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AshWilliams's picture

Is this a frist?
Love his facial expression.

Don Davis's picture

But let's talk Dems: To Shore Up Jewish Vote, Obama Denounces (and Rejects) Ham Sandwiches

uncle joe mccarthy's picture

on a sad note, our old friend spocko recently lost his dad

please go over to his blog and pay your respects....ty

http://www.spockosbrain.com/

mystic's picture

Charlie Rose has the arch traitor on his show tonight, Nancy Pelosi, who I still believe should be charged with high treason and hung if found guilty. Beholden only to AIPAC, this traitor has done more harm than any woman in government in the history of the US. With her Botox smile, dental caps and Dior kerchief, she has been not only been totally useless, but has caused irreperable harm to her country. She abused the trust the electorate gave her. For shame.

ferrofluid's picture

Two shooting news stories, both involving children and adults victims, compare the LA to the Dallas hospital treatment.
In LA they seem to have bandaided and kicked the patients out the hospital door PDQ,
while in Dallas they are staying In hospital. Do they not have the beds in LA for recovering shooting victims !?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23386475

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23294528/

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That picture's great except there was a diaper involved and their positions have been switched. McKinkybabyfetish is also missing the pacifier.

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ferro: Also of note about the L.A. shooting is that it involved a semi-automatic weapon, the kind banned under a law Bush repealed. People who tear down old ships have dangerous work. Bush is in denial as usual. Is Pelosi reconsidering
impeachment? Or is she just talking big?

Tequila's picture

A disabled American was deported
to Mexico.

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The question is, BG, how many C&L readers remember the original photo? ;-)

Or the Bloom County spoof thereof, for that matter...

It's funny you should say that B. I was thinking the whole satire dated me. Well, not dated me, but took my money and helped my friends. :) - BG

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Tequila @ 7:

ferro: Also of note about the L.A. shooting is that it involved a semi-automatic weapon, the kind banned under a law Bush repealed. People who tear down old ships have dangerous work. Bush is in denial as usual. Is Pelosi reconsidering
impeachment? Or is she just talking big?

The LA shooting sounds like an automatic 9mm pistol not an assault rifle thingy.
and the 10 year Assault rifle / submachine gun ban expired in 2004.

Tequila's picture

A California court hates clean air. Arnie changes his tune on taxes.

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"Although the gun lobby disagrees, Tessaro lays the blame squarely on lawmakers who allowed the assault weapons ban to expire in 2004."

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/11/05/cops.guns/index.html#cnnSTCText

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Tequila @ 8:

A disabled American was deported
to Mexico.

He was lucky he was found alive and got returned to his family in the US, how many others have ICE deported by 'accident' or malice due to bigoted feds.

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Tequila @ 11:

A California court hates clean air. Arnie changes his tune on taxes.

he has fond memories of Total Recall, and wishes them to remain memories not an 08 remake and exit in disgrace

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Tequila @ 8:

A disabled American was deported
to Mexico.

Too bad I have to sign in. I won't be able to read it.

But here's a story about deportation that is so fucked up, I remember it from 2002

Snatched
The guy didn't even speak the language of his native country, since he'd never been there as an adult.

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One would figure that the Republicans would be thrilled with McCain's alleged affair - it is the first Republican scandal in some time that does not involve either repressed homosexuality, blatant deviant behavior in an airport bathroom, or even the use of crystal meth. Any Republican could only aim so high...

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ferro: Nope, it was semiautomatic.

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kitty: Fixed.

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ferrofluid @ 5:

Two shooting news stories, both involving children and adults victims, compare the LA to the Dallas hospital treatment.
In LA they seem to have bandaided and kicked the patients out the hospital door PDQ,
while in Dallas they are staying In hospital. Do they not have the beds in LA for recovering shooting victims !?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23386475

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23294528/

no...we are fucking broke

all the services have been eaten up by illegals....sorry, but its true

add to that the fucked up job that arnold and the legislature have done and what our skirt chasing mayor has done

the state is going down the tubes, but los angeles will beat it there

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Tequila @ 18:

ferro: Nope, it was semiautomatic.

guns are not common and generally banned where I came from.

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gotta go, will check back

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uncle joe mccarthy @ 20:

ferrofluid @ 5:

Two shooting news stories, both involving children and adults victims, compare the LA to the Dallas hospital treatment.
In LA they seem to have bandaided and kicked the patients out the hospital door PDQ,
while in Dallas they are staying In hospital. Do they not have the beds in LA for recovering shooting victims !?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23386475

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23294528/

no...we are fucking broke

all the services have been eaten up by illegals....sorry, but its true

add to that the fucked up job that arnold and the legislature have done and what our skirt chasing mayor has done

the state is going down the tubes, but los angeles will beat it there

Sorry to hear its so bad out there.
California used to be the vision of the American dream, temperate climate, land of opportunities and happy people,
sad what x number of years of Republican misrule does to a state or a country.
Vote or recall him out, and hopefully 09 will be the start of a new century as it was meant to be, not the mess we have now.

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Digg has quietened down, nice and peaceful now that the teenygoppers have all gone to bed,
and they are dreaming blood soaked dreams of Iraq and Iran.

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Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

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Wadda ya suppose McCain stores in those jowls of his?

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stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

prob shacked up with Laura at the Mayflower, both screaming and throwing bottles at the TV.

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Rasputin @ 26:

Wadda ya suppose McCain stores in those jowls of his?

Walnuts

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John W. McCain't:

"The American people don't care if we stay in Iraq for a three hour cruise, or a thousand year cruise."

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Paul in LA @ 29:

John W. McCain't:

"The American people don't care if we stay in Iraq for a three hour cruise, or a thousand year cruise."

Its never the Republicans that we want that go to Iraq.
Why dont they go over there and do some doorstepping,
meet and greet the man on the street and sell the reconstruction.

