FNS: Rove Claims To Have Standards On Negative Campaigning
By Nicole Belle Saturday Mar 01, 2008 2:02pm
*snicker* New FOXNews "analyst" Karl Rove has some words of caution *snort* for any politico thinking about going negative on Barack Obama *guffaw* by focusing on his middle name. *BWAHAHAHAHAHA*
Sorry, it was hard to keep a straight face as I typed that. As I wipe a tear of mirth from my eye, let us just remember this is Karl "John McCain fathered an illegitimate black baby" and "John Kerry made up his Vietnam injuries" Rove. The man who redefined dirty tricks in a campaign claims that using Obama's middle name will help Obama and hurt McCain.
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ROVE: Look the “Hussein”…using his middle name helps Obama, it doesn’t hurt him. So anybody who wants to help John McCain ought to stop using…
WALLACE: How do you explain that?
ROVE: ‘Cause I think people look at it and say, ‘look, that’s one step too far. You’re trying to leave an implication that he is a Muslim when I know he’s not.’ And I think you know, lot of times attacks in politics fail, in fact they turn into a negative for the person who’s doing the attacking because people think it’s gone too far. And this frankly, goes too far. Now, having ties to Louis Farrakhan and his anti-Semitic comments, that’s…that’s…you know, people have a reasonable, that’s a reasonable question. Do you agree with him, do you renounce him, do you reject him? But this idea of getting up there and using the guy’s middle name in order to imply something about him is…it goes too far.
Really? You have to wonder about Rove's ulterior motive with this--plausible deniability for future whisper campaigns? The whole "Obama is secretly a Muslim" meme is one that is playing very, very well with the wingnut blogosphere and the rest of their base. And that he thinks Obama's "ties" to Louis Farrakhan are fair game. Hmmm....shall we look at some of the scary things that John Hagee has said, an endorsement that McCain actively pursued? Would you advise McCain denounce and reject Hagee, Karl?
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tell a lie and make sure it's BIG and never stop telling it. be relentless in your conviction of propaganda. this is the tactic that Hitler used as well.
weldon @ 1:
I posted that on Shemp Hannity's forum and posted all the major talking heads. They banned me for that one.
They want to save all of the negative propaganda for when they know which one will be the nominee.
Look, dirty politics is a fine art. You have to have had training in college. It's best left to professionals.
Rove apparently thinks his past will go away if he ignores it. That's gonna' be pretty hard to do, once the indictments start rolling in. Lawyer up, porky.
"Hussein doesn't bother him"? Really? Then why were the reichwing so offended by a person saying, "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney"? Why so offended as "He put the W in AWOL"?
Rove is an anal cyst, not an analyst. Actually, he's better described as what comes out....
This isn't about whether the trick is dirty or not, but about whether the dirty trick is effective or not. Specifically, Rove know that MANY conservatives who may harbor racist views, are really sort of soft racists, in that they probably are racist, but don't like to think of themselves as racists. Coming out strong with a racist 'Obama is a black muslim' strategy will backfire with these typed of voters, causing them to either stay home or maybe even voting for Obama, rather than admit to themselves they are racists.
Chopvac @ 6:
Hey, thats a total insult to anal cysts!
Marcus Aurelius @ 5:
Oh, he's alredy lawyered up. Just hope the prosecuters are on top of their game. Problem is all the evidence they have destroyed.
All I know is, Karl Rove must have been one butt-ugly baby. That is truly a face only a mother (or GWB) could love.
I'm fairly convinced the man would view a 2nd Civil War in the US as a positive thing. red vs. blue. think of the consulting fees!
rove seems to have no problem with being a religious or racial bigot, he's just askeered that he might be pegged as the wrong kind of religious or racial bigot.
I am not a Senator Obama supporter. I voted for Senator Clinton in the Arizona Presidential Preference Election back in February.
With that information out of the way, the real question EVERYONE should be asking is: If the U.S. Constitution prohibits a religious litmus test for anyone seeking Federal office, than why shouldn't a person of the Muslim faith be allowed to run for President?
Phoenix Justice @ 13:
I can imagine that question coming up if we ever have a muslim running for president. Hasn't happened yet, so why should we be asking that question?
