'Real Time' Mash up: Attacking Obama with a Kingston and a Frum
Friday night's Real Time with Bill Maher was a riveting display of the dishonest attacks on Barack Obama by the wingnut paparazzi. Rep. Jack Kingston is in his usual wanker form and brings out the most ludicrous talking points to lead the way.
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Kingston promotes the false wingnut position that Obama won't say the pledge of allegiance and refuses to wear his American flag lapel pin. Funny, I didn't see Kingston wearing a pin either. He must hate America too.
Heather makes a few observations:
Frum justifies McCain's back peddling on torture as a practical solution on dealing with terrorists. Taibbi calls him out and asks what does that tell you about that wing of your party if we can't even take a stand against the Spanish Inquisition.
Kingston is lying about what Michelle Obama said. She did come out and clarify her statements later and he's ignoring that.
Kingston saying Obama is applying for the "number one cheer leading slot for United States of America". So the President's job is to cheer lead?
Kingston says Obama still wants to bomb Pakistan. He ignores that Bush said the same thing about going after Bin Laden if an exact location was known .
Taibbi on McCain and how he wants to do more bombing and how his idiot civilian commanders wouldn't let him bomb more targets during Vietnam. He's continued to say we've never done enough air strikes in any conflict we've been in and lists them. Kingston says it means he wants to win the war and bring the guys home.
Frum says Obama goes off on these "windy cascades" where people look to politics to transform their lives rather than to actually run the country. The candidate he's more sympathetic to is Clinton and that people will go back later after I guess Obama has destroyed the country. Obama thinks there's a special magic that comes from a Presidential meeting and has a great over estimation about the power of his own personality and he's been drinking his own bath water.
This next election is the ultimate test to see if the United States intends to progress and lead or continue it's slink back into the Dark Ages and irrelevancy. If McCain is elected, we are absolutely and irrevocably done. It will then be too late to fix it in 2012.
i watched this, and about lost my cool...
maher really, really should wait till AFTER the show to get stoned...
he let those guys get away with too many LIES...
and matt taibbi wasn't much help either...
everything out of kingston's mouth was winger playbook crap...
I have never seen Kingston before and watched the show last night. He is, hands down, one of the biggest dolts that I have ever seen. He throws out discredited talking point after talking point and then can't even continue on if the slightest question is asked. I was truly embarrassed for him. I don't care what party you belong to or what your political beliefs are, there is no way that anyone could view this person as remotely capable of doing anything. This man is the nut in wingnut.
sinclairs claims about obama are false!
Too bad Rachel Maddow wasn't the female sitting in the center seat. She most certainly would've challenged the crap from Frum and especially that idiot Kingston. I guess Maher isn't as informed as we would like him to be about the wingnut bullshit that floats around as fact out there. Very frustrating to watch this go down on Real Time.
What bill did Kingston Pass? I hope he is not the same people that build Kingston memory, because his memory is terrible!
Maher really phoned in this episode.
"Kingston promotes the false wingnut position that Obama won’t say the pledge of allegiance and refuses to wear his American flag lapel pin. Funny, I didn’t see Kingston wearing a pin either. He must hate America too."
Funny, I noticed the very same thing. Let's whine about someone not wearing a certain pin, especially a man as men always wear pins, while not wearing the same pin about which you are whining. I was surprised that Bill didn't bring that up as it was so obvious.
That Kingston was a complete twat, if the is anyone unpatriotic it is fuckwits like him who put their party ahead of the country. I have seen some false politicians but he is one of the worst.
I was very dissapointed with Bill Maher on friday, he should do his research a bit better.
Hmm, recently I have not been able to podcast Bill's show, as it is now unavailable to Canadians, but watching this compilation, I no longer think that I would want to anyways.
Check youtube..
He was called out during the overtime segment (online only).
My my my...all the time they attacked Hillary Clinton there was no articles about it, but when wonky wimpy pouty boy gets attacked all the bloggers cry for him. Can't pouty boy take up for himself.
paranoia @ 6:
That was another comment that should have been jumped on. What bill did Bush ever pass? What bill did Reagan ever pass? What bill did Daddie Bush ever pass? Romney? Guiliani?
If passing a bill is somehow a pre-qualifier for being President, Kingston's own logic creates a few problems. He was for Huckabee as I recall, no bills passed. It is sad to watch a fool use logic that thereby disqualifies the candidate that he was backing, yet somehow think that he is making sense.
I love how the crowd laughed when Kingston said "If you want to see change, vote for McCain!" LOL! Can I have some of your marijuana cookies, Kingston?
and that is why maher is an asshat
he continually allows guest to speak bullshit without an answer
its cuz he is fucking ignorant of the truth himself
idiot
the established and entrenched politicians in wash dc do not
want obama as president. the corporations do not want
obama as president. the fascists repugs do not want
obama as president. why?
he actually may bring some real reform to washington dc
and give back the country to the people and not to the corporations
and banks running the country now.
the next time somebody says the "hussein" thing when talking about Obama, the whole discussion should stop and that person should be called on the carpet. The veiled racism and bigotry in that is amazing...and I can't believe anybody hasn't gone totally ape-shit after hearing it..
kiva
And Bill Maher, whether he means to or not, gives these mentaly deficient people credence by allowing them on his show. Maher makes himself irrelevent this way.
