Super Tuesday Part Deux
By Jamie Monday Mar 03, 2008 10:02pmFrom the never ending primary season.
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Let's go Barack. We need Change.
Obama takes Vermont. One down. Three to go tonight.
Keith just asked Andre Mitchell what would need to happen tonight to force CLinton to drop out. Her response: If she loses Texas and Ohio.
Fine. Then that's the way it shall be.
"So be it, Jedi."
Well, it looks like it's gone from a mathmatical impossibility for Hillary to win to a mathmatical impossibility that Hillary can win.
lol
She needs a combined percent win of 25% between the two big states, otherwise she cannot win mathematically.
Example:
Ohio:
C - 60, B - 40
Texas:
C - 52, B - 47
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If this DOES NOT HAPPEN, she will have to bow out before Pennsylvania on April 22nd (can you imagine waiting that long???)
The more fear mongering I hear, the less and less I like Hillary. She sometimes talks like a Republican.
Big question of the evening: Will Hillary be Singing ‘O-h-io’?
So now with this first report of Vermont's votes, Barack's won 12 states. How many has Hillary won again? (I know this doesn't determine who gets the nomination, but it sounds good if I just had the Hillary figure.)
Ohio polls are about to close. Exit polls so far are showing Obama 51 to Clinton 49.
Texas: Obama 50 to Clinton 49
Rhode Island Obama 49 to Clinton 49
It's too close and too early.
Guys, what the hell are you doing calling a state for a certain person with only 0% of the precincts having reported? Can't you wait until there are least 50% of the precincts reporting? This is nuts and this is one of the reasons voters get disillusioned.
Exit Polls:
VT Obama - 67, Clinton - 33
OH Obama - 51, Clinton - 49
TX Obama - 50, Clinton - 49
RI Obama - 49, Clinton - 49
That seems awefully close for Hillary to gain any ground in delegates.
Phoenix Justice @ 10:
Exit polls show a pretty good blowout.
I'm exhausted. I was born and raised in Milwaukee so I'm trying to cope with Favre retiring. The last thing I need is for Barak to lose Texas and Ohio by a point and for Hillary to let this race linger on so she can destory the Democratic Party.
Seriously....to all the Hillary supporters.....if she loses either Texas or Ohio, can you agree that she should drop out first thing in the morning and help unite the party against John McCain? If this thing drags out for April, McCain will win in November by a landslide.
But, but, but Rush wants Hillary to win!
Vermont is a very good example for Barack. With a 95% white demographic it clearly shows his cross demographic draw.
His message is one of hope and dog-gone-it people like him.
Leslie @ 9:
Texas is just about to start caucusing, Barack always does well on those.
Why no analysis on the margins of these victories? Obama has won almost every contest by double digits. The big states that Hillary has won, not necessarily so. Even if Obama wins only two states tonight, it's not necessarily bad considering just the following: he started with a 20 point deficit in Texas and Ohio, and for the past week he's had to run a campaign against two Clintons, a Bush, and a McCain.
The key for me to watch tonight is the margin of Hillary's victories, and of course those "things" that the talking heads seem to have forgotten about tonight....the delegates.
ConcernedCanuck @ 11:
Sure hope you're correct.
Anti-War Vermont Declares War on Hillary
VietVet8666 @ 18:
As long as it's close, she actually loses because of the delegate numbers. Please Dems, stick a fork in her, and get set campaigning against McShouldaRetiredAlreadyTwoDecadesAgo
I read in the Huffington Post that Deanna Favre has written a blog to all Green Bay Packers fans that she will be ready DAY ONE to be the starting QB for the Packers because her experience as Brett Favre's wife is way more than Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench the last three years and giving locker room pep talks.
I hope all you Obama supporters won't be too crushed when he wins the Presidency and then does none of the promises he's made over the last year. Lets face facts. He's a politician. Clinton is a politician. McCain is a politician. They make promise after promise after promise, feed on your fears and hopes to get your vote then once they have won they do nothing they promised they were going to do. I don't really don't think McCain has a chance in hell of winning the election. It will be whatever Democrat gets the nomination. They really aren't that much different. I think they only voted differently twice. It doesn't matter anyway. Neither of them are going to do anything about NAFTA, health insurance, the war or anything else. Whoever wins is going to need a giant pooper scooper to clean up the mess left for them by out dictator-in-chief and you'll hear all kinds of negative horrible things about the way they have to do it.