Phoenix Justice @ 13:
Cause a large portion of our country are either racial or religious bigots?
If it were up to me I'd ask every american this question: Would you vote for an incompetent/dishonest person of your faith, over a competent/honest of a differing or no faith?
Anyone who answered yes would be put on a raft with the religious text of their choice and pushed out to sea.
This man is a traitor. His actions in the Plame affair gave material aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.
He should be sent to the wall.
After a fair trial of course.
Standards?
really.
hmmmmmmm? what will he say next?
Do not underestimate Rove. By insisting that Obama's middle name should not be used for negative campaigning, he has already achieved the following things:
1. He implies that there is something wrong with Obama's name ("oh it is so bad and evil that even I will not touch it with a ten foot pole!")
2. He perpetuates the meme in the news cycles -- people are now always talking about it, continually reinforcing point 1, that there is something bad about it and you should be worried.
3. Like Calpurnia, he is seen to be chaste and above the fray, so when negative attacks do occur downstream in September and October (oh yeah you bet they are gonna happen) he has complete plausible deniability.
Obama needs to squelch this fast, and as fast and effectively as he dealt with the flag pin nonsense. Otherwise it will become a millstone around his neck, the elephant in the room that will never go away. The more people try not to think about it, the more prominent it will become.
Rove is scared.
The truth of the matter is that the use of "Hussein" when referring to Obama is in fact having a positive impact on Obama because the negative tactic is losing effect and is backlashing on those that use it. People are beginning to see the lunacy in it. It's a fringe effect, but it is gaining momentum.
At the moment, Rove is just sticking another finger in yet another leaks in the dyke holding together the neo-con dream. The sooner he shuts these (obvious) loon-jobs up the better it will be for McCain.
why is no one discussing this important factor??
Stop-Clinton movement takes root
“Obamacans,” as the campaign likes to call its Republican supporters, offer a variety of reasons for turning out for Obama, not the least of them a lack of interest in the Republican primary now that Sen. John McCain of Arizona has all but wrapped up his party’s nomination. Others say they genuinely think Obama is the best candidate for change.
But a significant proportion say they are temporarily backing Obama for strategic reasons. They plan to vote Republican in November, but for now, their goal is to try to make sure Clinton cannot win.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23394070/
Nicole,
I think you're great, but on this one I think you missed the point. Rove is not coming out against negative campaigning, he's advising Republicans to make sure they do it in a way that doesn't backfire. He's like the parent who doesn't care what his kid does as long as he doesn't get caught.
What is wrong with Chris Wallace, is he really that clueless....
See? Obama really IS uniting the country. He's gotten me to (somewhat) agree with Karl Rove...
This man endangered the lives of dedicated civil servants for pure political gain. The fact that he now carries on as if no such thing happened, indicates he is a true sociopath, making him more dangerous than most folks think. Just a hunch.
they are influencing our primary. we are being so easy to manipulate. they are helping put forth the weaker candidate. once you peel away the votes that really will go to mccain, the hillary support that will not vote for OBAMA, minus the democrats voting for nadar, i think you OBAMACANS ar in for a predictable surprise.
43% of people associate OBAMA with INEXPERIENCE.
Rove's ulterior motive is simple and obvious; he would much rather his Party run a campaign against an "I am not a wartime president" Barack Obama candidate during wartime than against Hillary Clinton. He knows the American people always elect the more hawkish candidate as president at a time of war. He knows it, McCain knows it, Clinton knows it.
The only one who doesn't seem to know it is Barack Obama. But he'll certainly find out all about it eventually.
crazyworld @ 21:
Rove's and McCain's supposed repudiation of these remarks is also designed to keep them above the fray. They'll just let those other ugly people say those ugly things. McCain's too good for that, don'tcha know.
Rove knows that Obama will not sit back and take it like Kerry and McCain did.
I think Rove was trying to say that if you're going to do it, then go full bore. Don't stop at Hussein - go for the Hussein Osama.
Put out commercials, send out flyers, splash it on billboards, make a movie about it. That's how you do it.
Don't leave them questioning whether he is a Muslim, leave no doubt in their puny skulls that he is.
