Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee appeared on this morning's Meet The Press and proved beyond a doubt that if elected, he would turn this country into a theocracy. Huckabee has gone on record as taking sides with a televangelist over Congressional investigation and this morning he stood firm on his stance.

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Tim Russert pressed Huckabee about his association with Kenneth Copeland, a wealthy, predatory televangelist who is currently refusing to cooperate with an investigation by the U.S. Senate Finance Committee for serious violations, including using his ministry to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Huckabee's campaign. Russert asks Huckabee if he's impeding a federal investigation by saying he sides with Copeland against Congress, to which the Huckster scoffs.

Huckabee claims to be a man of god - a man of the people, but when it comes right down to it, if it means money in his pocket, he sides with a wealthy charlatan who preys on the elderly, the sick and the poor to amass immense wealth and influence. That's not a very Christian thing to do, now is it, Mr. Huckabee? To further deflect from his disgraceful defense of Copeland, Mike takes a cheap shot at MoveOn and says they need to be investigated as well as all non-profit organizations.



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That’s not a very Christian thing to do, now is it, Mr. Huckabee?

And here I thought it was basically the history of Christianity.

MIKE+Give the money to charity like Hillary did.

Mike give the money to charity like Hillaty did

Two words: Elmer Gantry

Mike give the money to charity like Hillary did.

What the big deal? He just pandering to his base. How it different when somebody else does it?

Every church should be audited every single year.

And there should be quotas, tax free status in exchange for public service. I can't stand these self righteous brats.

And how is Obama's anti gay, religious pandering racist church connections any different???????

Good luck. Bush has pretty much made a joke of Senate investigations. Huckster's intransigence is just more proof of how Congress has allowed itself to be unmanned by the right. Until someone steps up and asserts some authority -- like throwing this charlatan's ass in jail -- expect more of the same.

Bottom line: Contempt for Congress trumps contempt of Congress.

Wow, way to go, Mike. Deflect and distract by pointing out other organizations that YOU believe should be investigated for whatever reasons. That's spinning and doesnt' take one iota of anything away from your lack of defense of Copeland and his money-raising for you. It's very clear what Jesus would about this. For when it came to money-lenders he didn't like them at all. And that's in the Bible. Perhaps you're familiar with that book, sir?

MAJeff @ 1:

That’s not a very Christian thing to do, now is it, Mr. Huckabee?

And here I thought it was basically the history of Christianity.

My thoughts exactly. The history of xianity is 'do as I say not as I do'. I feel bad for people not smart enough to see through the crap. You don't need religion to live a good life. And no one needs these holier than thou xian taliban m'f'ers at all.

SHOCKING!!!

Does the repetitions of nasty 'lies and distortions' spun out by paid *extreme Leftist operatives make them feel somehow more empowered?

I hope they’re getting something out of it because they sure as Hell aren’t fooling anybody that has an I.Q. higher than 76… and the scary voters with I.Q.s under 76 are already socialist registered Demorat’s.

*Extreme Leftist= wannabe marxist **socialist.

**Socialist= A Communist that failed to qualify for Party membership.

Definition of a Socialist. A person who prefers being obscured as a small part of a mass movement of losers - rather than risk being individually recognized as an outstanding loser. RGH.

I hope his imaginary friend jesus doesn't watch that interview!

The tax-exempt status for churches should be terminated. Allow them an exemption for any legitimate charities they do.

Organized religion is spreading like pus over this country. It started in the Reagan years, took a break during Clinton, and has resurfaced stronger than ever with the current bush.

His defense is to go on the attack.
Typical.
things are going to get very ugly,very soon.

An ordained christian minister as President of the United States = an Abomination. You either serve God, or you serve your Country. These things are not interchangeable.

I'll agree that Timmy was a little over the top in the way that he went after this guy..

BUT-

Having said that, Timmy's been doing that to Democrats for a long time. I don't mind seeing them take turns.

It is amazing, yet wonderful, just how quickly the evangelicals killed the Republican Party. Not the best of marriages in hindsight now was it Mr. Rove? No, it wasn't . . . but thank you. =)

P.S.

Please consider sending Huckleberry $10 or so. Consider the price of admission to a pretty good show.

ronhohn @ 15:

The tax-exempt status for churches should be terminated. Allow them an exemption for any legitimate charities they do.

Organized religion is spreading like pus over this country. It started in the Reagan years, took a break during Clinton, and has resurfaced stronger than ever with the current bush.

Just had to say . . . I could NOT agree more.

MAJeff @ 1:

That’s not a very Christian thing to do, now is it, Mr. Huckabee?