Here is the overtime segment if anyone missed it after watching the show on HBO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43WoD8b0We8
There is something seriously wrong with the liberal blogosphere when it takes two days for people to notice these things and even then no one suggests doing anything about it. Where's the calls for a public apology or correction from Jack Kingston? For that matter, where's the rebuttals? I see a lot of bloggers linking to this story but not a lot actually contradicting it other than to say that it's wrong. This puzzles me and seems counterproductive. All you're doing is giving these untruths more publicity without disputing, point by point, their veracity.
For instance:
*His statement that Michelle Obama never explained her comments is a lie. She did so the next day, as reported in the LA TIMES:
"On Wednesday, according to the Associated Press, she clarified her Monday remarks in an interview with a Rhode Island TV station. "What I was clearly talking about was that I'm proud in how Americans are engaging in the political process," she said. "For the first time in my lifetime, I'm seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven't seen and really trying to figure this out -- and that's the source of pride that I was talking about."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-michelleobama21feb21,0,506149...
*His statement on Barack not pledging allegiance to the flag is factually untrue because, as he knows, all members of congress pledge allegiance following the chaplain's prayer when the day's session begins:
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Sessions/Traditions/Pledge_Allegiance.htm
Barack has pointed this out several times. He pledges allegiance every day that he's in the senate. Not one senator has ever stepped up to dispute this or say that they witnessed Obama refusing to do the pledge.
You could go on and on.
Contact Jack Kingston and ask that he correct his statements: (202) 225-5831
Bill Maher is a tool.
Two major assholes. I apologize on behalf of all Canadians that Frum was spawned in Canada. He is despicable. As he is Canadian, he's obviously just in it for the money, not to "protect the homeland". Think about it.
In fairness, if you watch Overtime, on the net, there is more rebuttal. This clip is edited.
Terrible @ 18:
no prob with him having them on his show....but answer up their lies
he sits there like a fucking idiot
and mccain's global warming bill is a fucking joke....but maher sits there nodding his head
dickwad whore monger
I was pissed at Bill Maher. Why let conservatives use his show to spread their lying propaganda, unchallenged, like Kingston's lie about Obama? They control virtually all news and entertainment media. The don't need Real Time too. Throw us a bone, Maher.
I missed the show, but I have had the misfortune to hear that whining idiot Kingston. I have been aware of this reedy-voiced maggot for about 4-5 years. I'm on blood pressure medicine, but this asshole might cause me to blow a gasket. Kingston is a perfect example of the foolishness of the "wave of democracy spreading through the middle east." Democracy is already here in the US and it has brought to power dangerous simpletons like Kingston. Could the middle east stand a flock of idiots like him?
Yes, and much agree with posts excoriating Maher. The guy is too smug by far and he's really screwed the pooch this time.
If Kingston thinks either Clinton or Obama is getting a free ride from everyone on the left he should drop around here. Some days it gets downright toxic.
CNN poll up now:
Quick Vote
Does Barack Obama show the proper patriotism for someone who wants to be president of the United States?
http://www.cnn.com/
on the right side - about 2/3 of the way down.
Hey John,
I was at the HP and there is some kind of zombie attack going on .
I think it is using Digg somehow and posting major amounts comments.
Marge @ 12:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you support Hillary cuz you are a paid shill. Now would pouty boy be McCain?
Kinda strange to see these kind of attacks on Obama.
Usually it's only Hillary that gets treated like that.
memyself @ 28:
Does Barack Obama show the proper patriotism for someone who wants to be president of the United States?
Yes 63% 32722
No 37% 18978
memyself @ 28:
WTF CNN!! The fact that they even asking this question makes me sick.
Kingston and Frum occasionally looked uncomfortable as they spewed their lies (body language indicated they know they're full of it). There was far too much talking over each other (more than usual in fact) and Maher did a poor job taking them to task. It was also ironic the way Maher took the election thefts as a given yet still buys into the official 9/11 narrative.
Edwin @ 22:
Frum isn't just Canadian. He's American too. That said, we don't want that piece of crud back.
ConcernedCanuck @ 30:
Hillary has paid shills? Where do I sign up?
Cuz I've been doing it for free all this time, hoping to get the most qualified candidate elected.
Thanks to clowns like Kingston and Frum, Cuba does have a superior health care system to ours and a lower infant death rate.
If the privatized health care system could solve the problem of so many Americans having no access to health care, they would have done it already. Nothings stopping them other than the fact they have a financial incentive to limit it and garner as much profit out of it as the market will bare.
myiq2xu @ 31:
are you fucking kidding?
the email that says hes a muslin, the vid alledgedly showing him refusing to do the pledge, the stories about his church....shall i go on?
memyself @ 28:
"proper patriotism"? WTF?
One could well argue that "proper patriotism" would require a President to meet the returning flag-draped coffins of fallen soldiers and publicly acknowledge both their service and their sacrifice. Yet...I notice that photo-ops of that nature are conspicuous by their absence. Or that "proper patriotism" requires public servants to make good on their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution. Or that "proper patriotism" requires defending the burning of the flag as protected speech under the First Amendment. Or that "proper patriotism" has nothing to do with pins and flags and pledges and anthems and other disposable, transitory symbols.
