I'm disturbed by the reactions that allude to harming this person. The best thing that can be done is to reveal him for what he is. I believe many were successful in eliminating his sponsors several months ago. I would suggest that tactic rather than wishing harm on him.
Well what are his ratings like?I presume his toxic trash garners a reasonably large audience of like minded listeners.There is obviously a subset of people who eagerly wallow in this kind of putrid slop.Additionally it also seems possible(can you say "fascism"?) that he will keep his job no matter what his numbers look like,for purely political reasons.
Perhaps someone, someday, will have the persistence to demand an answer to your question. It seems to me that just one Senator, one time, could read into the Senate record some of Weiner's "choice cuts" of diatribe and that will be that.
Multiculturalism is a word that conservatives use to promote the stillborn notion that America is no longer a melting pot and that White Christian thoughts are the only ones worthy of merit.
I'd rather have a black man from Africa with AIDS living next to me than this waste of space any day of the week.
"Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?"
Probably because it's a (supposedly) Free Country. One of the obvious drawbacks of Freedom of Speech is that there will always be somebody who is saying something you don't like, or don't agree with. Nobody forces you to listen to anything. Live with it.
Hell the whole radio AM broadcast system is hate radio. In Chicago both AM 560, 890 are broadcasting 24x7 for the last twenty years liberal hate. Even though there is no such thing.
From Limbaugh to the Hannity express they feel their end is near. We know if the Democrats get to the presidency the FCC will pull the plug. That with watching television shows like Tucker, or Chris Matthews I’m sick of it all. It all is a cancer in our society, the FCC should flush it all down.
to think that our local number 1 (ahem, scuse me, FORMER local number 1) station blew out a local talk show from 9p-12a that did well and replaced the local guy with this hack, an inflammatory unthinking individual that conservoideologues and am program managers love.
we do have a lot of africans who live in louisville and i'm sure that they aren't happy to have this hatemonger on the airwaves at night. but then again, the station has so declined in stature that i'm not even sure that anyone is even listening anymore.
reasons why media consolidation is bad: clear channel will buy your local stations and turn them into preprogrammed syndicated dreck that a monkey could operate the station. i have said it on the local boards, and i'll say it here: if there were other companies strong enough to challenge clear channel, stations won't sound the same all over and talk show hosts like savage wiener won't be able to grow as fast as they do.
btw, the fairness doctrine does nothing to prevent more michael savage wieners from getting on the air.
Dishonestly make guilt-laden, emotion-powered assertions to stun people, back it up with a bunch of out-of-context points that sound good to the untrained or self-deceptive listener.
Great for establishing and milking your bogus religious/political/medical podiums. Subvert/fry-out thinking in others, they'll support their own oppression.
" Later, Savage stated: "See, we don't live in Africa where people settle arguments with machetes. We live in a country where we settle it with arguments. Something you apparently don't know anything about. ..."
Well no,you insufferable nut-sack,WE live in a country that settles arguments with GUNS,and settles international disputes with BOMBS.
When he says to bring them over with the Machete in their head it sounds like he's alluding that they on a lower 'evolutionary' scale than him and somehow have a different brain capacity than him and they are simple hunter/gatherers that can only use violence to achieve anything.
Plus, he does slip an attack to Gay people in there at the end.
I think getting the advertisers to quit giving these guys money is a good start. My way of dealing with them is by tying them to the GOP.
If ann coulter ever comes up in conversation when I'm in with a group of republicans (which is pretty easy when you work on a military base), I always refer to her as GOP spokeswoman, ann coulter.
Usually, at that point SOMEBODY will throw out a "whoa, hold on." And then I listen very attentively while that republican trashes ann coulter and distances her from the GOP in front of a group of republicans.
I think getting the advertisers to quit giving these guys money is a good start. My way of dealing with them is by tying them to the GOP.
If ann coulter ever comes up in conversation when I'm in with a group of republicans (which is pretty easy when you work on a military base), I always refer to her as GOP spokeswoman, ann coulter.
Usually, at that point SOMEBODY will throw out a "whoa, hold on." And then I listen very attentively while that republican trashes ann coulter and distances her from the GOP in front of a group of republicans.
I think what Wiener wants is some well-oiled love with his Rick Santorum blow-up companion. At the end of his rutting he can pop the thing with a machete and curl up inside the carcass.
In this Dark Age, the focus is on someone who spews hate. Not someone who offers gently good ideas.
Someone who spews hate at Liberals mind you.
I honestly can't imagine a progressive alternative to slugs like Weiner and Limbaugh.
It takes more work to accurately map reality, or to understand that map, than to tear it apart or gulp down emotional assertions.
People are generally lazy until the pressure hits them to change. Hate is easy.
Everyone know what his 8 Million listeners are? TWO PERCENT of the country,(and there is probably a high correlation between this audience and Limpballs, Mann Coulters, etc) mostly poor and ignorant trailer trash, marginal fringes of society like that guy who spent all his time sitting in the broken down car in front of his house listening to right wing talk radio.............or the borderline retarded taxi driver who I engaged to give me a lift home from the Emergency room after crashing my bike last year............actually it occurs to me that the extremist whackjob radio hosts might even be doing us a favor, pushing more "mainstream" conservatives away from the far right.......per Dr. Altermeyer's treatise on authoritarianism, most conservative authoritarian followers actually dislike overt racism, although they are less mindful and have a higher tolerance for injustice than do more independent minded types.