And here I thought it was basically the history of Christianity.

I think that IS very christian.
Was that a 'dukabee' by hukabee?
Hukabee = doublespeak :(

ALL of the televangelists are heretics and lying sons of bitches.

People like this scumbag and Robertson are worth millions (close to a billion in the latter case). If they truly believed in the deity they say they believe in, they would not be living in mansions, driving in limos, and flying in Lear jets.

Anybody who believes the word of these bastards is willfully stupid and anti-Christ. I think it's about time the citizens of the United States started seriously ridiculing the followers, because THEY enable the heretics, which enables a loon like Huckabee to get worldly attention he doesn't deserve.

I'd like to see these churches taxed so heavily for their charade and thievery that it puts them all out of their GD corporate business.

Why does it seem that all republicans belong in prison?

I don't agree that "Big Timmy" was over the top. Where was the obvious question about Copeland playing fast and loose with his tax-exempt status? These televangelists are nothing so much as gangsters, straight up. It's high time we began addressing them and dealing with them in precisely those terms. And to the extent "The Huck" plays along with Copeland and his ilk, he is nothing so much as one of them...and he should be roundly and relentlessly excoriated for it. No mercy.

Wow, why weren't the words "tax exempt status" brought up during that interview. That's what this is about. It's not that he's raising money, it's that he's promoting a presidential candidate from the pulpit and *then* helping him to raise money.

Scy @ 21:

ronhohn @ 15:

The tax-exempt status for churches should be terminated. Allow them an exemption for any legitimate charities they do.

Organized religion is spreading like pus over this country. It started in the Reagan years, took a break during Clinton, and has resurfaced stronger than ever with the current bush.

Just had to say . . . I could NOT agree more.

Me 2

Huckabee Also Claims He’s Ready to be President From ‘Day Six,’ LITERALLY!

Gee whillikers, he wants all non-profits investigated? Fine, we can start with the Southern Baptists, then the Catholics, then the Episcopalians, then the Pentecostals, etc. etc. etc.

If you want to play the game, you have to pay the entry fee. Tax the churches, and I can almost guarantee they'll shut the fuck up.

Religion sucks , government does too. Good thing you never blend them. Would have yourselves a very discriminating and pretty fucked up country. Oooops.. nevermind

Seems like US Christian zealots have learned from the 'Islamo-fascists" very well, indeed!
Good luck keeping them out of your government.
BTW, we need the same luck here in Canukistan.

We have to remember that Mike Huckabee comes from Arkansas, a state well known for crooked politics. It just seems normal to Mr. Huckabee. And, we should remember that.

Snowball @ 4:

Two words: Elmer Gantry

People have been scammed by "religion" for as long as there's been "religion. Amazing even after countless investigations, books, movies and radio shows that have documented the scum sucking, parasitic nature of these freaks, people keep giving them money. Absolutely amazing and chilling.

He also defended his dog-torturing, dog murdering son. Copeland is in like company.

Chicken Little - NOT!! @ 33:

Snowball @ 4:

Two words: Elmer Gantry

People have been scammed by "religion" for as long as there's been "religion. Amazing even after countless investigations, books, movies and radio shows that have documented the scum sucking, parasitic nature of these freaks, people keep giving them money. Absolutely amazing and chilling.

I think it has more to do with the shrinking quality of public education in your country than it does with awe or temperature...

Two words: ass hole

Huckabee is right, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That's why you have to stop the investigation before it ever gets to a trial.

•It seems Mike is missing the point that Copeland is a TAX FREE ministry organization.
Move-On is not, it is an organization set up to support it's ideological values.

I think old huckleberry just shot himself in the foot on this one. The real question is - Will the MSM give this the coverage it deserves of will they bury it in the back pages.

My guess is they will not give it coverage. But we had better throw some water on this smoldering pile of crap before it turns into a raging fire.

By the way, do you suppose the the Republican party is trying to cut off the Huckster money supply. Sort of a late term political abortion. If so let me be the first to express glee. They may finally find a use for the constitution after all.

Encouraging the televangelist Kenneth Copeland to defy a Senate investigation is #21 on the list of:
"30 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."

Peter G @ 37:

Huckabee is right, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That's why you have to stop the investigation before it ever gets to a trial.

Now Pete, that just makes no friggin sense at all.

The Wanderer @ 29:

Gee whillikers, he wants all non-profits investigated? Fine, we can start with the Southern Baptists, then the Catholics, then the Episcopalians, then the Pentecostals, etc. etc. etc.

If you want to play the game, you have to pay the entry fee. Tax the churches, and I can almost guarantee they'll shut the fuck up.

