspect that what's good for Wall Street and the Republican Party isn't necessarily good for them.
Better late than never.
*prepares a script for Sean Hannity explaining why Vice President Cheney is not only entitled to drink the blood of children, but why America NEEDS him to drink the blood of children*
You know---just in case.
Hint: The word "terror" is prominently featured.
Besides that---relaaaax. After all, they're only POOR children. Well, most of them anyway.
"Meaning, when the GOP catches a cold, everybody at Fox News gets sick."
Truer words have never been spoken. And the spineless dickless Democrats need to destroy these Republicans once and for all. And bring back balanced media.
Que troll C&P of latest cable ratings in 5....4....3...2...1.....
Whenever I accidentally switch to the Fox News Channel, I yell and quickly change channels as if I just saw a 300lb hairy guy with a pussy.
IF the USA is such a democratic country as we are always told, why is the media as concentrated in the USA as it is in the USSR? Just wondering since the mark of true democracy is free speech. How can there be free speech if one only is fed one line of 'truthiness'?
Their demographic is a seventy five year old dementia patient. As they die off they are not being replaced.
When Faux News gets rid of the pompous assholes who spew bigotry and venom, and get rid of the skanky bleach blondes they might have a shot. Or they will dwindle into dust. Sounds like poetic justice to me!
In about 20 years when Faux has long closed its doors, we will remember this debacle of a channel as how today we remember the 'The Morton Downy Junior Show' or 'WWF'
eewwww.
The dream is over, little thugs. It gets old even to other lizard brains.
Not all of them of course. O'Reilly will be giving them orgasms while screaming at the next prez for at least four years.
DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander @ 5:
Wow, so Rhode Island is just like Idaho!
Left&Left @ 13:
Your eyes were not playing tricks on you, that was actually Bill O'Reilly.
Slippery when all wet.
It appears Fox really is screwed in this election year. It appears McCain is going to be the Republican nominee. They don't even like him nor him them too much. The Democrats snub them as much as possible. It appears they will have severely limited access to candidates. Good on em.
Boycott the superbowl as well, Fox is going to mix sports and political coverage. Desperation to get their pitiful talking points out to the world.
I was actually watching Fox for the debate last night (no intention of staying with them...), and at one point McCain's sound cut out for almost a minute. After about 15 second a voice (Britt Hume?) came
on and said there was a power outage affecting all of Simi Valley and all the networks....so I clicked immediately over to CNN and MSNBC, and no problems there...then back to Fox, still silence, and then basically the same message repeated. Yeah, don't switch to another network....we'll lie to keep you with us, but that's no surprise from Fox.
Left&Left @ 13:
Did you mean Bill Bennett? I saw him on CNN last night, but he wasn't that hairy.
Boehlert's piece is awesome.
I especially like the part where he points out that fox biz channel has lower viewership than some cities community access channels. lol
Ron @ 25:
Sounds like a description of Billo.
Fox News will just adapt.
It will be easy to promote Obama for them.
He's conservative as can be.
He has no plan to get us out of Iraq.
Liberals don't care. They're all aglow.
It's the same emotion as the run-up to the war in Iraq. Frenzied emotion that pushes inconvenient truths aside.
That's why the media promote him.
He will be the new star for Fox and they will continue to make lots of money.
I keep saying it, but Fox News is nothing but a spin off of "Inside Edition" with the 9/11 pizzazz which is wearing off. When you have Mark "Officer N***er Hater" Furman as a Fox News consultant, it makes you wonder.
Y'all are delusional. FOX has always, and will always crush the competition. Here are the facts:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/
Live in your "media matters" lies, but the truth will always prevail.
The fact that McCain is the front runner has the neo-con right wing in panic mode. Watching Billo and his fellow neanderthals freak is going to be entertaining. It's a long time coming.
people are opening their eyes!
McCain/Hillary 2008
Don @ 24:
I saw that also. I do not recall ever thinking, "I'd better go to another channel to check it out", before.
Fox has definitely earned my mis-trust.
Good job Mr. Murdock and Mr. Ailes.
Now, take your "news" channel and rot in hell.
Anthology @ 28:
This foolish approach reeks of pure idiocy! I'd like to see the faux newz show wiggle their way out of calling Barack a muslim, or accidentally calling him "Osama". Sorry Anthology it ain't gonna happen!
