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xoites defends Constitution's picture

Support our ideals. Support our Constitution. Support our workers. Support our veterans. Support education. Support the dismantlement of the corporate press.

Support C&L.

Jesse's picture

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

Ruthless People's picture

Support-our-God-blessed-troops-for-fighting-for-supporting-freedom

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Dennis Kucinich announces that he will call a congressional hearing for the sick 9/11 first responders

If you can afford a few dollars, please donate to his congressional campaign. The bad guys are ganging up on him . . . we can't afford to lose a good congressman.

Thanks!

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Jesse @ 2:

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

Well, we still have to fight for what is ours because when we give it up someone makes a shitload of money.

Snowball's picture

I just love the "Freedom isn't Free" routine. I've seen it spraypainted on local railroad trestles. It reminds me of the party slogan from Orwell's "1984."

"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."

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Snowball @ 6:

I just love the "Freedom isn't Free" routine. I've seen it spraypainted on local railroad trestles. It reminds me of the party slogan from Orwell's "1984."

"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."

We are the dead

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Left Coaster, 2006:

McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money. In 2000, McCain managed to deflect media questioning about his first marriage with a deft admission of responsibility for its failure. It's possible that the age of the offense and McCain's charmed relationship with the press will pull him through again, but Giuliani and Gingrich may face a more difficult challenge. Both conducted well-documented affairs in the last decade--while still in public office.

What a creep.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 5:

Jesse @ 2:

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

Well, we still have to fight for what is ours because when we give it up someone makes a shitload of money.

True, but I don't consider assholes trying to take my freedom as a cost. Freedom is only lost when a person gives it up. If you fight and die against those who would rob your rights, you live and die free.

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Jesse @ 8:

xoites defends Constitution @ 5:

Jesse @ 2:

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

Well, we still have to fight for what is ours because when we give it up someone makes a shitload of money.

True, but I don't consider assholes trying to take my freedom as a cost. Freedom is only lost when a person gives it up. If you fight and die against those who would rob your rights, you live and die free.

You are correct, i wish everyone grasped it as you do.

CheezeBox's picture

Why support the troops if you're against the war? Seriously, those soldiers are adults and are knowingly committing a crime against humanity. No, I will *not* support the troops.

porkchop's picture

Uh-huh.

I have long been a fan of Mr. Fish. He carries on a great deconstructionist tradition, taking what is given and showing it back to us to ask whether we really want it.

Ruthless People's picture

"Bumper sticker I saw on a car last week:

"No flag is big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people"

I think it's safe to assume this wasn't a wingnut's car.

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Ruthless People @ 12:

"Bumper sticker I saw on a car last week:

"No flag is big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people"

I think it's safe to assume this wasn't a wingnut's car.

Never know - the car could have belonged to an anti-choice brownshirt - the language is just that vague.

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CheezeBox @ 10:

Why support the troops if you're against the war? Seriously, those soldiers are adults and are knowingly committing a crime against humanity. No, I will *not* support the troops.

Some of the most dedicated workers for peace and justice were once in the military. Howard Zinn being just one of them.

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porkchop @ 13:

Ruthless People @ 12:

"Bumper sticker I saw on a car last week:

"No flag is big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people"

I think it's safe to assume this wasn't a wingnut's car.

Never know - the car could have belonged to an anti-choice brownshirt - the language is just that vague.

Doubt it.

Seriously doubt it.

CheezeBox's picture

Sad to say, but our troops are part of the problem

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xoites defends Constitution @ 15:

porkchop @ 13:

Ruthless People @ 12:

"Bumper sticker I saw on a car last week:

"No flag is big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people"

I think it's safe to assume this wasn't a wingnut's car.

Never know - the car could have belonged to an anti-choice brownshirt - the language is just that vague.

As do I - the point is that we're if we're in a serious effort to decry bland pleasantries, we'd better not be caught hoisting our own, or we'd look pretty damn foolish.
Doubt it.

Seriously doubt it.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

porkchop's picture

and score three points if you can detangle that mess :)

Orangutan.'s picture

This from the party that brags about Family Values...
http://www.armchairsubversive.org

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xoites defends Constitution @ 1:

Support our ideals. Support our Constitution. Support our workers. Support our veterans. Support education. Support the dismantlement of the corporate press.

Support C&L.

Support our support systems.

Kahoneez's picture

Anderson Cooper , before you claim some kind of hit piece on poor little John McCain , first tell what the story is about , concerning his alleged AFFAIR , you sound like F O X .

Especially when you clowns have given him a FREE ride , virtually never mentioning criticisms from the left and we all know what Hillary's and Obama's " problems' are .

Ruthless People's picture

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 21:

xoites defends Constitution @ 1:

Support our ideals. Support our Constitution. Support our workers. Support our veterans. Support education. Support the dismantlement of the corporate press.

Support C&L.

Support our support systems.

And for God's sake whatever you do, support the support beam!

Orangutan.'s picture

Support the Truth.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

As an aside to tonight's open thread (where anything goes) why don't we try to come up witha good bumber sticker? Any focus will do.

StirFry's picture

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 18:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

I support blowing up the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpX5aa5Lz4

xoites defends Constitution's picture

StirFry @ 26:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 18:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

I support blowing up the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpX5aa5Lz4

Would that put surf board makers out of work?

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Ruthless People @ 12:

"Bumper sticker I saw on a car last week:

"No flag is big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people"

I think it's safe to assume this wasn't a wingnut's car.

How about a solid Gold flag that plays Lee Greenwood songs when you beat them over their nappy 3rd world heads with it? Too much?

xoites defends Constitution's picture

StirFry @ 26:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 18:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

I support blowing up the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpX5aa5Lz4

Man, am i glad Bush never saw that.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 27:

StirFry @ 26:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 18:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

I support blowing up the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpX5aa5Lz4

Would that put surf board makers out of work?

Yes, Mr. Zog's Sex Wax would be no more.

StirFry's picture

Yeah, it would be something the administration would do...including replacing the chimp. I wish we could replace our chimp right now.