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Rasputin @ 26:

Wadda ya suppose McCain stores in those jowls of his?

"My Friends...thats where I keep the flag pins I don't wear."

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This picture reminds of a picture of Gary Hart and what's her name.

Donna Rice. God, I'm old and remember stupid shit. Hokay, Don, what does he win? An amana range! (good going aquarius) - BG

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ferrofluid @ 13:

Tequila @ 8:

A disabled American was deported
to Mexico.

He was lucky he was found alive and got returned to his family in the US, how many others have ICE deported by 'accident' or malice due to bigoted feds.

Jesus, talk about fucking up like it's on your resume. I'd sure love to see a follow-up story refuting the following.

ICE officials called Guzman's deportation an isolated incident. "This is a one-of-a-kind case," ICE's Haley said.

Sure. Pull the other one.

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Ed @ 33:

ferrofluid @ 13:

Tequila @ 8:

A disabled American was deported
to Mexico.

He was lucky he was found alive and got returned to his family in the US, how many others have ICE deported by 'accident' or malice due to bigoted feds.

Jesus, talk about fucking up like it's on your resume. I'd sure love to see a follow-up story refuting the following.

ICE officials called Guzman's deportation an isolated incident. "This is a one-of-a-kind case," ICE's Haley said.

Sure. Pull the other one.

yes isolated as in the others never got reported by the MSM.

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Paul in LA @ 29:

John W. McCain't:

"The American people don't care if we stay in Iraq for a three hour cruise, or a thousand year cruise."

He can't choose between McTheSkipper or BeetleJuice("McMymillienium")...

Hi Paulrationalrockstar in LA ;-}

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Capt. McCain't and his Minnow-class cruiser will patrol the cove and keep islanders safe, as soon as he gets it off the reef he crashed it into.

Mary Anne is so last Friday.

New girlfriend Mrs. Howe has MUCH bigger corporate assets.

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Friday looks like a winner, though I profess, or gingerly ask, mister, howe low do you think Gilligan's going to go in the polls before we're rid of his monkey ass?

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stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

At least something positive came out of all this.

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It's Popeye the sailor and Olive Oyl.
In Spinach We Trust

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mystic @ 4:

Charlie Rose has the arch traitor on his show tonight, Nancy Pelosi, who I still believe should be charged with high treason and hung if found guilty. Beholden only to AIPAC, this traitor has done more harm than any woman in government in the history of the US. With her Botox smile, dental caps and Dior kerchief, she has been not only been totally useless, but has caused irreperable harm to her country. She abused the trust the electorate gave her. For shame.

you are a fucking bush repug.........bush and cheney have fucked the entire country.
i know this is hard for you to understand....so please stand over a steel grate in
the street........clear your mind by taking a dump. that should clear your head.

Tequila's picture

Oil is up again.

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Rasputin @ 26:

Wadda ya suppose McCain stores in those jowls of his?

recycled food?

Tequila's picture

The U.N. has a problem with us tearing down housing in New Orleans.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 38:

stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

At least something positive came out of all this.

She's been there. They've been using a lot of white backdrops, is all.

I bet she could suck a special interest group through a garden hose.

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Anonymoose @ 39:

It's Popeye the sailor and Olive Oyl.
In Spinach We Trust

I don't support Blutocracies, Bullwinkle. haha

;}

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Jay Severin Has a Small Pen1s @ 45:

I bet she could suck a special interest group through a garden hose.

She's more practiced with cocktail straws.

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stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

Her motherboard is being repaired. They're also replacing some servos and vacuum tubes (she's part analog, vintage robot technology). Apparently she blew a circuit over all this.

Alan's picture

I'm with you, C&L, but if you want to criticize right wing blogs for printing crap like on lucianne.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/), you shouldn't lower yourselves to this the same type of trash. You're only making it that much easier for rational people to dismiss you and ignore you. You're better than this.

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StirFry the Super Delegate @ 48:

stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

Her motherboard is being repaired. They're also replacing some servos and vacuum tubes (she's part analog, vintage robot technology). Apparently she blew a circuit over all this.

She and Iseman have a lot in common. Vicki's blond, has been close to McHorneyoldgoat, and she's on the blowing circuit.

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Alan @ 49:

I'm with you, C&L, but if you want to criticize right wing blogs for printing crap like on lucianne.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/), you shouldn't lower yourselves to this the same type of trash. You're only making it that much easier for rational people to dismiss you and ignore you. You're better than this.

A fair comment. Then again, sometimes you just have to take malicious glee in your enemy's problems.

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Alan @ 49:

I'm with you, C&L, but if you want to criticize right wing blogs for printing crap like on lucianne.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/), you shouldn't lower yourselves to this the same type of trash. You're only making it that much easier for rational people to dismiss you and ignore you. You're better than this.

I agree. Rational people with no sense of humor and rovian-ratfucker concern trolls diissssmisssed!...

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Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus

Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

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RueMorgue @ 53:

Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus

Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

Kinda wandering into GRILF territory there, RM, lol ;-}

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mystic @ 4 "Charlie Rose has the arch traitor on his show tonight, Nancy Pelosi,"

Hey, thanks for the heads-up! However, while you may be an arch traitor, she is not.

"who I still believe should be charged with high treason and hung if found guilty."

The Speaker is not guilty of treason.

"Beholden only to AIPAC,"

The Speaker is very much NOT beholden to AIPAC. She does, however, represent a city, San Francisco, which is 1/3 Jewish. Shall she not represent her constituents?

"this traitor has done more harm than any woman in government"

You hate her for being a woman? Her femaleness is somehow pertinent?

"in the history of the US."

Well, that's a problem, since there have been so few. Since women were only recognized as fit for voting in 1925, donchaknow.