Anonymous @ 2:
there's a REASON why Obama will not go on FOX. it's because he is going to dismantle FOX. annex it, tear it apart, scatter the pieces and display it for ALL to see.
he's going to institute the fairness doctrine and all the rest of the corporate MSM will be SO AFRAID of losing billions of dollars they will quickly fall in line.
Glenn Beck et al will be held up and displayed as the EVIL they are.
#26 "Rove’s ulterior motive is simple and obvious; he would much rather his Party run a campaign against an “I am not a wartime president” Barack Obama candidate during wartime than against Hillary Clinton. He knows the American people always elect the more hawkish candidate as president at a time of war. He knows it, McCain knows it, Clinton knows it.
The only one who doesn’t seem to know it is Barack Obama. But he’ll certainly find out all about it eventually."
So the cloak is removed. One-half of the Democratic party is willing to accept a perpetual state of war.
michelle @ 25:
And 57% of people don't. Funny math you have there. As for the rest of your post, you know little about politics.
Hagee is more dangerous than people realize. He will be the head of the Department of the End of Days, under president McCain. He will direct the military to reproduce seens from revelation on location.
It's Me @ 26:
Yes he will, when he buries John Mc Insane in November.
I think there's more here than meets the eye. Frank Rich hits on it in his column today... The Republicans are about three 'macaca' comments from permanently casting themselves as your crazy racist uncle. Rove is no dummy, and he likely sees this. Yes, it served him well to make up really vile lies about McCain, Kerry and many others. Obama, at least for now, is probably immune to it -- and these attacks won't work.
I'm sure Rove will be thinking about disgusting memes to throw at Obama down the road. But there's a reason he's going public with his opposition to them now -- he wants his party to shut up before they permanently marginalize themselves.
Rove isn't saying not to take part in smear campaigns. He's saying that the particular smear campaign that involves saying "Barack Hussein Obama" has the capacity to backfire onto the smearers, therefore it doesn't meet the basic test as qualifying as a bona-fide turd-blossom. What makes him so good at being bad is that his smear campaigns can't be traced to their source, and can't be turned around any farther than saying "That's not fair!"
I also think it's a huge tactical mistake for the Repubs to use any of their far-right religious nut-cases against Obama. Obama's success at getting lots of people to come out and vote for him, people who would otherwise remain outside of the presidential political race, has resulted in there being a huge number of non-nut-cases who support him. Non-nut-cases could care less what somebody like Hagee or Cunningham think or say. Everytime Hagee or Cunningham or anyone else that comes from that Christian evangelical camp speaks out, a thousand more non-nut-cases are convinced to vote for Obama. Despite what the far-right religious nuts would like for us to know, there are waaayyy more us than of them.
RGS @ 35:
Karl Rove is a pedophile and has kiddy porn on his computer? I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking an innocent question and have to wonder about his ALLEGED interest in beasiality and necrophilia?
bmw 528 @ 37:
How true. Paradoxically, what goes around comes around.
Rove is just afraid that Drudge will print HIS full name: Carl Adolf Manson Rove.
By saying he disapproved of mentioning Obama's middle name "Hussein", porky has accomplished the smear by raising the topic and saying the name. Expect Faux News and porky to constantly bring up this faux issue and play the Saddam Hussein Name Association Game. A classic bank shot smear, porky's trademark.
Nah this meme is doing great at revealing bigots in their lairs. Keep it up.
Karl "Turdblossom" Rove appears to be very nuanced in his application of his specialty, mud slinging dirty trick politics. He understands that if one is going to say something completely false or with completely false implications about a political oponent one must do so anonymously so that the 70% of the electorate that sees through the cheap ploy won't know with 100% certainty who did it. The other 30% will fall for the ploy or be subconciously affected by it: mission accomplished. If the ploy is completely transparent then the 70% who can clearly place the blame will take it out on the supposed beneficiary of the ploy and the beneficiary will end up not benefitting but sufferring lost support. Further, timing is crucial. Last minute mud slinging of the cheap kind, which using the term Hussein is, will have an effect whereas if done far ahead of time it will backfire because the candidate will have plenty of time to respond and make the mudslingers look like what they are: scumbags. Take McCain black baby scandal as example. This ploy was done at the last minute so that McCain had no time to undo the damage that was done.