ProIntelCo's picture

support jock straps!

xoites defends Constitution's picture

The Taxis in Las Vegas have bumper stickers that say, "If you can see my tires you are a safe driver."

To which i always add in my head, "Yeah, or a dying pedestrian."

ProIntelCo's picture

support bra straps!

Aruba's picture

CheezeBox @ 16:

Sad to say, but our troops are part of the problem

Agreed.

AngryOne's picture

The blogosphere is abuzz with the New York Times story about presumptive GOP nominee John McCain and the nature of his relationship with lobbyist Vicki Iseman. It remains unclear why the paper sat on the story since December. But whether or not the New York Times has had the goods on him, it didn't stop the Times from endorsing John McCain in the state's Republican primary last month.

For the details, see:
"NY Times Endorsed McCain Before Running Scandal Piece."

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Aruba @ 35:

CheezeBox @ 16:

Sad to say, but our troops are part of the problem

Agreed.

I know, but it is awfully difficult for me to criticize a member of the military in a combat situation. The choices are very hard once you get to that point. You can refuse and face prison, dishonorable discharge and worse. It is up to the rest of us to keep them out of harm's way.

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Woo Hoo! We shot 'er down!

One less spy satellite, I bet Cheney is rubbing his hands with glee at this news

Orangutan.'s picture

BREAKING: Ohio SoS Fires Another GOP County Election Official, GOP State Senator Applauds

30-Year Summit County Republican Boss Alex Arshinkoff Latest in Series of OH Election Officials to Face Reprimand, Criminal Charges

http://www.GetItStraightBy2008.org
http://pol.moveon.org/paper2008

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Aruba @ 35:

CheezeBox @ 16:

Sad to say, but our troops are part of the problem

Agreed.

Seriously? I'm sure it has nothing to do with Monkey-in-chief.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

odanny @ 38:

Woo Hoo! We shot 'er down!

One less spy satellite, I bet Cheney is rubbing his hands with glee at this news

What Cheney rubs in his off time i don't want to know about.

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

Aruba @ 35:

CheezeBox @ 16:

Sad to say, but our troops are part of the problem

Agreed.

I know, but it is awfully difficult for me to criticize a member of the military in a combat situation. The choices are very hard once you get to that point. You can refuse and face prison, dishonorable discharge and worse. It is up to the rest of us to keep them out of harm's way.

You can choose not to enlist. Even as an active member, as a human being, you should be willing to give up your job before being part of the machine that kills civilians and destroys families. Sorry no sympathy here. After a certain age you take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. Very few Americans are asking them to fight.

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CheezeBox @ 42:

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

Aruba @ 35:

CheezeBox @ 16:

Agreed.

I know, but it is awfully difficult for me to criticize a member of the military in a combat situation. The choices are very hard once you get to that point. You can refuse and face prison, dishonorable discharge and worse. It is up to the rest of us to keep them out of harm's way.

You can choose not to enlist. Even as an active member, as a human being, you should be willing to give up your job before being part of the machine that kills civilians and destroys families. Sorry no sympathy here. After a certain age you take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. Very few Americans are asking them to fight.

Ok, as a citizen you should be willing to chain yourself to a tank being sent over to Iraq or to destroy a nuclear weapon. Have you looked into doing that? Are you clear about what the consequenses are if you do?

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Have you thought about destroying Selective Service System records? Did you know that if you did it would be a Felony Destruction of Government Property charge? That you could face ten plus years?

What are you waiting for?

CheezeBox's picture

I choose to, at the very least, not be part of the problem. Support the troops? For what?

For the bravery of defeating an unarmed nation?
For the courage to steal another nation's oil?
For the valor of doing Bush's bidding?

You've got to be kidding. These people are certainly not worth supporting. They are part of this war crime.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

CheezeBox @ 45:

I choose to, at the very least, not be part of the problem. Support the troops? For what?

For the bravery of defeating an unarmed nation?
For the courage to steal another nation's oil?
For the valor of doing Bush's bidding?

You've got to be kidding. These people are certainly not worth supporting. They are part of this war crime.

But you sit here in judgement of them while you act as a coward.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

What the hell are you risking to end this war?

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Have you thought about destroying Selective Service System records? Did you know that if you did it would be a Felony Destruction of Government Property charge? That you could face ten plus years?

What are you waiting for?

Your logic is twisted. I'm not advocating anything illegal like you suggest. I am advocating the opposite: an end to the aggression (which I believe to be illegal).

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 47:

What the hell are you risking to end this war?


What are we sacrificing??
Let's see:

1) Destruction of our economy
2) Habeaus Corpus
3) Illegal wiretapping
4) Secret prisons around the world
5) A divided America

oh, and some of our fellow human beings are being killed as a result of an unjustified war.

Enough sacrifice for you?

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CheezeBox @ 48:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Have you thought about destroying Selective Service System records? Did you know that if you did it would be a Felony Destruction of Government Property charge? That you could face ten plus years?

What are you waiting for?

Your logic is twisted. I'm not advocating anything illegal like you suggest. I am advocating the opposite: an end to the aggression (which I believe to be illegal).

I am also advocating the end of this war, but i refuse to put the responsibility on somewone else. You are blaming the troops. I strongly disagree. They are doing what they have been trained to do. To do otherwise would risk imprisonment, a record excluding them from employment for the rest of their lives.

What are YOU willing to risk to end this war? You are asking a hell of a lot from other people, what about you?

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One quibble with the cartoon: too many of the hands are African-American.

When you see (small) crowds of people holding those types of signs, they almost invariably tend to be all-white.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

You do not change the world by critizing the actions of others.

You lead by example.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

It is hard, isn't it? To imagine yourself taking a stand so strongly that you could go to jail for five or ten years. That is what you are asking of these folks.

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 51:

CheezeBox @ 48:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Have you thought about destroying Selective Service System records? Did you know that if you did it would be a Felony Destruction of Government Property charge? That you could face ten plus years?

What are you waiting for?

Your logic is twisted. I'm not advocating anything illegal like you suggest. I am advocating the opposite: an end to the aggression (which I believe to be illegal).