Slaw @ 6:
She is a Republican, albeit half-assed or lite, but make no mistake who or what she is. 1 down, 3 to go!
SiteMon: Forgive my previous exuberance, but we're so close to getting rid of her :)
Phoenix Justice @ 10:
I can understand why voters get disillusioned, but it's largely because they don't understand the science behind projections.
The percentage of precincts reporting is entirely irrelevant to making a scientifically accurate projection. Projections are (a) based on exit polling; and (b) based on applying statistical and mathematical formulae to the patterns in which people vote.
It's all actually quite fascinating. Patterns of behavior in the morning can actually yield predictions of behavior later in the day.
Sometimes, it won't be possible to project until almost all the precincts have reported. Other times, it is possible from the get go.
Mister Anderson @ 21:
I think she wants to play center.
Flashback to shortly after the Maryland-DC-Virginia primaries: Almost everybody (even the Clinton supporters) agreed that Hillary would have to win both Texas and Ohio by double digit margins to remain viable in the delegate count, and thus in the primaries. Now today...it's an entirely different story. What's that about?
Hillary will still stay in. As long as she CAN fight she will. Even if she loses all four, the hypothetical possibility of getting all the SuperD's and somehow getting MI and FL delegates to be recognized will keep her machine running.
Right, there's no difference between the GOP and the Dems. If Al Gore were in the White House instead of Bush, we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq, we wouldn't have walked away from the NPT, we wouldn't have destroyed the surplus and created a huge deficit [in order to gut the social safety net], there might not have been a 9/11 [since Gore would've paid heed to all the pre-9/11 warnings], there might not have been an Enron, the Constitution wouldn't have been gutted, the White House wouldn't be illegally spying on everyone...I could go on.
Mister Anderson @ 21:
BURST OUT LOUD LAUGHING. Thank you.
Ron @ 25:
Why not? Isn't it her turn?
Mister Anderson @ 21:
Bwaaaaaahahaha.......that's hilarious!
Mister Anderson @ 21:
Nice
P.S. My comment was in response to Giemeabreak, #22.
Rico @ 26:
Thats about spin. The full time news outlets desperately want the race to go on. Its fun and easy. But listening to NPR today they did state rather calmly that HRC needed double digit wins in both states to catch up to Obama.
giemeabreak @ 22:
If things continue the way they are, you are absolutely right. But I think what Obama is telling us is to beware of candidates with all the answers, fixes and solutions to your problems. We're not going to change this country from the top down. Revolutions never work that way.
giemeabreak @ 22:
We'll be okay, don't worry about us. I trust that you won't be too crushed when Obama wins the Presidency and then turns out to be quite a good President after all?
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 300:
RIGHT!!! I pray Obama can somehow turn this around to make the pants changing bigots show the true color of their undies
Shoot! Thought I was watching McCain give his victory speech; turned out it was Lawrence Welk.
Damn...this is alot closer in TX than I was hoping for. If Clinton finds a way to pull this out and secure the nomination the I'm done with this frickin party and the election. I probably have better things to with my time than obsessing over a bunch of political blogs anyway...
Thank you, Hillary, for miring the Democratic Party in BS and fear while McCain clinches the nomination.
If anybody had said a year ago that Hillary was going to help the Republicans keep the White House, we'd've laughed... okay, maybe not.
But if anybody had said a year ago that Hillary was going to help the Republicans keep the White House by acting as a spoiler for the Democratic nominee which wasn't her, we'd've laughed.
And now, in her relentless ambition, she's shitting where she lives and it only helps the authoritarian scumbags in the Republicanite Party.
Thanks, Hillary!
I'm starting to get nauseous at the thought of having to ever listen to McCain speak publicly. It is so painful I just switched over to elevator music on a weather channel. Meantime, I cannot fathom accepting another 4-8 years of the Clinton-Bush duopoly. This crap is starting to piss me the %&*@ off.
xoites defends Constitution @ 353:
you and me both xoites..............
Merp™ @ 350:
Most of what they yell is;
"Eh? What time is it?"
"I don't wanna go back to the home"
"I gotta bingo!"
"Who are these people?"
mo_dem @ 354:
Jeb Bush
I can see why people are voting for Clinton. She's more well known, and with Vince Foster and Whitewater, all the bad news seems to be out. Obama is more unknown so people may be concerned of a bombshell later on after the nomination.