(Besides, I'm holding out for dumping that recycled beer-hall tune in favor of Ray Charles' "America" -- not only does it have soul, but it can be sung by ordinary people.)
myiq2xu @ 36:
If that was the case, you wouldn't be shilling for Hillary, or Obama, or McCain. Please, none are the most qualified. If you haven't read "Marge's" posts, they are usually nothing but little hissy fits on how poor Hillary never gets a fair share, but that darn black guy gets all the breaks. It's borderline childish. Don't join the chorus. If you support someone show where they will be different. Show where they are worth the vote. Don't do negative crap. One of these two is GOING TO BE YOUR CANDIDATE. Driving supporters away will LOSE THE ELECTION.
Oh how I long for the day when the Hill-Trolls stop battling with the Bama-Nerds . .
MaxPower @ 7:
Didn't watch but if this is true then Maher needs to get the fuck off the air. This election is simply too important to allow GOP water carriers to spout off previously dismissed talking points and not be challenged on them. I used to like that show and thought Maher was mostly right on. Maybe he figures he needs to bring some balance to the show. If so, I go back to my earlier statement. GET THE FUCK OFF THE AIR.
OT ~ The Prosecution Of Governor Siegelman from 60 Minutes.
Is Don Siegelman in prison because he’s a criminal or because he belonged to the wrong political party in Alabama? Siegelman is the former governor of Alabama, and he was the most successful Democrat in that Republican state. But while he was governor, the U.S. Justice Department launched multiple investigations that went on year after year until, finally, a jury convicted Siegelman of bribery.
Now, many Democrats and Republicans have become suspicious of the Justice Department’s motivations. 52 former state attorneys-general have asked Congress to investigate whether the prosecution of Siegelman was pursued not because of a crime but because of politics.
Rich Kulawiec @ 39:
No, no, no, you wear a pin instead. A Made in China pin on the lapel makes up for all that you listed above. The rest sounds far too much like work.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 38:
Yes, tell me more. I don't watch FAUX News or surf Right Blogistan. What else has Obama done?
leftminded @ 42:
Perhaps you could be less dramatic and just watch something else.
Rich Kulawiec @ 39:
Well said, Rich! Kudos!
ConcernedCanuck @ 40:
Hillary is the best candidate still on the ballot.
myiq2xu @ 48:
According to you and Marge. According to the last 11 Primaries, the rest of the population says not.
myiq2xu @ 48:
I was wondering, and this isn't being snarky, who was the last candidate to lose 10 straight states and win the nomination? I mean, has it happened before?
Scy @ 1:
Do we want to live in a country that is run by the asshole Jack Kingstons of the world, or the Obamas of the world?
THAT'S WHAT THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT, KINGSTON!
IT'S ABOUT YOU!
!$#%^%@#^@$#
myiq2xu @ 48:
When did people lose all sense of tact and become so full of themselves? I learned as a child that my opinion simply was not fact. Many, apparently missed that lesson. Why not try something less arrogant like:
In my opinion, Hilliary is the best candidate still on the ballot.
I think, that Obama is the best candidate still on the ballot.
I believe, that XXX is the best candidate on the ballot.
katy @ 2:
Well, I dont get angry anymore....maybe a little bit animated. But....the show is not watched by GOP-ers.....no matter who is on the show.
The audience is liberal....and maybe independents watch it.....but the entire audience is fully aware of the stupidity of its right wing guests.
Its a very good ploy by Maher to get people to stay active and angry......otherwise they go back to being like the Democrats in Congress.....heads up their ass.
ConcernedCanuck @ 49:
According to the voters in 10 small-to-medium, mostly red states.
myiq2xu @ 54:
LOL, what does being in a red state have to do with the results in a Democratic Primary?
myiq2xu @ 31:
How long have you been asleep?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802240002?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220013?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220012?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220011?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220009?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220007?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210012?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210011?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210009?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210007?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210006?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210004?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802210003?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802200008?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802200005?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802200003?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802190007?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802190002?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150018?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150017?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150002?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150001?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140017?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140016?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140009?f=s_search
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130016?f=s_search
There's more, much more. Try crawling out from under that rock you're hiding under. Any Democrat who threatens Republican power will be the object of derision and smears from the Republican lapdog Corporate Media. Wake up!
Ahh, this clip reminds me of the old days of ought-four...I need another beer.
ashton @ 52:
When the right wing idiots caught on to the Internet.
Just let Matt Taibbi run the show Bill. He's the only person whose shown any balls on Real Time in the last few weeks. He's had Frank Luntz on TWICE this season alone and continues to call him "my good friend Frank." Bill is losing my respect on a weekly basis.
Definitely Mahers worst season he seems about half there at best most of the time, A few weeks ago Richard Belzer called Reagan the second worst president in history and Maher had to ask him who was the worst , unbelievable , Richard said who the hell do you think . Kingston and Frum a redneck to the core and a Canadian neither one of them could buy a clue . Funny how they both backed losers but now Mclame is their man I love it.......
zzZZzzz yeah yeah, these wingnuts are fucking boring. No one should be offended by this predictable horseshit.
He's a muslim , B Hussein, he's not patriotic , blah blah. Frum and Kingston are just spoon feeding their base with this defecation. Everyone else sees right through it. Maher doesn't have to say anything. These assholes speak for themselves.
ashton @ 55:
Blue states are most likely to be proggressive states and therefore are the backbone of this nation. Red states however are where miracles do happen. They require more subsidies from the blue states so they could fund their churches.
