CNN's Idiot 'is Obama really a Patriot' Poll
Ben Smith writes about this idiotic poll question by CNN on their website. When did they start channeling poll questions that would normally appear in the NY Post? It's just offensive that a main stream news organization would stoop this low.
I've got to say, I've never seen a reader poll like this on a mainstream media website (or, to be honest, a right-wing blog). This is currently on CNN.com.
This question seems tied to this story, in which he took a question about his patriotism. But it's odd to see the mainstream media drive a largely whispered question that none of his main, named critics -- Hillary, McCain, or the RNC -- will touch.
I'd demand an immediate apology from CNN . Did John McCain show the proper patriotism when he sang bomb, bomb, Iran? Please leave the jingoistic garbage to the Freepers.
John Cole points out just how patriotic these American flag lapel pin wearing Republicans are, That is unless being corrupt is a virtue CNN thinks Barack Obama should strive for:
Then we have Rick Renzi, John Doolittle, Bob Ney---you get the point.
Since Obama and the Democrats seem to have such a big problem with patriotism and lapel pins, I guess we need to have yet another photo montage of prominent Republicans demonstrating how to wear a lapel pin. Here goes...read on
Does CNN have the proper credibility to be a News Channel?
that librul media is at it again
cnn, you can suck my sweaty hairy balls. cnn = faux news
How about:
"Was John McCain sufficiently tortured during Vietnam to be President?"
Swift Boat Veterans want to know.
balloon-juice is awesome.
But where do you wear your lapel pin in a prison shower? Lapel pin on a rope?
Well if Bush & Co. and their ilk are patriotic, then frankly we could do with a lot less patriotism.
Isn't spending nearly two years campaigning everyday for the presidency proof enough of one's patriotism? CNN should be ashamed.
What a bunch of shit.
Ver ist du Swaztika?
It interesting how the GOP would love nothing more than to sew a big yellow Star of David on Barack Obama's chest.
The American Flag long ago has stopped being a symbol of our country. It has become a symbol of blind obedience to the notion that America can invade any country, torture any detainee and spy on any American with impunity.
I stand corrected from my post on a previous item.
Two sphincters farting out a rendition of "Dueling Banjos" would be an improvement.
What passes for journalism today really is simply no better than passing gas.
The FCC is the Federal Clown Commission.
Yes Patriotism. Meanwhile . . . .
JEDDAH (Reuters) - Economic growth has stalled and recovery may take longer than usual, former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan said on Monday.
"As of right now, U.S. economic growth is at zero," Greenspan said at an investment conference in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia's second-largest city. "We are at stall speed."
Alright CNN.
Where are you?
Be a man and tell me.
Cuz I'm coming over to kick your ass.
Ass kicking is what it's all about. And you got one coming.
But CNN just posted a story where they have Obama's response to these claims.
Read the story here
So I'm confused, is CNN just a "typical MSM" who has it out for Obama, or did they put up a stupid post then realize it was dumb and then posted a story about how Obama responded to it?
Oh well, I enjoyed living in the black-and-white, us-against-them world, to bad that only lasted 2 seconds.
Idiots! What poll next? "Would Obamas connections to Islam be an obstacle in the war on terror?"
Asked how he would fight the image of being unpatriotic, Obama said, "There's always some nonsense going on in general elections. Right? If it wasn't this, it would be something else. If you recall, first it was my name. Right? That was a problem. And then there was the Muslim e-mail thing and that hasn't worked out so well, and now it's the patriotism thing.
Nuff said.
I'm no Obama fan, but this is outrageous.
Lest we forget, CNN was the network who gave us Bernard Shaw's disgraceful Kitty Dukakis question, and that was before Fox News showed them how to really lower the bar.
Gawd, so many of today's "journalists" are contemptible.
False patriotism runs amok. US flag bumper stickers, support the troops metallic stick-ons, lapel pins make one patriotic only in the eyes of the grossly misinformed and ignorant general populace. Few understand that a true patriot rebels against a government that is unjust. Where would America be if the true patriots of the 18th century had not risen up against unjust government? The right wing slime machine is going to have a ball going after Obama on the patriotism issue. A well funded and professional slime campaign coupled with a very gullible public has proven to be most effecitve; always remember the swift boating of Kerry.
The candidates for president are pretty much assuming that vast financial resources will exist to be deployed against a range of problems. Everybody is going to be hugely disappointed.