I think Rove's just trying to save his fat ass. He knows Obama WILL become the next President so he's trying not to piss off a man who could have him arrested for TREASON!
kkkarl is getting worried
his old tricks don't work so well under the light of day
too many people are watching this election
kkkarl wants to take his bag of tricks and hide, until it's safe,, and people ain't watching anymore ...
if too many people learn how kkkarl operates, the dirty tricks that kkkarl likes might become immpossible to hide in the future
this isn't about a single election. It's about kkkarl's future mealticket
michelle @ 20:
I think they are trying to divide us. You've got Rush telling his listeners (sheep) to vote for Clinton in Texas. Take anything you read or hear from the media or right wing nuts with a grain of salt. There is motive behind their rantings.
Rove can say what he wants.It doesn't change a thing about his history or reputation.
I for one will never forget this lowlife.But most people will.
I think Madonna does a great job at re-inventing herself, Karl Rove not so much. Still laughing.
I know I shouldn't comment because I can't watch a Rove clip, I simply refuse to give this POS any audience. And now I'm supposed to spew forth my contempt for him as a follow-up but I can't do that either. Well, maybe I can.. Karl Rove, you've passed the a-hole test, now please diminish and go into the West.
I go with "Calling Rove an overweight closeted gay queen would be wrong." Pass it on.
Brian @ 40:
LOL!
michelle @ 25:
68% of statistics are made up on the spot.
bilhelm-X @ 49:
Oh, if only we could just put him on a boat at the grey havens and send his ass away. . .
"We were not involved in the world before 9/11." -Karl Rove
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA
Phoenix Justice @ 13:
They are.
It's Me @ 26:
Except when the war is disastrously unpopular.
And, I don't know if you've noticed, but we're not really at war. There is no danger we're going to be attacked by Iraq. We're trapped in a soul-sucking occupation that the OVERWHELMING mass of the American population would like to end.
Because Keith Ellison has been soooooo bad for America
He and Kristol should become lovers. They are like a perfect match: don't they look like a pair of bookends? Two dough boys, that have never left the comfort of their armchairs, and both with fucked agendas. They'd get on like a house on fire.
slippytoad @ 52:
"Ninety percent of this game is mental, and the other half is physical." -Yogi Berra
Chopvac @ 6:
You gotta give Republicans credit though. They can actually train anal cysts to talk! (Rove, Limbaugh, et. al)
Ron @ 14:
Actually, it did happen. A Democrat, who happens to Muslim, ran for and won a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. If I am not mistaken, that is a "Federal" office.
Johnny2Bad @ 59:
hehe.what about the other half?
Phoenix Justice @ 61:
Isaid president but I think Ellison won by an overwhelming majority. Correct me if I'm wrong. If so, It shouldn't be an issue.
The only thing about which Rove has "standards" is that he wants his dirty politics, his smear campaigns, to be effective. There's been a lot of effort to smaer Obama by demonizing his middle name, and it hasn't worked. To Rove, telling the GOP to lay off calling Obama Barack "Hussein" Obama, it's all as partisan as he's always been, and I'm more than sure there will be plenty of whisper campaigns, push-polling and out-and-out lies to come. But this particular dog doesn't hunt. It's a waste of time, and potentially counterproductive when used by the people the GOP will need to further the other smears later. Common sense and decency don't always go hand and hand. Rove's comment about this matter are common sense, but the method to his madness is not based on decency.
slippytoad @ 52:
38% of 51% agree's with you.
ROTFLMBBAO!!!!
William Wallace @ 41:
Exactly right. Turd Bosom will keep this non-issue front and center by insisting no one make an issue of it.
mudshark @ 47:
There! I fixed it.
Filthy Harry @ 15:
Heh. A variation of this question was asked during (I think) the Miss America Pageant of 2004. They repeat the question sometimes on Howard Stern, mainly because the host that year - a football player, can't remember which one, but verbal skills were not his strongest suit - asked one of the contestans if she'd rather have a weak president with strong morals, or a strong president with weak morals. Gee, wonder who they were thinking of when they asked THAT question, wink wink. Anyway, the candidate said morality was VERY important to her, don't you know. Words to this effect: She'd rather have an incompetent boob in the White House who at least paid some lip service to Jesus than one of "them" no matter how good a President one of "them" might actually be.