Couldn't agree with that sentiment more.

The sad thing is that the press loves him because he is the last comic standing. People vote for this man. Can someone explain that?

If there was a god, Huckabee would have been struck dead long ago

Baldwin Huey @ 44:

If there was a god, Huckabee would have been struck dead long ago

amen .. lol

This is one of the many reasons i'm having a crisis of faith now.

bill w @ 27:

Scy @ 21:

ronhohn @ 15:

The tax-exempt status for churches should be terminated. Allow them an exemption for any legitimate charities they do.

Organized religion is spreading like pus over this country. It started in the Reagan years, took a break during Clinton, and has resurfaced stronger than ever with the current bush.

Just had to say . . . I could NOT agree more.

Me 2

Me 3

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Huckabuck is just another maniacal, ego-driven, Dominionist piece of crap. He's emassing a fortune and making a name for himself so he can be another televangelist, robbing the weak-minded simpletons for a living. I hold his kind in utter contempt and I have no sympathy for those who give him their money.

mudshark @ 47:

bill w @ 27:

Scy @ 21:

ronhohn @ 15:
Me Four or Five

Just had to say . . . I could NOT agree more.

Me 2

Me 3

Bangkok Bob @ 41:

Peter G @ 37:

Huckabee is right, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That's why you have to stop the investigation before it ever gets to a trial.

Now Pete, that just makes no friggin sense at all.

If you're Huckabee, it makes perfect sense.

Is it any surprise Hucklebee won Kansas?

The whole Televangelist pack are anything but Christian! How often do any of these frauds refer to Jesus? No one who doesn't follow the Gospel message of Jesus can claim to be a Christian. Most of the evangelical group are wedded to the Old Testament not to the Gospels. So no matter what they call themselves, or proclaim themselves to be, they are not Christians. They are frauds preying on the weak and the ignorant, including those in the media!

Bangkok Bob @ 41:

Peter G @ 37:

Huckabee is right, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That's why you have to stop the investigation before it ever gets to a trial.

Now Pete, that just makes no friggin sense at all.

Really? All this time I've been watching the Bush Administration stall and stonewall investigations with an admittedly compliant congress. Destroy documents, deny subpoenas, delay and obfuscate and then crow publicly that no evidence of wrongdoing was found. It's the Republican way of life. But then I detect a very apt sarcasm in your reply. Am I right?

President PNACcio @ 53:

Is it any surprise Hucklebee won Kansas?

Isn't Kansas supposed to be the most backward State in the Country? They must be so proud!!

Grassley's investigation is narrow in scope: Is Copeland, along with the five other televangelists in Grassley's sights, abusing tax law to fund and furnish a lavish personal lifestyle by siphoning off tax-exempt donations from his followers? Would Grassley, a Republican, have ever brought this to the Senate floor if he didn't suspect Copeland et. al. of being crass law-breakers in this respect? Of course not.

So this does indeed tell us a lot about Huckabee. Copeland's lining Huck's campaign with $$$$$$; Huck defends Copeland with "...innocent until proven guilty", Copeland gives the literal finger to Grassley, Huck's giving the finger to Congress and the rule of law. And that's "family values" for ya!

John the Elder @ 54:

The whole Televangelist pack are anything but Christian! How often do any of these frauds refer to Jesus? No one who doesn't follow the Gospel message of Jesus can claim to be a Christian. Most of the evangelical group are wedded to the Old Testament not to the Gospels. So no matter what they call themselves, or proclaim themselves to be, they are not Christians. They are frauds preying on the weak and the ignorant, including those in the media!

Well, the old testament comes in very handy to instill fear, and all they need from the new testament is the fact that all they need to do is "accept Jesus"

It is pretty convenient, the fact that droves of morons buy all this shit leads me to believe that religion must be an inherent evolutionary process of control.

They went after - and got - Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye, why not the rest of them?

"On December 5, 1988 he was charged with having illegally diverted millions of dollars from the PTL ministry for his own personal use. It was revealed that the Bakkers owned a 10,226-square-foot condo in Florida (which he called a "parsonage" with $60,000 in gold fixtures, not to mention the his-and-hers Rolls Royces."

I've always considered myself a perceptive judge of character. I've never, ever seen anything good about Dubya. He looks like a crazy SOB and he looked like a crazy SOB to me back in 2000. I could say much the same for a number of other current politicians that many people still claim are "down to earth" and "reasonable".

That's why Huckabee scares me. The couple clips I've seen, including the Colbert appearance that recently scrolled off below, I just find him so easy-going, personable and rational for a crazy evangelical theocrat. That a load of heavy ammunition for a politician to have at his disposal.