BTW - You (sort of) smell like a troll!
2 words: More Cleavage
One word:"Schadenfreude".
Or is that two words?
TheTruth @ 30:
Who had 11:13 am?
TheTruth @ 30:
I was curious, what does squirrel taste like?
TheTruth @ 30:
Orally always talks about MSNBC. If I was trying to convince 4 million people (I'm sure the numbers are much lower now) that the sun was purple today, I sure as hell wouldn't tell them to go outside and look!
He is a dumbass just like the rest of them!
goatsage @ 38:
Squirrel it taste like a tree rat.
Dr. Matt @ 37:
Fox Sux..but in all Fairness, so does the morning BLOW on MSNBC.
TheTruth @ 30:
Yes, the truth will prevail, and when it does, Fox is out of business.
Boycott anything you see advertised on Fox. If you have the time, send the company an email saying why you are boycotting their product.
Money talks.
TheTruth @ 31:
Please detail how media matters "lies". We are waiting.....
Bush the Liar @ 44:
AMEN TO THIS!!!
Dr. Matt @ 45:
Lay some truthiness on us.
I think Keith Olbermann is going to have a real good day.....lol.
Now if we could just get faux turned off in restaurants, hotel lobbies, airports, hospitals, etc., etc., etc.
I've actually seen people try to turn the channel on airport tvs but, of course, they've made it impossible to do so.
Dr. Matt @ 38:
Damn!! Thought it would be sooner!!
I know this is completely off topic, but I just read a pretty interesting article about the US and EU ignoring fixed elections (i.e. Kenya): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7219708.stm
But the best thing about the article is this quote:
"In terms of the United States and this administration... I don't think there's any question about where we stand in terms of promotion of democracy"
Sean McCormack
US State Department spokesman
Just call it the less than 25%ers channel....
There's only one word that describes how I feel.
Schadenfreude: German for taking pleasure in other people's misfortunes.
ConcernedCanuck @ 50:
You know, I clicked on Trolly McTroll's link there, and it was to an article about how Joe Scarecrow, the dead intern guy on MSNBC, was crushing OReallllllllly. And the rebuttal to the 'bad FOX 'News' ' ratings-Bill O'Reallllllllllly. Calling Media Matters smearers.
miss_kitty @ 54:
When will O'Racist step-up and list explicit examples of the MMFA smears?
Dr. Matt @ 55:
Never.
Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie.
By Mike Gaddy
On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast.
On August 18, 2000, a six-person jury was unanimous in its conclusion that Akre was indeed fired for threatening to report the station's pressure to broadcast what jurors decided was "a false, distorted, or slanted" story about the widespread use of growth hormone in dairy cows. The court did not dispute the heart of Akre's claim, that Fox pressured her to broadcast a false story to protect the broadcaster from having to defend the truth in court, as well as suffer the ire of irate advertisers.
Fox argued from the first, and failed on three separate occasions, in front of three different judges, to have the case tossed out on the grounds there is no hard, fast, and written rule against deliberate distortion of the news. The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdock, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves. In its six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals held that the Federal Communications Commission position against news distortion is only a "policy," not a promulgated law, rule, or regulation.
Fox aired a report after the ruling saying it was "totally vindicated" by the verdict.
I should try and catch that fox and friends show some morning and see their frowns. Those idiots were always three glasses of kool-aid over the limit.
(#11) The Media Can Legally Lie
CMW REPORT, Spring 2003
Title: “Court Ruled That Media Can Legally Lie”
Author: Liane Casten
ORGANIC CONSUMER ASSOCIATION, March 7, 2004
Title: "Florida Appeals Court Orders Akre-Wilson Must Pay Trial Costs for $24.3 Billion Fox Television; Couple Warns Journalists of Danger to Free Speech, Whistle Blower Protection"
Author: Al Krebs
Faculty Evaluator: Liz Burch, Ph.D.
Student Researcher: Sara Brunner
In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.
According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997)
Akre and Wilson sued the Fox station and on August 18, 2000, a Florida jury unanimously decided that Akre was wrongfully fired by Fox Television when she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) “a false, distorted or slanted story” about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows. They further maintained that she deserved protection under Florida's whistle blower law. Akre was awarded a $425,000 settlement. Inexplicably, however, the court decided that Steve Wilson, her partner in the case, was ruled not wronged by the same actions taken by FOX.