The reich-wing litmus test for presidency is:
1) Do you have a "normal" middle name?
2) Do you wear a flag pin?
I've always had a problem with John McCain's real name too. Sounds too silver-spoonish to me:
John Sidney McCain III
Remember the last time we had a son of a rich father with a name like his father in office? Yikes.
CoIntelPro @ 68:
hehe, potatoes/tomatoes
Joementum @ 67:
sort of like CNN taking the cue from Russert and resurrecting farrakhan to respond to obama's response to, i.e., rejection of, farrakhan's support. let's see if McCantBeFascistEnough will be made to respond to Hagee's support, especially since it has been revealed that McFascistWannaBee had been courting Hagee the Hater for a year.
Since When did Karl Rove start taking the High Road in campaignes?
KayInMaine @ 71:
they usually use three names for assassins and serail killers. which one is johnny boy?
I have to say that I think that Mr Rove is departing from a lifetime of habit and publicly speaking the truth. Not from any ethical concern however. He knows that playing the race and religion card can only blow up in the Republican's collective faces. They have already captured all the votes that those attacks might gather and there are no further votes to be harvested with pure malice.
Peter G @ 76:
right,and as soon as it passes thru the media,the sooner it's forgotten.
Rico @ 31:
So let me see if I understand the argument. If I want the war in Iraq to end, I should vote for the candidate who supports the war to go on forever. By voting for the antiwar candidate, I am demonstrating my support for perpetual war.
What a fuckin fucktard!
ROVE: Look the “Hussein”…using his middle name helps Obama, it doesn’t hurt him. So anybody who wants to help John McCain ought to stop using…
Notice he didn't say not to use "Hussein" because it's unethical. Rove's point is that nyah-nyah name calling doesn't work when you shout it up front. Rove prefers whisper campaigns and vague, nasty insinuations.
That sneaky Rove. By just mentioning that Barak's middle name is Hussein and saying it's a low blow to negative campaign on it, Rove is actually publicizing the fact Barak's middle name is Hussein. The net result is the same -- more people are reminded Barak's middle name is Hussein.
Brilliant!
The Muslim and the anti-Semitic slurs delivered in one tidy package - all the while making himself out to be "concerned" - total b.s. - about this crap.
Well done, Karl!
The prospect of having to listen to this guy's bullshit for another twenty years is very depressing.
To the people who think this is some amazingly crafty reverse-psychology move - Have you been watching the Republican party lately? They're falling apart at the seams. Rove is trying his best not to alienate the swing voters, the independents, etc.
The racists and xenophobes weren't going to vote Obama anyway, so why try to win them over? No need to race-bait a candidate when his race is already implied.
in fairness to Rove, and I hate being fair to Rove, he's not talking about it in terms of right or wrong, he's talking about it in terms of tactics. And *gag* I have to say *gag* I *gag* agree with what he says-- What he says isn't that using "Hussein" is unethical or wrong, he says it backfires. And he's right--it does backfire. Just like Hillary's backfire in the debate about "words matter" that got her boos-- people don't want to be played for fools, and when Republicans use the middle name, they're trying to play their listeners for fools. Yeah, the Kool-aid drinkers over at LGF eat it up, but the majority of people think the person an idiot who tries to score cheap shots.
Excuse me while I go rinse my mouth out with turpentine.
and by the way, to my fellow Obama supporters-- don't call foul when people use his middle name. It makes us sound like we can't deal with it. Remember that scene in the Breakfast Club? A secret friend isn't a friend. Start practicing my favorite two words: "so what?"
Actually Turdblossom is pretty much right about wearing out the use of "Hussain". Remember back when we used to say 9/11 with reverence and respect? Well now, thanks to Rudy & his campaign, 9/11 can be used as a verb, a noun, an adjective or an adverb. Jokes are made about 9/11 regularly on the late nights & Comedy Central (no, not only The Daily Show & The Colbert Report), even the talking heads use 9/11 mocking those who joke about 9/11.