In a happy universe, maybe I'm the only one in the country who reacts wrong and sees him as charismatic in a working class JC Penny suit George Wallace sort of way?

The Dude @ 58:

John the Elder @ 54:

The whole Televangelist pack are anything but Christian! How often do any of these frauds refer to Jesus? No one who doesn't follow the Gospel message of Jesus can claim to be a Christian. Most of the evangelical group are wedded to the Old Testament not to the Gospels. So no matter what they call themselves, or proclaim themselves to be, they are not Christians. They are frauds preying on the weak and the ignorant, including those in the media!

Well, the old testament comes in very handy to instill fear, and all they need from the new testament is the fact that all they need to do is "accept Jesus"

It is pretty convenient, the fact that droves of morons buy all this shit leads me to believe that religion must be

an inherent evolutionary process of control.

..............well put.

What a smoooooothe-talkin' flim-flam man this Hucksterble-character is. This gives us a little insight in to how a candidate is using his evangelical constituency to pay for the misrepresentation of exactly who he is to the rest of the electorate. Pay attention, Repubs. You might just get what you're bargaining for.

AllYourBaseIs? @ 13:

Does the repetitions of nasty 'lies and distortions' spun out by paid *extreme Leftist operatives make them feel somehow more empowered?

I hope they’re getting something out of it because they sure as Hell aren’t fooling anybody that has an I.Q. higher than 76… and the scary voters with I.Q.s under 76 are already socialist registered Demorat’s.

*Extreme Leftist= wannabe marxist **socialist.

**Socialist= A Communist that failed to qualify for Party membership.

Definition of a Socialist. A person who prefers being obscured as a small part of a mass movement of losers - rather than risk being individually recognized as an outstanding loser. RGH.

you're forty years late. go back to your bomb shelter or the Russkies will getcha.

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Up-Chuckabee, the Baptist Preacher wannabee who brags about how many people he sent to death, defends another EVILgelical s wicked ways.

Just part of the flock... NO?

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AllYourBaseIs? @ 13:

Does the repetitions of nasty 'lies and distortions' spun out by paid *extreme Leftist operatives make them feel somehow more empowered?

I hope they’re getting something out of it because they sure as Hell aren’t fooling anybody that has an I.Q. higher than 76… and the scary voters with I.Q.s under 76 are already socialist registered Demorat’s.

*Extreme Leftist= wannabe marxist **socialist.

**Socialist= A Communist that failed to qualify for Party membership.

Definition of a Socialist. A person who prefers being obscured as a small part of a mass movement of losers - rather than risk being individually recognized as an outstanding loser. RGH.

And your point is...?

I could take your example and use it on you and highlight you fascist tendencies.
And we all know who won that war with the fascist... NO?

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AllYourBaseIs? @ 13:

Does the repetitions of nasty 'lies and distortions' spun out by paid *extreme Leftist operatives make them feel somehow more empowered?

I hope they’re getting something out of it because they sure as Hell aren’t fooling anybody that has an I.Q. higher than 76… and the scary voters with I.Q.s under 76 are already socialist registered Demorat’s.

Wow, that's a pretty pitiful attempt at reversing the facts to support your fascist agenda there, allyourbasals.

Of course, as supported by EVERY study done on the subject, the FACT is that Democrats have far higher IQs than Rethugs...and further, regular Fox News viewers are much better informed on current events than non-foxers.

Nice try, but back to the drawing board, buddy.

Here's what Thomas Jerrerson had to say about "religious leaders":

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

Huckabee equates Moveon with Televangelism?

No need for the Constitution, after all it is the Bible plagerized per Huckabee.

The Bible doesn't get Amended like the Constitution so therefore in the Bible of owning slaves vs the Constituion that was amended to abolish slavery. Huck really has a puzzling situation if he was in fact voted president.

How does Huckabee get sworn in on inauguration day with hand on the Bible and swearing to defend the Constitution?

Can someone ask for Huck or Norris to explain how that will work?

I would think for Huck the Bible supercedes the Constitution. Therefore Mormons, Atheists alike will then be not only one third human, but enemy combatants to be tortured into submitting to their self gradizing egoed faith of personal profit and power. It was tried in the inquisition with some success. later reattemoted by Hitler with superior race and He made some headway. Will this be the next phase?

Jimmy Swaggart/Jim Jones ticket for President?

When I was a kid - yes, long time ago - I was told that the ministry, the parsons, preachers, priests or whatever are the result of a 'calling' from god himself.
When has god started dynasties? Or is it that the offspring see the wonderful easy, opulent life they were born into and decide to stay involved.