By electing Clinton over Obama, we will be waiving one big distinction in the fall campaign, namely enemy recognition. Obama opposed the war back in 2002, and clearly articulated the reasons why, and therefore showed much better judgment than Clinton/McCain. On the other hand, if people think the Democrat is going to win anyhow absent a big bombshell, Clinton may be the safer bet. Lets see, on health care, Clinton/Obama are going to do something, whereas McCain is going to stick his head in the sand and do nothing like GWB - could be enough to win.
I voted Obama on super Tuesday, but I can see why people would consider Clinton. When that call comes in at 3:00AM, so long as she says to Bill, "Honey, would you get that?", we may be getting the experience she is representing. Otherwise, I have no idea what she's talking about concerning experience. The Clinton years were good years for many of us, and I don't think people would mind if Bill was calling some of the shots in the background. In fact, I think some people are hoping for exactly that in the election of H. Clinton.
3chordgroove @ 363:
Don't lose focus on the popular vote in Texas. It's about delegates damn it, and we won't know the Texas results until tomorrow or later.
Ron @ 14:
.
And, more, Ron - he was much more EXPLICIT: shillary is doing repigs DIRTY job on Obama:
“” He also said Clinton is more willing than the Republican National Committee and John McCain’s campaign to criticize Barack Obama.
“We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically. It’s obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it, they don’t have the stomach for it,” ……. I want our party to win I want the Democrats to lose.”
ConcernedCanuck @ 368:
oh lawd.
Whoever said it's painful to listen to McCain, I hear ya...
Even with Bush, you can at least anticipate some horrible English, but McCain has nothing. It's not exciting. No sense of humor. No stage presence. The only thing you can do is to count the "My Friends" unit.
And Cindy McCain reminds me of Pai Mei from Kill Bill Vol 2.
ConcernedCanuck @ 348:
You need to straighten out your piece of the world before you ask ridiculous questions.
BREAKING NEWS: Presumptive GOP nominee McCain: ‘The contest begins tonight’
Holy sh*t.
Hillary. End it. Millions on new TV ads attacking Obama will be reeeeeeeally helpful. I hope she knows that these ads will be used as references for the rethug ads, copied, replayed, used in debates to ask Obama to explain to McCain in front of the audience "what Hillary really meant by all that, Mr. Obama, are you that bad?" while McCain will be laughing like crazy.
I'm sure she can do better than the "3am" spot. Obama may be showed as waaaaaay weaker than that. So many months. Why not go totally negative on a fellow democrat?
We're gonna be fuc*ed, but that's Hillary. You've gotta love her.
NoBuddy @ 369:
Shoveling dirt does not become you.
ConcernedCanuck @ 367:
lol. .. "Where's my geritol!?"
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 374:
You live in my piece of the world, and voting for somebody new would help that out immensely. We northern idiots warned you not to vote for Bush...TWICE...and you didn't listen. Now we are being polite and warning you again not to vote for Hillary Lieberman. Are you listening? NOPE. I even read on a liberal blog (I kid you not) one person posted "dang, I'm starting to like Hillary and think she'd be great to have a beer with and chat".......How f'ing stupid is that?
ron @ 375:
So if she wins Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island tonight she should go against all wishes of the folks who voted for her and quit....riiiiiiiight. Wow. Sad.
CappuccettoRosso @ 371:
ludicrous...............just wait ,
Scooter @ 306:
oooooooo
Legal challenges in Texas and strong hints that the Clintons will want to discount the Texas results.
I'm at a caucaus in Houston where a Republican operative was walking around outside telling people they could sign there choice on her clipboard and go home. It seems she was there since before the pollls closed and managed to get quite a number of Democrats to sign and leave before she was found out. She was questioned outside in front of everyone and all people she approached were asked to step up and identify her. She was taunted as she left the premises covering her face. The constables arrived 15 minutes after that but I don't know if their arrival was related to the operatives discovery.
Though she covered her face, I have to believe she wasn't ashamed. Not if she had the guts to do this. I also have to believe she was not operating alone, unless she's extremely ballsy. Her accomplices probably snuck out.
Disgusticunts is what we should call the Repugnicunts.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 312:
Being in Ohio, I'm ashamed tonight. We deserve the ridicule. We Ohio Dems. apparently like the Republican Hillary Clinton. WTF? We bitch about NAFTA, but like then vote for the one who likes it. But then again, apparently Race was an issue according to MSNBC, and for those that thought it was one, voted for Clinton, 60-40. Again, WTF? If we're the bell weather state, then we need a new one.