So by that logic, if Obamas middle name were to be a huge controversy, it would be rendered racist on the Repub side and worn with pride for all those who don't think of themselves as bigots. Actually a lot of folks who don't even know they are racist would feel cleansed by voting for Barack Hussain Obama.
The fools who chose to use that tactic are in for a lose/lose situation & Rove is trying to do damage control. I am sure he has other equally, but without racial overtones, sinister plots to use against Obama just collecting in his mind. He is learning a lot thru the Dems own primaries on what sticks & what falls flat.
He's giving important signals that we dismiss at our peril, if you are a progressive.
slippytoad @ 56:
This war is nowhere near as disastrously unpopular as the Vietnam War was in 1968. And the great "Commie Hunter" Hawk, Richard M. Nixon, won that election.
There has never been more information telling the American people how a president LIED us into this war as there was in 2004 and the great "stay the course" Hawk, George W. Bush, won that one.
As it was in the year leading up to the Nov., 2006, midterm elections, the Iraq War is not even at the top of the list of concerns for the American people at this point. But John McCain and his Republican Party Spin Machine (headed by GWB) can see to it that it is back on the top of the list as Nov., 2008 nears. And on their terms.
There is simply no case in U.S. history where the more hawkish candidate or the incumbent president who decides to run for reelection by demogoguing his war hasn't prevailed at a time of war.
When John McCain lines his stage with uniformed military officers and rank and file troops ready to extole the glory of everything thing we've "won" by being in Iraq, by surging in Iraq, by the honor they've enjoyed in "protecting the country" from evil and attack...what is "I am not your wartime president" Barack Obama's response going to be to the vast majority of American voters listening to that and wanting to believe it?
"but..but..but Hillary voted for the war!"?
Rove is an utter disgrace to the human race. Please put a gun in his hand and send him to the front line of Iraq where I am sure he can survive with his keen insight.
The bill for this war is starting to show its ugly head, and there will be no doubt in the taxpayer’s minds that this war is not only miserably unpopular to an extent heretofore never witnessed, but the bill that the average American will have to endure, and their children's children will pay will be recorded in history as one of the most useless wars in world history, along with the most insipid American President in U.S. history.
Concerned American @ 89:
I wouldn't want slippytoad to take the heat for making that observation when it was really me... ;)
In fact, I somewhat misspoke. The great "Commie Hunter" Hawk, Richard M. Nixon, didn't jus win the 1968 election when the Vietnam War was much more unpopular than the war we're involved in today...but he also won in 1972 (by a landslide) when the Vietnam War was even MORE unpopular than it was in '68!
Don't know if anyone has noticed this or not, but even before the Republican Spin Machine (with current commander in chief GWB at its head) has created conditions to make the Iraq War look like a pretty good idea leading up to the November election, McCain OFTEN beats both Obama and Clinton in head-to-head matchups on who Americans would vote for if the election were held today.
And McCain hasn't even got a convincing majority of Republicans behind him!
Karl Rove is truly a turdblossom(name fits perfectly). Feign indignation over using Obama's middle name, but bringing up that Farrakhan endorsement is B.S. and he knows it! Obama has distanced himself openly from Farrakhan's beliefs but the Turdhead still lays it out there, for all the sheeple to gulp down blindly!
The republicans want Obama to be the candidate because they think they have a better chance of beating him than Hillary. I don't believe that any large number of republicans are voting for Obama because they truly want him to be president. He is easier to slime. Can you imagine what they can do with the fact that he is black in parts of the country where significant parts of the population hold racist beliefs? Remember Harold Ford and the "call me" smear? They can start a racist campaign without officially being a part of it through you tube viral videos and the like.
It would be much more difficult to smear Hillary because about half the voters are female. Any smear against her being a woman is likely to backfire. And she has dealt with the right wing smear machine before. I think she has the best chance of beating Mc Cain.
Either Obama and Clinton would make a great president, and I will vote for the one who wins the democratic nomination.
Oh, Rove is planning to use the middle name meme all right.
He just wants the name to be as relatively unknown as possible for his October Surprise.
Barack should use his whole name. No big secret there.