Look at the Grahams. Billy, Franklin and his sister Anne Lotz. I have no idea of any more, but am sure that the dynasty will continue. All Franklin Graham really needed was to memorize this phrase, and you will always hear him say it: "that god so loveth the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believeth in him shall not perish but have forever lasting life"

Lotz's story goes something like: "God could have stopped 9/11, but he chose not to" [3/28/06 - H&C]

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

It's not the photo. Copeland looks creepy on TV, too. Let's face it, the guy looks exactly like what he is, a snake.

Conventional theology teaches one has to attend church otherwise prayer in your own home would be sufficient; and, participate in certain sacrements.

How do you do any of that watching a TV show?

Alot of these televangelists have no seminary training at all. I know Joel Osteen doesn't.

Kenneth Copeland does not work for Christ, or even for God. He works for the other side.

There are recordings of him revealing this in Toronto.

There's a link to an audio sound page at the bottom which is frightening.

After seeing Katie Curic's new piece I could not help but think of Metallica's Old Song

The lyrics fit him so well.

Kenneth Copeland looks like a less attractive version of Jack Palance.

MargeAggedon @ 11:

My thoughts exactly. The history of xianity is 'do as I say not as I do'. I feel bad for people not smart enough to see through the crap. You don't need religion to live a good life. And no one needs these holier than thou xian taliban m'f'ers at all.

That's some interesting commentary, especially in light of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which forbids discrimination on the basis of an individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

This repulsive arsehole Copeland infests the small hours of Australian TV, together with others of his ilk like the execrable Benny Hinn. Their hogwash doesn't quite get the same traction on this side of the Pacific, but it's enough to winkle some cash out of the sick, old and gullible.

How much joy it would bring in heaven and on earth to see these mountebanks brought low.

Televangelist gangsters like Copeland, the Crouches, Creflo Dollar, etal notwithstanding, I'd still like to see The Huckster stay in the race. It's like "The Full Employment Act for Comedians". Kidding aside, I hope Grassley doesn't wimp out, but actually uses the full powers of his office to call these criminals into account. What a show that would be!

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:24

Wow, a Christian politician who's a hypocrite. You don't see that very often...

Oh, come on! When are people going to stop making his religion an issue. Oh wait, he's the one that does it. The latest one I heard, regarding McCain's apparently insurmountable lead: he "majored in miracles, not math." (But he isn't making his religion an issue.) I agree it's better if HuKKThin stays in because, unlike Mitt's claim in his a$$ saving withdrawal, the Repugs are not all making nice with St John McAngst.

A guy like that could give Christianity a bad name.

"The God I know isn't short of cash, Mister" from Bullet the Blue Sky by U2

These bad boys have been working on taking America down from the inside for a very long, long time and they are getting closer thanks to W and others... waaay too close. They attack every public activity from schools to broadcast and print media. They infiltrate our Government with Regent University trained God-bots and attempt to usurp the Will of the People. The time to Stop all this BS is well past as our very "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness" is under attack from an Enemy within.

Hypocrisy, how do I love thee? Keep talking Huck and you are sure to keep people from the faith and let the people keep their money for themselves

AllYourBasels@13: I see the word must have gotten out to all the wingnuts that C&L was running this post. They dropped in and layed down the insults, then ran away.

The sad part of this Huckabee/Copeland thing is that the religious non-profits have been doing this for years. I always wondered why gay marriage wasn't a huge stump campaign issue for W in 2004. Didn't have to be. Rove & company had all the pastors of the fundamentalist churches giving sermons about this and abortion and turning out the vote.

Huckabee doesn't even know the difference between and non-profit organization and a tax-exempt. If the churches want to keep their tax-exempt status, the need to take a stab at staying out of politics. You can't be as bald-faced with it as Copeland.

Intrepid @ 72:

After seeing Katie Curic's new piece I could not help but think of Metallica's Old Song

The lyrics fit him so well.

Wow, that is the exact same song that comes to my mind when this topic comes up!

Let's get to the bottom line. The longer this creepy freak Huckabee stays in the race, the better for Dems like myself to have a happy 2008 election result.

So, go get'em, Huck, you frigging hick. The more you strut on the stage the more money McCain and his ilk will have to WASTE.

MargeAggedon @ 11:

MAJeff @ 1:

That’s not a very Christian thing to do, now is it, Mr. Huckabee?

And here I thought it was basically the history of Christianity.

My thoughts exactly. The history of xianity is 'do as I say not as I do'. I feel bad for people not smart enough to see through the crap. You don't need religion to live a good life. And no one needs these holier than thou xian taliban m'f'ers at all.