The Republican Party must be laughing their asses off. Hillary will pick up three of four wins, and the fight continues until there is nothing left for the general election. AND on top of that, she has proven without a doubt that negative campaigning will still work on the electorate in November. Fear beats hope. Yippee. Can't wait to see that first federal budget next year with the 30% increase in military spending, the cuts to social services, and the increased borrowing. Gad bless America.
Is Ohio going to go for McCain campaigner Hillary Clinton?
3chordgroove @ 363:
Hillary has to win Texas and Ohio by 62% to overcome Obamas pledged delegate count.
Look at the states left on real clear politics, Hillary can win Penn all day and Obama take the rest and he's still ahead of her by a couple of hundred...
On the flip side for Clinton to think about bowing out Obama will have to win Texas by 75% and Ohio by 60...that aint happening.
I think Penn and Carolina will be the battle grounds next...
mudshark @ 380:
No kidding Muddy, if these whippersnappers think Hilliary is "BEING MEAN" just wait until the rightwing attack dogs get started. Trust me, they've got their arsenal all lined up.
Itty bitty RI
repugs want to keep the dems fighting so mccain can slip in.
Rico @ 382:
Well according to CNN, Obama filed a lawsuit to keep Ohio polls opened later.
ron @ 375:
oh please...you are worried about st john?
i hate negative campaigns....but the dems can run ruffshod on the idiot
dont worry about the repugs....worry about all the dems and independents that have been turned off by hillary's campaign
My wife and one of her friends have decided to support Sen. Obama in his presidential bill.
My wife is from the Japanese fishing village of Tateyama and her friend is from Yokohama.
That makes my wife (a mother of two) a "Tateyama Obama mamma" and her friend (also a mother of two) a "Yokohama Obama mamma."
I just like saying "Tateyama Obama mamma." Thought I would share.
I wonder how much of the neocon vote for Hillary was because of Limbaugh or because they voted for the lying, fear-mongering, cheating candidate out of instinct.
This is the level of ignorance and stupidity to be found in Texas, and probably in Ohio.
A coworker was still uncertain which Democratic candidate to vote for at 5pm today. She's a republican, mind you, but has been talking about voting for a Democratic candidate this time. I called her to find out if she had made a choice. She decided Hillary was going to win in Ohio and Texas and would eventually be the Democratic candidate for president which would drive many people to vote for McCain instead of her so McCain is going to be the President so she voted for him. Unfortunately she fears McCain and thinks he's an evil warmonger and isn't sure he's all there anymore. But she voted for him.
GEEZ! Makes me ashamed that my fellow Texans fear enlightenment and vote against their best interests.
I'm very curious as to why so many Americans think Canada got their jobs because of NAFTA. Those jobs were exported to China. That has nothing to do with NAFTA.
Leslie @ 28:
And we would have Lieberman running. Don't forget that.
"The Illinois senator was pressed by reporters at a news conference about his relations with the 52-year-old real estate developer and fast-food magnate. Rezko is charged with buying political influence with campaign money .
"Tony Rezko was a friend and supporter of mine for many years. There's no dispute that he raised money for us, and there's no dispute that we've tried to get rid of it," he added.
"Obama ended his day and his campaigning in Texas — with a noisy late-night rally in Houston. Repeating a signature election refrain, he shouted: "I have only one question for you: Are you fired up? Ready to go?" When the crowd roared its approval, he added, "Let's go change the world."
(Uuurrrp.) Oppps, excuse me.
Hillary means more of the same.
Obama means lots of people who want their government back.
Vote for one or the other.
Don Davis @ 19:
spam much?
Also I think this is going to be a long night.
Phoenix Justice @ 10:
I totally agree. I think they should use exit polling as a meter but definitely not as an official "call" on the winner. NH proved by 7,000 votes that it's fallible.
Mister Anderson @ 13:
I don't think she should quit. Unless her delegate count was waaaaay behind Barack, then yes. But that's not the case. Last time I checked, the US is a democracy still and there are at least 10 pleaces that have yet to vote for their candidates. Just because the MSM has chosen Barack as the candidate (because he makes better TV) doesn't mean the rest of the country should give up on voting for him or for Hillary.
But then again, I live in FL so what I say or vote doesn't count anyway.