In this Dark Age, the focus is on someone who spews hate. Not someone who offers gently good ideas.
Someone who spews hate at Liberals mind you.
I honestly can't imagine a progressive alternative to slugs like Weiner and Limbaugh.
It takes more work to accurately map reality, or to understand that map, than to tear it apart or gulp down emotional assertions.
People are generally lazy until the pressure hits them to change. Hate is easy.
Hatred of the Left has been lovingly nurtured and encouraged by far right wing interests for about 3 decades now.You are correct in that it is a base emotion that is easily exploited,and requires little thought or effort to perpetuate.
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
He gets a platform because there are a lot of ignorant right-wingers out there who listen to the radio and buy hemorrhoid cream or whatever shit they advertise on Weiner Nation.
He can get away with it because he generates $ for stations that put him on, as he gets the ratings #'s & Air America does not.
That's a sad commentary on our culture that hate speech gets ratings and thoughtful discussion gets nothing. Eventually, America will devolve into a mass of gibbering, hateful, ret*****, violence obsessed idiots that delight in human suffering...oh wait. We're supposed to be civilized people in a civilized country and unlike the our enemies in this "War on Terror" we're fighting.
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
That's a sad commentary on our culture that hate speech gets ratings and thoughtful discussion gets nothing. Eventually, America will devolve into a mass of gibbering, hateful, ret*****, violence obsessed idiots that delight in human suffering...
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
Weiner-Savage is a reich-wing, limo-passenger elitist.
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
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Thanks for clearing that up.I appreciate it,and have no doubt you are sincere.
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
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Meant to mention by the way that I am well aware of sociological factors and so forth.............people have a strong propensity to be as their parents, and parents before them.........tracing all the way back to indentured servitude, warlike Scottish heritage, life in impoverished isolated southern hill...........
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
V V
Meant to mention by the way that I am well aware of sociological factors and so forth.............people have a strong propensity to be as their parents, and parents before them.........tracing all the way back to indentured servitude, warlike Scottish heritage, life in impoverished isolated southern hill...........
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While the Limbaughs of the world would have us believe that people are impoverished simply because they are somehow inferior and lazy.
That they crave and expect "entitlements".That anyone can dig themselves out of poverty and its attendant cycles of malnourishment,addiction,violence and despair if only they simply "apply themselves".Anyone failing this is an obvious loser unfit for decent society.
BTW,Limbaugh himself collected welfare years ago in a time of desperation.Go figure.
For those of you who think that this kind of hate speach does not influence others, I just had an experience today where an idiot was frothing this kind of non-sense to me because he seem to believe I was one of them since I thought Ron Paul had some interesting ideas. This guy came into my house because I wanted to install an appliance in my house. I mentioned the Republic debate last night and how Ron Paul did not get a fair amount of time. The next thing I know, this guy is telling me that the illegal immigrant problem can be solved with mad cow disease and how even the tiger in the San Francisco Zoo hates gays.
As a gay person whose significant other is a naturalized citizen, he obviously did not make the sale. But what stood out to me was, one the wink and knod of I am one of you happened, all of the talk radio trash came spilling out. Talk radio definately had an influence on his thinking.
The reason that the Republicans are going to lose to the Democrats this year is because all they have is hate. It is certainly a sad state of affairs for them as they hate themselves into oblivion.
I aggree with other posters that it is more important that these people reveal who they really are, otherwise they will simply cloak their hate more deeply in something like bible verses.
One last comment, free speech is not truly free if the people we most detest to hear cannot speak. Free speech is for all, even the most loathsome.
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
V V
Meant to mention by the way that I am well aware of sociological factors and so forth.............people have a strong propensity to be as their parents, and parents before them.........tracing all the way back to indentured servitude, warlike Scottish heritage, life in impoverished isolated southern hill...........
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While the Limbaughs of the world would have us believe that people are impoverished simply because they are somehow inferior and lazy.
That they crave and expect "entitlements".That anyone can dig themselves out of poverty and its attendant cycles of malnourishment,addiction,violence and despair if only they simply "apply themselves".Anyone failing this is an obvious loser unfit for decent society.
BTW,Limbaugh himself collected welfare years ago in a time of desperation.Go figure.
Even beyond that there are a lot of ways that simply failing to look and sound like you are from at least the low tier of the middle/working class bars one from opportunities that could break one out of it.....I spent a lot of years waiting tables on my way up, and saw lots of people who couldn't break into even that just keeping your bills paid working stiff world by virtue of being "too ghetto" or "too trashy"....... (there are others designed to keep the middle class out of the upper---legacy Ivy League admissions for example or favoring activities such as polo which only the upper class engages in over say basketball and marching band) and then we have the underdeveloped social systems.........my mother for example doesn't work and would have been available for child care had I reproduced during my poorer years, allowing me to continue working and becoming educated.......conversely, the working poor don't have that luxury......