I second and third that.

Must be getting old? Was it Lewis Stevenson who said "when fascism comes to America it will be draped in the flag and caring a cross"?

Funny thing is I was just talking with some co-workers a while back about the easiest way to make money in this country....start a "church".

Huckabee shows is true colors with "Are we going to start going after Moveon.org"? I think we know who Huckabee would go after if he had half a chance with a statement like that...and it wouldn't be fellow Christo-fascist charlatan crook Kennith Copeland!

I'd love for him to be elected. I wouldn't have to travel so far to see my American friends. In fact, they'd probably be living in my basement (which is quite nice and very reasonable priced ;) )

huck's line of thinking that a woman must submit to her husband begs the question of is he a sexist
huck's line of thinking that the state must submit to the church besg the question of is he a rexist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexism

The ideology of Rexism called for the moral renewal of [the then ]Belgian society in conformity with the teachings of the Church, by forming a corporatist society, and abolishing democracy

Huckabee is not my choice.

But he is so much more intelligent than Russert.

He would be a far more formidable opponent than McCain - who is a dope.

Robt @ 68:

Huckabee equates Moveon with Televangelism?

What I think Huckabee is saying is that these non-profits are either entitled to endorse and raise money for
candidates or they are not. MoveOn is supporting Obama. Copeland is supporting Huckabee.

Personally, I think they both should have their tax exemptions removed.
I don't want to pay for either of their activities.

Kenneth Copeland does not work for Christ, or even for God. He works for the other side.

You got that right. Copeland is a real prick.

As long I live I will never understand the ignorance or naiveness of people when it comes to giving money to the crooks like in the words of C&L

Huckabee claims to be a man of god - a man of the people, but when it comes right down to it, if it means money in his pocket, he sides with a wealthy charlatan who preys on the elderly, the sick and the poor to amass immense wealth and influence.

How anyone in their right mind would give their money to some of the wealthiest people in America. So many people are afraid of not getting into heaven if they don't pay with cash on earth. Absolute craziness.

People like Huckabee scare the living shit out of me.

Suckabee.....can suck me....

In his support of Copeland, Huckabee -- an evangelical Christian who believes in Biblical literalism -- is apparently suffering from a strangely selective (and remarkably convenient) form of amnesia with regard to Matthew 6:24 in which Jesus of Nazareth very clearly states:

YOU CANNOT WORSHIP BOTH GOD AND MAMMON.

Odd, that...especially considering that many people like Huckabee make it a mission to commit the Bible (and always the King James version, in which direct quotes from Jesus are often printed in red ink in order to give them emphasis) to memory so that they are able to quote chapter and verse at the slightest provocation. Sadly, this doesn't often seem to help them truly understand it any more than a talking parrot taught to do the same would.

Mike @ 96:

Kenneth Copeland does not work for Christ, or even for God. He works for the other side.

You got that right. Copeland is a real prick.

My experience has been that Televangelist talk a good game but rarely act Christian.

Wow this huckabee is a dangerous fellow. We had better take him down however we can. Mitt Romney is a Mormon isn't that wonderful.. Obama is God knows what, but Huckabee is a baptist Lord help us Baptist are the worst sort of people. But the goverment is good , the Baptist are bad. Lord save us from the baptist.

Chicken Little - NOT!! @ 33:

Snowball @ 4:

Two words: Elmer Gantry

People have been scammed by "religion" for as long as there's been "religion. Amazing even after countless investigations, books, movies and radio shows that have documented the scum sucking, parasitic nature of these freaks, people keep giving them money. Absolutely amazing and chilling.

Never has been a shortage of stupid people. Today, that number is around 27%.

AllYourBaseIs? @ 13:

Does the repetitions of nasty 'lies and distortions' spun out by paid *extreme Leftist operatives make them feel somehow more empowered?

I hope they’re getting something out of it because they sure as Hell aren’t fooling anybody that has an I.Q. higher than 76… and the scary voters with I.Q.s under 76 are already socialist registered Demorat’s.

*Extreme Leftist= wannabe marxist **socialist.

**Socialist= A Communist that failed to qualify for Party membership.

Definition of a Socialist. A person who prefers being obscured as a small part of a mass movement of losers - rather than risk being individually recognized as an outstanding loser. RGH.

The book 1984 would be a good read for you. But unfortunately, it would probably just go over your head.

But keep an eye out for them socialists losers who are sucking all the money out of the tax-payers: Haliburton, Exxon, Big Pharma, Health Industry, and any other Bush/Republican welfare queen corporations you can think of.