Rico @ 35:
No, he's telling you not to ask too many questions. Bamboozles work that way.
McCain has taken Ohio. His nomination is all but official.
Ohio, too close to call for the Democrats with 1% reporting.
Obama looking to sweep, and his chances are looking good right now.
Ron @ 36:
He isn't? I coulda swore he was running against Obama.
One of them needs to give it up soon. I really don't care who, but there is going to a big issue of uniting voters behind just one of them if this continues.
giemeabreak @ 22:
Not me. I think we're all fucked. It would take a brilliant wise president WITH the help of an apolitical and acquiescing congress to fix the mess Bush will leave us in. I'm just in it for the fun of the race and even better seeing HRC lose whom I don't like.
ConcernedCanuck @ 43:
For VP. Not what he wanted.
giemeabreak @ 22:
So, are you simply a pessimistic fatalist, or do you have any suggestions for improving on things?
Curtis Robert Tyree @ 383:
Rural Ohioans LOVESSSSSSSSS watching their factories close down and their jobs being shipped overseas. I guess it gives them something to bitch about at coffee shops. They don't want SOLUTIONS! They want PROBLEMS!
Curtis Robert Tyree @ 383:
race is an issue in ohio???
thats pretty effed up
i thought it was more of the ohioans buying into the story that obama was just paying them lip service on nafta
i know one thing....if obama gets routed in ohio, and as its a very important swing state....the clintons are gonna be all over the fact that he will not be able to win in the general
Strawberrybitch @ 387:
It's not a question of Hillary "Being Mean". It's a question of this particular party showing the rest of the country that it's not the same as the group of assholes that are already in office. Christ almighty, I feel like screaming every time I read this crap.
The point is this- If Hillary is throwing out attack ads on people she's supposedly going to be working with to try to get things done just to scare up votes, she's not any better than those asses who used 9-11 and terrorism to push it's agenda the last 5 years.
Please, don't make me scream. My neighbors don't like it.
ConcernedCanuck @ 378:
HAHAHAHHA
You warned us?
Twice?
Like I said, clean up your garbage before you start with the US.
You voted for a first classasshole in Canada.
MSNBC is reporting that they haven't counted the votes for the county that Houston is in today. Once they count Houston, he should open up a 5 point lead.
Tim in Japan @ 391:
too funny!!!
And here we were, all worried about Ralph Nader being the Ralph Nader for 2008.
Turns out Hillary Clinton is the Ralph Nader for 2008.
Thanks, Mrs. Inevitable!
Now that the GOP race is over, watch for a flood of Republican money flowing into Hillary's campaign over the next 7 weeks.
Peter G @ 394:
its not just nafta, its every free trade agreement we have made
ConcernedCanuck @ 384:
ridiculous......the gen election is a whole new ball game.and I want someone who will fight like their life depends on it.HRC has shown her softer side in this primary election....................wait till she goes after the repugs.
xoites defends Constitution Says:
"Shoveling dirt does not become you.
Calling it as I see it. I personally want Obama, but I think a lot of people want Bill Clinton for a 3rd term, and think in electing Hillary, sort of getting it. You think Hillary would be a factor if not for Bill's presidency? Hell, no.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 390:
You have that right.
Looks like her pathetc republican-like attacks are working... It won't be enough to change the delegate count though...
I wonder if she is going to try to be McCain's running mate?
And someone needs to remind John McCain to be true to himself, and NOT pander to the right "wing nuts", if he wants to win in November, with the support of Independents and moderate Republicans -- the REAL Conservatives!!
http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://RealConservativesSpeak.com
Rico @ 402:
Which would be really weird, since they didn't flood their own candidates coffers with money through the election thus far.
I'm an Independent fully supporting Obama. I tell you, if Hillary gets the nomination I will not vote for her. Nor will I EVER vote for McCain...I'll vote for Nader. I really wonder how many other Independents feel that way. The way I see it, if Hillary wins the nomination, McCain will win the general...then we're at war with Iran within 18 months. God I hope Obama gets the nomination.
Reporting from Texas at 9:27pm, Hillary leads, 50% to 48% over Obama.
