February 18, 2008 10:30 PM
Tonight's Primary Watch: Obama Wins!
Here is our tracker for tonight: Congratulations to Obama for the win!
[election 81]
Democratic delegates up for grab:
WI - 64
HI - 17
If you want to keep up on the Washington primaries, you can do so here. This race is binding for the Republicans only.
John Amato: Just watched Hillary's new ad. Matthews attacked it, I thought it was pretty good.



SUPERDELEGATE COUNT (as of 1:20 pm, Feb. 19)
Clinton 257
Obama 185
According to MSNBC.........hmmmmmmmmmmm
Prediction: Obama will win both. I kind of miss the races being really tight. Fun. Ah well, better go find something to watch on TV.
Who's counting the poached delegates?
Rico @ 3:
"Would you like superdelegates with that Big Mac, sir?"
I voted today in Wisconsin and I believe we're going to exceed 40% turnout which may be the biggest this primary season.
I live in downtown Milwaukee so it's hard to get a read on which way Wisconsin will go based on my district because there is a good mix of young and old. But from the interviews that local media has been conducting, it looks like Obama may win by at least 10 points because the moderate Republicans in the suburbs are skipping their race and going for Obama. Many said they'll be open to voting for Obama in the general too.
Obama should win easily, but the big question will be by how. I'm hoping that we punish Hillary for her negative campaigning.
When do the polls close?
A ... E ... I ... O ... U
While there all nice vowels, you may want to change the last one in your URL from "A" to "I"
Not that I don't think Washing is just a lovely state, but it ain't got a primary today.
8 PM Central Time
although its possible that hillary has pulled a few all-nighters, i wouldn't say "she's worked the night shift too." i think thats a stretch.
I like the fact that the Democratic contest is still up in the air. To think that more states have had a meaningful chance to speak their minds than in the last 30 years is really something. It didn't take all that long for the other side to fall into lockstep (if you don't count the Jesustanis and their leader, the Rev. Ned Flanders and his Holy Bass). They're scared and they figure the longer they have to work the message the more of a chance they'll have to frighten the base into compliance. Of course, they have no message this time round - at least not one that anyone is listening to.
I like the fact that the worst thing you can say about Obama these days is that he might have agreed with someone on how to say something.
I like the fact that Democrats are outpolling their opponents by a better than 2-1 ratio at the polls. Doesn't matter which candidate gets the Dem nod; those numbers are hard to overcome.
I like 2008. So far, so good.
Go Dems, go democracy, Go America!
Oops ... change my above "there" [sic] to "they're"
the ad he's talking about is here: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/ads/
its the first one, called "night shift"
dmhlt @ 7:
Washington has a REPUBLICAN primary today, as Jamie said. Not Democratic.
I have stopped watching the results of the primaries and all the speaches that lead up to them.
Nothing is being said except attacks on each other.
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Number of Operations Iraq Freedom and Enduring Freedom casualties
as confirmed by U.S. Central Command: 4425
OBAMA TAKES WISCONSIN AND HAWAII!
I'll go ahead and get this post out of the way now.
the ad reminded me of "it's hard work" from GWB 2004. As someone who has worked the nightshift in gas stations and at a plastics factory, I just wanted to scream "You don't know nothing about hard work , Hillary!" Hard work is not staying up all night writing policy positions or figuring out how to get more money from lobbyists . Clinton ad C-.
Nicole Belle @ 13:
My understanding is that Washington is also having its Democratic primary today, largely by mail-in vote. The delegates are chosen by last week's caucus, however.
Voted today in one of the busiest precincts in the state, was pretty slow considering. Lot of Captains though. TV cameras were everywhere.
Ryan @ 17:
I live in Washington. There is a primary today. The democrats' vote means nothing because everything was decided via caucus earlier this month. The republicans' vote will choose 50% of the delegates. The first 50% of the delegates were chosen by the earlier caucus.
Ruthless People @ 15:
Even if that's so, you must not have received the memo. If Hillary loses by less than 10%, it's a victory for her. Do your homework.
ms @ 18:
Up north, the precinct I vote in was pulling in about 100/hour for a two-precinct polling station that was new for both precincts. The nice thing about it, it was in my school, so I could take my seniors up there in the afternoon to show them the voting/registration process and allow (not encourage) eligible voters to vote.
Best field trip evah!