AngryOne @ 40:

Encouraging the televangelist Kenneth Copeland to defy a Senate investigation is #21 on the list of:
"30 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."

It is the patriotic duty of Copeland (and every American) to defy Senate investigations until they throw Harriet Meiers and Karl Rove in jail for their congressional defiance. They are no better than Copeland or any other American. The law either exists for everyone, or no-one. Stick that up your arse spin-less Senate dems!

Canuknotusa @ 35:

Chicken Little - NOT!! @ 33:

Snowball @ 4:

Two words: Elmer Gantry

People have been scammed by "religion" for as long as there's been "religion. Amazing even after countless investigations, books, movies and radio shows that have documented the scum sucking, parasitic nature of these freaks, people keep giving them money. Absolutely amazing and chilling.

I think it has more to do with the shrinking quality of public education in your country than it does with awe or temperature...

Refer to comment # 13 for proof.

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

fastfeat @ 106:

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

I physically recoiled when this page came up and I saw the picture of this Copeland creature. My goodness, what an evil-looking man! He reminds me of Tom Delay - beady eyes, hideously ugly pig face. (I just looked again and he looks even worse than I thought.)

What kind of person would actually send money to someone who looks like a guy on MSNBC's Lockup? I mean seriously, the guy looks like a hardened criminal.

I have found that the meanness, bitterness, and hate inside these awful right-wing monsters eventually shows up in their faces. Look how ugly they all are! Inside and out.

Mark in Ohio @ 107:

fastfeat @ 106:

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

I physically recoiled when this page came up and I saw the picture of this Copeland creature. My goodness, what an evil-looking man! He reminds me of Tom Delay - beady eyes, hideously ugly pig face. (I just looked again and he looks even worse than I thought.)

What kind of person would actually send money to someone who looks like a guy on MSNBC's Lockup? I mean seriously, the guy looks like a hardened criminal.

I have found that the meanness, bitterness, and hate inside these awful right-wing monsters eventually shows up in their faces. Look how ugly they all are! Inside and out.

Sadly, my mother, who recently remarried a "born again" (after the relatively recent death of my father), was cutting checks (of my dad's hard-earned money, my family's future inheritence) to Copeland and Bennie Hinn, at the insistence of the new husband as recently as a few weeks ago! I sent her a clip (CBS Evening News?) from here at C&L showing what their "tithing" is buying, and she stopped. Now, I want my money back!!

Thank you C&L!!!

Televangelists - scam artists.

fastfeat @ 106:

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

Interesting double entendre in that scratch is a common slang term for pocket change, and Ol' Scratch is an olde New England euphemism for the devil.

All christians are nuts, loosers, liars, cons, ass-holes, jerk-offs etc. etc. etc. Prove me wrong if you disagree...

Proove, that is...

er, it realy is prove!

ysbaddaden @ 110:

fastfeat @ 106:

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

Interesting double entendre in that scratch is a common slang term for pocket change, and Ol' Scratch is an olde New England euphemism for the devil.

Good to know my subconscious is working while my conscious struggles to put two words together (7+ years of hard drinking has taken its toll...)

Thanks for expanding my old (New) English vocabulary.

Ken.

There's no doubt, ES EL DIABLO...
Mark in Ohio @ 107:

fastfeat @ 106:

Shared Humanity @ 48:

Is it just me or does that photo of Copeland look really creepy?

Helps to scare the scratch out of the pockets of the sheeple.

I physically recoiled when this page came up and I saw the picture of this Copeland creature. My goodness, what an evil-looking man! He reminds me of Tom Delay - beady eyes, hideously ugly pig face. (I just looked again and he looks even worse than I thought.)

What kind of person would actually send money to someone who looks like a guy on MSNBC's Lockup? I mean seriously, the guy looks like a hardened criminal.

I have found that the meanness, bitterness, and hate inside these awful right-wing monsters eventually shows up in their faces. Look how ugly they all are! Inside and out.

La-dee-dah, another Republican that won't take responsibility for the acts that they encourage others to do and that they benefit from?

This man wants to change the constitution to be more like the Bible. He wants to interfere with our Freedom of Speech (what's left of it). He is a dangerous man and if you read about his governorship you will find he was a CROOK.
He has a good (fake) personality though.
I am banking that there are more reasoning adults in this country than there are fundamentalists.