It's over. The only way Clinton could possibly win is if she were to go ultra-negative. If she were somehow able to win the nomination this way there's no way in hell she could win the general election. The party would be trashed and all us Obama folks would be more than happy sittng on the sidelines. It's over.
krisken @ 397:
Bullshit. All the racist crap I see is from republican moles. They're playing you very nicely. MY PREDICTION! If Obama wins than McCain will win in November. There is no way, no way, the salt of the earth, middle of the road, squishy main stream folks will vote for an African American male with a middle eastern name. Period. This is a country that let poor, black people die on rooftops for weeks after Katrina, and poor retarded black folks where shot in the back. You have more faith in my country than I do.
I'm voting for Edwards.
wait..what?
49-49 even in TX. I guess I was wrong about Texans..... I thought they had more sense.
The "never ending primary season" is a meme the right wing media has been promoting for months now. It's a self fulfilling prophecy, much like the bogus polls that manipulate turnout. It's sad to see our democracy destroyed by corporate fascism.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 398:
I didn't vote for him. And he certainly didn't get the percentage of voter support that Bush did.....TWICE....so.......hmmm......who has to clean up garbage? Last I checked, we weren't running around the world bombing anything that moved (except Afghanistan, but that was a backroom deal)........I think I'm understanding now though why the Clinton campaign blames everyone and anything on it's failures....it's the American way!!! By the way, you better kiss class asshole Harper's ass. If a government was elected that didn't quite kiss american ass so much, they might have doubts on the oil pipeline. Hate to see you guys pay more for your gas than you do now, what with your economy dragging everyone else's into the shitter. But again, that is none of my business, cuz everyone knows the American economy doesn't affect me up here right? Wow. Just wow. Now I know why Bush has been Prez for 8 years. EEk.
I welcome the GOP votes for HRC......it'll make it that much easier to beat McCain.But it's not really necessary.Dems are turning out over 2 to 1.............no,it won't make that much of a difference.People are sick and tired of the GOP and their shenanigans.The GOP was bound to lose some of their voters anyway.
It's amazing but Florida and Michigan really f'ed things up for Hillary. If only they'd follow the rules, their delegates may have counted and Hillary Clinton would have been in a better position. If I'm Hillary, I'm begging the DNC to take Florida's governor offer for a redo. It's better to have those states redo their primaries than risk a convention floor fight because she'd ain't leaving the race. She'll fight and go negative right now and I don't think that would be the case if those two states were still in play. Florida and Michigan are important states for Democrats so allowing them a chance to be seated and make a difference despite the stupidity of the their elected officials is important. Just sayin...
Obama is gaining ground....slowly.... in Ohio.
Strawberrybitch @ 412:
There is no way, no way, the salt of the earth, middle of the road, squishy main stream folks will vote for an African American male with a middle eastern name. Period. This is a country that let poor, black people die on rooftops for weeks after Katrina, and poor retarded black folks where shot in the back. You have more faith in my country than I do.
Sad to say...this is probably true.
Strawberrybitch @ 412:
either you arent watching closely, or you are choosing not to watch
bill clinton....brings up jessie jackson
hillary clinton....waffles on her thoughts about obama being a muslim
clinton campaign...darkens pic of obama
clinton campaign...releases photo of obama dressed in traditional muslim garb
hillary clinton....sends operatives like you out to blogs to say that no one will vote for a black man in general election
Sorry to say it, but these results are complete and utter horseshit.
ConcernedCanuck @ 416:
I have a question for you.
during the 90's when BC was Prez...........................how was your economy?
Room314 @ 418:
fuck em...they miscalculated
they can sit...but they cant vote
thats life
YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 386:
Yeah but, the MSM and will spin this as the political equivalent of Miracle on Ice; never mind she was up 20% two weeks ago. By the time the weekly news cycle is done with this, Hillary gets the positive press and reassumes the luster of Mrs. Inevevitible while the pundits do the post mortem on the Obama campaign. Sad to say, but 11 straight wins is going to seem like a lifetime ago if Obama can't hold on in Texas...
gowest272004 @ 414:
These are ALL early votes. And Houston hasn't reported anything yet.
Revolution time, anyone?
The total thug vote in any state tonight is still about half of what the SECOND place dem is getting.
Obama will be the preznit. Parse out the wins however you will. Not even the superdelegates screw this for him at this point.
YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 400:
Thanks.
Another item of note is that in central Japan, there is a city named, Obama. They are all about Sen. Obama and hope to host him if he wins the presidency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama,_Fukui
mo_dem Says:
Don Davis @ 19:
Anti-War Vermont Declares War on Hillary
spam much?
Also I think this is going to be a long night.
F*ck You mo_dem!