I am also advocating the end of this war, but i refuse to put the responsibility on somewone else. You are blaming the troops. I strongly disagree. They are doing what they have been trained to do. To do otherwise would risk imprisonment, a record excluding them from employment for the rest of their lives.

What are YOU willing to risk to end this war? You are asking a hell of a lot from other people, what about you?

I have sacrificed and so have you.

Believe me, our country is in deep shit, we just haven't felt the pain yet. We are potentially bankrupt within a decade (destruction of the economy by the hands of our elected officials) and we've created enemies for many years to come (but the military you're so proud of).

Bottom line: You and everyone else has been made to sacrifice their well being this year and many to come. The punch line: All this trouble comes without your consent.

Tell me, how do you propose to "support the troops"?? By wishful slogans? How about voting for a truly anti-war candidate. (Hint none exists in front runner status).

xoites defends Constitution's picture

I know people who did it during the Vietnam War. Draft resisters. They did "Zip Six" sentences. That means from zero to six years. They had no idea when they would be released. Most of them did the full six years.

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 56:

I know people who did it during the Vietnam War. Draft resisters. They did "Zip Six" sentences. That means from zero to six years. They had no idea when they would be released. Most of them did the full six years.

Last time I checked, we have an all-volunteer army. The keyword is "volunteer".

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CheezeBox @ 55:

xoites defends Constitution @ 51:

CheezeBox @ 48:

xoites defends Constitution @ 44:

Your logic is twisted. I'm not advocating anything illegal like you suggest. I am advocating the opposite: an end to the aggression (which I believe to be illegal).

I am also advocating the end of this war, but i refuse to put the responsibility on somewone else. You are blaming the troops. I strongly disagree. They are doing what they have been trained to do. To do otherwise would risk imprisonment, a record excluding them from employment for the rest of their lives.

What are YOU willing to risk to end this war? You are asking a hell of a lot from other people, what about you?

I have sacrificed and so have you.

Believe me, our country is in deep shit, we just haven't felt the pain yet. We are potentially bankrupt within a decade (destruction of the economy by the hands of our elected officials) and we've created enemies for many years to come (but the military you're so proud of).

Bottom line: You and everyone else has been made to sacrifice their well being this year and many to come. The punch line: All this trouble comes without your consent.

Tell me, how do you propose to "support the troops"?? By wishful slogans? How about voting for a truly anti-war candidate. (Hint none exists in front runner status).

You do not know me very well, that is not your fault. I am totally opposed to us having a military. I am not proud of our military. I support the people who for whatever reason end up on the front lines, whether it be in the soup kitchens or the battlefield. I am a pacifist. I am oppossed to all wars. I have also run shelters full of homeless vets and i have a fairly good idea what they go through.

What we need is not blame, we need organized resistance to the machine. Our soldiers are not our enemy.

RantingRaver's picture

I can't believe that torture is even an issue being discussed... It's even more outrageous that the GOP candidate actually supports committing war crimes.

Check out this article: Torture isn’t an issue, it’s a war crime.

MountainMan23's picture

Sadly this Nation was born in blood, the blood of the American Revolution.

And it didn't stop there, nor did it begin there.

The New American Nation continued the expansionist policies of British whom they had just defeated.

The Imperial Project simply continued under new management.

Stan Rosenthal's picture

Supposedly they hit that satellite during the eclipse. Mike Malloy Show bumpered with a tune off of The Dark Side Of The Moon (the tune with the lyric: There really is no dark side of the Moon. It's all dark) ... funny!

But the reports about it originating from the defense department about it sound like all those reports that we've hit the 3rd highest level Al Qaida leader ... 3 days or 3 weeks later they end up admitting that all they killed were innocent civilians or soldiers fighting on our side. It wouldn't suprise me in the least if they come back out in a few days and announced that we actually shot down the space station.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

RantingRaver @ 59:

I can't believe that torture is even an issue being discussed... It's even more outrageous that the GOP candidate actually supports committing war crimes.

Check out this article: Torture isn’t an issue, it’s a war crime.

Yes, it is a war crime and it is not debatable.

ZombieNation's picture

Feel free to die for bullshit, lies, $$, oil & Bush.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Hi Stan! :)

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ZombieNation @ 63:

Feel free to die for bullshit, lies, $$, oil & Bush.

Feel free to resist the bullshit, lies, $$, oil & Bush.

Proud2bHumble's picture

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 19:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

lol

CheezeBox's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 58:

CheezeBox @ 55:

xoites defends Constitution @ 51:

CheezeBox @ 48:

I am also advocating the end of this war, but i refuse to put the responsibility on somewone else. You are blaming the troops. I strongly disagree. They are doing what they have been trained to do. To do otherwise would risk imprisonment, a record excluding them from employment for the rest of their lives.

What are YOU willing to risk to end this war? You are asking a hell of a lot from other people, what about you?

I have sacrificed and so have you.

Believe me, our country is in deep shit, we just haven't felt the pain yet. We are potentially bankrupt within a decade (destruction of the economy by the hands of our elected officials) and we've created enemies for many years to come (but the military you're so proud of).

Bottom line: You and everyone else has been made to sacrifice their well being this year and many to come. The punch line: All this trouble comes without your consent.

Tell me, how do you propose to "support the troops"?? By wishful slogans? How about voting for a truly anti-war candidate. (Hint none exists in front runner status).

You do not know me very well, that is not your fault. I am totally opposed to us having a military. I am not proud of our military. I support the people who for whatever reason end up on the front lines, whether it be in the soup kitchens or the battlefield. I am a pacifist. I am oppossed to all wars. I have also run shelters full of homeless vets and i have a fairly good idea what they go through.

What we need is not blame, we need organized resistance to the machine. Our soldiers are not our enemy.

Agreed. However, I think that empty sloganeering of "supporting the troops" is very misguided. Like you I believe war in the vast majority of cases is absolutely unjustified. I believe in talking, trading, interacting, debating, with all people around the world.