"With her Botox smile, dental caps and Dior kerchief,"

--with your hatred exposed for its pettiness--

"she has been not only been totally useless, but has caused irreperable harm to her country. She abused the trust the electorate gave her. For shame."

She has done more for her country than you could do in two lifetimes.

But you need a SCAPEGOAT, to hold your pants up.

For shame.

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Proud2bHumble @ 52:

Alan @ 49:

I'm with you, C&L, but if you want to criticize right wing blogs for printing crap like on lucianne.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/), you shouldn't lower yourselves to this the same type of trash. You're only making it that much easier for rational people to dismiss you and ignore you. You're better than this.

I agree. Rational people with no sense of humor and rovian-ratfucker concern trolls diissssmisssed!...

It has nothing to do with sense of humor. Do you want to be taken seriously, or not? If not, if you just want C&L to preach to the choir like Rush Limbaugh, then that's OK, I suppose. But if you want to practice what you preach, if you don't want to be hypocritical, you shouldn't resort to this sort of stuff. It's bush-league (no pun intended), and whenever the right wing does it, C&L calls them on it -- so why are we doing it too?

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The Stray C*ck Express!

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Sorry, Nineteenth Amendment, 1920.

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Alan @ 56:

Do you want to be taken seriously, or not? If not, if you just want C&L to preach to the choir like Rush Limbaug

Open Threads are not taken seriously anywhere in the blogspace.

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Paul in LA @ 55:

Hence the Paultherationalrockstar in LA ;-}

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RueMorgue @ 53:

Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus

Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

She needs a lot more men in her campaign, and it sounds like you have the passion for her it takes.

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Paul in LA @ 61:

RueMorgue @ 53:

Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus

Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

She needs a lot more men in her campaign, and it sounds like you have the passion for her it takes.

That's alright. I'm not going to fuel her dic(k)tatorial aspirations.

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RueMorgue @ 62:

That's alright. I'm not going to fuel her dic(k)tatorial aspirations.

I think your hatred of her is quite ridiculous, if you compare her to almost any Republican, or to McCain't for that matter. She would be a far better President than he would (four more wars), and would not choose hardcore rightwingers to the Court just to make the 'gooks' in the public suffer.

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Paul in LA @ 59:

Alan @ 56:

Do you want to be taken seriously, or not? If not, if you just want C&L to preach to the choir like Rush Limbaug

Open Threads are not taken seriously anywhere in the blogspace.

Does Crooks and Liars want to be taken seriously? It doesn't matter if it's an "open thread" or not -- if you want to criticize the Right for doing shameful things, you shouldn't be encouraging the same stuff with your own people, let alone initiating it. How can you criticize others when you do the same stuff they do? I love this site, and what they do, but I simply feel like they should be above this kind of thing. Maybe I'm simply naive...

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Paul in LA @ 63:

RueMorgue @ 62:

That's alright. I'm not going to fuel her dic(k)tatorial aspirations.

I think your hatred of her is quite ridiculous, if you compare her to almost any Republican, or to McCain't for that matter. She would be a far better President than he would (four more wars), and would not choose hardcore rightwingers to the Court just to make the 'gooks' in the public suffer.

Fuck that. When she clutches at every straw available to her out of desperation to win this primary just because her own dumbass couldn't competently manage a campaign against a junior Senator, I have no reason whatsoever to vote for her, and certainly not on the sympathy angle you're trying to play. She's a typical Beltway Democrat, and I didn't care for the last one of those we had in office.

Better than most any Republican? Possibly. Worse than virtually any potential Democratic candidate? That, too.

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Alan @ 64:

if you want to criticize the Right for doing shameful things, you shouldn't be encouraging the same stuff with your own people, let alone initiating it.

The criticism of the proto-fascist former Republican party can never be too much or 'over the top.' They have proven that.

If you're going to be a scold, why not work on THE ONGOING CRIMES instead of the supposed politeness of political controversy.

A doily is NOT going to bring those lives back, or somehow "heal" what needs several wash cycles through a fiercely-just series of Grand Juries. Fuck them if they can't take a joke a their expense -- and fuck them if we can ever get them into court, because their crimes are a lot more real than the riposte's of the Left in confronting such great EVIL.

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StirFry the Super Delegate @ 48:

stevie @ 25:

Cindy Mccain must be pretty pissed, we haven't seen her on tv for a week.

Her motherboard is being repaired. They're also replacing some servos and vacuum tubes (she's part analog, vintage robot technology). Apparently she blew a circuit over all this.

Yes rather Stepford

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Alan @ 56:

Proud2bHumble @ 52:

Alan @ 49:

I'm with you, C&L, but if you want to criticize right wing blogs for printing crap like on lucianne.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/), you shouldn't lower yourselves to this the same type of trash. You're only making it that much easier for rational people to dismiss you and ignore you. You're better than this.

I agree. Rational people with no sense of humor and rovian-ratfucker concern trolls diissssmisssed!...

It has nothing to do with sense of humor. - kinda redundant, considering the source.

Do you want to be taken seriously, or not? - You left out the 'always' at the end.

If not, if you just want C&L to preach to the choir like Rush Limbaugh, then that's OK, I suppose. - I'm guessing you are the spokesperson for all the pretentious serious rationals?

But if you want to practice what you preach, if you don't want to be hypocritical, you shouldn't resort to this sort of stuff. -I don't remember seeing any posts against lap-dancing lobbyists.

It's bush-league (no pun intended) - Yeah, I'd disown that one too.

and whenever the right wing does it, C&L calls them on it - there's so many, I'm sure they miss a few.

so why are we doing it too? - If ya don't know by now, ya better axe sumbuddy

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RueMorgue @ 65:

Fuck that. When she clutches at every straw available to her out of desperation to win this primary

That is entirely her right.