Ruthless People @ 15:
what's the point of this post? Haven't we learned enough over the past EIGHT years not to get irrationally exuberant over something that has yet to be determined? Check New Hampshire and South Carolina where the CW got knocked back on its ass. That said since I am committed to donate $5 for every point Obama carries WI by nothing would please me more than to make a $50 plus donation. This one is big.
noonan @ 21:
AWESOME!!
robbymack @ 22:
Oops. Didn't add my comment to #24. Robbymack, I'm going to do this too. This one IS big and I'm hoping hoping hoping for a double digit spread. $5 for every point for me too.
Huckleberry took a hard one. He's stationed down in Little Rock, Arkansas for the time being.
CNN projects that John McCain will win the Republican primary in Wisconsin and no one is surprised by this.
being an ex-cheesehead I'm watching this closely and rooting for Obama - I lived in Milwaukee until I was 13 and went to Golda Meir School on 4th Street across from Schlitz brewery and down the street from Ambrosia Chocolate Factory. Great memories of Wisconsin!! Go Obama!
I never thought I'd live to see the day when one could lose by 5 points, it would be proclaimed a victory. I give up.
Exit Polls are showing that Barak may have tapped into Hillary's base again and pulled out a huge win. But it's way too early to call it.
I have just watched 10 minutes of the CNN coverage here in the UK, local time 2am wednesday.
All I see is a bunch of big mouthed right wing morons all jabbering at the same time, bish bash bosh...let's go to our senior correspondent...let's hear from another big mouth....fucking blah blah blah.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
What's wrong with your country? I'll tell you. You've all got big mouths and you open them and say nothing.
Blitzer is a fine example of this. Dildo is better. Hannity is worse. Blah blah blah.
Which country are you going to bomb next?
Exit Polls are saying that Hillary only won White Women Over 50 making less than 50k.
What voting block is that? Laverne & Shirley?
CBS exits have Obama crushing Clinton.
Cindy was lookin hot today in that white top but I had the sound on so I heard the lane Momma Obama bashing.
Also have him winning white women outright. Time to pull out Hill.
Momma Obama deserves the bashing, it was a dumb thing to say.
Me thinks Hillary forgot that Wisconsin border Illinois Obama's home state.
I can imagine an army of Obama supporters pouring into Wisconsin to speak with every Democrat in the state.
We're wondering here, too...
What's wrong with your country? I'll tell you. You've all got big mouths and you open them and say nothing.
Blitzer is a fine example of this. Dildo is better. Hannity is worse. Blah blah blah.
Which country are you going to bomb next?
Ruthless People @ 15:
You forgot 6% reporting
CD @ 37:
Trust me. Being from Illinois is not going to win anyone votes in any part of Wisconsin north of Milwaukee. :)
McCain is giving his My Friends My Friends My Friends speech. Lord, I can't take 4 yrs. of My Friends. Cindy looks like she stole her some more dope.
john mccain is a miserable old man
my friends, can we now gather around obama and put our energy into getting rid of this piece of shit? will the media continue to bow down to mccain or will we actually start to get a fair picture of how unfit he is?
Hey, Ron Paul got 3%!
noonan @ 40:
If you know what FIB means, you get it!! (I am from IL, noooooo speeding in WI!!!)
SassySandy @ 41:
between his annoying voice and the constant "my friends" i feel like screaming every time i hear him
and he just said he's the most experienced -------- that's not working for hillary dumb ass and it ain't gonna work for you
He's reading from a speech he wrote in 1990.
I'm not the youngest candidate, but I have had the most Botox injections.
OBAMA HAS WON WISCONSIN!!!
budda @ 45:
Seriously, someone should count the number of "my friends". Cindy looks like she should lay off the Botox......
"My friends, I can't compete with Rudy for the most repetitive catchphrase, but my friends I will work every day to call you my friends...uh..my friends."
OH SNAPPLES!
noonan @ 40:
Yeah but Minnesotans are comming from the west to talk to people as well. :)
Mister Anderson @ 47:
Cue the Crickets.
Fanon @ 44:
I used to be stationed in Georgia and when I'd drive back to Wisconsin, I noticed there was ZERO state troopers until you hit Indiana and Wisconsin. They hover in droves on I-94 like 10 miles off the Illinois border. I can do 80 until I hit the state line and then I have to drop to 65 and cruise control into the city.
Msnbc projected Obama the winner in Wisconsin. I guess if you had to stand behind McCain and listen to all that my friends stuff, I would steal and take dope also. Poor Cindy.