BTW, where is mccain's lapel pin? Does being a repuke trump the need to show false patriotism via lapel pin?
The only difference between FOX and CNN is that FOX is out and open with their bullshit(like the surgeon general warning on a pack of cigarettes). CNN pretends to be a creditable news source. Except for Jack Cafferty, CNN is just a large turd in the toilet next to FOX waiting to be flushed.
Looks like the poll is gone. This is going to be a loooooooooooooong election season.
Pay attention John ... fascism, know it, love it.
They are out in front of you yet again. Stop being surprised that you smell smoke while living with a pyromaniac.
The flag is supposed to be the symbol of our nation. It is flown in front of government buildings or it is draped over the coffin of those who served their country. The flag is not a cheap bumper sticker made in Thailand, nor is it a cheap lapel pin made in Communist China.
Sincerely,
A US ARMY VETERAN
Even the neocon's head cheerleader, Bloody Bill Kristol, wouldn't stoop this sort of childish tactic. Oh, wait, that's what his NYTimes column is about today.
You're in good company, CNN.
Our entire system is corrupt. Our government, our agencies, our media...corruption, deceit, cheating, lying...they permeate all aspects of our lives.
Democracy is based, first and foremost on truth. There is no truth anymore, there is only what we are told.
THAT is FASCISM. Plain and simple. FASCISM.
Everyone knows that wearing a flag pin proves you're a fine, upstanding, honest, moral patriot. Yes, indeed. Well, mostly.
Media is so corrupt. Not gonna be easy to win in November.
Democracy requires participation.
People need to participate. Not participation within the system, but outside of the system. We have a right to protest...and we have the right to protest wherever we CHOOSE. "Free speech zones"? What the hell are THOSE? The country belongs to US. We paid for the government building, the streets, the sidewalks...we OWN ALL the property in this country.
Property taxes...whether private or commercial are paid to US. Our government, federal, state, and local are MIDDLEMEN. The government owns NOTHING...we own it.
We can protest where we like. So long as we are not breaking the law, we have the right to congregate wherever we please.
ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT.
Christopher Turkel @ 22:
I am wondering if the Pentagon Office of Misinformation has hackers that put things like this poll on websites like CNN. I know that sounds like a conspiracy theory; but, to put things into context, the bushy government has a track record of engaging in inefarious Orwellian activities.
What is proper? Is it flying a little American flag from your car window until it falls off and gets swept up with the trash on the side of the road? Is that proper?
Jesus, this has got to show that CNN has gotten caught up in the shit flinging fad. I'm glad Obama didn't dignify this bs with any more than he did. He blew it off as just more crap from the big pile of crap that they're using to try to damage him. A candidate must scare the hell out of you when you have to stoop this low to try to attack him.
I have been searching in vain for a picture of Ronald Reagan wearing a lapel pin. I hope they at least buried him with one, or he'll be insufficiently patriotic from beyond the grave. Dig him up and stick a pin in his body!
Bloated gas bags like Tim Russert, Wolf Blitzer and the rest of them are an insult to their profession. They are an insult to our intelligence.
There was a good response to this news on another blog:
Would CNN put up a similar poll question about Hillary Clinton or John McCain?
I'd say the questions about their patriotism are much more relevant, given their support of an unConstitutional and illegal war.
This is ludicrous. Right up there with the rest of CNN's terrible "news coverage." They seem to be doing everything they can to hurt Obama, probably because he hasn't taken any money from them...
Sick Of IT Day! http://sickofitday.org/
Sick Of It Day is a day for everybody who is SICK OF THE LIES, SICK OF THE CORRUPTION, SICK OF THE WAR to make their statement in a way it will really count...
CALL IN SICK on March 19, the 5th anniversary of the Iraq invasion!
I wonder if McCain put a flag pin on his dick before he allegedly laid pipe to Iseman.
Chuck @ 30:
Hack? Hell, no. They just send an email.
No country can survive when citizens are constantly fighting each other.
We're rotting.
CNN is ramping up the shit in time for the two hillary-firewall primaries.
If they can make the deal close enough, the superdelegates can steal the nomination from Obama.
Then sHillary can lose to John McCan'tKeepMyPantsOnWhenALobbyistIsInTheRoom (or McKeatingFive) after she is thoroughly demonized like Al Gore.