I believe in defeating the right by turning their own language against them.
I submitted this letter to the USO which shows them I'm a "patriotic" American and not a nut job.
Hello USO,
You guys are doing such a fantastic job for the troops!
I want to say I think you should PLEASE DUMP Michael Savage and his hate rants from all USO sponsored events and shows. Troops have enough stress. Keep them entertained with comedy and music. Forget the hate.
Again, Thank you for such great work!
God bless the USO.
Good, this thread hasn't been hijacked by Savage-bots yet. They seem to do the exact same thing as Ron Paul supporters do; search Google Blogs for any mentioning of their leader, and then attack any thread that dares to oppose him. They're generally much crazier than Ron Paul supporters.
But they haven't found this one yet, so that's good.
I get the feeling that Weiner is laughing his ass off at his stupid listeners when he's off the air. His listeners are sheep and he can manipulate those poor fools any way he chooses.
eventually someone will john Hinkley this ragaholic when he's walking out of a restaurant and the world will be a better place.
That'd be too good for him. Better that he lose his sponsors, lose his ratings, lose his job, and die broke and alone in a $50 a week 5th-floor walk-up in New Jersey.
If you saw a Ku Klux Klan meeting, and you were watching it safely from the side of the road, and someone was being paid "per car" for those who stopped an watched it, would that be any different? It's called a "free market".
Personlly, I find it nauseating so I wouldn't be parked in one of the cars, or caught dead listneing to this asshole.
sav·age
Pronunciation:
\ˈsa-vij\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French salvage, savage, from Late Latin salvaticus, alteration of Latin silvaticus of the woods, wild, from silva wood, forest
Date: 13th century
1 a: not domesticated or under human control : untamed b: lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings : fierce ferocious <a savage criminal>
2: wild uncultivated <seldom have I seen such savage scenery — Douglas Carruthers>
3 a: boorish rude <the savage bad manners of most motorists — M. P. O'Connor> b: malicious
4: lacking complex or advanced culture : uncivilized <a savage country>
TRN is owned by Roy Masters (leader of the Foundation of Human Understanding). When you learn about his history as well as that of his associates (Joseph Farah, David Kupelian, Bob Just), you will know why they love Savage. Roy was even a frequent guest when Matt Drudge had a tv show on FoxNews. Check out some of the articles Roy has written about the evil homosexuals at FHU.com. Savage is nothing compared to Masters' level of hate.
I've always believed that Savage is a big phony. I don't think he even believes half of the things he says. He's making a living because he says outragious things and he knows there is a big market for it.
Savage is a used car salesman. The sad part is that many people who call into his show REALLY DO believe in the things he says.
He could be right about the hunting/cleaning/eating of monkey meat. I've seen a paper that suggested this that dealt with HIV's genetics, all variants trace to a small region where simians there have related viruses and are also hunted out of hunger. Its also not unusual for viruses to infect related phylogenies or jump species barriers as the biomachinery that regulates cell functions are evolutionarily very closely related. This happened recently with the H5N1 bird" flu.
I just listened to that douche bag all of 30 seconds. 31 seconds would've just set me off. How can people really listen to that grating voice, and even consider his hate-ridden demagoguery. How can anybody listen to him, and not want to make him piss in his pants? Yes, he actually provoked some violent thoughts in me. I won't be listening to him anymore. I suggest that nobody else should.
Ugh, I need a shower.
I've always believed that Savage is a big phony. I don't think he even believes half of the things he says. He's making a living because he says outragious things and he knows there is a big market for it.
Savage is a used car salesman. The sad part is that many people who call into his show REALLY DO believe in the things he says.
What a scum-sucking bastardly piece of filth! *shakes head* I will take action on this first thing in the morning.
Oh, and btw, several months ago, a group of men tried to "settle" a family feud with at least one machete, and one baseball bat...right smack dab in the middle of a Bakersfield shopping center. So much for that whole settling things with arguements in this country bit.
no longer a proud american (not verified) — 1/31/08 7:31am
the reason savage lambaugh hannity can do what they do without impunity is because a large portion of middle america is still buying their hate mongering and lies that they hand out on a daily basis. pure and simple, it's about economics, as long as they have a base that listens to them and believes what they have to say, THE SPONSORS will continue to pour their bucks into their shows. do the sponsors care about ethics, do they care that these guys are lying hate mongoring sleeze bags? no, the sponsors are money grabbing "it's all about the ratings" suits. They only care about what they perceive will make them the most money. And in this case with one-toothed wonder middle america and the pseudo intellectuals swallowing the bait, they have generated a large base. to them savage is a god.
In terms of pure professional skill, Michael Savage is one of a handful of elite talents in radio. Only a microscopically small number people in the broadcasting business can speak solo into a radio mic and consistently attract an audience of over 8 million. It is an exceedingly difficult task. Limbaugh, Hannity and Dr Laura are the only others who produce anything remotely close to his ratings. My respect for talent is absolute; it transcends political partisanship.
He truly is...the quintessential embodiment of what took place in Germany in late 1920s....
a modern day fountain of irony & bewilderment...