My only point, which is started by the picture attached to the thread, is that the suggestion that we should blindly support the troops (because that somehow elevates us to super-patriot) is a ridiculous premise. Of course soldiers aren't all guilty of the crime called the Iraq war; but to say that they are not part of the problem and that we should "support" the troops is ludicrous.

Proud2bHumble's picture

Ruthless People @ 24:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 21:

xoites defends Constitution @ 1:

Support our ideals. Support our Constitution. Support our workers. Support our veterans. Support education. Support the dismantlement of the corporate press.

Support C&L.

Support our support systems.

And for God's sake whatever you do, support the support beam!

Even if you have to wear a truss.

Proud2bHumble's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 34:

The Taxis in Las Vegas have bumper stickers that say, "If you can see my tires you are a safe driver."

To which i always add in my head, "Yeah, or a dying pedestrian."

LOL!!

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CheezeBox @ 67:

xoites defends Constitution @ 58:

CheezeBox @ 55:

xoites defends Constitution @ 51:
I have sacrificed and so have you.

Believe me, our country is in deep shit, we just haven't felt the pain yet. We are potentially bankrupt within a decade (destruction of the economy by the hands of our elected officials) and we've created enemies for many years to come (but the military you're so proud of).

Bottom line: You and everyone else has been made to sacrifice their well being this year and many to come. The punch line: All this trouble comes without your consent.

Tell me, how do you propose to "support the troops"?? By wishful slogans? How about voting for a truly anti-war candidate. (Hint none exists in front runner status).

You do not know me very well, that is not your fault. I am totally opposed to us having a military. I am not proud of our military. I support the people who for whatever reason end up on the front lines, whether it be in the soup kitchens or the battlefield. I am a pacifist. I am oppossed to all wars. I have also run shelters full of homeless vets and i have a fairly good idea what they go through.

What we need is not blame, we need organized resistance to the machine. Our soldiers are not our enemy.

Agreed. However, I think that empty sloganeering of "supporting the troops" is very misguided. Like you I believe war in the vast majority of cases is absolutely unjustified. I believe in talking, trading, interacting, debating, with all people around the world.

My only point, which is started by the picture attached to the thread, is that the suggestion that we should blindly support the troops (because that somehow elevates us to super-patriot) is a ridiculous premise. Of course soldiers aren't all guilty of the crime called the Iraq war; but to say that they are not part of the problem and that we should "support" the troops is ludicrous.

I have never used the slogan, "Support Our Troops" in any context. If you look at the cartoon closely i think you will see that using it is killing those who do.

I do not believe in war under any circumstances. I believe in non violent resistance. (It works almost exactly as well, sometimes better.)

Proud2bHumble's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 42:

odanny @ 38:

Woo Hoo! We shot 'er down!

One less spy satellite, I bet Cheney is rubbing his hands with glee at this news

What Cheney rubs in his off time i don't want to know about.

eeww... whatever it is, it ain't much.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Hi 2B, how's it going?

doubting Thomas's picture

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 19:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

lol

TWA 800

R.I.P.

Proud2bHumble's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 72:

Hi 2B, how's it going?

Apparently in a linear fashion, but it could just be a section of a really big circle...

8-)))))))

Proud2bHumble's picture

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 19:

Now that the Navy has shot up the dying spy satellite, maybe they'll shoot at the Lunar Eclipse.

lol

TWA 800

R.I.P.

You left off the last 'T'. I'm sorry your vibrator died...

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Proud2bHumble @ 75:

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 19:

lol

TWA 800

R.I.P.

You left off the last 'T'. I'm sorry your vibrator died...

Be carefull.

You are getting to be like me. :)

Proud2bHumble's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

Proud2bHumble @ 75:

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

R.I.P.

Be carefull.

You are getting to be like me. :)

Would that be so bad? In case you missed it.

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Jesse @ 2:

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

The creator can't balance his checkbook; that is why the clergy is always asking for money.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Proud2bHumble @ 77:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

Proud2bHumble @ 75:

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Be carefull.

You are getting to be like me. :)

Would that be so bad? In case you missed it.

Yes, then you would not be who you are and we would all be deprived. :)

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xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

You do not change the world by critizing the actions of others.

You lead by example.

Exactly.

In the words of a former member of the Weather Underground, who years later had finally wised up, "We cherished hate as a badge of moral superiority and you can't build a movement on hate."

xoites defends Constitution's picture

peaceful easy feeling @ 80:

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

You do not change the world by critizing the actions of others.

You lead by example.

Exactly.

In the words of a former member of the Weather Underground, who years later had finally wised up, "We cherished hate as a badge of moral superiority and you can't build a movement on hate."

No, you can't. They accidently killed some people too. They did not, as far as i can tell, mean to, but those folks are just as dead.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 79:

Proud2bHumble @ 77:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

Proud2bHumble @ 75:

Be carefull.

You are getting to be like me. :)

Would that be so bad? In case you missed it.

Yes, then you would not be who you are and we would all be deprived. :)

Mom always said " better depraved than deprived"...I've got issues...(haha?)

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Chuck @ 78:

Jesse @ 2:

"Freedom isn't free." That's odd, wasn't our country founded on the concept that freedom in an inalienable right given to us by our creator? Sounds free to me!

The creator can't balance his checkbook; that is why the clergy is always asking for money.

Nice! 8-)

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Proud2bHumble @ 82:

xoites defends Constitution @ 79:

Proud2bHumble @ 77:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

Would that be so bad? In case you missed it.

Yes, then you would not be who you are and we would all be deprived. :)

Mom always said " better depraved than deprived"...I've got issues...(haha?)

Someday we can get into my issues. Let me know when you want to stay awake for three days.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 84:

Proud2bHumble @ 82:

xoites defends Constitution @ 79:

Proud2bHumble @ 77:

Yes, then you would not be who you are and we would all be deprived. :)

Mom always said " better depraved than deprived"...I've got issues...(haha?)

Someday we can get into my issues. Let me know when you want to stay awake for three days.

Meth is more than an issue.

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LOL!

87)

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I will soon be able to retire and hand my legacy on to you.