CoIntelPro @ 40:
And there's your winner for today.
just sick and sad and low.
Idle financial web gossip has it that the Bushit Criminal Cabal and their Wall St ButtBoyz are hoping to keep enough duct tape and baling wire wrapped around the stinking pile of parrot droppings known as the 'aMerakin Economy' to reach April 15.
The last real cash infusion for the Gov'ment before it become obvious to even the most moronic of US 'citizens' that the cupboard is Bare.
I mean BARE.
xoites defends Constitution @ 38:
It was exposed some time ago that NYTimes, CNN, Fux, LATimes, WaPo and other major outlets have a staffer provided by or assigned by the Intel community (usually CIA) to help deliver a controlled message. I remember that coming out after the 2000 elections, when people started realizing that Al Gore was being demonized by everyone while lying repugs were portrayed as 'sincere' and 'honest'.
The media train wreck for Obama has commenced. The MSM agenda to destroy Hillary and love Obama has been non-stop since the boy pile on of Hillary at the MSNBC Philadelphia debate. “Hate Hillary” “Love Obama” wild-eyed mantras have reached crescendo since John Edwards left the race. Corporate media, owned by Republicans serves the will of the Republicans who fear Hillary and knew all along that they could defeat Obama in the general election. Now he will get plenty of vetting and it will be brutal. All those red states Obama won? All those Republican who voted against Hillary? Yep, they will vote for McCain in November. Obama's new theme song:
"Why do u build me up (build me up) Buttercup, baby
Just to let me down (let me down) and mess me around
And then worst of all (worst of all) you never call, baby
When you say you will (say you will) but I love you still
I need you more than anyone, darlin' (aaaaaahhhhhh)
You know that I have from the start
So build me up (build me up) Buttercup, don't break my heart."
sherry @ 42:
Yeah...no one thought that the powers that be would sink this low...huh.
And who woulda thunk that someone would fly planes into buildings.
Chuck @ 24:
Not supposed to be. But it is.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are not supposed to be cheap toilet paper, but it defacto is.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”
Samuel Johnson
April 7, 1775
Am in the middle of Zinn's A People's History of the United States. If you haven't read it, stop reading this blog and read it right now. You will be a better person for it.
I wonder if CNN thinks they will get more viewers when they pull this bullshit. Somewhere in the back of my little mind I was thinking that maybe CNN is about middle of the road. Not near enough to the truth to be called liberal but coming down enough on the neocons to not be in the same sentence as FOX News. When they do something like this they lose any credibility they may have gained.
I use to put CNN on as soon a Tucker hit the airwaves at 3:00 PM west coast time but now I think I may have to just turn the set off. What is the point of watching CNN when they are only spewing the same crap as FOX. Whatever news CNN happens to wedge into their neocon propaganda I can get elsewhere. Fuck you CNN. Sorry Jack Cafferty but I cannot sit through the propaganda to hear what little they let you say.
Truth B Told @ 47:
Actually, it's car magnets and window inserts made in "most favored nation' China.
Chuck @ 30:
just to add another scoop o' conspiracy check out this:
http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2008/02/transmission-of.html
OMG, the MSM is nothing but opiates and corporate propaganda!
The problem with this meme is that it's true. Most people don't take memes seriously, operating on the somewhat reliable axiom that "If everyone believes something, including myself, then it must not be true."
Information is a weapon, and the average person is unarmored; helpless against IMDs (Informations of Mass Deception). It's not like we have a chance against this stuff. The NSA and CIA have spent millions of money sponsoring research into what amounts to cheap mind tricks. Somebody who "takes a bullet" (wasn't it forcefully thrust upon them?) isn't going to be misled by the idea of "friendly fire" or "collateral damage", but such nomenclature is extremely effective when spammed in the MSM. It doesn't evoke an image. They are benign phrases that fail to stimulate reflection on the actual events that took place.
Push polling is such a fabulously evil extension of this practice. You can say anything you want, be it slanderous and/or libelous, as long as it has a question mark. Claims of objectivity and accuracy are magically retained!
The whole idea seems like some kind of schoolyard game. I suppose that's really what our society is, though. Look around you: bullies, liars, selfish brats, and tiny tyrants. Welcome to "the real world".
caffertyfile@cnn.com
cnn.feedback@cnn.com
Of course I have sent these posts to CNN and you should send your feeling as well.
cnn.feedback@cnn.com
caffertyfile@cnn.com
John, CNN has been putting up idiotic polls as long as I can remember. I think a whole blog could exist on just reporting CNN's polling idiocy.