My head exploded about half way through - could Jack Kingston be more of an asshole? Thank goodness for Matt Taibbi.
Y'know, I may be one of the few remaining people who thinks an Obama-Clinton ticket would not only unify the party, would not only win in November, but would be good for the country. They're obviously both highly intelligent people; they both bring substantial (but different) experience; their policies are in most cases sufficiently similar that compromise is possible; and they're both capable of leading.
Okay, everyone can stop bashing each other and pile on me now. ;-)
But it really does pain me to see the internecine strife that's going on within the Democratic party. This needs to end, and soon, so that the task of ensuring a landslide victory in November over McCain can begin. (And I want a landslide -- something well beyond question -- because I don't want this election decided by voting machine manufacturers or courts. I also want it because of the downticket impact it will generate.)
I watched the Real Time Overtime clip on YouTube. That was pretty fucking lame. What was up with Maher? He pretty much kept nodding his head and agreeing with just about every other word that came out of that hillbilly turd Kingston's mouth. By the way, what makes David Frum an expert on anything? Isn't his claim to fame that he put the "Axis of Evil" bit in Chimpy's speech way back in '02. He's a one hit wonder, yet he's trotted out like he's got some profound insight into the political arena. In reality, he's a barely competent wordsmith. I don't know who the chick was, but she was nothing but invisible (a poster above said Rachel Maddow should have been in that seat. I couldn't agree more). Even Matt Taibbi - who really kicks ass in his "Rolling Stone" columns was phoning it in.
Obama is getting the RW and corporate media attacks like Clinton was as the front runner.
Now she is piling on.
There are testing him to see if he will fight back or they will run over him.
Steven @ 61:
But what does this have to do with the results in a Democratic Primary?
I make a point to watch this show every Friday because it's the only place where liberals get to speak their mind. Unfortunately, the last show was a forum for right-wing smears that weren 't challenged. If Maher really does want Obama to win (as he has stated on the show), then he needs to get with the game and be prepared to counter lies about Obama.
The worst of Kingston was when he said Hussein. Sure it is his middle name, and there's nothing wrong with that. But the unanswered racism that he was promoting is so sad to see on American media. If Obama's middle name was "Israel" would he throw that out just to score some cheap points from anti-semitic Americans?
jwazzz @ 62:
I totally agree, when he said to Tony Snow "I wouldn't beleive you guys to tell me the fucking time!", I just lost it. Keep it up Matt!
BIGBONEDED @ 59:
It's great whenever Richard Belzer is on as a guest. Personally, I think he'd be great with his own talk show either on cable or radio.
I can't stand Frum or Kingston. Frum is a major shill, and Kingston definitely has those talking points down. I taped the show, so ended up fast forwarding through most of it. Couldn't stand listening to them. They were definitely doing a major hit piece on Obama.
Viewers weren't fooled, as the blog at the Bill Maher show website illustrates. And many called it correctly: Maher hadn;'t done his homework and let that lying sack of idiocy, Kingston, throw out at least three major lies without calling him on them. I've seen Kingston many times on the House floor (CSPAN) and this guy is either ignorant as hell or a deliberate liar. I think the latter, because it fits in perfectly with the fascist mindset of the Republican right-wing. But boos to Bill Maher.
Finally, a factoid about "red states" - Bill Moyers had a devastating segment on the use of earmarks in the Defense budget. Though the "stars" were a couple of Washington Dem congressmen, it was revealed that the leading earmarkers in the Senate and the House are both from Mississippi. A perfect example of how blue states taxes subsidize all sorts of things in many red states.
I was disappointed Bill Maher didn't take these goobers more to task for some of their ridiculous assertions. I guess it's not easy getting right wing nut jobs on his show, so he has to cut them some slack. All I can say is the Obama swift boating has begun, so the Dems better damn well be ready.
ashton @ 66:
Common sense, intelligence, and stupidity. I'm not against Obama or anything but Bush ran on a platform of change, unity and humility. Guess what that brought this nation to? Certainly Obama can't be compared with Bush but i'm talking about the voters. It's the same rhetoric here. If this nation does not have this huge set of problems for the next president to solve, i would certainly have campaigned for Obama. Unity comes from the house and the senate. Not the Presidency. If we win more than 2/3 majority of the legislature then we can talk about unity. I'm more concern with fixing the issues - healthcare, economy, war, environment. Results is what i'm looking for and results is what which is important for the blue states.
Well, I am having a good feeling that Obama will have a win in TX - For those who say Latinos would not vote for Obama, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fd-MVU4vtU
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0dMxqgS1-8
sorry if those were linked before on C&L.
The first point of the 14 Points of Fascism
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
This is why I won't wear a (probably made in China) flag lapel pin or put a flag sticker on my car
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
Swift boating is the least of the worries. From the Star-Telegram 2/21/2008 by Jack Douglas Jr., Staff Writer
DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena.
The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security.
Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 15:
I agree, Bill Maher is an asshat along with almost everyone else in the fucking media these days.
Scy @ 1:
We already are. We just go through these charlie brown and the football routines every election cycle.
Oberon @ 75:
You're right I've been keeping up with his activity in Texas and he has huge Latino support there. Thank God this race is almost over.