The only thing more sad & a better example of waste of existence is his listenership and their mindblowingly ignorant/assinine enabling of weiner's/savage's coke habit & lifestyle extravagance
Let's cut the crap and get down to basics. Savage is the face of contemporary America, a nation that has become morally rotten and corrupt, a killer nation hated and despised the world over, the new Soviet Union. Like the lesions that announce the onset of some loathsome disease, Savage is merely one symptom of the sickness that's eating out America's heart.
Cursing Savage is a waste of time; we should be battling the virus that's killing us.
Better question is: "Why do 350 American markets continue to exist that feed this piece of crap?"
Answer: "Because America is still, even at this late date, largely a country full of bigoted, "My God is Better than your God," homophobic morons who have been sold down the river by the Repug thugs they worship. Slaggage-Whiner just acts as their mouthpiece with a microphone."
What a scum-sucking bastardly piece of filth! *shakes head* I will take action on this first thing in the morning.
Oh, and btw, several months ago, a group of men tried to "settle" a family feud with at least one machete, and one baseball bat...right smack dab in the middle of a Bakersfield shopping center. So much for that whole settling things with arguements in this country bit.
Actually, we just use AK-47's and other assault weapons--much more efficient. Thanks NRA--it's the AMERICAN Way...
Figaro@81 Totally agree. Micheal Savage is main stream media and America. I hear this shit all the time on talk radio. It doesn't bother me until some "liberal" jackass gets on the radio declaring racism dead. Anyone who is surprised at Savage is a fucking imbecile.
Just a footnote to my previous claim that America has descended into a hell of corruption:
The noted and well-respected British polling agency ORB (Opinion Research Business) has confirmed that so far we've murdered one million Iraqi civilians thanks to the phony war foisted on us by the degenerate psychopath in the White House. Read the nauseating details at http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/feb2008/orb-f01.shtml
And we're worried about Michael Savage? Hilarious!
Figaro@81 Totally agree. Micheal Savage is main stream media and America. I hear this shit all the time on talk radio. It doesn't bother me until some "liberal" jackass gets on the radio declaring racism dead. Anyone who is surprised at Savage is a fucking imbecile.
the perception is that he's mainstream but that's one of the great republican successes shoved down our throats with their talk radio monopoly and it's uncontested repetition to 50-70MIL people. guys like beck will proclaim their whole audience is for them but you are also counted as part of that audience. but because they are an often coordinated arm of the GOP and are uncontested they have a huge disproportionate effect on this country and what happens in media and congress. that 10-20% that limbaugh and savage really represent have by far the biggest and tallest political soapbox this country has ever seen- roves best tool for selling us this bush disaster- and with a bat that's been practically invisible to liberals, political analysts and media scholars it has given that puny minority the political slugging power of a larger population. unlike the racist screaming hate on his little corner soapbox there's really not a whole we can do without a lot of protesting and boycotting at the local level.
SAVAGE: What do you mean I don't know anything about Africa? Well, what do you know about America?
KOJO: Let me finish --
SAVAGE: Well, no, I'm not gonna let you finish. You made a stupid statement. That's like saying I know nothing about Egypt because I don't live there. What kind of stupidity is that?
Well, I do know that Egypt is in Africa. So there's that.
Anybody who listens to this filth should be ashamed of themselves. The fact that Savage has a large audience pretty much convinces me that America has a LONG way to go.
"Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?"
Probably because it's a (supposedly) Free Country. One of the obvious drawbacks of Freedom of Speech is that there will always be somebody who is saying something you don't like, or don't agree with. Nobody forces you to listen to anything. Live with it.
Oh gee, then I guess we can just sit back and relax! The First Amendment states that Congress cannot prohibit free speech. It doesn't say anything about people protesting a talk show host and its sponsors. Live with it.
What a scum-sucking bastardly piece of filth! *shakes head* I will take action on this first thing in the morning.
Oh, and btw, several months ago, a group of men tried to "settle" a family feud with at least one machete, and one baseball bat...right smack dab in the middle of a Bakersfield shopping center. So much for that whole settling things with arguements in this country bit.
Actually, we just use AK-47's and other assault weapons--much more efficient. Thanks NRA--it's the AMERICAN Way...
i am surprised that assholes like this have not been off'd.
this kind of hatred is totally intolerable.
eventually someone will john Hinkley this ragaholic when he's walking out of a restaurant and the world will be a better place.
well free speech is a reason
but I guess that he is reaching that element with his program ie those who hate
his show is horrible, and he doesn't even let his callers talk
This Wiener rant didn't even make sense.
Why would you want to bring a millions of dead bodies to America?
If Weener would just come out once and for all and quit living the lie, he could probably let go of that rage.
I guess morons need a station to listen to too.
He can get away with it because he generates $ for stations that put him on, as he gets the ratings #'s & Air America does not.
I'm disturbed by the reactions that allude to harming this person. The best thing that can be done is to reveal him for what he is. I believe many were successful in eliminating his sponsors several months ago. I would suggest that tactic rather than wishing harm on him.