Gee, I bet he doesn't have a yellow ribbon magnet on the back of his pick-up either. how can he live with himself? (sarcasm).
it amazes me how petty ALL of these 24/7 news agencies are, no lapel pin....wow. if you can't tell how passionate he is about our country from his speeches, you aren't listening.
Quick Vote:
Is CNN really news?
Yes
No
They've taken it down now it appears. Hopefully we'll get one that says "is John McCain to beholden to lobbyists" now.
For balance maybe they'll put up this poll:
Is John McCain sane enough for someone who wants to be president of the United States?
Yes
No
Maybe
What have I been telling you since I started posting on this site. There is no left wing media. (ERWMSM) Extreme right wing mainstream media.
wes @ 7:
They should be asking which he'd prefer, pearls or diamonds. Maybe he'll get asked that tomorrow nite. It's way more important than why didn't you show up to vote on the Iran resolution (among more than half of the Senate's work you didn't do) but you have voted to keep funding that war you've "always" been against?
Welcome to the big time MSM, Obama. Try to limit your finger-wagging or Tweety might have a Big Number count for it soon, unless you switch to Aqua Velva.
CNN blocked one of my comments because I asked if their "reporters" were crazy. (Story was on Clinton using Edwardish quotes)
I guess they did not like the quotation marks.
Wow, that poll wasn't up long, was it? I can't help but wonder how much crap they received for that.
WHEN did Murdoch get approval to buy CNN? CNN=Pravda-Lite..
Ok, I just got a “Failure Notice” back from CNN. The email address I have for them does not work. But do not fret!!! You can go to this site and send them an email. I am so pissed off I will be sending emails all day to these fuck wads. Also I sent an email to Jack Cafferty and they said I should try out “Jack’s new blog”. Well I will be letting Jack know how this is playing with the people I talk to and listen to (YOU).
CNN needs to feed and instigate the Hillary v Obama feud to maintain it's top spot in the ratings war. When CNN hired that wicked ugly bitch Nancy Grace and then hired the ignorant sociopath Glen Beck, I was done with their asses.
When they run a poll like that, they should have a comment section. We could let them know how we really feel.
Well, it's still a long way off to the elections. We need to keep the focus on "enemy recognition".
Which candidate correctly discerned that our focus on the war on terror be Afghanistan and Al-qaeda, and which candidate supported shifting the war to nation building in Iraq?
Did CNN contribute to propagandizing the American people into supporting the war in Iraq, a $400B fiasco? Is CNN propagandizing the American people again with this nonsense?
We all know the answer. The corporate media decreed that the candidates would be Giuliani and Clinton. McCain, I guess makes a reasonable substitute for Giuliani, but the corporate media isn't ready to give up on their Clinton choice quite yet.
In the end, the media is going to turn on any candidate that isn't an AIPAC sycophant.
Boycott all products advertised on CNN.
The only thing these people understand is MONEY.
John,
You should have gotten permission to use the whole list of pix in this post. but the link does just nicely.
Just a thought....
CIP
Hellary is apparently above dirty politics. No lies or misleading flyers from her camp. snark!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html
I wouldn't be caught dead in a flag pin; I'm not going to wear a representation of something George Bush has crapped on.
Billy Kristol did the same thing in the NYT today, just in more words.
Their polling idiocy isn't just limited to politics. December 2006, they posed the question:
Do you like people of your own race more than people of other races.
What the hell kind of question is THAT???
Left&Left @ 67:
I agree completely. Both should be on Faux, not on CNN. It would suit them better...on the other hand, has Faux had a poll asking if Hillary or McCain is patriotic enough?
NoBuddy @ 69:
on that issue, you can't distinguish between the two Dems.
Janet @ 72:
Wow. Texas, I'm begging you people, put the final nails in Hillary's coffin. Obviously she won't know when to step aside without bold writing on the wall.
Time Warner only put up that poll, because it needed to fulfill its monthly anti-black quota.