Rico @ 77:
Steven @ 74:
There was a question about this during the RealTime Overtime segment. That shithead David Frum just started babbling about how "there must be part of that story left out". Bill Maher, being incredibly fucking lame for some reason, pretty much told Frum "Well, yeah, gee, I guess you're right about that". I couldn't believe what I was watching. What part of that story is "missing", Bill? The United States Secret Service ordered the police to stop searching people entering a venue for a rally featuring America's first African American Presidential candidate - in fucking Dallas, no less!!! What details could possibly be "missing"?
gene214 @ 81:
How the fuck did the rest of that post get in there??
rickD @ 80:
The race for the Democratic nomination will be over. But then the battle for America's soul will begin.
Wow, how many lies per second was that?
Any time someone says that Obama hasn't introduced a bill, its not only bullshit because its not true, but its extra gulling because he introduced one of the best pieces of legislation from this congress.
He introduced (with Russ Feingold) an ethics reform bill on the first day of the current session:
http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/07/01/20070108.html
And did it strike anyone else as funny when Frum said McCain was going to do public financing?
gene214 @ 83:
That reminds me of the Gandalf quote: "The battle for Helm’s Deep is over. The battle for Middle-earth is about to begin."
Hah! LOTR geek here =P
Oberon @ 85:
First, why doesn't anyone challenge a Republican to wear a Constitution lapel pin ? You know, that thing that they've shredded and made irrelevant over the last seven years? Second, in Maher's O.T. segment they talk about the lax secret service attitude at Obama's Dallas rally . Frum plays it down but if Obama gets the nom , all the smearing in the world won't make people pick George W. McCain for president. This leaves two options for the right : fix the election (again) or take out the challenger . The next six months need to be watched deligently.
Scy @ 1:
I couldn't agree with you more.
Georgia must be proud tonight, to have someone as assinine as this bumpkin represent them in Congress.
I take a look at who represents people, and it tells me more than I want to know about the people. This guy is a real loser crackerspread. I hope Georgia can give him his walking papers soon. I can't think of a more pathetic example of smear, talking points and bullshit than I have seen from this idiot.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 23:
Deserves repeating. That's McCain-Lieberman, right? I think most of the commenters on here are more informed than Maher or the woman who just watched the whole time.
Too bad we aren't pretty enough for teevee.
gene214 @ 83:
The race won't be over until August when the superdelegates vote.
By then the Obamania fad will be over and he'll be the political equivilent of the "Achy -Breaky Heart."
...jack kingston saw his shadow for the first time, then screamed... don't know how the guy gets up every day, with 'extremists' lurking in every crack and crevice. senator obama just has to stay on message, which in itself will show how utterly obscene and absurd we've allowed this process to become-that lies scores points because some hateful buffoon paid for them.
Kingston's not so veiled racist "eat that white meat" remark did not go unnoticed either.
"...Also, Kingston was oddly excited about America's consumption of chicken, which he stated by saying something about the passing of a bill to study poultry diseases because they want us to eat that white meat --"
http://www.justjudithsays.com/2008/02/real-time-with-bill-maher-22208.html
Bill Maher was totally unprepared for these two liars, which is uncharacteristic of him, and very disappointing. Also, on the "Overtime" segment, Frum doubts the veracity of the report that security measures were dropped in Dallas before the rally. I was there last Wednesday. The line hardly moved for about 2 hours, then it started moving rapidly. We were practically running by the time we reached the arena doors, and I thought "Good Lord! They've stopped using the magnetometers!" We got to go right in, me with my pockets bulging with camera, film, and cell phone, and there were no security checks at all. There were no magnetometers set up, so the initial checks must have been done with wands. All of this took place at Reunion arena, about 6 blocks from where JFK was assasinated. Although I was happy to arrive in time to see Obama speak, now I really fear for his safety.
It was a Mash Up and didn't see the whole episode so I hope Maher did jump in to dispel the ignorance of these wing-nuts, lies, distortions, petty comments, this is their reality, I've never felt so comfortable giving up on and hating the right wing..
EOK2006 @ 95:
Maher did not refute the lies. In fact, he even contributed to them both implicitly AND blatantly. Unless I missed somthing, the overtime segment I saw online only talked about Kingston also not wearing a lapel pin.
Tony @ 94:
That's scary. Has there been any follow up on why this happened?
DALLAS, Feb. 21 (UPI) -- The Secret Service told Dallas police to stop screening for weapons while people were still arriving at a campaign rally for Barack Obama, a report said.
Police stopped checking people for weapons at the front gates of Reunion Arena more than an hour before the Democratic presidential hopeful appeared on stage Wednesday, the Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram reported.
Police said the order to stop using metal detectors and checking purses and laptop bags constituted a security lapse, the newspaper reported.
Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence -- who heads the department's homeland security and special operations divisions -- told the Star-Telegram the order had been intended to speed up seating of the more than 17,000 people who came to hear the candidate speak.
Lawrence said he was concerned about the large number of people being let in without being screened, but that the crowd seemed "friendly," the newspaper said.
Several Dallas police officers -- speaking on condition of anonymity because the order came from federal officers -- told the newspaper it was worrying to see so many people get it without even a cursory inspection.
The Star-Telegram said the Secret Service did not return a call seeking comment.