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Support our troops, stop asking them to die for lies. Stop asking them to kill for oil. Stop asking them to be pawns in the genocide of Muslims. 1,000,000 Iraqis dead and counting. Makes Saddam look like a grade school librarian.

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Of course being King Smart Ass may not be the goal your parents wanted you to achieve...

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JustSickOfIt @ 88:

Support our troops, stop asking them to die for lies. Stop asking them to kill for oil. Stop asking them to be pawns in the genocide of Muslims. 1,000,000 Iraqis dead and counting. Makes Saddam look like a grade school librarian.

I agree, and don't lay the blame on them. If anything it was our fault, not theirs.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 87:

I will soon be able to retire and hand my legacy on to you.

Your fiance is a soon to be divorced wealthy blond? That explains the meth...(haha)

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Did I say divorced? I meant widowed.

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Proud2bHumble @ 91:

xoites defends Constitution @ 87:

I will soon be able to retire and hand my legacy on to you.

Your fiance is a soon to be divorced wealthy blond? That explains the meth...(haha)

No, she divorced 14 years ago.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 89:

Of course being King Smart Ass may not be the goal your parents wanted you to achieve...

I prefer the parliamentary smartass system, and would prefer to continue moving the country forward with our progressive smartass coalition. :-)

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xoites defends Constitution @ 81:

peaceful easy feeling @ 80:

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

You do not change the world by critizing the actions of others.

You lead by example.

Exactly.

In the words of a former member of the Weather Underground, who years later had finally wised up, "We cherished hate as a badge of moral superiority and you can't build a movement on hate."

No, you can't. They accidently killed some people too. They did not, as far as i can tell, mean to, but those folks are just as dead.

I've wondered about what happened at Kent State, too, whether the Ohio guard really meant to shoot those students.

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By the by, Bush's approval ratings are now hovering around 19%....

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Not that it helps us, the Iraqis or the rest of the world, and it's not like the people around bush jr. will inform him of the poll - he disdains polls anyway, just like anything else remotely democratic...

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xoites defends Constitution @ 93:

Proud2bHumble @ 91:

xoites defends Constitution @ 87:

I will soon be able to retire and hand my legacy on to you.

Your fiance is a soon to be divorced wealthy blond? That explains the meth...(haha)

No, she divorced 14 years ago.

Obviously, good things come to those who wait. And wait. And wait. Crap, what took you so long? haha

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Proud2bHumble @ 75:

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 19:

lol

TWA 800

R.I.P.

You left off the last 'T'. I'm sorry your vibrator died...

I told you to put new batteries in it after you were done with it. You forgot to clean it too. You make such messes.

(hehe)

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americangoy @ 96:

By the by, Bush's approval ratings are now hovering around 19%....

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Not that it helps us, the Iraqis or the rest of the world, and it's not like the people around bush jr. will inform him of the poll - he disdains polls anyway, just like anything else remotely democratic...

I prefer to think of it as descending through...

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peaceful easy feeling @ 95:

xoites defends Constitution @ 81:

peaceful easy feeling @ 80:

xoites defends Constitution @ 53:

Exactly.

In the words of a former member of the Weather Underground, who years later had finally wised up, "We cherished hate as a badge of moral superiority and you can't build a movement on hate."

No, you can't. They accidently killed some people too. They did not, as far as i can tell, mean to, but those folks are just as dead.

I've wondered about what happened at Kent State, too, whether the Ohio guard really meant to shoot those students.

They did. i saw the video. The commander ordered them to load up with live ammo, he ordered them to fire and at least two National Guardsmen targeted a guy with a big peace sign on the back of his jacket.

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After yesterdays ambush of Texas state Sen. Watson, Tweety has US. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D - MO) on Hardball today to ask the same question about Sen. Obama's record.
Tweety Round2

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doubting Thomas @ 98:

Proud2bHumble @ 75:

doubting Thomas @ 73:

Proud2bHumble @ 66:

TWA 800

R.I.P.

You left off the last 'T'. I'm sorry your vibrator died...

I told you to put new batteries in it after you were done with it. You forgot to clean it too. You make such messes.

(hehe)

What can I say? I'm a guy. (eeww haha)

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americangoy @ 96:

By the by, Bush's approval ratings are now hovering around 19%....

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Not that it helps us, the Iraqis or the rest of the world, and it's not like the people around bush jr. will inform him of the poll - he disdains polls anyway, just like anything else remotely democratic...

He just beat Nixon. I'll be damned.

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Bill Moyers did a really good piece on Kent State about 20 or so years ago.

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This who freedom thing, this five day work week we used to have?

People died for that.

We let it go.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

This who freedom thing, this five day work week we used to have?

People died for that.

We let it go.

What do you think happened, bro?

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xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

peaceful easy feeling @ 95:

xoites defends Constitution @ 81:

peaceful easy feeling @ 80:

No, you can't. They accidently killed some people too. They did not, as far as i can tell, mean to, but those folks are just as dead.

I've wondered about what happened at Kent State, too, whether the Ohio guard really meant to shoot those students.

They did. i saw the video. The commander ordered them to load up with live ammo, he ordered them to fire and at least two National Guardsmen targeted a guy with a big peace sign on the back of his jacket.

I listened to the audio which Alan Canfora recently discovered, dozens of times, and still couldn't clearly make out the order to fire.

http://alancanfora.com/

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Proud2bHumble @ 106:

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

This who freedom thing, this five day work week we used to have?

People died for that.

We let it go.

What do you think happened, bro?

MTV, video games, American Idol, O.J. Simpson, Britney Spears, Monica Lewinsky.

Anything to distract us from the issues of the day and changing our educational system from one that taught students to think (which really caused problems in the 1960's and 1970's) into a system that taught students to make money.

How is that working out, America?

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peaceful easy feeling @ 107:

xoites defends Constitution @ 100:

peaceful easy feeling @ 95:

xoites defends Constitution @ 81:

I've wondered about what happened at Kent State, too, whether the Ohio guard really meant to shoot those students.

They did. i saw the video. The commander ordered them to load up with live ammo, he ordered them to fire and at least two National Guardsmen targeted a guy with a big peace sign on the back of his jacket.