[Edited]
UPDATE BY LIANE CASTEN: If we needed any more proof that we now live in an upside down world, the saga of Jane Akre, along with her husband, Steve Wilson, could not be more compelling.
Akre and Wilson won the first legal round. Akre was awarded $425,000 in a jury trial with well-crafted arguments for their wrongful termination as whistleblowers. And in the process, they also won the prestigious “Goldman Environmental” prize for their outstanding efforts. However, FOX turned around and appealed the verdict. This time, FOX won; the original verdict was overturned in the Appellate Court of Florida’s Second District. The court implied there was no restriction against distorting the truth. Technically, there was no violation of the news distortion because the FCC’s policy of news distortion does not have the weight of the law. Thus, said the court, Akre-Wilson never qualified as whistleblowers.
What is more appalling are the five major media outlets that filed briefs of Amici Curiae- or friend of FOX – to support FOX’s position: Belo Corporation, Cox Television, Inc., Gannett Co., Inc., Media General Operations, Inc., and Post-Newsweek Stations, Inc. These are major media players! Their statement, “The station argued that it simply wanted to ensure that a news story about a scientific controversy regarding a commercial product was present with fairness and balance, and to ensure that it had a sound defense to any potential defamation claim.”
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Hopefully this trend will continue... this probably means that the viewers are getting old and dying or committing suicide. Ive almost done both watching fox noise...
You guys are psychotic on the left-- wouldn't know the truth if it hit you between the eyes
TheTruth @ 61:
You're imploding. How entertaining.
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What I don't get is why does the left hate success and successful people so much
I love the smell of dying fox news ratings in the morning....Smells like....Victory..heheh D
Interesting that while they are Sliding (and Rupert Murdoch see's a loss of money) Murdoch is starting to say GOOD things about Obama.
An act of Desparation?
Another possible additional reason in Fox's slide can be attributed to it's treatment of Ron Paul.
The Ron Paul Forum's are populated with some 'young conservative's' that have become completely
disillusioned by the media's recent blitzkrieg against Ron. esp. Faux. They have made a new video mocking
Rupert that is pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_sW1yGcIz0
Most of the older, Fox News listeners that I know have grown tired of hearing about politics.
TheTruth @ 63:
Please provide the details and data that provides credence to "left hate success and successful people so much". We are waiting....
[Dr Matt, let's not feed this one, OK? Sitemonitor]
TheTruth @ 63:
LOL
"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!"
Dr. Matt @ 68:
Roger. :)
TheTruth @ 63:
The "left" has no problems with success. The "left" has problems with liars, cheats, corruption and waste.
Really? Man, get your facts straight. What I have seen from all of the TV ratings, Foxnews has been trampling everyone. Where is your proof? Here is mine.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/t...
I guess it's a small bit of progress if Fox viewers are moving to CNN.
But CNN isn't exactly a beacon of journalistic integrity. Consider their lineup:
Glenn Beck (single-digit IQ, just look into his eyes if you can stand to do that)
Campbell Brown (Mrs. Dan Senor, but won't admit it on her CNN bio)
Kyra Phillips (too dumb to make change, so they made here a mid-day news anchor)
John King (uber-wanker and McCain groupie, just ask Glenn Greenwald)
Wolf Blitzer (blank-faced fuzzy little millionaire with no critical thinking skills),
and on and on and on.
Yeah, it's a small bit of progress, I suppose. Too bad they permanently ruined their brand with Glenn Beck.
ConcernedCanuck @ 71:
OOPS...sorry sitemonitor...didn't read yer line there first.
TheTruth@63 Man I hate you, so you must be very successful.....being a total sack of dog shit.
Talcott @ 66:
Thanks, that was pretty funny stuff. I loved Mann Coulter without her wig... LOL
Steve, maybe you know something I don't..but since Rupert bought the Wall Street Journal, Fox News doesn't HAVE to make money...they can lose advertisers, blow chunks of distortion during the campaign, then regroup after the election of '08.