FrankZ @ 92:
They will be running against BOTH:
Obama/Clinton '08
It's Me @ 90:
Nixon and the Cold War are NOT what we run against.
We run against the complicity of the R party in the most disastrous and evil illegal war in our history. Which has TRASHED our economy, and which has been accompanied by a fourfold increase in the size of gov't, and the partial erection of a surveillance state. If you think that's lost on the R (formerly-R?) public, just wait and see.
The Concern Trolls will NOT have a holiday this year until late November.
I hope you brought a squeegee-- you're going to need it. You Republican lights are walking sideways into a shit storm.
He is one uggglee mother-f**kr'! I've seen turds that look better than him.
yeah, When asked in public, I think it goes to far. In the private darkness in the GOP sewer system.
I yell, splash the sucker with slop.
Good ole Turdblossom. Never could tell when he was lying or just spinning.
The only only standards that TURD BLOSSUM has is from the GUTTER, only the CORPRATE CONTROLED MEDIA would say any thing Different, becaues he is there boy, now and for ever.
I never ever believe anything a stupid lying republican has to say.
rove is just like bush and the rest of the true republicans fools idiots liars pedophiles and out right greedy assholes.
They have no place in government and should not be given and form of power, they don't have the mental acuity, the moral groundings, or the integrity to handle the reins of power.
republicans become the very thing they say they fear when ever they get any power. Then they cannot see what they are doing, because they will not look past the greed!
Happens every time.
Rove Claims To Have Standards On Negative Campaigning
Yes, the sleazier the better.
He got the higher-ups in the publican party's attention by bugging his own candidate's o for Texas governor's office, and then blaming the other side.
Christy Hannity @ 4:
Rove never finished college - his highest degree is his high school diploma.
"ROVE: ‘Cause I think people look at it and say, ‘look, that’s one step too far. You’re trying to leave an implication that he is a Muslim when I know he’s not.’ ..."
That's a really interesting turn of phrase. The insinuation is that it's scandalous and shameful to be a Muslim, and the comment is inserted into the discussion in a way that pretty much goes unnoticed. Rove is trying to make himself appear as if he were principled and above the fray, offering sage advice. But he's working a carefully crafted propaganda meme into the body of his argument that has nothing to do with Obama's faith. I think he intended that his message be the principal take-away and that it's delivery would be subliminal: "Muslims are bad. Muslims are evil. Anybody who is a Muslim should be ashamed. You are, of course, right to hate Muslims, but save that hate for those who rightfully deserve it." He has crafted and is working a manipulation that support his deeper agenda. His method, clumsy as it is, works like hypnosis, if nobody notices what he is trying to do.
What amazes me about this stupid motherfucker is that he thinks no one will ever notice his absolute compulsion to control all others through manipulation, when that compulsion is the defining trait of his malignant personality. Rove is somewhat clever and cunning, in the fashion of a predator, but he isn't very bright. And, he is a consummate fool.
What this middle name game has done is exactly what the far right wing wants it to do and that is dominate the airwaves with the middle name bullshit. Nobody cares and nobody is thinking about it. But that is all the right wing nut jobs can think and talk about. Instead of talking about Iraq, Afghanistan, Osama Bin Laden, the economy, candidates qualifications, Republican candidates flip flopping etc.
How about gutting our Justice Department and instilling minions from Liberty University to help corrupt our voting system? How about framing a Democrat running for Governor of Alabama and creating a political prisoner is the USA? How about outing a CIA operative? That is not going too far now is it Terd Lily?
** We have plans for you Carl and they commence once that brain-dead disaster that you help instill with the help of the Supreme Court leaves office**
Hans Von Sparkovsky
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/26/spakovsky-primer/
Bradley Schlozman
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003436.php
Kyle Sampson
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/sampson.php
Tim Griffin
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Rove_aide_aggressively_sought_US_Attorney_...
Rachel Palouse
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/gonzales-assistant/
Mark "Thor" Hearne
http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=4418
Monica Goodling
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/002933.php
Rove: It's wrong to point out Barack Hussien Obama's ties to Islamic terrorism. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
would someone... Anyone, just kick that fuckers ass please...JD
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