like Darfu, our troops in afganistan and iraq have been forgotten.

does any media even mention these deaths now........NOT AT ALL

like everything in America, if it does not make money.....fuck it !

Now that it's out of the bag that the Afghanistan mission has been a clusterfuck, not enough ammo, no helicopters, insufficient forces, no relief--

It is no longer possible to pretend that the deaths in that intervention are somehow different than the deaths in Iraq. How many of our 'Enduring Freedom' death toll are dead because of the lack of materiel shipped to Iraq instead?

Add 483 U.S. deaths to the "total" casualty count, and quit playing the 4,000 fetish as if it represents something important. We passed 4,000 long ago.

Paul in LA @ 5:

ConcernedCanuck @ 3:

According to that website, less than 20,000 Iraqis were killed in 2007, but not much less. Seems mighty low considering the daily reports. How much lower are their American deaths? Seems amazing that a "surge" of a relatively small amount of troops basically stopped the US deaths. Ya, right.

The cessation of hostilities from the Mahdi army and not the surge is the real cause of that reduced death toll.

The "20,000" Iraqis dead is REPORTED dead, not actual number. As for the U.S. statistics, it isn't possible to hide U.S. military deaths outside of the manipulations we are all aware they use (such as listing the death as a non-combat injury because the soldier died on a hospital ship or in Germany).

Holy crap, we agree on something Paul!!!!!!! I also believe that Afghanistan is a cluster*&^! with no real objectives, just zoom around shootin' and embellishing the truth. It's pathetic. We kill them over there, because we can't legally kill them over here. The citizens of these two countries do not deserve the death and destruction the world has put on them. And this from a gov't (Bush) that says to be ascared of terrists. Well, how many were created when 30000 Iraqis were killed? How about the last explosion that only killed 40? Blowback is gonna be nasty when it happens and sadly it's going to happen.

The information shown on "This Week: In Memoriam" should be what people see every 30 minutes on TV. At the start and end of every hour and half hour, these numbers of our losses in Iraq and the numbers of Iraqi innocents should be seen by our mindless citizens.

For every minute someone watches about Lindsay, Brittney, or Paris, this number should be seen for two. While they masturbate their lives away to "Dancing With the Stars" and "American Idol", safe in their living rooms; fat, dumb and anesthetized to the point of idiocy, people are dying needlessly because we as a nation are too fucking stupid and complacent to care.

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