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Apparently all 20,000 of us looked "friendly" enough.
notice how the audience got quiet when stewart said "Barack Hussein Obama" and rhymed the last name with bin Laden and the middle to Saddam.
so who's gonna call the short guy on the carpet?
I think this was one of the weakest "Real Time" segments ever. Frum never shuts up and was left to spew total falsehoods. Kingston has been on before and was an idiot then. When I first saw him I thought Maher invited him back just to embarrass him, but he let him get away with total BS. The woman in the middle said about two words and might as well have stayed in the green room. The show was completely weak this time. I hope the panel improves.
That's REALLY scary.
"...the order came from federal officers..."????????
If these assholes have anything to do with my life, someone shoot me. I can't believe these two idiots can get booked at a County Fair.
kravitz @ 99:
I didn't like that one bit. It's looking more and more like a vast media conspiracy.
They do not want Obama, just like they didn't want Dean.
Barak= Lightweight, now is not the time for a kid on training wheels, were not trying to win the UN do gooder award here people..
Two assholes trying to see which one could produce the most shit.
The worst part is that Kingston is an elected representative. WTF?
Tony @ 98:
Well if Dallas isn't safe, no where is.
two dumb ass republicans that the rest of the nation will not listen to. Why? We have heard the same dumbass lines over and over and over from the Bush administration.
WTF!!!!!!!!
You know, I was going to vote for Obama, but now I realize, you guys are right. He's a lightweight. I mean, what has he done in the Senate (aside from Lugar-Obama; Coburn-Obama; Congo relief; diplomatic trips to Kenya; working for S-CHIP, weapons proliferation control, and Iran sanctions)? And, could he really handle the dirty, foul, below-the-belt smears and lies that the Republicans will be sure to throw at him if he is the nominee?
You're right. I'd better vote for Hillary or McCain, or better yet, just sit this one out.
As they say in England, lay back and think of the Queen.
How did Bill just sit there and not take a swing at those idiots? They didn't get challenged at all. Maybe the point was to illustrate how deranged they are.
myiq2xu @ 54:
You forgot to add "in hilly to mountainous terrain, in mostly cold weather climate, with average annual rainfall of less than 13 inches".
chris @ 104:
Look here Chris, your so called pro's have funked away 4000 American Fighting Brave lives, wounded TENS of THOUSANDS of American Troops, Killed HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS INNOCENT Iragi Civilians, and pissed THREE QUARTERS of a TRILLION DOLLARS to buy more oil for corporations that just made FORTY BILLION DOLLARS off your ass. Factor that when u bitch about paying$3.35 per gallon next time you fill up your comfy SUV.
Tell me Chris when was the last time you pulled a Tour of Duty and had your ass shot at you pussy. Tough talk, no walk. Barack is above your mental capabilities, so I will just shake my head and feel sorry for you. Leave it to the rest of us, my patrol will take care of your sorry ass. Think Dude, THINK!
katy @ 2:
mahers sprung a leak in his douchbag!
myiq2xu @ 91:
Negativity is all you spew. I was here around 6 PM tonight, went out for dinner, saw a movie and came home, checked my e-mail and logged on, only to still find you here. Someone said earlier that you're a Hillary shill and I have to agree with them. You're also pathetic as you've clearly no dignity.
That guy is a congressman? OMG we really are in trouble, any chance of him losing an election? Talking to people is bad mkay, bombing them is good, mkay. Changing enemies to friends with dialog is bad , changing them by killing them is good. If your name is funny you must be bad, if your skin is brown you must not be truly American, having lofty ideas and goals is bad. Starting preemptive wars, trampling the constitution, rigging elections, destroying e-mails, outing CIA operatives, forcing DA's to prosecute political rivals, fear mongering, and telling people to go shopping is good. Gotta love topsy turvey whiz bang fruitloop jollyplanet these whackos come from.
Rob @ 112:
Well, Dude, I never said I supported Bush, but China, Russia and Iran know they can't mess with us because Cheney will fuck you up. Furthermore, i did my few months in Iraq, had a close encounter, never said I agreed with that war either. Barak Obama does not understand realpolitik I'm talking survival of the fittest among states. So, Dude, I think you need to start thinking alittle more on the piratical side about the job of POTUS.....
PS. I don't drive an SUV, The president does not control oil prices and Exxon Mobile paid a shit load in taxes for your wel-fare state....
ashton @ 3:
Couldn't agree more. Someone drop a nuke on Georgia,... yes, I live here, & after being here for three years, being ground zero of a nuclear attack will be like a day at the beach,...
I am surprised that more of you haven't picked up and left America.
Tony @ 94:
uncharacteristic?
bill repeatedly lets wingnuts say bullshit...usually its the lib guests that show them up
plus i have heard maher say some of the most ignorant things on the air
he is not a good political satirist
good political satirists read the newspaper and read blogs
maher is too busy chasing after playmates.....never catching any, but he chases them (apologies to chico marx for stealing that joke)
chris @ 116:
What?! China, Russia and Iran know they can't mess with us? Bush has expanded our national debt greater than any other president with this unilateral war. He has extended tours beyond the likes seen in Vietnam or even WWII. What tired under armored branch of the military operating exhausted equipment do you think we have to fight another conflict with? You might as well throw Cheney’s pace maker at Iran along with rocks, it’s all we can afford now.