I listened to the audio which Alan Canfora recently discovered, dozens of times, and still couldn't clearly make out the order to fire.

http://alancanfora.com/

I have watched recreations with video and i can assure you that the commander could have sneezed and those troops would have fired. He had them fired up.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 108:

Proud2bHumble @ 106:

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

This who freedom thing, this five day work week we used to have?

People died for that.

We let it go.

What do you think happened, bro?

MTV, video games, American Idol, O.J. Simpson, Britney Spears, Monica Lewinsky.

Anything to distract us from the issues of the day and changing our educational system from one that taught students to think (which really caused problems in the 1960's and 1970's) into a system that taught students to make money.

How is that working out, America?

Great for the few, shitty for the many. How few are the few and how organized/coordinated do you think they are? Or is it more of a confluence of loose alliances and cyclic economic/political/social awareness? Or?

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CheezeBox @ 11:

Why support the troops if you're against the war? Seriously, those soldiers are adults and are knowingly committing a crime against humanity. No, I will *not* support the troops.

I visit C&L on a daily basis and I love reading the comments. While I usually don't post unless I know that part of a story is wrong first hand or have some other fact based "something" to contribute,....Damn it cheezbox, you pissed me off good and now you get my opinion.
I don't give two shits if you support me or anybody else. That being said, your assertion that we "adults" are committing crimes against humanity strikes me as a very un-thought-out, self-riteuous, smug, flat out shitty thing to say. Believe it or not some of us joined even before 9/11. Yes alot of shit has happened that i never would have dreamed of and it fucking sucks. If I "act according to my concience" before Jun 2012, I get to go to Leavenworth and try to explain to my 2 year old son why his dad is away through 1 inch thick glass. As far as cocientous objector status? My best friend has been in the process for TWO YEARS while they repeatedly "lose his paperwork." Mike Wallace wants to do a story on him but he refused so as not to make his life any worse than it is (which couldn't be that much).
Here's the reality cheezbox: The military is made up of all different kinds of people- just like the rest of the country.
There are some sadistic assholes that "just want to kill ragheads"-just like the rest of the country
There are those who have changed their minds, been disillusioned and are against the war- just like the rest of the country
You may as well say that Americans are commiting crimes against humanity because "we" Elected bush. What? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, it doesn't make sense to me to submit myself to the Hague for joining up in 1998.
Yes, I have killed. I fucking hate that fact. I wish it never happened and it literally tears me apart inside when I can't stop thinking about it, which is often. If I had the moment to do over- I'd still do it. The men I killed were attacking my own countrymen and while I am fully aware that those men were fathers, brothers, sons, etc., so are the men they were trying to kill as well. Men who joined because they wanted to serve their country, or wanted money for college or maybe to follow their fathers footsteps. Men just like you, just like me, just like Xoites and everyone else here. If i'm a warcriminal then we all are. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of pacifism with you-i'm still to pissed to make a logical argument. All i can really say is that i think what you have been saying is Bullshit and that i hope that you rethink your convictions.

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Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 112:

CheezeBox @ 11:

Why support the troops if you're against the war? Seriously, those soldiers are adults and are knowingly committing a crime against humanity. No, I will *not* support the troops.

I visit C&L on a daily basis and I love reading the comments. While I usually don't post unless I know that part of a story is wrong first hand or have some other fact based "something" to contribute,....Damn it cheezbox, you pissed me off good and now you get my opinion.
I don't give two shits if you support me or anybody else. That being said, your assertion that we "adults" are committing crimes against humanity strikes me as a very un-thought-out, self-riteuous, smug, flat out shitty thing to say. Believe it or not some of us joined even before 9/11. Yes alot of shit has happened that i never would have dreamed of and it fucking sucks. If I "act according to my concience" before Jun 2012, I get to go to Leavenworth and try to explain to my 2 year old son why his dad is away through 1 inch thick glass. As far as cocientous objector status? My best friend has been in the process for TWO YEARS while they repeatedly "lose his paperwork." Mike Wallace wants to do a story on him but he refused so as not to make his life any worse than it is (which couldn't be that much).
Here's the reality cheezbox: The military is made up of all different kinds of people- just like the rest of the country.
There are some sadistic assholes that "just want to kill ragheads"-just like the rest of the country
There are those who have changed their minds, been disillusioned and are against the war- just like the rest of the country
You may as well say that Americans are commiting crimes against humanity because "we" Elected bush. What? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, it doesn't make sense to me to submit myself to the Hague for joining up in 1998.
Yes, I have killed. I fucking hate that fact. I wish it never happened and it literally tears me apart inside when I can't stop thinking about it, which is often. If I had the moment to do over- I'd still do it. The men I killed were attacking my own countrymen and while I am fully aware that those men were fathers, brothers, sons, etc., so are the men they were trying to kill as well. Men who joined because they wanted to serve their country, or wanted money for college or maybe to follow their fathers footsteps. Men just like you, just like me, just like Xoites and everyone else here. If i'm a warcriminal then we all are. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of pacifism with you-i'm still to pissed to make a logical argument. All i can really say is that i think what you have been saying is Bullshit and that i hope that you rethink your convictions.

Thank you. I could have never said it better than you even though i tried.

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Thanks Xoites, that means alot coming from you. I don't always agree with your posts but I repect you. Which is more than I can say for cheezbox (still so pissed)

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Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 114:

Thanks Xoites, that means alot coming from you. I don't always agree with your posts but I repect you. Which is more than I can say for cheezbox (still so pissed)

You humble me.

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Do me a big favor and come home alive.

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Ok, that sounded pretty fucking trite. Listen, i can understand why anybody would disagree with me. I am an opinionated mother fucker. Sometimes i actually do know what i am talking about. I do know one thing. There are as many assholes in any group of people as there are people who care. You care and i care. Many do. most would if they just started opening their eyes. My email address is xoites@gmail.com if you ever need to vent, Nogahdz Noughmasters.