Well what are his ratings like?I presume his toxic trash garners a reasonably large audience of like minded listeners.There is obviously a subset of people who eagerly wallow in this kind of putrid slop.Additionally it also seems possible(can you say "fascism"?) that he will keep his job no matter what his numbers look like,for purely political reasons.
Perhaps someone, someday, will have the persistence to demand an answer to your question. It seems to me that just one Senator, one time, could read into the Senate record some of Weiner's "choice cuts" of diatribe and that will be that.
Multiculturalism is a word that conservatives use to promote the stillborn notion that America is no longer a melting pot and that White Christian thoughts are the only ones worthy of merit.
I'd rather have a black man from Africa with AIDS living next to me than this waste of space any day of the week.
"Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?"
Probably because it's a (supposedly) Free Country. One of the obvious drawbacks of Freedom of Speech is that there will always be somebody who is saying something you don't like, or don't agree with. Nobody forces you to listen to anything. Live with it.
Hell the whole radio AM broadcast system is hate radio. In Chicago both AM 560, 890 are broadcasting 24x7 for the last twenty years liberal hate. Even though there is no such thing.
From Limbaugh to the Hannity express they feel their end is near. We know if the Democrats get to the presidency the FCC will pull the plug. That with watching television shows like Tucker, or Chris Matthews I’m sick of it all. It all is a cancer in our society, the FCC should flush it all down.
My god the man has a dead furry animal on his head!
say no more.
to think that our local number 1 (ahem, scuse me, FORMER local number 1) station blew out a local talk show from 9p-12a that did well and replaced the local guy with this hack, an inflammatory unthinking individual that conservoideologues and am program managers love.
we do have a lot of africans who live in louisville and i'm sure that they aren't happy to have this hatemonger on the airwaves at night. but then again, the station has so declined in stature that i'm not even sure that anyone is even listening anymore.
reasons why media consolidation is bad: clear channel will buy your local stations and turn them into preprogrammed syndicated dreck that a monkey could operate the station. i have said it on the local boards, and i'll say it here: if there were other companies strong enough to challenge clear channel, stations won't sound the same all over and talk show hosts like savage wiener won't be able to grow as fast as they do.
btw, the fairness doctrine does nothing to prevent more michael savage wieners from getting on the air.
Dishonestly make guilt-laden, emotion-powered assertions to stun people, back it up with a bunch of out-of-context points that sound good to the untrained or self-deceptive listener.
Great for establishing and milking your bogus religious/political/medical podiums. Subvert/fry-out thinking in others, they'll support their own oppression.
CD @ 4:
I asked myself the same thing. It just proves that he really doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about anymore.
" Later, Savage stated: "See, we don't live in Africa where people settle arguments with machetes. We live in a country where we settle it with arguments. Something you apparently don't know anything about. ..."
Well no,you insufferable nut-sack,WE live in a country that settles arguments with GUNS,and settles international disputes with BOMBS.
When he says to bring them over with the Machete in their head it sounds like he's alluding that they on a lower 'evolutionary' scale than him and somehow have a different brain capacity than him and they are simple hunter/gatherers that can only use violence to achieve anything.
Plus, he does slip an attack to Gay people in there at the end.
You see the ones that still support him. Government.
In this Dark Age, the focus is on someone who spews hate. Not someone who offers gently good ideas.
I think getting the advertisers to quit giving these guys money is a good start. My way of dealing with them is by tying them to the GOP.
If ann coulter ever comes up in conversation when I'm in with a group of republicans (which is pretty easy when you work on a military base), I always refer to her as GOP spokeswoman, ann coulter.
Usually, at that point SOMEBODY will throw out a "whoa, hold on." And then I listen very attentively while that republican trashes ann coulter and distances her from the GOP in front of a group of republicans.
Shame them into admission. It works.
Tim in Japan @ 22:
Yep, white-hat dishonesty, I approve.
VietVet8666 @ 21:
Someone who spews hate at Liberals mind you.
I honestly can't imagine a progressive alternative to slugs like Weiner and Limbaugh.
Why?
Because he makes money, that's why.
Jesus, it's like people just don't get that the bottom line, is the bottom line.
If you don't want stuff like this in a country like America, figure out how to take the profits out of it.
I think what Wiener wants is some well-oiled love with his Rick Santorum blow-up companion. At the end of his rutting he can pop the thing with a machete and curl up inside the carcass.
pinkobait @ 24:
It takes more work to accurately map reality, or to understand that map, than to tear it apart or gulp down emotional assertions.
People are generally lazy until the pressure hits them to change. Hate is easy.
His country? He's not my countryman. Savage needs to visit Africa...he might just get to know a machete better he wants.
This guy's soul left his body a long, long time ago.
Isn't Savage gay though? Why would he say those things?
Everyone know what his 8 Million listeners are? TWO PERCENT of the country,(and there is probably a high correlation between this audience and Limpballs, Mann Coulters, etc) mostly poor and ignorant trailer trash, marginal fringes of society like that guy who spent all his time sitting in the broken down car in front of his house listening to right wing talk radio.............or the borderline retarded taxi driver who I engaged to give me a lift home from the Emergency room after crashing my bike last year............actually it occurs to me that the extremist whackjob radio hosts might even be doing us a favor, pushing more "mainstream" conservatives away from the far right.......per Dr. Altermeyer's treatise on authoritarianism, most conservative authoritarian followers actually dislike overt racism, although they are less mindful and have a higher tolerance for injustice than do more independent minded types.