When this story first showed on CNN, their background displayed a graphic saying "CNN=Politics". Promoting a story like this certainly falls under the category of politics. There was a time when the graphic would have said "CNN=News", but those days are long gone. The real giveaway is that CNN is selling to an ever-shrinking market. Bush's approvals are at 19%. Why (and how) does a commercial enterprise posture itself to appeal to such a small (and shrinking) market? Fully 80% of the market wants something else, and they ignore this?
I have one question for you. Will Obama use the Bible or the Karan to be sworn in. American people need to know which one. I would prefer the Bible, since this is what our country was founded on. I have no preference to what religion you are or are not. But I really don't want my next president to be sworn in with the Karan, the same publication that was used in the 9/11 attach. Has anyone thought about Ralph Nader. who is also running for president? Go to his website, he is quite informative and makes alot of since. We the people should be in charge of this country. Not 583 corporate owned politicians.
Only fascist hide behind a flag pin…
CoIntelPro @ 77:
Well that mean they will definitely go after Obama then. A recent poll on The Cafferty File said that almost all other countries watching our election process are for Obama. The one standout is Israel. They are wanting Hillary.
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Which book the next president is sworn in on is probably the least of your worries.
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Why would a Christian use the Koran?
Ginger Smith, you goddamn backwoods retard.... For the last time Obama is Christian, not Muslim. He'll be sworn in on the bible.
Oh, and it's spelled "koran."
Shoot yourself. Seriously. Save America's gene-pool.
Joementum @ 84:
Uh...the whole Bible issue is a red herring.
The fact is...I could take the oath of office with my hand on the 25th Anniversary Issue of Playboy magazine (Candy Loving!!....YESSSSSSS), and it wouldn't make any bit of difference.
From the beginning the media has been building up Obama based on the theory that, after the last 7 years, you couldn't get a Republican elected to Dog Catcher in this country- unless the only other choice was a black man. Should it come to it, they could always steal the election again, and blame the discrepancy between the exit polls and the vote count on the fact that regardless of what they say in public, white Americans are unwilling to vote for a black President.
Well, it looks like that plan may backfire. and if this particular black man is nominated, he may get too many votes to steal. To paraphrase the title of the classic album by Public Enemy, call it "Fear Of A Black President".
Either way, the legacy of George W. Bush that will not be the disastrous and criminal war in Iraq, it will be that of a man who united this country in a way that no other single man ever has. Not RFK, not JFK, not even MLK. It will be that of a man who has left this country in such a terrible state, of an illegitimate presidency of such utter and abject fauilure, that for the first time in the over 200 year history of this great nation, the electorate would sooner send a white woman or a black man, than another white man to the White House.
Even his old man couldn't do that.
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Hahahaha.....that's one awesome troll attempt. You get to smear the frontrunner, and at the same time cheerlead the independant. Touche! But if you are going to do this, at least use spellcheck. People will already think you are moronic with just the post, but with spelling errors?
Are you a better Christian if the cross you wear is made of diamonds?
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Oh and I heard he's going to get sworn in while having explosives strapped around his waist, and screaming "Allah the merciful hates you American infidel dogs!"
You kidding? This is nothing.
Numbers USA, which CLAIMS it's "non-profit, non-partisan" has ads with Obama's picture, saying:
"Bad News!
Only 18 Senators are WORSE than ME on immigration!"
The choices:
*Record is important
*Record doesn't matter
It's pathetic the smearing that's going on.
No other country in the world takes this patriotism stuff as seriously as the USA. It is sinister and dangerous. It is a reflection of the chavinnism and jingoism that feeds our disasterous forign policy and it is nothing to be proud of.
"Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy." -George Bernard Shaw
= Patriotism is a superstition, one far more injurious, brutal and inhumane than religion." -Gustave Herve
= "Patriotism - the virtue ofthe vicious." -Oscar Wilde
= "Patriotism is a survival from barbarous times which must not only be evoked and educated but which must be eradicated by all means - by preaching, persuasion, contempt and ridicule." -Leo Tolstoy
= "You'll never have a quiet world until you knock the patriotism out of the human race." -George Bernard Shaw
Ginger Smith @ 81:
There are just so many talking points to refute... I'll take this one
"But I really don't want my next president to be sworn in with the Koran, the same publication that was used in the 9/11 attack."
The Oklahoma City bombers were Christians... one of the greatest domestic terrorist attack read the Bible and you didn't have a problem with presidents swearing in on that publication.
What about the Christians that used the Bible to justify lynch mobs in the south and prop themselves up as the KKK? You have no issue with that?