We just have to keep hammering away at Faux News until they are dead and gone. It just takes quite awhile to get through to people. We have to be noisier than the Right.
Jesus, their is a bad side to this! What will my favorite talk show host (Stephine Miller) do for 3 hours?
Richard Ray Harris @ 76:
As I said above
Shiva H Vishnu @ 65:
Couldn't have happened to nicer network...
Fox Sux.
-GSD
"Another possible additional reason in Fox’s slide can be attributed to it’s treatment of Ron Paul."
Yep. I know some regular older "right wing" joes who also didn't look too kindly on Faux's shutting Paul out of their debate.
It DID open up some eyes.
No big deal: It's a Media-Opoly!!!
Acting Patriotic @ 83:
Very Cool...thanks for hipping me to it!
Fox absolutely made its bed and reveled in the work of doing so. The only way they'll change their tune is if someone bought them out, dumped all talent and management, and restarted from zero. But even then, they'd have to change their name and logo to foist off all the baggage. But of course that'll never happen, so, see ya FNC! It sucked knowin' ya! May the door smack your ass raw on the way out!
I am giddy that they are taking it in th shorts now. They deserve every bit of ire sane people can throw at them. Their talents' credibility was bought and paid for, not earned. Nobody ever heard of O'Reilly until someone lost craploads of cash to get his face in front of people. O'Reilly didn't earn that. The same for Shamity. Nobody with 3 brain cells would call that guy credible on anything and themselves be considered credible.
Here's to giving shameless lying and shilling on national TV a good 2-bouncer salute!
Crooks and Liars has been sliding down in the traffic count since Nov 2006.
All of the main stream media news(?) net works suck, it just that Faux Noise sucks
the most. NONE are worthy of attention nor viewing, so if politics is of interest,
about the only TV media outlet worth watching is CSPAN channels.
While I despise Fox just as much as the next intelligent human being, I didn't realize that they were known for their "reporting." I always thought the draw for most of their viewers was their opinion-drive talk shows. So when you talk about a ratings slide are we talking about specific shows (e.g. Hannity & Colmes, O'Reilly, etc) or reporting from their news desk?
heliograph @ 72:
Fox will always be number 0ne because the specialized in one format. The other networks deversify and share the remaining viewers.
In other words, if Bush or the Republicans fucked up something, FOX will not mention it or spin it to look good. Best comedy network around.
Aww....pity. They can all go back to 'A Current Affair' or whatever schlock shit they came from.
I refuse to watch anything with the FOX LOGO on it
If the Dems get the whitehouse and congress, and the country slides to the left abit, Faux news will be hiring hippies and porn stars.
Ah, but you know that they will be back on top once a Democrat becomes President. The right-wingers and the "Independents" will soon flock back to the fatherland.
Susan @ 93:
Faux will go were the money goes. If it goes left, Faux becomes the fair and balanced left of center network. Its all about money.
Left&Left @ 14:
LOL! That's me in a nut shell... Thanks I couldn't have said it better...
Until the last subscription is cancelled, Fox is still a dangerous propaganda network.
POLL: Time For Us To Label Fox?
by Cenk Uygur
Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 07:24:15 PM PDT
Fox calls itself a "news" channel. They labels themselves "fair and balanced."
But tonight, as CrooksandLiars.com shows, Fox continued to smear Daily Kos without shame, calling it a hate site akin to David Duke. After the 2006 elections, Fox reported without an iota of proof that terrorists were cheering for the Democrats. And we all know that Fox reported Barack Obama was schooled in a madrassa. The examples of propaganda go on and on to the point that it becomes maddeningly obvious that the labels Fox gives itself don’t fit.
• Cenk Uygur's diary :: ::
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Simply put, Fox is a Republican mouthpiece masquerading as fair and balanced news outlet. Even their so-called news anchors and reporters are thoroughly opinionated, slanted, and biased.
I will defend Fox’s right to exist to my dying breath. As much as I loathe their programming, I think it is important for a democracy to respect the freedom of speech and encourage different voices. But a little truth in advertising is also essential.
We label our food products, so you know what you’re eating. We label our movies, so you have a sense of their content. Even the Word Wrestling Federation, after many years of pretending the fights were real, finally succumbed to reality and changed their name to World Wrestling Entertainment (a little lawsuit from the World Wildlife Foundation also helped to nudge them in that direction).