I’ve been there, that’s why I am here.
Exactly who does have a right to question Copeland about where the money goes? Copeland put on a exhalent performance at his latest ministers conference, visible at http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips , in which has now gotten the attention of people all across the USA, and abroad. If I didn’t personally know better, one would actually think he cares about the protection of all his followers (partners),that pour money into his ministry. Requesting a summery of my mothers (Bonnie Parker) contributions, a long time partner of KCM, we like Grassley got little or no response. (Request viewable at http://sis359.blogspot.com/ ). If their partners aren’t entitled to this privileged information, even though they are funding this lavish lifestyle KCM has grown very accustom to, nor is the Senate entitled either, then who is? The IRS perhaps? Are the teachings of the Prosperity Gospel message being misconstrued? Do we, any of us, have a valid argument, or the right to ask for these records ? I believe with all my heart, we should let the ones affected most by this money making scam have a say in determining the answer to those questions..
“ I had a home“, “I had a life“, “I had faith“, “I had a family“, “I lost a loved one“, “I have no clue what the truth is anymore!” “I will never trust any form of religion.” these are merely a handful of endless testimonies coming to light nationwide. Ranging from all walks of life, their heartbreaking testimonies can be found throughout the web, yet inconceivably, victims are being labeled as fools, ignorant, and basically downright blind for not seeing the truth behind the Prosperity Gospels falsehoods. ” Being only human, our quest for health and wealth, regrettably does lead some in the wrong direction. Promises and guaranties, made by the Prosperity Gospel ministers, give people that have not obtained these blessings on their own, a second chance at achieving their goals in life. An important discovery I made while reviewing testimonies, revealed the fact numerous victims had very little knowledge of the Prosperity Gospels dark side. These unfortunate victims, appear to be equipped with only a small portion of the web of deceit these ministers weave . Picture yourself being raised in a small country town, with a population of only a few hundred, the closest city, only a population of only a few thousand. Computers, internet, cable, satellite TV, and other high tech gadgets are not needed or desired. You are living a simple , solemn life you wouldn’t trade for any amount of cash. After your working day is done, you gladly remove your shoes, kick back in your easy chair, and relax without a care in the world for a while. After flipping on the TV to view the local evening news broadcast, you are reminded to give thanks that you don’t have the worries that accompany life outside the safe haven of your home, and your community. Religion is your safeguard, your faith is strong, and you have no doubts about the truth behind your sacred beliefs. This was my life, before KCM.
Prosperity Gospel ministers enter the homes of many victims though a thirty minute Sunday morning worship service on a local broadcast station. Growing up in Jigger La., truly located in the middle of nowhere, I can testify to the fact that we only received on a clear day about three or four channels at most. Warnings of dangers associated with Prosperity Gospel ministries, made by critics, ministers, and victims go unheard, therefore tragically for many, when the realization of this scam is discovered it is already to late. Family’s have lost their homes, lifesavings, and some even their lives due to the Prosperity Gospels misleading doctrines. Unfortunately my mother was not one of the lucky ones, her confidence, and faith in this false Gospel, ultimately cost her, her life. After more than a decade of programming her mind to believe and think the Prosperity Gospel way of life, she lost her battle with cancer. By refusing medical attention, she sealed her fate, but the programming she had acquired from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland proved strong all the way to her last breath. A diary she left behind revealed the horrific tale of her life from 1992-2002, the top of each page titled with Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, or BVOV. Some mistakes in life we can not undo, and good intentions don’t always go as planed, these victims are simply following misleading promises of health and wealth. The use of miraculous healing confessions, and newly found wealth testimonies, are their sales pitch, sadly my mom among many other are proof that their sale pitch works. The possibility these Mega churches were misusing finances for personal luxuries is what brought this scam to the publics attention, not the loss of life, the financially bankrupt, and numerous homeless victims they have been left in the wake of this devastating hoax. So, do we continue blaming the victims, or do we stand up beside them, learn from there mistakes, and put an end to these senseless tragedies? Even I being a victims daughter have many lingering questions, such as follows, “How is it that some see the truth, and others do not?” ” What leads these victim to believe the unbelievable?” “ Are some more vulnerable to these sort of money making scams than others When all is said and done, perhaps they will be tagged, not as the Prosperity Gospel, but the false gospel. One Quote from Copelands mouth should erases any doubts of KCM innocence,
“It’s not yours, it’s God’s and you’re not going to get it and that’s something I’ll go to prison over. So, just get over it!”

The family of Bonnie Parker
E-MAIL sis359@gmail.com

Photo, before and after KCM,
http://picasaweb.google.com/sis359/BonnieParkerDiaryPhoto
Documentary Suffer The Children, exposes televangelists lavish lifestyles ,
http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/suffer-children
Book recently published by Sara Posner, also looks into these subjects,
http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Profits-Republican-Crusade-Values/dp/0979482216

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