What about the Salem Witch trials? Christians used the Bible to unjustly punish and murder women and one guy.
You've picked a great book as well. Now, I read the Bible, I believe there are some universal truths in it, but I don't subscribe to the notion of violence that many have justified with the scripture.
There are those that read and believe in the Koran that don't subscribe to the same ideologies as minority group that we have labled "terrorists". From my talks with those that follow the teachings of Islam, it's really no different from Christianity on some basic fundamental levels.
I do hope the next president will not be a wrapped-in-the-flag-patriot like this idiot we have now.
proletariatprincess @ 95:
Hmm..maybe Obama should wear a red, white and blue turban while he places his hand on the Koran.
ConcernedCanuck @ 91:
And their gonna serve unborn baby souffle at the reception, served up by homosexual waiters who will then be married by a defrocked minister during the desert course.
So C&L's you will re-run this unproven McCain thing over and over but the min someone says something about your boy Barak you get upset?
chuck h @ 18:
I agree with 99% of your post...Except for the Kerry remark...Kerry had NOWHERE near the popularity or the momentum of Obama...nor did he have an electorate as fired up for a dem in the WH...no amount of muckraking by the GOP is gonna make a damn this election. They've lost credibility with most of the country. They have lost more than credibility, they've lost any hope of EVER being a majority in this nation again!
ConcernedCanuck @ 91:
I heard that not only will he be sworn in with his hand on Donna Karan, his Oath Of Office will include a Signing Statement declaring that anyone suspected of supporting 'The Rapture', or giving aid and comfort to anyone who supports 'The Rapture', will be sent to GITMO as an enemy combatant.
If you ask me, it's about time...
Liberal AND Proud @ 97:
Oh and don't forget, the reception is in a remote cave that has been renovated.
Hey everyone. Chris is back and off topic again.
chris @ 98:
Oooh... a balance troll.
chris @ 98:
Voting for McScandalPerDay are we? Good luck with that.
Udon Nomee @ 100:
Oh and they WILL be waterboarded, cuz it isn't torture it's more like swimming with your hands and feet tied securely.
Udon Nomee @ 88:
You nailed it! That's BushCo's legacy alright!
ConcernedCanuck @ 101:
And guess who the maitre d' is!!!! LOLOL!
"Oh your flag [lapel pin] won't get you into heaven anymore, it's already overcrowded from your dirty little war." (Plagiarizing John Prine)
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Freaks like you are just as dangerous as any terrorist. Dubyah met ALL of your ignorant requirements.
How did the issue of patriotism get sidetracked by the Bible vs the Koran? Seems to me this proves the point I made in #93. Patriotism is truely a dangerous thing,....as is religion.
Liberal AND Proud @ 107:
Al Qaeda's number 2 guy. Oh but you say, we got him. No not that one, a different one. They are all number 2!!!
proletariatprincess @ 110:
Both kill more than any other thing in the history of man. Well, some divorced guys say their ex makes them kill, but that has never been proven.
I got some poll questions of my own.
"Should George Bush be tried for war crimes?"
"Are Republicans racist enough?"
"Is Dick Cheney a big enough ass-hole?"
"Hand on the Bible"...this year's "gay marriage".
chris @ 98:
You mean the McCain thing about breaking the law that he wrote by signing up for matching funds, and then asking for a Mulligan, or do you mean the McCain thing about being literally caught in bed with his lobbyists?
And, why Chris do you think that reporting faked-up smear jobs about Obama is "equivalent" to reporting on the factually-ascertained activites of John McCain?
Do you not understand the difference between someone doing something illegal and then lying about it, or breaking the law that he wrote himself, and failing to display the correct shibboleths to the unelected elite who decide who's acceptable and who's not in this country?
Are you that goddamn stupid?
fwacbar @ 113:
"Should George Bush and Dick Cheney be waterboarded after their military tribunal?"
"Would taking Condi's shoes away be considered torture?"
"Is John McCain white enough to be President?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=infLrZjJpNc
Get used to this.
Shocked!!!
Not.
CNN should just cover man-bites-dog stories and the weather. Even then I would be skeptical that CNN got the story right concerning whether it was a poodle or a tropical depression that was assaulted by the neighborhood kook.
chris @ 98:
Who are you calling "boy"?