Chris a "few months" well lucky you. Try three tours and with luck maybe not another. I ain't holdin my breath yet.
Psssst... Bush, Chenney, Clinton, The Rethuglican and Democripts are the Corporate Lap Dogs and your groveling for scraps. You need to get deprogrammed. This war is a stupid ride to NO WHERE. If you were really there you would know what I mean. Irag is a WAR CRIME brought to u by the your pro's. The only time u use it is when you are attack PERIOD. I am sure Obama will be up for the task.
This Dr Strangelove mentality has got to end. To use your brains first is a far better choice. If that don't work I am sure Barack will burn 'em, no doubt in my mind.
"Welfare State", look around you. This Country is not goin down because of a "Welfare State". I must implore you to read Shock Doctrine. New Orleans, what fucking welfare state are you referring to?
What Bush and Batman have in common.
Listen to a few hours of FOX NOISE and then contrast it with one of those comically serious old 70’s episodes of Batman and Robin. A stern Commissioner Gordon discussing with Batman what he’s going to do about the evasive evil doer terrorizing Gotham City. They sound frightfully similar.
Zealous supporters of Bush seemingly have watched one too many episodes of the dynamic duo. Just like the fictional show Bush supporters never count the cost, they only know evil must be defeated so Gotham can once again feel safe, collateral damage isn’t given much thought, and somehow everything will return to normal at the end of the show.
This is what has made the last 7 years of Bush so dangerous, he and his supporters approach the real world with the same simplistic fervor as children’s program. There is little consideration for the long term complex implications of their actions outside of their Gotham City. Dire financial concerns are brushed aside with oblivious confidence the current course must be maintained.
Then there are those of us who keep interrupting their favorite Bat channel episode. The spoiler’s who dare to point out the ridiculous gaping holes in their story, suggest this is real life in which people might actually find peaceful solutions and deprive them of their BIFF! BOOM! BAM! action scenes. So they label us as traitors, un-American, wild liberal left, and accuse us of wanting the bad guys to win.
…and they say we have bats in our belfry.
Wow, is that the best they have against Obama? No wonder they are scared of his being the nominee. It's going to get very ugly from here on out. Fortunately, I think he has the smarts to ride it out.
Bill had one too many joints because the writers are back.
chris @ 104:
the lightweight comment is racist, whether you believe that or not
no constitutional law expert is a lightweight, and very few people elected to the statehouse for 8 years and then to the us senate is a lightweight
and your un comment just shows you as another wingnut troll...so begone back to redstate
Dear Mr. Frum,
Please have a very close look at this.
Canada's Program on Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/wc-cg/wc-cg2005-eng.html
Enforcement in Canada
When a potential war criminal does manage to enter Canada or is found already living in Canada, the partners in the War Crimes Program have recourse to a number of enforcement measures, including exclusion from refugee status, admissibility hearings, deportation, extradition, criminal investigation and prosecution, and revocation of citizenship.
kingston & frum what fools!
I have never listened to such ignorance before in my life, are all republicans this stupid?
No wonder we have bush/chenny lunacy with people this stupid I am surprised they are not bombing our own country afterall you have to destroy a country to rob it blind don't you?
Mr. Frum could end up with enemies in very high places on 60 days notice. I'd be watching my mouth if I was him.
Republicans are so stupid. Where were these questions when an AWOL coke-snorting frat-boy drunk who ran everything he did into the ground qualified him to be president?
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
Obama is well qualified to be president.
Jack Kingston is just an idiot. He perpetuates the most imbecilic right wing battle cries, rumors and propaganda being circulated on the web. I can't believe that anyone would actually vote for someone of such diminutive intellect. An idiot! And Frum is just evil.
The more interesting thing is that the woman in the middle (can't remember her name) was useless. She was probably brought on to be a non-wingnut voice, and when she did speak up, she was very good, but she basically shrivelled when surrounded by Frum and Kingston. she was a bit of a non-entity. A disappointing show.
Oh- and for those who think America sees through Frum and Kingston, I'd like to remind you that Kingston got elected. And re-elected. And a sizable portion of the House and Senate are Just Like Him, so NO - America DOESN'T see through them. In fact a large portion think they're CORRECT.
I'm surprised that all of you are getting worked up into a such a lather about some comments made by some wingnuts on a show that so few people watch. Guys, they are wingnuts. That's exactly the king of stuff I'd expect wingnuts to say. Clinton, on the other hand, gets torn to pieces by wingnuts, the MSM, and the majority of the progressive blogosphere. There's the difference. By the way, I am available to be a paid shill, if anyone from the Clinton campaign is reading this,
memyself @ 28:
I have refused to vote in that fucking poll. Furthermore, I have redirected cnn.com to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file. I also emailed them before I did that and said I was doing it. I also will never watch their channel again.
FUCK CNN.
I was infuriated this past week with the episode. The week before was one of Maher's best episodes ever . . . and then this.
So many untruths were told and spread in that hour's time and NOBODY called them out.
Among them, Michelle Obama never came right out and explained her remark about pride in her country. Flat LIE.
I don't remember the rest, but there was a LITANY of bald-faced lies used as talking points - not even true from a certain point of view.
I was very unhappy with Mr. Maher this week for not calling BS on the whole lot.
Bill Maher is so over.............................