Maybe you think politics is equivalent to purity. She's brawling, and Obama can take it, and it's hurting her with the electorate, anyhow.

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Paul in LA @ 61:

RueMorgue @ 53:

Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus

Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

She needs a lot more men in her campaign, and it sounds like you have the passion for her it takes.

LOLOLOL!

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Paul in LA @ 69:

RueMorgue @ 65:

Fuck that. When she clutches at every straw available to her out of desperation to win this primary

That is entirely her right.

Good for her. And it is entirely my right to hate her for her dishonesty.

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I'm counting on and hoping Barack Obama wins in both Ohio and Texas come Tuesday.

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Paul in LA @ 66:

Alan @ 64:

if you want to criticize the Right for doing shameful things, you shouldn't be encouraging the same stuff with your own people, let alone initiating it.

The criticism of the proto-fascist former Republican party can never be too much or 'over the top.' They have proven that.

If you're going to be a scold, why not work on THE ONGOING CRIMES instead of the supposed politeness of political controversy.

A doily is NOT going to bring those lives back, or somehow "heal" what needs several wash cycles through a fiercely-just series of Grand Juries. Fuck them if they can't take a joke a their expense -- and fuck them if we can ever get them into court, because their crimes are a lot more real than the riposte's of the Left in confronting such great EVIL.

well said Paul
The Republicans deserve no mercy, every one of their crimes thoughts deeds and all their ugliness needs to be exposed to the light,
and their pathetic track record and policies ridiculed.

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RueMorgue @ 65:

Better than most any Republican? Possibly. Worse than virtually any potential Democratic candidate? That, too.

There are many worse possibilities. It is absurd to put forward TINY candidacies as the standard.

I believe HRC is going to be offered the VP slot, and I think that's a GREAT ticket.

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Paul in LA @ 66:

Alan @ 64:

if you want to criticize the Right for doing shameful things, you shouldn't be encouraging the same stuff with your own people, let alone initiating it.

The criticism of the proto-fascist former Republican party can never be too much or 'over the top.' They have proven that.

If you're going to be a scold, why not work on THE ONGOING CRIMES instead of the supposed politeness of political controversy.

A doily is NOT going to bring those lives back, or somehow "heal" what needs several wash cycles through a fiercely-just series of Grand Juries. Fuck them if they can't take a joke a their expense -- and fuck them if we can ever get them into court, because their crimes are a lot more real than the riposte's of the Left in confronting such great EVIL.

Rockstar! ;-}

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isn't it interesting that though gas is near $103/barrel and the oil refineries here
have not taken delivery of one barrel of this higher priced oil, the price of gas
has shot up by 20-30 cents per gallon.

more of the fuck the american public by the oil corporations, bush's friends.

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Paul in LA @ 74:

RueMorgue @ 65:

Better than most any Republican? Possibly. Worse than virtually any potential Democratic candidate? That, too.

There are many worse possibilities. It is absurd to put forward TINY candidacies as the standard.

The only other even remotely potential candidate who could be worse than Hillary would be Lieberman, who happened to have been manufactured on the Clinton political machine. I'm entirely justified in my distaste for her brand of DINOism.

I believe HRC is going to be offered the VP slot, and I think that's a GREAT ticket.

After sixteen years of right-wing propaganda against the Clintons? It would be political suicide for Obama to come within fifty feet of her.

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dadams @ 76:

more of the fuck the american public by the oil corporations, bush's friends.

The House just eliminated $20 billion or so in oil company perks, but it's sure to have been another symbolic act, given the Senate and the broken Executive.

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Tequila @ 43:

The U.N. has a problem with us tearing down housing in New Orleans.

Theres that Greg Palast documentary which shows the high quality undamaged housing projects that they evicted the residents from,
the plan is to build salable des-res properties for rich mostly white folk in these prime locations.

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ferrofluid @ 73:

Paul in LA @ 66:

Alan @ 64:

if you want to criticize the Right for doing shameful things, you shouldn't be encouraging the same stuff with your own people, let alone initiating it.

The criticism of the proto-fascist former Republican party can never be too much or 'over the top.' They have proven that.

If you're going to be a scold, why not work on THE ONGOING CRIMES instead of the supposed politeness of political controversy.

A doily is NOT going to bring those lives back, or somehow "heal" what needs several wash cycles through a fiercely-just series of Grand Juries. Fuck them if they can't take a joke a their expense -- and fuck them if we can ever get them into court, because their crimes are a lot more real than the riposte's of the Left in confronting such great EVIL.

well said Paul
The Republicans deserve no mercy, every one of their crimes thoughts deeds and all their ugliness needs to be exposed to the light,
and their pathetic track record and policies ridiculed.

But do you understand that the "ridicule" only makes it easier to ignore you? You're doing THE EXACT SAME THING as the people you criticize. I'm sure you feel that it's okay, because you're right and they're wrong, but that's the same way they feel. If you ever want to be taken seriously, you're going to have to take a step back and practice what you preach.

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RueMorgue @ 77:

After sixteen years of right-wing propaganda against the Clintons? It would be political suicide for Obama to come within fifty feet of her.

The rightwing isn't going to win in 2008, regardless. They might steal it, or blow our asses up, anything is possible.

I won't run away. As Obama said, "I'm going to stand up."

Clinton as VP would be a plum, internationally. Both of the Clinton's are still among the most popular people in the world, U.S. propaganda-prison inmates not necessarily included.

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Paul in LA @ 74:

RueMorgue @ 65:

Better than most any Republican? Possibly. Worse than virtually any potential Democratic candidate? That, too.

There are many worse possibilities. It is absurd to put forward TINY candidacies as the standard.

I believe HRC is going to be offered the VP slot, and I think that's a GREAT ticket.

that should unite the party into a formidable force, I hope they offer Edwards a top job too, he needs (and so does the USA need him) a cabinet job.