V V
Brad @ 27:
Hatred of the Left has been lovingly nurtured and encouraged by far right wing interests for about 3 decades now.You are correct in that it is a base emotion that is easily exploited,and requires little thought or effort to perpetuate.
He's makes these shocking statements to get attention. MMfA is playing right into his hands.
31. "poor and ignorant trailer trash"
Careful-don't fall into the trap of stereotyping dude.
I grew up poor and in a trailer.There are myriad social and economic reasons for poverty and destitution.I understand your point,lets just not pull the same shit as the right wing.
He gets a platform because there are a lot of ignorant right-wingers out there who listen to the radio and buy hemorrhoid cream or whatever shit they advertise on Weiner Nation.
Mark @ 7:
That's a sad commentary on our culture that hate speech gets ratings and thoughtful discussion gets nothing. Eventually, America will devolve into a mass of gibbering, hateful, ret*****, violence obsessed idiots that delight in human suffering...oh wait. We're supposed to be civilized people in a civilized country and unlike the our enemies in this "War on Terror" we're fighting.
pinkobait @ 34:
Understood. I believe that I did qualify it with "mostly"..........let me confess by the way that I myself actually fell for it (Limpball flavored) for a couple of years in the early nineties.........despite being from an educated comfortably professional family, although not particularly educated by that time......something that I have happily rectified.
I get that I come off elitist........there are certainly very much certain groups of people who I don't care for (this is stereotypically liberal----weep for humanity but hate people), but be assured that I do have compassion for all flavors of the poor and less educated (and understand how they come by some of their insular viewpoints).........I'm a very big proponent of minimum wage as a living wage....
V V
Blue Buddha @ 17:
Thank God I'm not the only one who thinks Mikey may have a clinical problem.
E_I @ 36:
It's already been spelled out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
(More about simple stupidity than hatred, but the two often go hand-in-hand.)
Don't censor this link please. It's just to counter what Weiner says.
Merck Vaccine Chief Brings HIV/AIDS to America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU
Ooh, he's thuch a thavage.
I think he is a WIDE-STANCE kinda of guy.
Weiner-Savage is a parasite of the diseased consciences of many, draining them and dropping his crap into their overloaded de-crappifiers.
Then his listeners make more problems, burdening the rest of us with their authoritarian leaders, wielding their collective hate-zombie power.
He is like many fake authorities using this short-circuiting short-cut, extracting and thriving through destruction. He's just easier to notice.
pinkobait @ 34:
Weiner-Savage is a reich-wing, limo-passenger elitist.
Vitam Vas @ 37:
Thanks for clearing that up.I appreciate it,and have no doubt you are sincere.
Vitam Vas @ 37:
Meant to mention by the way that I am well aware of sociological factors and so forth.............people have a strong propensity to be as their parents, and parents before them.........tracing all the way back to indentured servitude, warlike Scottish heritage, life in impoverished isolated southern hill...........
V V
Horrible as it is to say, but couldnt Hitler have gassed his parents?
Vitam Vas @ 46:
While the Limbaughs of the world would have us believe that people are impoverished simply because they are somehow inferior and lazy.
That they crave and expect "entitlements".That anyone can dig themselves out of poverty and its attendant cycles of malnourishment,addiction,violence and despair if only they simply "apply themselves".Anyone failing this is an obvious loser unfit for decent society.
BTW,Limbaugh himself collected welfare years ago in a time of desperation.Go figure.
Gee, its hard to believe he's Jewish...
I can't stand this guys mugshot, but I always appreciate the opportunity to "take action" Thanks for the post.
For those of you who think that this kind of hate speach does not influence others, I just had an experience today where an idiot was frothing this kind of non-sense to me because he seem to believe I was one of them since I thought Ron Paul had some interesting ideas. This guy came into my house because I wanted to install an appliance in my house. I mentioned the Republic debate last night and how Ron Paul did not get a fair amount of time. The next thing I know, this guy is telling me that the illegal immigrant problem can be solved with mad cow disease and how even the tiger in the San Francisco Zoo hates gays.
As a gay person whose significant other is a naturalized citizen, he obviously did not make the sale. But what stood out to me was, one the wink and knod of I am one of you happened, all of the talk radio trash came spilling out. Talk radio definately had an influence on his thinking.
The reason that the Republicans are going to lose to the Democrats this year is because all they have is hate. It is certainly a sad state of affairs for them as they hate themselves into oblivion.
I aggree with other posters that it is more important that these people reveal who they really are, otherwise they will simply cloak their hate more deeply in something like bible verses.