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No worries, I'm currently home (for now). I appreciate the sentiment and will pass it along to my friend who is not.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 113:

Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 112:

CheezeBox @ 11:

Why support the troops if you're against the war? Seriously, those soldiers are adults and are knowingly committing a crime against humanity. No, I will *not* support the troops.

I visit C&L on a daily basis and I love reading the comments. While I usually don't post unless I know that part of a story is wrong first hand or have some other fact based "something" to contribute,....Damn it cheezbox, you pissed me off good and now you get my opinion.
I don't give two shits if you support me or anybody else. That being said, your assertion that we "adults" are committing crimes against humanity strikes me as a very un-thought-out, self-riteuous, smug, flat out shitty thing to say. Believe it or not some of us joined even before 9/11. Yes alot of shit has happened that i never would have dreamed of and it fucking sucks. If I "act according to my concience" before Jun 2012, I get to go to Leavenworth and try to explain to my 2 year old son why his dad is away through 1 inch thick glass. As far as cocientous objector status? My best friend has been in the process for TWO YEARS while they repeatedly "lose his paperwork." Mike Wallace wants to do a story on him but he refused so as not to make his life any worse than it is (which couldn't be that much).
Here's the reality cheezbox: The military is made up of all different kinds of people- just like the rest of the country.
There are some sadistic assholes that "just want to kill ragheads"-just like the rest of the country
There are those who have changed their minds, been disillusioned and are against the war- just like the rest of the country
You may as well say that Americans are commiting crimes against humanity because "we" Elected bush. What? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, it doesn't make sense to me to submit myself to the Hague for joining up in 1998.
Yes, I have killed. I fucking hate that fact. I wish it never happened and it literally tears me apart inside when I can't stop thinking about it, which is often. If I had the moment to do over- I'd still do it. The men I killed were attacking my own countrymen and while I am fully aware that those men were fathers, brothers, sons, etc., so are the men they were trying to kill as well. Men who joined because they wanted to serve their country, or wanted money for college or maybe to follow their fathers footsteps. Men just like you, just like me, just like Xoites and everyone else here. If i'm a warcriminal then we all are. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of pacifism with you-i'm still to pissed to make a logical argument. All i can really say is that i think what you have been saying is Bullshit and that i hope that you rethink your convictions.

Thank you. I could have never said it better than you even though i tried.

Ditto

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xoites defends Constitution @ 117:

Ok, that sounded pretty fucking trite. Listen, i can understand why anybody would disagree with me. I am an opinionated mother fucker. Sometimes i actually do know what i am talking about. I do know one thing. There are as many assholes in any group of people as there are people who care. You care and i care. Many do. most would if they just started opening their eyes. My email address is xoites@gmail.com if you ever need to vent, Nogahdz Noughmasters.

Thanks, I will take you up on that. Hope you don't get spammed for posting your email on a comments board.

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Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 120:

xoites defends Constitution @ 117:

Ok, that sounded pretty fucking trite. Listen, i can understand why anybody would disagree with me. I am an opinionated mother fucker. Sometimes i actually do know what i am talking about. I do know one thing. There are as many assholes in any group of people as there are people who care. You care and i care. Many do. most would if they just started opening their eyes. My email address is xoites@gmail.com if you ever need to vent, Nogahdz Noughmasters.

Thanks, I will take you up on that. Hope you don't get spammed for posting your email on a comments board.

I really don't care about that. i prefer being reachable.

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Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 120:

xoites defends Constitution @ 117:

Ok, that sounded pretty fucking trite. Listen, i can understand why anybody would disagree with me. I am an opinionated mother fucker. Sometimes i actually do know what i am talking about. I do know one thing. There are as many assholes in any group of people as there are people who care. You care and i care. Many do. most would if they just started opening their eyes. My email address is xoites@gmail.com if you ever need to vent, Nogahdz Noughmasters.

Thanks, I will take you up on that. Hope you don't get spammed for posting your email on a comments board.

I'm spamming him right now.

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Proud2bHumble @ 122:

Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 120:

xoites defends Constitution @ 117:

Ok, that sounded pretty fucking trite. Listen, i can understand why anybody would disagree with me. I am an opinionated mother fucker. Sometimes i actually do know what i am talking about. I do know one thing. There are as many assholes in any group of people as there are people who care. You care and i care. Many do. most would if they just started opening their eyes. My email address is xoites@gmail.com if you ever need to vent, Nogahdz Noughmasters.

Thanks, I will take you up on that. Hope you don't get spammed for posting your email on a comments board.

I'm spamming him right now.

Personally, i wish you would start emailing me too.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 123:

Proud2bHumble @ 122:

Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 120:

xoites defends Constitution @ 117:
Thanks, I will take you up on that. Hope you don't get spammed for posting your email on a comments board.

I'm spamming him right now.

Personally, i wish you would start emailing me too.

Sweet! Expect title 2bHumble next few days (8-D))))

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Another "exile" group lies about Iran and WMDs. A Wal-Mart employee learns a lesson in tolerance.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 47:
But you sit here in judgement of them while you act as a coward.

Sorry. Know it's 100 back, but I just really liked that.

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Proud2bHumble @ 124:

xoites defends Constitution @ 123:

Proud2bHumble @ 122:

Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 120:
I'm spamming him right now.

Personally, i wish you would start emailing me too.

Sweet! Expect title 2bHumble next few days (8-D))))

Thank you, good people are difficult to cultivate even though they are all around us.

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Will also reference other stuff to be sure...

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xoites defends Constitution @ 127:

Proud2bHumble @ 124:

xoites defends Constitution @ 123:

Proud2bHumble @ 122:

Personally, i wish you would start emailing me too.

Sweet! Expect title 2bHumble next few days (8-D))))

Thank you, good people are difficult to cultivate even though they are all around us.

Don't desparagus. This is not the first time someone's called me a vegetable.

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AshWilliams @ 126:

xoites defends Constitution @ 47:
But you sit here in judgement of them while you act as a coward.

Sorry. Know it's 100 back, but I just really liked that.

Thank you, it is hard for anyone to stand up (myself included) i am in no position to complain about anyone else who has not.