CD @ 51:
You're right. The west is Minnesota, the far North is Michigan, and the middle is just Wisconsin. The southeast would favor a Illinois Governor, but nothing more.
SassySandy @ 54:
CNN concurring now
Hillary says any state she doesn't win shouldn't count because it's either too small, too Black, or has a caucus.
What's her excuse for Wisconsin being that it has over 4 million residents, 90% white, said economy was the #1 issue, and has a open primary?
"CNN projects that Barack Obama will win the Wisconsin Democratic primary."
BOOM!
:D
Another fantastic victory for McCain. Allow me to buy everyone in here a shot of Milk of Magnesia with a Prune Juice chaser!
Mister Anderson @ 57:
Link?
Hillary: "Solutions for America"
Google hits: 82,100
Obama: "Change we can believe in"
Google hits: 471,100
Obama wins.
Bullshit Clinton campaign spin of the century: "We never had a real chance here in Wisconsin." Forget about the fact that they were 30 points ahead 3 months ago.
"For the first time in my adult life, I'm really proud of my country." -Michelle Obama...aka "Obamarosa".
Really? For "the first time in your adult life"? It takes your husband getting a lot of primary votes for you to be "really proud" of your country?
Welcome to the beginning of the idiotic screw-ups that are going to hand the Presidency to a geriatric imbecile from Arizona.
Senator Clinton is speaking now. I guess this is when Wisconsin gets told that they don't matter.
Wisconsin: Helping lead America in the 21st century.
What is up with Matthews and his Hillary obsession?
I would honestly pay money to see her sexually harass him on the air. She could talk a little about all of the coverage made about her cleavage while rubbing her chest up and down his arm.
Run her fingers through his hair a bit while talking about pant suits. Maybe even a little nip to the earlobe to really put things into high gear.
Matthews would explode. It would be the best televised political moment since, "Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy."
What's the bidding? I good for $100.
CD @ 65:
Oppps, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
For a second there, I thought she was going to drop out!
She sounds tired.
McCain will be our next president.
Rico @ 20:
Thanks for laughs !! As of now, w/3% reporting, Obama 56%, shillary 43%
==> delta=13 % !!!
SassySandy @ 64:
She's all over the place in this speech. The writer who crafted this speech for her should be fired. Kind of schizophrenic in a way. I feel sorry for her.
budda @ 42:
not until clinton has tried a few more lowdown dirty tricks...., a couple more whacks at baracks kneecaps the day before the ohio primaries.....maybe a love child, or a gay lover, or some unpaid parking tickets, or maybe they'll revisit the way he smells in the morning
Johnny2Bad @ 63:
As a Democratic supporter with no Primary/Caucus allegiance towards Obama or Clinton it troubles me that that in a span of one week the Obama campaign has made 2 screw ups that virtually dominated the newscycles and will no doubtly come back up during the General.
Momma Obama making a comment that cannot be defended.
and
Obama using words of his without attribution.
Obama Campaign needs to get their sh*t together.
Johnny2Bad @ 63:
Call me crazy, but I agree with her. Since we put a Man on the Moon, what universal goal has America really accomplished? I'm a realist, so I'm not afraid to say that any time we cite hope and inspiration, we always go back to the 60s or earlier (unless you're a Republican and you go back to Regan and the Berlin Wall). But after 1969, what has we as a country truly done that would make every American proud regardless of our differences?
I'd love to say how we recovered from 9/11 and rallied the world into a generation of peace and prosperity. But that moment was lost forever when the first bombs hit Iraq. I wasn't alive during the March on Washington. I wasn't alive during V-J Day. I wasn't alive when the South surrendered.
You can live in Mitt Romney world and see this country through rainbow colored classes......I live in the real world where I think we have so much potential but we waste it because we care more about our self interests than the common good for us all.
"one of us" has this, "one of us" has that.... it's almost as bad as "my friends". There's only two of you running, you could refer to him by name, I think.
SassySandy @ 64:
You can bet she won't acknowledge her ninth loss in a row. Better hope that firewall holds, Hill.
CPSAN cut away to Obama. Says it all, really.
CNN.com: Cuts off Hillary to go to Barack.
Poor Hillary.
#59: Another fantastic victory for McCain. Allow me to buy everyone in here a shot of Milk of Magnesia with a Prune Juice chaser!
Hysterical!!!
Uh oh, is he going to be accused of plagiarizing NASA by saying "Lift off"???
Don't cry Johnny2bad.