One last comment, free speech is not truly free if the people we most detest to hear cannot speak. Free speech is for all, even the most loathsome.
pinkobait @ 48:
Even beyond that there are a lot of ways that simply failing to look and sound like you are from at least the low tier of the middle/working class bars one from opportunities that could break one out of it.....I spent a lot of years waiting tables on my way up, and saw lots of people who couldn't break into even that just keeping your bills paid working stiff world by virtue of being "too ghetto" or "too trashy"....... (there are others designed to keep the middle class out of the upper---legacy Ivy League admissions for example or favoring activities such as polo which only the upper class engages in over say basketball and marching band) and then we have the underdeveloped social systems.........my mother for example doesn't work and would have been available for child care had I reproduced during my poorer years, allowing me to continue working and becoming educated.......conversely, the working poor don't have that luxury......
V V
Some day this man will die and the funeral will be filled with women in red dresses!
I believe in defeating the right by turning their own language against them.
I submitted this letter to the USO which shows them I'm a "patriotic" American and not a nut job.
Hello USO,
You guys are doing such a fantastic job for the troops!
I want to say I think you should PLEASE DUMP Michael Savage and his hate rants from all USO sponsored events and shows. Troops have enough stress. Keep them entertained with comedy and music. Forget the hate.
Again, Thank you for such great work!
God bless the USO.
THIS IS HOW TO TALK TO ADVERTISERS...
Thanks.
I thought that would be purple and pink nazi uniforms.
Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?
Because he is a government operative that is put in place to pacify conservatives and tow the NEOCON agenda. He gets White House talking points.
He's an inteligence asset and he is doing his job well for the powers that be.
Good, this thread hasn't been hijacked by Savage-bots yet. They seem to do the exact same thing as Ron Paul supporters do; search Google Blogs for any mentioning of their leader, and then attack any thread that dares to oppose him. They're generally much crazier than Ron Paul supporters.
But they haven't found this one yet, so that's good.
I get the feeling that Weiner is laughing his ass off at his stupid listeners when he's off the air. His listeners are sheep and he can manipulate those poor fools any way he chooses.
Q. Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?
A. Savage attracts a massive audience of 8 million listeners which advertisers will sacrifice their mothers to Adolf Hitler to reach.
BillT @ 2:
That'd be too good for him. Better that he lose his sponsors, lose his ratings, lose his job, and die broke and alone in a $50 a week 5th-floor walk-up in New Jersey.
Brian @ 30:
You're thinking of this guy.
If you saw a Ku Klux Klan meeting, and you were watching it safely from the side of the road, and someone was being paid "per car" for those who stopped an watched it, would that be any different? It's called a "free market".
Personlly, I find it nauseating so I wouldn't be parked in one of the cars, or caught dead listneing to this asshole.
Per Merriam-Webster
sav·age
Pronunciation:
\ˈsa-vij\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French salvage, savage, from Late Latin salvaticus, alteration of Latin silvaticus of the woods, wild, from silva wood, forest
Date: 13th century
1 a: not domesticated or under human control : untamed b: lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings : fierce ferocious <a savage criminal>
2: wild uncultivated <seldom have I seen such savage scenery — Douglas Carruthers>
3 a: boorish rude <the savage bad manners of most motorists — M. P. O'Connor> b: malicious
4: lacking complex or advanced culture : uncivilized <a savage country>
Does anybody else see the irony?
Ummmmm, cuzzzzz....$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
TRN is owned by Roy Masters (leader of the Foundation of Human Understanding). When you learn about his history as well as that of his associates (Joseph Farah, David Kupelian, Bob Just), you will know why they love Savage. Roy was even a frequent guest when Matt Drudge had a tv show on FoxNews. Check out some of the articles Roy has written about the evil homosexuals at FHU.com. Savage is nothing compared to Masters' level of hate.
The irony is that Weiner is as gay as a peacock!
Michael Weiner is gayer than a barrel of pink monkeys.
I've always believed that Savage is a big phony. I don't think he even believes half of the things he says. He's making a living because he says outragious things and he knows there is a big market for it.
Savage is a used car salesman. The sad part is that many people who call into his show REALLY DO believe in the things he says.
"Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?"
Because it's a money-maker...Hello?
Next stupid question please...
He could be right about the hunting/cleaning/eating of monkey meat. I've seen a paper that suggested this that dealt with HIV's genetics, all variants trace to a small region where simians there have related viruses and are also hunted out of hunger. Its also not unusual for viruses to infect related phylogenies or jump species barriers as the biomachinery that regulates cell functions are evolutionarily very closely related. This happened recently with the H5N1 bird" flu.
whatever happened to just turning the dial?
Michael Weiner is a hateful little maggot. I don't listen to him.
what's the difference between this and what the religious right did to howard stern for years?
I just listened to that douche bag all of 30 seconds. 31 seconds would've just set me off. How can people really listen to that grating voice, and even consider his hate-ridden demagoguery. How can anybody listen to him, and not want to make him piss in his pants? Yes, he actually provoked some violent thoughts in me. I won't be listening to him anymore. I suggest that nobody else should.
Ugh, I need a shower.
Why Does Talk Radio Network Continue to Give Michael Weiner-Savage a 350 Radio Station Platform to Spew Hate?
Is this a trick question?
BECAUSE IT ATTRACTS LISTENERS AND SELLS ADVERTISING. Get it?
Now that wasn't so hard, was it?