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Proud2bHumble @ 129:

xoites defends Constitution @ 127:

Proud2bHumble @ 124:

xoites defends Constitution @ 123:
Sweet! Expect title 2bHumble next few days (8-D))))

Thank you, good people are difficult to cultivate even though they are all around us.

Don't desparagus. This is not the first time someone's called me a vegetable.

Puns can get you dead.

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:)

:)

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punicide?

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Proud2bHumble @ 133:

punicide?

Stop puntificating and get serious!

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Here is a very serious question.

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Nothin' but love, x. (:-p)

Jus' hangin' roun' 'til 12:01 to post Weds McList contributions, then I'll be out.

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Who wants to risk doing 5 to 10 years in jail doing a non violent act against war and injustice?

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xoites defends Constitution @ 135:

Here is a very serious question.

Yes it is. Are we really? Or are we constructs in a matrix? Or both? Is there really a here, here? Hear hear!

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xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

Who wants to risk doing 5 to 10 years in jail doing a non violent act against war and injustice?

More of an email conversation for someone who would be, I would think.

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I know several people who have risked it. I know several people who have done the time.

Are you ready?

I am not fucking ready.

If you are, better think it through (please don't tell me about it) just think about what it means.

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Proud2bHumble @ 139:

xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

Who wants to risk doing 5 to 10 years in jail doing a non violent act against war and injustice?

More of an email conversation for someone who would be, I would think.

No! Fuck you!

It is not an email conversation! Not one i want to be part of.

If people want to do something on their own that is one thing.

Include me out!

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Here are some serious people who have done some serious actions.

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Wednesday's contributions to the McList of (currently 170) McPetNames(h/t Dr. Matt):

McGrandpa
McAssclown
McChimpy’sbidet
McJowls
McI'veFallenAndCan'tGetUp
McScary
McRedface
McWannabe
McMorewars
McAlzheimer's
McLeakeyoldass
McTerrible
McTemper
McIsGonnaBotchThisCampaignLikeBotchingIsGoingOutOfStyle
McDoesAnyoneReallyThinkMostOfTheseAreWittyBecauseISureAsHellKnowTheyArentCauseIAmNotLaughing
McBobDoleJr
McPoopypants
McPeckertracks
McDilatedrectalsphincter
McCrazamnesty
McIncompetent
McLover
McHornyoldgoat
McCock
McHorny
McPhilanderer
McBoner
McHornybastard
McViagra
McTicklethepickle
McSpankthelobbyist
McBoningtheblondie
McLickher
McNutJob
McMilfhunter
McDidher;didn’tI?!
McCheatin’
McBootycall

“Shorter lists are funnier” generally holds true, and very well may re the McList. C&L’ers are diverse and eclectic, and I’ve enjoyed many lols, LOLs, LOL!s and Ha ha’s here. I’m reluctant to exclude any McEntry, ’cause they’re all funny/pointed/cathartic to varying degrees, and the sheer length of the entire list (posted Tuesdays and Fridays) has a humorous quality of its own.
We are also generating denigrating McMemes, some of which may be useful, in a memie sort of way. The thuglicontards are very aware of the usefulness of denigrating memes, and it won’t hurt to put out a few of our own.
That being said, a Top 11, Dirty Dozen, etc. are considerations, for those (myself included, usually) who like things condensed to essentials.
Pile on, C&L'ers!

Will update at my convenience on pertinent threads.
8-D

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xoites defends Constitution @ 141:

Proud2bHumble @ 139:

xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

Who wants to risk doing 5 to 10 years in jail doing a non violent act against war and injustice?

More of an email conversation for someone who would be, I would think.

No! Fuck you!

It is not an email conversation! Not one i want to be part of.

If people want to do something on their own that is one thing.

Include me out!

No problem, bud. I understand. I'm gonna hafta pass on the sex offer though. :)

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Proud2bHumble @ 144:

xoites defends Constitution @ 141:

Proud2bHumble @ 139:

xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

More of an email conversation for someone who would be, I would think.

No! Fuck you!

It is not an email conversation! Not one i want to be part of.

If people want to do something on their own that is one thing.

Include me out!

No problem, bud. I understand. I'm gonna hafta pass on the sex offer though. :)

But online sex is safe, no STD! You won't miss it if you never catch it! LOL :)

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Orangutan. @ 21:

This from the party that brags about Family Values...
http://www.armchairsubversive.org

OMG. What a bunch pervs.

Listening to the actual phone profile of one of these pervs is very interesting. Another wanted to pay 20 bucks to blow a stranger.

The child molesters are the absolute pit, may they fried in hell.

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tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 146:

Orangutan. @ 21:

This from the party that brags about Family Values...
http://www.armchairsubversive.org

OMG. What a bunch pervs.

Listening to the actual phone profile of one of these pervs is very interesting. Another wanted to pay 20 bucks to blow a stranger.

The child molesters are the absolute pit, may they fried in hell.

We have a nice new George Foreman electric indoor/outdoor grill. Will that do?

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Just finished catching up on the posts that were made while i typed my tirade against cheezbox (I type painfully slow). Alot of my points were made by others and that makes me feel good. Thanks guys. I'm going to watch a little inspiration and go to bed. Good night fellas.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 145:

Proud2bHumble @ 144:

xoites defends Constitution @ 141:

Proud2bHumble @ 139:

No! Fuck you!

It is not an email conversation! Not one i want to be part of.

If people want to do something on their own that is one thing.

Include me out!

No problem, bud. I understand. I'm gonna hafta pass on the sex offer though. :)

But online sex is safe, no STD! You won't miss it if you never catch it! LOL :)

Yeah, but we're both flaming hetero's and the group thing doesn't really appeal to me either. I definitely don't want a Platonic relationship with a man. ;-) lol

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Nogahdz Noughmasters @ 148:

Just finished catching up on the posts that were made while i typed my tirade against cheezbox (I type painfully slow). Alot of my points were made by others and that makes me feel good. Thanks guys. I'm going to watch a little inspiration and go to bed. Good night fellas.

Obviously you and i go about achieving the same ends by different means.

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