Mister Anderson @ 47:
9 states in a row! 10 later tonight! Gobama!
McCain: "...or we will risk the confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate!!!!!!
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!
Johnny2Bad @ 67:
Just wait till Obama wins the second race tonight.
Russ Mason UK @ 31:
Normally I'd tell someone from another country what they could do with their opinion.
But, Russ, you're right. Oh so right. So I guess exactly where you're from does not matter.
And by the way, thanks SO MUCH for Rupert Murdoch. You can take him back now, OK? (Yeah, I do know he's Australian, but he came to the US after trtahing your poor country. Besides, Australia won't take him back.)
McCain has finally found a way to align himself with the right-wingers -- adopt a hateful, manipulative narrative smearing the opposition! Woo hoo!
Obamania is indeed sweeping the nation.
My prediction, Clinton will drop out before Denver.
Quote me on it.
Tian @ 59:
I'll have a pile driver- that's Prune Juice and Vodka!
I would call that the Guilliani firewall, how 'bout you?
Sorry troll crybabies, I know you're trying to start a dust-up here at C&L by pretending to be supporters of one candidate or the other using racist and sexist comments to make us look bad and divide the party. I don't think any real Democrat is going to make a racist sexist comment like "momma Obama."
Another thing, the plagiarism claim has been shot down by the very person who originally said those words:
Deval Patrick: I asked Obama to use my words
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Deval_Patrick_I_asked_Obama_to_0219.html
Obama is giving another great speech.
Ron @ 79:
He cannot, Ron - donated all his fake tears to shillary.
He knows only how to throw up - just look up any thread. It doesn't matter how disgusting it sounds to all of us.
Case closed.
Houston loves Obama. That's a Texas sized crowd he's got tonight.
CappuccettoRosso @ 89:
Yeah, I've been reading his comments. He always goes to the extreme.
Y'all are missing the forest for the trees. Wisconsin is an open primary - meaning that voters are free to vote for whomever they want, not merely the candidates for their own parties.
Look at the vote counts - as of 6:45pm PST, ABC had Obama at 77,798 votes and Clinton 60,027. The combined total for all Republican candidates was only 52,806.
CD @ 81:
Buuuuuuuuuuik!
Wisconsin used to count a few weeks ago when Hillary was ahead by over 20 points.
... but then it got all irrelevant and stuff.
Blowing a 20 point lead and loosing by what - almost 10 points?
Ouch - just ouch
Chris Gamble @ 72:
47 million people need healthcare and 134,000 troops in Iraq need to come home. And all you care about is alleged plagiarism and your addiction to cynicism and disbelief. Looks like you have some seriously misplaced priorities.
Listening to Obama on CNN @ about 9:50PM EST someone from CNN with an open mic can be heard saying "Your never gonna have to go to confession again, right, your becoming Jewish, right?"
Anonymouse @ 92:
This is a surprise how? Have you seen the Repub candidates? EEK!
Hawaii has 20 delegates up for grabs not 17. The state also has 9 additional superdelegates for a total of 29 coming out of the convention in May. I'm just leaving for my local caucus now but the Wisconsin win is impressive.
EMPY @ 96:
I heard that, too!
Looks like Hillary is done.
Anonymouse @ 92:
you see the fact that it was an open primary. i see the fact that the republicans are so drained from this presidency that a bunch of them said, "fuck it, let's go bowling" and didn't come out or are so sick of their own party they voted democrat.
CNN Projects Barack Obama as the Winner in Wisconsin. That's Nine in a Row. He'll Carry Hawaii, Which Will Make It Ten. (You'll Have to Stay Up to Midnight EST for Hawaii Results.) Hillary, Don't Destroy the Democratic Party, Please. We Need to Get the Republicans Out of the White House.
bmw 528 @ 95:
Is this your first time following Politics? I'm interested in winning in November. Those goals won't be in reach with a GOP in the White House.
Let me tell you WHY Obama is an idiot: he just referred to "ordinary Americans making less than $75,000 a year...", as needing tax breaks. So now $75,000 is the cut off for being ordinary? What an idiot.
I'm voting for McCain, cause of ONE ISSUE, and ONE ISSUE ONLY: he's against the DEATH TAX... yes, it's selfish... I don't give a shit about any other issue.
Now there's some "straight-talk" for ya...
Art and music and science and literature and social studies!
College affordable for every young person in America!
Wooooooo!
Wooooooo!