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Alan @ 80:

ferrofluid @ 73:

But do you understand that the "ridicule" only makes it easier to ignore you?

The scold's point is not holding the field this round, Alan.

We're going to BURY THEM IN A LANDSLIDE.

And piss on it.

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Matt Gonzalez is the former president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, and is best known for nearly winning the San Francisco mayoral race as a Green party candidate wrote this piece...

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Clinton threatens suit over Texas caucus
Fuck her. Fuck her so much.

Well, if she cared that much about vote integrity, she shouldn't have looked the other way on Bush and Jeb's abuse of power. Ironically, the same right-wing judges she endorsed will probably flip her off in court.

Speaking of irony, the gun-loving Repugs seem to ignore the Brady Bill being endorsed by Reagan.

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ferrofluid @ 82:

Paul in LA @ 74:

I hope they offer Edwards a top job too, he needs (and so does the USA need him) a cabinet job.

Edwards is the obvious first choice for the first loyal Attorney General of this millenia.

Bill Richardson at State.
Al Gore as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.
John Kerry for Supreme Court Justice.
Dennis Kucinich as head of the EPA.

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Paul in LA @ 78:

dadams @ 76:

more of the fuck the american public by the oil corporations, bush's friends.

The House just eliminated $20 billion or so in oil company perks, but it's sure to have been another symbolic act, given the Senate and the broken Executive.

I have a few favorite serious commenters, Rockstar, and you're at the top. Sorry if that's an insult by association...

;-}

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Paul in LA @ 81:

RueMorgue @ 77:

After sixteen years of right-wing propaganda against the Clintons? It would be political suicide for Obama to come within fifty feet of her.

The rightwing isn't going to win in 2008, regardless. They might steal it, or blow our asses up, anything is possible.

I won't run away. As Obama said, "I'm going to stand up."

Clinton as VP would be a plum, internationally. Both of the Clinton's are still among the most popular people in the world, U.S. propaganda-prison inmates not necessarily included.

But the international community isn't voting in this election. Are you entirely innocent of, say, Rush Limbaugh's crusade against this 'Feminazi' starting as soon as Clinton I assumed office?

About the only good thing that would come from an Obama-Clinton ticket would be her position as President of the Senate, which she is admittedly more than qualified for. But I do not believe that outweighs the stigma attached to her name amongst non-Democrats and independents.

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RueMorgue @ 77:

The only other even remotely potential candidate who could be worse than Hillary would be Lieberman

On what planet was he a 'potential candidate'?

Maybe Nader will dump that clown Gonzales and choose Lieberman.

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I hope they offer Edwards a top job too, he needs (and so does the USA need him) a cabinet job.

Yeah, I really want a guy with blood on his hands to get a pay-off for crowning Obama. The jerk's just manipulating the progressives for a run in 2016.

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RueMorgue @ 88:

Are you entirely innocent of, say, Rush Limbaugh's crusade against this 'Feminazi' starting as soon as Clinton I assumed office?

I think Obama is going to BURY Rush Limbaugh and make him sound like the imbecile he has always been.

The crimes are outed, the economy is a mess, Iraq is the reason, and everyone knows it.

Republicans can kiss their asses GOODBYE.

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So was Bush drunk today, or what? I'm convinced he was! The news conference was almost painful to watch. The hostility, the slurring, the incoherant phrases---something was definitely up. Every Republican should be forced to sit in silence and watch a replay.

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Tequila @ 90:

I hope they offer Edwards a top job too, he needs (and so does the USA need him) a cabinet job.

Yeah, I really want a guy with blood on his hands to get a pay-off for crowning Obama. The jerk's just manipulating the progressives for a run in 2016.

What a sour disposition. "Blood on his hands." That's hilarious. "Crowning" Obama. Troll much?

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Alan @ 80

But do you understand that the "ridicule" only makes it easier to ignore you?

And do you understand that sincerely boring unimaginitive seriousity pedagogues are much easier too ignore than satire and jokes? Here, I'll show you, marketing moron.

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Paul in LA @ 89:

RueMorgue @ 77:

The only other even remotely potential candidate who could be worse than Hillary would be Lieberman

On what planet was he a 'potential candidate'?

Maybe Nader will dump that clown Gonzales and choose Lieberman.

He is (or, rather, was) within a very broad spectrum of potentials after the failed 2000 bid. That is of course ancient history, but he's about the only remotely possible national candidate I'd give better odds to of being worse than Clinton.

I think Obama is going to BURY Rush Limbaugh and make him sound like the imbecile he has always been.

No doubt of it, and I'm not debating that. But that's when he assumes the Presidency, and you can't deny that the absurd right-wing attacks on Clinton still have resonance today. I dislike her greatly, but I don't out-and-out have a death wish for her like they did.

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Paul in LA @ 86:

ferrofluid @ 82:

Paul in LA @ 74:

I hope they offer Edwards a top job too, he needs (and so does the USA need him) a cabinet job.

Edwards is the obvious first choice for the first loyal Attorney General of this millenia.

Bill Richardson at State.
Al Gore as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.
John Kerry for Supreme Court Justice.
Dennis Kucinich as head of the EPA.

Al Gore as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.
Would be good to have a real Ambassador rather than the appointees that Bushco have tried.
Seven lackeys in seven years !!!!!!!!!! and at least four of those were fake ones.

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bushtwin @ 92:

So was Bush drunk today, or what? I'm convinced he was! The news conference was almost painful to watch. The hostility, the slurring, the incoherant phrases---something was definitely up. Every Republican should be forced to sit in silence and watch a replay.

That press conference was embarassing. I've come to expect Bush to look like an idiot sometimes but that was bad on so many levels. And looking amazed at the $4 gas prices was when I just wanted to bang my head on the table. I keep reminding myself that he's almost done. Then I wonder what he can still do in the time he has left and it makes me a sad panda.