I'm friends with Bill Maher and I've never missed Real Time, it's the
only reason I still have HBO. With that said I have to announce that I've just
seen the worst episode of Real Time since its inception! Yes, worst than any of
the writers strike shows! Yes, even worse than that episode with Dana Carvey!
Bill's panel guests this week..... Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), author David Frum
and reporter Amy Walter. Holy shit, it was awful. I haven't seen this many Republican
lies, distortions and misrepresentations go unchallenged since.... well, any regular
Sunday morning political show.
Frum and especially Kingston ran hog wild with the distortions and lies while Amy
Walter did her best Mara Liasson impression. That dynamic and that ineffectual.
Meanwhile, our hero Bill Maher seemed to have spent most this week watching the
debate between Barack and Hillary over and over again completely stoned. It seemed
like he was going out of his way not to offend any of his far right wing guests.
He even let Kingston get away a "Barack Hussein" reference untouched till
Bill brought it up to him on Overtime. Giving him a daddy-like, "I'm so
disappointed that you said that" look. Bill why the anger? Frum and Kingston
even went after John F. Kennedy.... untouched! Most likely because Bill couldn't
think straight knowing he had the deliriously funny impersonation of Obama calling
Hillary a bitch in his best deep black man's voice. All the show was missing
was a fart joke. Any fart joke! Common folks, this show had standards to meet and
you missed then.
Bill also spent a good amount of time lifting McCain up on a pedestal while at the
same time making the same lame old guy jokes (I guess that was Bill's version
of "Fair and Balanced"). The show opened strong and finished somewhat
strong, it was really hard to tell how good "New Rules" was because I
was so pissed at the end.
I hope this isn't the beginning of the end.
Mr. Frum, at the minimum you are at risk of deportation for prosecution.
LanceThruster @ 34:
So tell me Mr. Know-It-All, just what really happened on 9/11? You "9/11 truthers" AREN'T HELPING. Go put on your tinfoil hats and watch for the black helicopters. It is insulting of you to even think that we were somehow behind attacking ourselves. On one hand Bush is an incompetent moron who has been in charge of a failed administration, yet on the other he has led a detailed conspiracy that knows no bounds. Give me a break. I'm a pretty liberal Obama supporter, but even I can watch jets slam into buildings and pretty much figure out how it happened. I know name-calling can be petty, but you sir are the moron when you make stupid ass statements like that one.
Bill Maher's worst show ever and he is responsible.
I remember when we missed his show being off the air due to the Writer's Strike.
Then he returned without his writers.
Now the gang is all back but they must have screwed up their intelligence and indulged in the
GOP Kool-Aid.
Friday night's show was like having Fox Faux News on.
Remember Bill.
We all have some friends best left to the occasional lunch or dinner out - ALONE!
We would NEVER invite them to a party with our other friends.
So why do you insist upon inflicting such pain on your viewers.
Next time take all three of your show's guests out to lunch.
They do not belong on HBO!
Cracker, anyone?
Kingston and Frum are both so annoying that they're dangerous!
Bill Maher allowed all the b.s. on his show with little challenge. I expected more from him, but this Real Time was probably the worst I have seen. Maher was totally unprepared for the lying windbags, and Amy, the independent political analyst, was out of place on the panel. Taibbi was also talked over by the two gasbags; in fact, I think all he was able to say is printed here. Maher owes the audience an explanation.
I think we should at least be honest about the state of our media.
If you're gonna allow trash spewing assholes like this on tv...why not just cut to the chase and put on a pair of actual anuses farting out a rendition of "Dueling Banjos".
Rep. Jack Kingston. This guy is a real looony and he isn't even a Canadian. Who elects yahoos like this clown? Did boooosh give him a lifetime supply of booooosh kool-aid? God, what a looser.
do they still have vomit-bags in airplanes? They should have some with pictures of Maher, Frum, and This Kingston fruitcake
"zeroxed" on them.
ashton @ 3:
Probably should not admit this but Jack lives in my neighborhood. What a looser. Never had an original thought in his political life. He is like that old toy , Teddy Ruxpin. Every mornming the wife just inserts the latest Gooper CD and off he goes......................
Why in sam hell does anyone give David Frum air time or column inches? How many times does this fool need to be shown to have absolutely no credibility what so ever?
Marie....absolutely agree with you. Unfortunately...Bill doesn't keep up as much as political commentator should. There are lot of times when he allows his con-servative guests to spout their soundbyte/playbook BS unchallenged or backs off so they will come back to his show (I have the same issue with Thom Hartmann, but at least he has his listeners call in and debunk the garbage...Thom also allows 'discourse' to take place, in an effort to not alienate the con-servatives that will only go on his show, not other progressive shows).
Let me tell you about Kingston....he's a moron. As simply as it can be put. He's a bubba, a snake oil salesman who parades his lunatic 'evangelical dominionist' rhetoric around so he gets elected by the south Georgia drought farmers... Its funny, he'll pray for rain like the idiotic fellow bubba governor Sonny Perdue, and absolutely condemn water conservation, rationing, and mandatory restrictions....and these idiots still vote for him.
As for Frum, he's a spinster whore in the mold of Luntz...another magic bean seller getting rich off of 'lifelong' republicans, GOP lemmings, & voters that have been had and apparently like it that way...
maher is an asshole.
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