Dems have turned out 195,000 voters to Repugs 78,000 in Wisconsin so far. I guess they didn't really want to venture out in sub zero temps to vote for more war, less jobs. Funny that.
Mister Anderson @ 73:
"I'd love to say how we recovered from 9/11."
BINGO!
Yes, the Idiot in Chief f*cked it up after that....But we all deserved to be "really proud of our country" those few days after 911.
Guess it just slipped Michelle's mind.
Look...these two (Sen. and Mrs. Obama) are first class megalomaniacal rookies who will blow it come November.
Amazing.
king of mean @ 104:
O.....K......
ctk in ky3 @ 101:
On the other hand, the Republicans are marketing McCain as a change candidate. If given the choice between Hillary and Obama they choose Obama. But what if they're given the choice of voting for McCain in the general?
Wasn't McCain one of the KEATING FIVE? How about some "straight talk" about that...
Responsible for bankrupting the country, and now he's a frickin' hero...
What an ass... but at least he's agains the DEATH TAX.
What is Edwards waiting for?
bmw 528 @ 95:
you beat me to it! the plagiarism charge is false. Obama credited the words to their source whan he first said them.
As for others speaking their minds, who the fuck cares. As long as BillShitArtist is running his lying lips, none of the clintonistas should speak.
Chris Gamble @ 103:
Spare me your condescension, I started out in politics by working for Mc Govern in 1972. You are suggesting that Obama will lose to an imbecile hack like Mc Cain? What planet do you live on?
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
So far Americans seem to disagree with you. Although Bush was voted for by a helluva lot of people....TWICE...so....
ctk in ky3 @ 101:
Actually, that's exactly what I was looking at.
Geez, I figured in Wisconsin, people wound be "bound" to their party.
On the other hand, I guess that may just mean that Obama has broad appeal. Everyone wants to vote for the guy.
Isn't it remarkable how fussy and nitpicking about Obama the Hillary supporters are, considering many of them having voted for Bush purely because of his support for Israel and disregarded little petty items like him being an alcoholic and drunk, failed businessman, disgraceful service in the National Guard, cheating with taperecorder in the debates, couldn't put three words together without a gaffe, had never been out of the U.S., didn't know names of world leaders, etc etc etc. Notwithstanding a Diebold victory for Hillary, I think her ultimate defeat will serve all of them right.
Putin: President (Hillary) Clinton, we almost have a deal on these nuclear weapons...
Hillary: Wait a second, I'm menstrating now, I need to leave this important meeting for an hour or two...
Putin: Wow, I thought she would have been out of commission years ago...
Obama is ten times better than Kerry.
McCain is only about 25% better than Bush.
It's going to be no contest.
king of mean @ 104:
You must be wealthy and have over 2 million in assets because you are only taxed on the assets over 2 million. It's not a death tax. No such thing in the tax code. If you vote for McCain you will get what you deserve, nothing, because he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
And what are you going to do to assure a Democratic victory in November? Call Obama names? Please do tell us your solution.
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
Why do you care? You don't vote, right? You've said that on C&l multiple times. So, why do you care who will do what come November?
Obama is saying EVERYTHING I want to hear.
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
What the hell were you proud of (the country for) after 9/11?
Missing the warnings?
Dropping the ball?
amazing
king of mean @ 118:
Grow up.
king of mean @ 104:
Despite your selfishness, Senator Obama is not an idiot. $75K/year income is the upper bound of the middle class. "Ordinary" can mean more than one thing.
If you're concerned about his interpretation of "ordinary," perhaps you should consider the larger effects of your opposition to the Estate Tax - a deepening of both deficits and wealth inequalities, especially for those who have no estates to leave their survivors.
bmw 528 @ 95:
Its not "alleged" plagiarism. He admitted it. It just "wasn't a big deal".
And...All you seem to care about is your "addiction" to this phoney, snake oil kumbaya vision of "hope and togetherness."
As incompetent as they are, the Republicans in congress are going to eat this "pussy" for lunch.
If "you are the change you've been waiting for"...We are in deep sh*t.
king of mean @ 104:
Good luck with that one.
Re: Obama: Congrats Obama. This is fantastic news. I only hope that Clinton has the common sense to drop out before serious damage is done to the democratic candidate's chances in November.
Fanon @ 122:
Never, ever said that. Find that quote. You can't. So quick....apologize and then STFU.
So how's Hillary going to spin Obama's Wisconsin win?
Another state, another butt kickin' for Billy Jeff and Hillary.