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ferrofluid @ 96:

Would be good to have a real Ambassador

Samantha Power's interview on Charlie Rose was pretty amazing on this topic. Her new book (she is one of Obama's top advisors) is about Sergio De Mello, who she says was the most important UN asset in its history.

(killed in Iraq /by Bush/, one day after making his first official protest to the Bremer occupational authority).

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bushtwin @ 92:

So was Bush drunk today, or what? I'm convinced he was! The news conference was almost painful to watch. The hostility, the slurring, the incoherant phrases---something was definitely up. Every Republican should be forced to sit in silence and watch a replay.

is the 'Catapult the Propaganda' video on Google part of it?

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Here's some more information about Dana Simpson's account in the Rove/Siegelman connection. See "Karl Rove was Looking for Gay Sex."

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Roark77 @ 97 "I keep reminding myself that he's almost done."

To treat a traitor as an inconvenience is foolhardy. He's raping our brothers and sisters, right now. There is NO reason for treating his continued tenancy in the Shitehouse as a given. Agitate for justice. Speak truth to power. Educate others.

"Then I wonder what he can still do in the time he has left and it makes me a sad panda."

Take your frown and turn it upside down. And then redouble your resistance.

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It really is amazing how different cultures have a different take on these things.

In France, the whole lobbyist/money side of this thing would be the scandal.

The possibility that a senior citizen like McCain might be boning a not-unattractive youngish woman would enhance his 'election' appeal no end.

I know which world view I prefer...

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blahblah were such good democrats blahblah we are better than republicans because we don't do dirty politics blahblah JOHN MCCAIN HAD SEX WITH THIS WUMAN LOOK WE PHOTOSHOPPED HER FACE!! GO BLUE TEAM GO!

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Mel @ 100:

Here's some more information about Dana Simpson's account in the Rove/Siegelman connection. See "Karl Rove was Looking for Gay Sex."

Isn't Rove camp as a row of tents?

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RueMorgue @ 95:

Paul in LA @ 89:

he's about the only remotely possible national candidate I'd give better odds to of being worse than Clinton.

The numbers certainly don't show any such thing.

Obama is being a phenomena. He's an X-factor, he has come up like a spring rose in the thistle. HUGE popular support.

If not for him, HJC would have already clinched this race. So she has support, and a lot more support than your fantasy about Limbaugh acknowledges. The rightwing have crapped in the bed.

The stink by November is going to be enough to kill an elephant.

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Paul in LA @ 98:

ferrofluid @ 96:

Would be good to have a real Ambassador

Samantha Power's interview on Charlie Rose was pretty amazing on this topic. Her new book (she is one of Obama's top advisors) is about Sergio De Mello, who she says was the most important UN asset in its history.

(killed in Iraq /by Bush/, one day after making his first official protest to the Bremer occupational authority).

Strange how the potential witnesses to the subsequent events, were either bombed or chased out of Iraq back then.
Independent journalists (not depending on the US mil for their stories) who strangely become targets for 'insurgents'.

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(sorry, the quoting in 105 is reversed)

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". . . and squeezed her melons . . . "
*

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"Obama is being a phenomena." That's both a typo and actually true. He's surging forward carrying a tsunami.

Limbaugh is going to be hysterical by June, and taking so many downers he can't spppeakkk pprrroooperrlyy. And then he'll sound like the Daffy Duck imitator he has always been.

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PartyFirst @ 103:

blahblah .......blahblah ....... blahblah GO BLUE TEAM GO!

Thanks!

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Ozguy @ 104:

Mel @ 100:

Here's some more information about Dana Simpson's account in the Rove/Siegelman connection. See "Karl Rove was Looking for Gay Sex."

Isn't Rove camp as a row of tents?

Hes a Republican... and the rules generally are

Outspoken anti something = secretly pro,

R with a 'tache' = paedophile.

Bushco appointee = drag queen waiting for an embarrassing DUI and 15 mins of fame.

Special envoy = industry lobbyist with close personal ties

you get the gist

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Paul in LA @ 109:

"Obama is being a phenomena." That's both a typo and actually true. He's surging forward carrying a tsunami.

Limbaugh is going to be hysterical by June, and taking so many downers he can't spppeakkk pprrroooperrlyy. And then he'll sound like the Daffy Duck imitator he has always been.

Not to mention that Limbaugh is already flipping out over McCain. I know sooner or later he'll be rallying back behind McCain but it's fun to see ole Rush getting loopy this early over pretty much everything.

Personally I'm hoping that McCain keeps pissing off the talk show wingnuts. That would really make for an interesting race.

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Paul in LA @ 109:

"Obama is being a phenomena." That's both a typo and actually true. He's surging forward carrying a tsunami.

Limbaugh is going to be hysterical by June, and taking so many downers he can't spppeakkk pprrroooperrlyy. And then he'll sound like the Daffy Duck imitator he has always been.

They really should put a salad-bar spit guard over his board now.

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I found this by accident today. When you google "live msnbc stream" the first link is Free Republic, a thread with links to footage of the Iraq invasion (the thread is dated mid-March 2003). The funny/sad part is the comment left by a loyal freeper, locked forever in time:

To: Eat-Mo-Possum

How cool will it be to have American tourism there someday soon?

21 posted on 03/21/2003 5:56:09 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative

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What do you think the chances are that we'll ever have something like the fairness doctrine again?

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Trittydi @ 108:

". . . and squeezed her melons . . . "
*

Those aren't melons, they're life preservers.

Check it out. This year, as a result of the Idiot, we have a 'mixed-race,' a woman, a torture victim, and a formerly-fat preacher, a Mormon science experiment, a couple of bigots, L Ron Paul (Son of the South, if you know what I mean), and a Nader Maraschino cherry. We might even get a rich Mayor into it, instead of the formerly-rich Mayor of Nine-eleven, the place no one wants to go again, for $15,000 a vote.