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Trust me stupid, the next attack in this country will be from someone who is evaluating this type of nonsense that make imbeciles like you comfortable. They'll say all the right things;like denouncing the very organization that sponsors them, call progressives unpatriotic and weak on defense and George W. Bush a great President. You'll be smiling just when your dumb ass gets blown up.
This question of whether the Christian Obama would swear in on the Bible or the Koran is the kind of thinking that has gotten America into the jam it is in. What is important is, when the next President state "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States", that they mean it. That was Bush's first lie.
Bonkers @ 119:
I was searching for the right turn of phrase to express precisely that sentiment. Bravo. Well played, indeed.
All y'all are outraged over this but you should not be so shocked. It will get way worse yet. There is certainly at least one (if not more) bombshells out there waiting to explode on Senator Obama. It does not matter if it is true or not. It will simply be there. The McCain Newsie was a red herring for a late campaign slag against BHO. Some will think: Well, it it happened against the Rethugs, how can anybody complain when it happens against the Dems? There a all sorts of folk out there who will believe the flag-lapel and hand-on-koran stories, those who take their out-front patriotic display seriously. They love "Muraka by Gawd and don't like people who don't. How do you think we got Chimpy McFlightsuit for TWO terms?
NoBuddy @ 121:
CORRECTION: First lie as president.
Ginger Smith @ 81:
Oh, and one more thing hillbilly, its a KORAN not a Karan, okay? Man I hate helping you dopes. Teachers get paid.
My sister Karen, didn't write a book. WTF are you talking about?
We need to make the distinction between the two parties as folllows
Republican: Defends flag waving and all flag related issues - the flag being the symbol of our democracy.
Democrat: Defends the constitution, the substance of our democracy.
People who undermine the constitution aren't patriotic. People who would represent a national security threat with knowledge that one didn't exist in order to entangle this country in Iraq aren't patriotic. There is a lot more criteria to bring to bear than flag lapels.
What more can be said about the MSM in this country, and particularly CNN? There is no place in journalism for this kind of not so subtle smear.
Seelieme @ 123:
Election fraud, that's how. I agree with you on your other points, but let us never legitimize the lie that the American electoral process had ANYTHING to do with "MENSA Man" being in the White House.
I'm always amazed when Americans still think that CNN and Faux are "news sources".
They are blatantly obvious propoganda mouthpieces for the Reich wing political machine.
How can you expect unbiased reporting from such an organization when their entire reason for existence is to spew biased opinions and outright lies?
Democrats will not commit to ending signing statements:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Democrats_wont_commit_to_ending_using_0225...
"I’m always amazed when Americans still think that CNN and Faux are “news sources”."
They are nothing but a FCC regulated propaganda apparatus. I think the point of ending net neutrality is to skew content to a corporate controlled propaganda apparatus. And, with increasing foreign control of our corporations, how patriotic is a multi-national corporate owned politician?
To keep my 3 year old busy every morning I have her sit at the computer and click the "No" option of the CNN Quick Poll as many times she's willing to keep at it - just like anyone else could be doing.
Why do they allow a poll that doesn't even bother to track multiple votes from the same IP address to be posted on a "reputable" News Channel website? The idiot who initiated this nonsense, Lou Dobbs, proudly displays his daily "Quick Poll" results like a badge of honor. Worse yet 90% of his questions are worded in such a way that only Fidel Castro would vote differently than for the results Dobbs wants to obtain.
The MSM is really getting to be one big JOKE!
But if you send a lapel flag pin to Osama, you're providing material support for terrorists.
Clevenative @ 133:
*gasp* Exposing an innocent 3 year old to Lou Dobbs!?! What are you thinking!?!
NoBuddy@121
“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”.
Maybe they should be sworn in with their hand held over a copy of the Constitution.
I would like to remind you all that this notion that we need to wear the American Flag to show we are patriotic is beign pushed by the same people who wore a purple heart bandage at the Republican convention in 2004....That was sickening. Also I would like to tell the right wingnuts that its not about the flag ...ITS ABOUT THE CONSTITUITION!!!!!!!!
Is George God Damn Bush a Fuckin' Patriot??? Hell NO. The media, military industrial complex, and establishment is against Obama. Let's make up for that. And let's expose these guys before the next "terrorist attack" or whatever happens again. Geez these guys are slime.
What is the last refuge of scoundrels (read: Republicans)?