We must also honestly label television and radio programming so the public is not misled. The labels Fox gives itself intentionally deceive--so much that some in the news industry and political world still treat Fox as if they are a real news operation with actual journalists.
So enough is enough. If Fox won’t label themselves honestly, it’s time for progressives to start doing it for them. Below is a poll asking whether you think institutions like Yearly Kos, the Democratic National Convention, and Democratic presidential campaigns should fire a shot across the bow by making Fox walk around with "opinion media" credentials instead of the standard "media" credentials given to other media outlets.
There are a lot of other things we can do as well. Continuing to ensure Fox gets no Democratic debates, fact checking them, and holding them accountable for their lies. But as an opening salvo, we can give Fox a choice: If you want to attend Democratic or progressive events, you will do so as "opinion media." Short and sweet.
There’s nothing wrong with opinion media. I work for Air America and we are opinion media. Unlike Fox, we don’t pretend our anchors and hosts are newsmen with no opinion. We never try to deceive the audience into thinking they are receiving neutral news when we are giving our opinion. There is truth in advertising. If we call Fox "opinion media," everyone will be clear on the network’s actual role.
I believe an excellent place to start this process is the Yearly Kos convention. If one convention passes out badges labeling Fox as "opinion media" as opposed to news media, it will encourage others to take this logical step. Eventually, the Democratic presidential campaigns and the Democratic convention in 2008 will follow suit. If Fox resists, they will just bring attention to our point about who they are.
What do you think: Should we label Fox "opinion media"? Tell your opinion below.
The Young Turks
Poll
Should institutions like Yearly Kos, the Democratic National Convention, and Democratic presidential campaigns give Fox "opinion media" credentials instead of the classic media credentials?
Yes
91% 2680 votes
No
9% 252 votes
2932 votes
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/24/221124/993
looks like the Democratic candidates' snub of not appearing on that network is paying off
Hey...the markets will regulate themselves....right? Put out a shitty product and you get shitty profits. Nice.
Murdoch will simply play all sides. He will be go to whoever has the power. I agree to others who have made comments about not supporting anything belonging to Murdoch. I go around progressive blogs each day. Many use My Space, constantly mention The Simpsons, quote some of Murdoch overseas papers and Tv people. Check out what he owns around the world and see how he feeds and influences news in every country.
I have notice if you change key words of Republican statements to the opposite, you get the truth and how they really feel. Fox News = Fox Opinion
i use to watch fox. not because i thought they were a great news gathering organization but because, like a car wreck, it was hard for me not to watch. they're one of the worst examples of propaganda disguised as news since the third reich. now, however, thanks to "newhounds" i can observe their perfidy and bias without having to contribute in any positive way to their ratings. thanks "newshounds".
Fox News is nice to Republicans; as a matter of fact-checking, other news mediums are usually nicer to non-Republicans.
The important difference is that Fox is recognizable as "personally" invested in the protection of Republicans, which is why it is so often that they slip in blatantly false things like graphics that wrongfully categorize politicians on-screen, etc. It isn't mere human error.
Yes, the rest of the media may occasionally demonstrate a bias benefiting the left, but they do not come off as though that is their job. There aren't memos being circulated to frame stories for the benefit of one particular group. Time is capable of issuing a magazine giving a fair overview for McCain just as much as Obama.
It's nice to see more and more people figuring out why it is that there is a concentrated disdain against Fox that can not be equally compared to any other source of "news."
It couldn’t have happened to a more appropriate network.
Or a more inappropriate network, as the case may be. ;)
diamondmc @ 94:
Bingo! The MSM has a profit motive, not a political agenda.
TheTruth @ 63:
You mean like John Edwards? Or George Soros? Or Warren Buffet? Nah, we like all of them.
Sorry about above post, Site monitor. Missed your request.
[There was nothing wrong with your post. The poster who had the deletion was name calling-Sitemonitor]
You know you can fool people but only for so long.
heliograph @ 72:
CNN (Crappy News Network) is just following Fox's lead. Any network that would put on Glenn Beck and Nancy Grace should be boycotted. I just got back from travelling in Asia, and to see Glenn Beck on CNN was just an emberessment to me as an American.
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