It's not going to be the match of the century. McAin't won't. And Clinton is going to have to spend eight years in penance for her ambition and bad decisions (during, it's true, a ton of shit) in order to have a much more fair appraisal of her right to be President.

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Here's a hell of a documentary..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009 (2hr6min)

Here's a real piece of work...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGtNmmb2y0 (2min)

Do it.
www.savetheinternet.com (free)

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Proud2bHumble @ 115:

What do you think the chances are that we'll ever have something like the fairness doctrine again?

About the same as Bush winning a Pulitzer in literature or Cheney winning a Nobel peace prize.

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Paul:

What a sour disposition. “Blood on his hands.”

So he didn't vote for an illegal war and help Bush win 2004 by refusing to denounce it?

Anyway, the Senate continues to flip-flop on withdrawal. Is Abu Ghraib inspired by the Stanford Prison Experiment?

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Proud2bHumble @ 115:

What do you think the chances are that we'll ever have something like the fairness doctrine again?

There has to be another break-up of Bell. The conglomerates have to be broken back up, the media system made more fair and more diverse, the way the laws say.

We may have enough power by 2010 to start that process.

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Tequila @ 119 "So [Edwards] didn't vote for an illegal war

That vote changed absolutely nothing. No Dem vote mattered one way or another. The fix was in on the Republican side; they already had the majority. The only question from the Dem Senate side was how to position around it. And if you will read Clinton's floor speech, you will understand that she offered a considerable justification for her vote; Edwards has equivalent justifications. The childish idea that the Senate operates on YOUR ideals is not in effect in the Senate.

"and help Bush win 2004 by refusing to denounce it?"

Bush did NOT win in 2004. Where have you been? It was STOLEN in Ohio, and a lot of other places. Edwards wanted to challenge; Kerry (and the party) declined.

John Edwards is nothing like a perfect human being. But he has done a lot of good in his life, and is a loyal, honest, decent person, who would NOT have done what Bush did, ever. His vote either way could not stop Bush, and anyhow, it's a PRETENSE, this trying to tag him with that vote as if it is equivalent to Bush's crimes. Nonsense.

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Paul in LA @ 109:

"Obama is being a phenomena." That's both a typo and actually true. He's surging forward carrying a tsunami.

Limbaugh is going to be hysterical by June, and taking so many downers he can't spppeakkk pprrroooperrlyy. And then he'll sound like the Daffy Duck imitator he has always been.

As long as he doesnt get busted a third time for smuggling or possessing drugs.

April 28th 2006

June 26th 2006

"On Oct 5, 1995, he said on his television show, “Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

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There is a special election on March 8th to fill the seat being left by Dennis Hastert in Illinois' 14th Congressional District. Bill Foster is the Democrat going up against Jim Oberweiss a Republican endorsed by Dennis. Let's hope Bill wins!!!!

Every seat counts. One by one. Bit by bit.
http://www.21stcenturydems.org/candidates/profiles/bill-foster

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Rockstar.

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Tequila @ 119:

the Senate continues to flip-flop on withdrawal.

That's not a correct interpretation. The Feingold bills are co-sponsored by Leader Reid, and Reid promised to allow them time in the calendar as soon as possible.

But the continuing DINO block of 20-25 Bushco-voting "Democrats," such as Rockefeller, or Feinstain is still there, still continuing to be there, 60-75 votes when they need them -- the reason why impeachment is off the table in the House. So progress in stopping Bushco's seizure of Iraq and bankrupting of the Treasury is often not successful, because there aren't enough loyal votes.

You can blame that on the party if you like, but these people are being elected in the States, and it is REALLY hard to remove Senators, generally, as you would know if you have tried to.

Where do you take responsibility?

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Paul in LA @ 116:

Trittydi @ 108:

". . . and squeezed her melons . . . "
*

Those aren't melons, they're life preservers.

Check it out. This year, as a result of the Idiot, we have a 'mixed-race,' a woman, a torture victim, and a formerly-fat preacher, a Mormon science experiment, a couple of bigots, L Ron Paul (Son of the South, if you know what I mean), and a Nader Maraschino cherry. We might even get a rich Mayor into it, instead of the formerly-rich Mayor of Nine-eleven, the place no one wants to go again, for $15,000 a vote.

It's not going to be the match of the century. McAin't won't. And Clinton is going to have to spend eight years in penance for her ambition and bad decisions (during, it's true, a ton of shit) in order to have a much more fair appraisal of her right to be President.

I miss Rudy, he should go help Nader with his campaign ;)

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ferrofluid @ 23:

uncle joe mccarthy @ 20:

ferrofluid @ 5:

Two shooting news stories, both involving children and adults victims, compare the LA to the Dallas hospital treatment.
In LA they seem to have bandaided and kicked the patients out the hospital door PDQ,
while in Dallas they are staying In hospital. Do they not have the beds in LA for recovering shooting victims !?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23386475

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23294528/

no...we are fucking broke

all the services have been eaten up by illegals....sorry, but its true

add to that the fucked up job that arnold and the legislature have done and what our skirt chasing mayor has done

the state is going down the tubes, but los angeles will beat it there

Sorry to hear its so bad out there.
California used to be the vision of the American dream, temperate climate, land of opportunities and happy people,
sad what x number of years of Republican misrule does to a state or a country.
Vote or recall him out, and hopefully 09 will be the start of a new century as it was meant to be, not the mess we have now.

getting ahnold out wont fix our problems....they started years ago with term limits

the repugs got term limits onto the ballot to get rid of one guy....and all it did was make the legislature more corrupt and splintered

cali is a friggin mess....

today, the city of valejo just missed declaring bankruptcy

the city of los angeles is flat broke

almost every city is facing some sort of fiscal crisis

and bush keeps saying that we are not headed for a recession

tell you one thing....as cali goes, so goes the nation

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Proud2bHumble @ 124:

Rockstar.

green Monster, perfect for a 6am liquid breakfast at work :)

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ferrofluid @ 122:

As long as he doesnt get busted a third time for smuggling or possessing drugs.