The Gates of Hell are waiting for Savage and those like him
Dark Knight DC @ 68:
Think the same is true for (M)ann Coulter, too.
What a scum-sucking bastardly piece of filth! *shakes head* I will take action on this first thing in the morning.
Oh, and btw, several months ago, a group of men tried to "settle" a family feud with at least one machete, and one baseball bat...right smack dab in the middle of a Bakersfield shopping center. So much for that whole settling things with arguements in this country bit.
the reason savage lambaugh hannity can do what they do without impunity is because a large portion of middle america is still buying their hate mongering and lies that they hand out on a daily basis. pure and simple, it's about economics, as long as they have a base that listens to them and believes what they have to say, THE SPONSORS will continue to pour their bucks into their shows. do the sponsors care about ethics, do they care that these guys are lying hate mongoring sleeze bags? no, the sponsors are money grabbing "it's all about the ratings" suits. They only care about what they perceive will make them the most money. And in this case with one-toothed wonder middle america and the pseudo intellectuals swallowing the bait, they have generated a large base. to them savage is a god.
In terms of pure professional skill, Michael Savage is one of a handful of elite talents in radio. Only a microscopically small number people in the broadcasting business can speak solo into a radio mic and consistently attract an audience of over 8 million. It is an exceedingly difficult task. Limbaugh, Hannity and Dr Laura are the only others who produce anything remotely close to his ratings. My respect for talent is absolute; it transcends political partisanship.
What a vile man!
Savage...
David Cole meets Joseph Goebbels
He truly is...the quintessential embodiment of what took place in Germany in late 1920s....
a modern day fountain of irony & bewilderment...
The only thing more sad & a better example of waste of existence is his listenership and their mindblowingly ignorant/assinine enabling of weiner's/savage's coke habit & lifestyle extravagance
Let's cut the crap and get down to basics. Savage is the face of contemporary America, a nation that has become morally rotten and corrupt, a killer nation hated and despised the world over, the new Soviet Union. Like the lesions that announce the onset of some loathsome disease, Savage is merely one symptom of the sickness that's eating out America's heart.
Cursing Savage is a waste of time; we should be battling the virus that's killing us.
Have A good day.
"Why does he have a 350 station platform?"
Better question is: "Why do 350 American markets continue to exist that feed this piece of crap?"
Answer: "Because America is still, even at this late date, largely a country full of bigoted, "My God is Better than your God," homophobic morons who have been sold down the river by the Repug thugs they worship. Slaggage-Whiner just acts as their mouthpiece with a microphone."
Hard to believe that this guy is a botanist...
Annaleigh @ 76:
Actually, we just use AK-47's and other assault weapons--much more efficient. Thanks NRA--it's the AMERICAN Way...
Figaro@81 Totally agree. Micheal Savage is main stream media and America. I hear this shit all the time on talk radio. It doesn't bother me until some "liberal" jackass gets on the radio declaring racism dead. Anyone who is surprised at Savage is a fucking imbecile.
Just a footnote to my previous claim that America has descended into a hell of corruption:
The noted and well-respected British polling agency ORB (Opinion Research Business) has confirmed that so far we've murdered one million Iraqi civilians thanks to the phony war foisted on us by the degenerate psychopath in the White House. Read the nauseating details at http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/feb2008/orb-f01.shtml
And we're worried about Michael Savage? Hilarious!
Left&Left @ 84:
the perception is that he's mainstream but that's one of the great republican successes shoved down our throats with their talk radio monopoly and it's uncontested repetition to 50-70MIL people. guys like beck will proclaim their whole audience is for them but you are also counted as part of that audience. but because they are an often coordinated arm of the GOP and are uncontested they have a huge disproportionate effect on this country and what happens in media and congress. that 10-20% that limbaugh and savage really represent have by far the biggest and tallest political soapbox this country has ever seen- roves best tool for selling us this bush disaster- and with a bat that's been practically invisible to liberals, political analysts and media scholars it has given that puny minority the political slugging power of a larger population. unlike the racist screaming hate on his little corner soapbox there's really not a whole we can do without a lot of protesting and boycotting at the local level.
Because they're a fascist propaganda organ?
Well, I do know that Egypt is in Africa. So there's that.
abob @ 67:
LMAO!!! Michael Weiner is soooo gay, normal, nice, gay folks are like "daaaayum! what a fag!"
HA!
Anybody who listens to this filth should be ashamed of themselves. The fact that Savage has a large audience pretty much convinces me that America has a LONG way to go.
capnmike @ 12:
Oh gee, then I guess we can just sit back and relax! The First Amendment states that Congress cannot prohibit free speech. It doesn't say anything about people protesting a talk show host and its sponsors. Live with it.
Hey, I'm sorry, that has a hilarious rant! I don't always agree with him but Michael Savage is just such an over the top nutcase! The guy's a riot!
Why take such a nutcase seriously? Come on.
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>>>I just listened to that douche bag all of 30 seconds<<<<
the last time I listened to him, he said, "When you hear the word 'liberal', think 'child molester.'"
I shut off the radio and listened to Soft Cell just to get the taste out of my brain.
fastfeat @ 83:
Very true, painfully true! *sigh*
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