That's right. Faux patriotism.
Lapel pins.
It's strange how when the media decides that it's going to be harsher on Obama as Hillary suggests, the only way they can do it is by stooping to this kind of level.
James Carville probably came up with this poll.
Fanon @ 136:
That's the BEST damn idea since...well...EVER!
KISSman @ 140:
I'm thinkin Rove did...
What the hell kind of question is this?. Does Hillary or McCain or Bush or who ever. This is the problem with some of you folks that ask this kind of shit. I sure the answer depends on who ever asked it.
Bull shit
CNN should have packed it in after they interrupted The Situation Room for blanket coverage of that non-entity Anna Nicole Smith's demise. I've never gotten over the disgust I have for that incident. Shame on you CNN!
Patriotism Charges against Barack Hussein Obama are just very light innuendoes now. The Republican Party actually has a huge weapon on character responsibility filled with a simple real fact of authentic ethnic potentials that stem from Obama’s very own heritage, his father was considered an atheist converting to a devoted Muslim. A very questionable blood line, which shares his basic cultural clock.
Really deep Cultural Clock of what to believe in is slowly taking shape for Obama and America. That blood line Obama has opened up to laughable criticism towards Cheney as a cousin that is not too cool to be connected to is going to reach limits that Obama didn’t know everyone could believe in. Which will likely result into clever debates that could very well destroy the Democratic movement for a ticket of Hillary and Obama.
Hate radio has already geared up in very effective descriptions of Obama as a cold fish and very distant personality, with a very charged ability to move the crowds with one analyst cleverly said as with rhetoric of Messianic accolades.
Yes, indeed is Obama patriotic ? Is a cultural clock of his heritage going to destroy him rather than transcend him ? Is that Muslim blood connection of his fathers going to trigger Obama to embrace Islam. Is Obama’s mission and destiny to help America get converted to Islam ? Is the Bin Laden family secretly lending money to those quiet Republicans that whisper, Obama, I am a Republican and supporting you. Laying quietly to bolt when the time is ripe.
Obama is going to learn the streets of Chicago are nice compared to the halls of Congress. Obama, just doesn’t yet feel that knife of corruption sinking in his back. And after gasping for a while, of the Senate mentoring from Lieberman, tells Michelle, hurry please pull that knife out of my back, get a hold of Hillary quick.
Kerry's patriotism got questioned, and he was a war hero, WHY SHOULD saint OBAMA be any different ???
See Obama all dressed-up.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7263783.stm
zorro @ 145:
Dead wrong. That's what Hillary has tried and failed at so far. The only people who will buy into the Rove doctrine shit are the lazy, racist, self hating 19%ers (like Ginger Smith@81). I think after nearly 8 years of this divisive shit slinging most people have had enough.
ZombieNation @ 146:
Ooooh! Big deal...that's no different than some of European descent visiting their ancestors homeland and wearing traditional clothing while visiting. Another pathetic GOP attempt to stop the juggernaut that is the Obama campaign.
See Greenwalds story on how Obama is handling the RigthWing Slime Machine here
From Greenwald:
About not wearing an American flag lapel pin, Obama said Republicans have no lock on patriotism.
"A party that presided over a war in which our troops did not get the body armor they needed, or were sending troops over who were untrained because of poor planning, or are not fulfilling the veterans' benefits that these troops need when they come home, or are undermining our Constitution with warrantless wiretaps that are unnecessary?
"That is a debate I am very happy to have. We'll see what the American people think is the true definition of patriotism."
Ever since 2002 -- at least -- most national Democrats have quivered with fear the moment Republicans utter words like "patriotism" and "national security." Traumatized by the 2002 mid-term elections, George Bush's 70% approval ratings, and the media's lock-step adoration of the Commander-in-Chief, to this day they become frozen the moment such attacks are even suggested and desperately and defensively try to comply with whatever demands are made of them. Like many trauma victims, they can never break free of the terror from their past, and still live perpetually in 2002, whereby George Bush's invocation of the words "patriotism" and "terrorism" can send them into spasms of fear and submission.
Can anyone else make sense of what zorro said @ 145? To me it read like one of those jumbled up paragraphs you get in your email. You know, the one that get 'penis enlargement' ads through your spam filter.
In regards to the bullshit of the 'cultural clock', I think you need to stop watching the Manchurian candidate so much.
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