He may luck out. The giant zit that is holding 3.2 million prisoners is going to pop, run up against the fiscal realities. The Drug War will end, by economics finally ruling the day.

The DEA bureaucracy could use some trimming. Let's transfer that money to education instead.

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Let's hope Obama widens the gap and wins in both Ohio and Texas and puts us on a road to a new, completely new, White House.

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ferrofluid @ 126:

Paul in LA @ 116:

I miss Rudy

I Flush for Rudy.

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Well over a million people have donated to Barack Obama's campaign...
I hope the election machines work well in both Texas and Ohio. No more funny business!!!

http://www.GetItStraightBy2008.org
http://pol.moveon.org/paper2008

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Orangutan. @ 131:

Let's hope Obama widens the gap and wins in both Ohio and Texas and puts us on a road to a new, completely new, White House.

Nah, even if he were to win them both, Mark Penn will just readjust the goalposts and declare that victory is still possible and probable. Then we can suffer through a few more weeks of watching Clinton dig away at Obama.

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Paul in LA @ 130:

ferrofluid @ 122:

As long as he doesnt get busted a third time for smuggling or possessing drugs.

He may luck out. The giant zit that is holding 3.2 million prisoners is going to pop, run up against the fiscal realities. The Drug War will end, by economics finally ruling the day.

The DEA bureaucracy could use some trimming. Let's transfer that money to education instead.

I cant quite see steroided ex DEA or LE types being rather good with children, they are too quick on the draw with their TASERs.
I suppose gutting the WOD down to a sensible level (for limiting the supply of hard drugs) and transferring the ex DEA drug warriors off to Iraq and similar hell holes would be a good bonus. They enjoy guns and the macho stu8ff, they could go play with other people who equally enjoy the same toys.

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ferrofluid @ 129:

Proud2bHumble @ 124:

Rockstar.

green Monster, perfect for a 6am liquid breakfast at work :)

Rockstar's holding court.

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Clinton makes a great Senator from New York. :)

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Paul in LA @ 132:

ferrofluid @ 126:

Paul in LA @ 116:

I miss Rudy

I Flush for Rudy.

He's not that cute in a dress. I blush for you (kidding) ;-}

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The 'WAR' could be over by Festivus if the DEA was in Iraq

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Proud2bHumble @ 136:

ferrofluid @ 129:

Proud2bHumble @ 124:

Rockstar.

green Monster, perfect for a 6am liquid breakfast at work :)

Rockstar's holding court.

sorry

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Paul in LA @ 132:

ferrofluid @ 126:

Paul in LA @ 116:

I miss Rudy

I Flush for Rudy.

I sense product potential, a holographic projector which projects your favorite lovable Gopper into the toilet bowl.
Could have sound too, waffling speech sound bites and or screams and shrieks of 'nooooooo'

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Proud2bHumble @ 113:

They really should put a salad-bar spit guard over his board now.

He better have a spit guard he can carry around with himself, too.

Colbert ripped O'Reilly a new one by comparing him to WB Jr., pointing out how inchoate Bill-o is, how poorly 'shut up' replaces a WB Jr. winking putdown that --really-- influences the audience. HILARIOUS. I'm sure BO's hair is on fire. Colbert also managed to down Lincoln, I mean Reagan.

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When Democrats misbehave they screw their interns. When Republicans misbehave, they screw the country. I know which type of philanderer I prefer.

(However, since Republicans have been unable to check their greed over the last 30 years, they've insisted on screwing BOTH.)

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Anyone with a Reddit account.. This guy deserves our votes... http://reddit.com/user/georgewashingtonblog/

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Proud2bHumble @ 138:

Paul in LA @ 132:

ferrofluid @ 126:

Paul in LA @ 116:

I Flush for Rudy.

He's not that cute in a dress. I blush for you (kidding) ;-}

Touche.

He'd be cute in a small cell for the rest of his life.

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Orangutan. @ 137:

Clinton makes a great Senator from New York. :)

She's trading up, even with her flaws.

Obama is carrying the Progressive wave, but HJC is the darling of the DLC, and that's most of the party between them.

Obama/Clinton '08.

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ferrofluid @ 140:

Proud2bHumble @ 136:

ferrofluid @ 129:

Proud2bHumble @ 124:

green Monster, perfect for a 6am liquid breakfast at work :)

Rockstar's holding court.

sorry

I feel pretty sorry myownself, when I watch him do his thing. (in a good way) ;-}

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Roark77 @ 134:

Orangutan. @ 131:

Let's hope Obama widens the gap and wins in both Ohio and Texas and puts us on a road to a new, completely new, White House.

Nah, even if he were to win them both, Mark Penn will just readjust the goalposts and declare that victory is still possible and probable. Then we can suffer through a few more weeks of watching Clinton dig away at Obama.

I don't think so. If she loses both next week, the party is going to tell her to fold her tents. We don't need to maintain a divisive front for any longer than necessary.

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Where were You when America lost it's Freedoms?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YErNRaDWk0w (2min)

This guy is freaking awesome!! Thank You.

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Proud2bHumble @ 147:

ferrofluid @ 140:

Proud2bHumble @ 136:

ferrofluid @ 129:

Rockstar's holding court.

sorry

I feel pretty sorry myownself, when I watch him do his thing. (in a good way) ;-}

We're standing on the shoulders of giants, all of us, Proud.

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