Johnny2Bad @ 127:
Polling: Obama beats McCain; McCain beats Clinton.
Johnny2Bad @ 127:
Trash talkers like you are part of the problem, not the solution. But suit yourself---do nothing but piss and moan. You get what you pay for. If you want to trash Democratic candidates at least have the courtesy to go to Redstate instead of polluting this blogsite with your nonsense.
Johnny
Nope, won't. On a previous thread, too long ago to find, in a discussion regarding the two party system you referred to those of us who were voting as stupid. You talked about the fact that if there was no third party, then it was stupid to vote.
If I am wrong, then tell us who you are going to vote for.
PS. Grandad says you've lost the argument as you used profanity first.
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
I'm sorry, I can't be proud of a few days. I can't be proud of a few months. I can't be proud of a few years.
I can only be proud of FOREVER.
We shouldn't have to be attacked to be united for a few days. We need strong men and women from all backgrounds like Barak Obama who have the courage and will to unite this world through the common good we share forever.
lopaloo102 @ 124:
What the hell were you proud of (the country for) after 9/11?
Missing the warnings?
Dropping the ball?
amazing
FDNY...NYPD...Port Authority Police...The ground Zero searchers...The people of NYC and everyone who pulled together to donate to the families.
Pretty easy to figure out unless you're you. God.
Amazing.
Johnny2Bad @ 107:
Give us a break. You sound like Guiliani. And what are we supposed to be proud of about 9/11? that the firefighters had obsolete communications? That the government botched catching the criminals before they acted? That our presnit took forever to stop reading my pet goat before acting? That our "leaders" set up a shadow government filled with neocons? That we attacked a country in retribution for that horrible day that had nothing to do with 9/11? That we fabricated our reasons for that war? That we are fabricating reasons for attacking Iran?
Just what the fuck are we supposed to be proud about in how we reacted to 9/11? Yeah, the country banded together, and then anyone who opened their mouths and said anything critical of our response was called a traitor.
So yeah, I'm proud. Obama is the first person in our country since 9/11 to stand up and say enough is enough. I'm proud that we might elect this guy. I'm proud that he's a black man and our country seems to not make him unelectable because of his skin color.
It took what? 7 years for our country to wake up?
king of mean @ 118:
Hey asshat. Check out the shit on menstruation...Hillary has probably quit the rag. She's 60. I assume that you have heard this as an excuse in the past. If women are excusing themselves from you and using their menses as an excuse, you should take it as a sign-that they'll say anything to get away from you.
And with all your knowledge of Menses, Menstruation and the pithy little sexist joke you tried here could be part of the reason.
Fanon @ 134:
Johnny sounds too much like a republican, always whining and twisting the facts.
OPpps
lopaloo102 @ 124:
FDNY…NYPD…Port Authority Police…The ground Zero searchers…The people of NYC and everyone who pulled together to donate to the families.
Pretty easy to figure out unless you’re you. God.
Amazing.
miss_kitty @ 138:
Oh, miss kitty. Hiiiiilarious!
king of mean @ 118:
You're disgusting.
Johnny2Bad @ 136:
FDNY...NYPD...Port Authority Police...The ground Zero searchers...The people of NYC and everyone who pulled together to donate to the families.
Pretty easy to figure out unless you're you. God.
Amazing.
lopaloo102 says---
Yeah, j2b, but none of those you listed qualify for "the country"
you are nuts
you hate obama with the same fervency as the right hates clinton.....it's admirable in a way, but a bit deranged.
you gotta work hard to square that circle.....but you did....i commend your hate-driven enthusiasm (or are you just bitter that nobody gave 2 cents about edwards)
Johnny2Bad @ 136:
FDNY...NYPD...Port Authority Police...The ground Zero searchers...The people of NYC and everyone who pulled together to donate to the families.
Pretty easy to figure out unless you're you. God.
Amazing.
Now, I'm just gonna go out on a limb here, but perhaps African Americans might tend to have a different perspective on the greater glory of these United States. Or perhaps she said something off-the-cuff that she would likely disagree with herself, given time to reflect.
But I guess that may be just because I don't automatically think that what I think is the best measure of the Universe.
You guys need to stop feeding the trolls around here. Jeez.
Fanon @ 134:
Never wrote that either. I'll cop to things I've actually written....not for things you make up.
Robert @ 142:
I'll second that. What a sad and sexist post.
Robert @ 142:
Ditto.
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