& F*ck Your FreeDUMBS!
welcome losers , mccain and diebold a winning team!
Karen,
I think giemeabreak wants us to be afraid about all the negative horrible things that might be said about the Democratic nominee. Are you scared?
Leslie @ 50:
I don't fear the inevitable. I prepare for it. ;)
Come on Hillary!!!
Give McCain more ammo against Obama!!!
Join the Lieberman club.
We all know that YOU becoming President is more important than saving the country!!!
Karen,
:-)
Filthy Harry @ 29:
Awesome!
[We're not sure what you're trying to say, but we're going to wave goodbye now. sitemonitor.]
[Thanks. I was just about to do that. Funny how earlier this guy wanted a link in the blogroll earlier-Sitemonitor]
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
Lithium, aisle one....
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
On the worst days of my life I never felt as negative as you.
Filthy Harry @ 27:
Used to be Americans didn't like Quitters. Don't know what happened I suppose the herds like to toss things at losers?
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
Dipping into the cooking sherry again? When the people in the white coats come to offer you a strappy-jacket thingy, try to remember.....they're your friends.
Everytime Obama wins, I will play the Guess Who song "American Woman". : ) GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
Hey, John Amato, did you hire a clown to amuse us? TY!
gowest272004 @ 61:
Idiotic.
Something like James Brown's Sex Machine would be better.
Get on up
Like a sex machine
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
Lay off the valium, buddy.
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 64:
I demand to be told to fuck off in a singular post. I will not share with filthy harry!
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 65:
Maybe cuz nobody can figure out what the hell you are saying??
I'm confused. Yahoo just posted a story with the headline "McCain, Obama win Vermont." But only 2% of the precincts have reported in. I don't doubt that he will win by a large margin, but isn't that jumping the gun a tad?
ConcernedCanuck @ 65:
Oh, I dunno. It's not that hard to figure out.
S/He's reduced religious fervor to the following: Freedom is antithetical to god. Obey god, and don't seek freedom, for the end is nigh.
That's what a lot of religions say. These posts are just a more entertaining way of receiving the message.
God? FreeDUMB? nothing in common @ 55:
Yeah, I tried, but I am really clueless on this one.
I got a copy of Deanna's post on the Huffington Post:
"After 17 years of dedicated service to the NFL's smallest city, my husband, Brett Favre, has decided to step away from the game that he has loved to play since he was a little boy in Kiln, Mississippi. When he was elected to replace Don Majikowski in 1992, he lead the Green Bay Packers to victory and forever changed its history through the rest of the 90s. Even though the Packers only have one Superbowl trophy to show for his 17 years of service because he passed the ball to the opposing team early and often, history will show that Favre was the best thing to ever happen to the state and the NFL.
To continue his legacy, I, Deanna Favre, is proud to announce that I am running for Starting Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. Though I have never run a offense in my life, I have a ton of football experience and learned home to play the game from the luxury box. I have cheered for Brett since high school, experienced all of his trials and tribulations, and scanned through his playbooks when he was sleeping. I will take credit for all of his touchdown passes and victories, but none of his interceptions and losses. I did not read his playbook before the NFC Championship game when the Packers were defeated because I knew the Giants could have been easily beaten, but I believe Coach Mike McCarthy failed to execute the game plan properly.
My opponent, Aaron Rodgers, has never started a NFL game. He has never done a cameo interview on Monday Night Football. He has never rode on the Madden Cruiser. He doesn't know what it feels like to play in the frozen tundra of Lambea Field in January from the luxury box. He is a young kid from California who is all style but no substance. What has he accomplished by benching behind my husband the last three years? He gives great speeches in the locker room and in the huddle, but how deep can he throw off of his back foot?
In July during training camp, you have to ask yourself Cheesehead Nation: Who do you trust to lead a 2-minute drill in the 4th quarter with the game on the line?
I am tested. I have been vetted. I will be ready from DAY ONE to lead the Green Bay Packers to the Superbowl.
My name is Deanna Favre and I approve this message."
L.A. Confidential @ 58:
I don't want her to quit. I think the longer the Dems get to control the narrative of who they are to the public, the less the impact will be when the right-wing/swiftboat attack machine unloads on the eventual nominee in the general. My only concern is that (without naming names) that the candidates be dignified and graceful with each other and more important, whoever the loser is, leaves the race with dignity and grace. If that happens, its all good.
This was my first primary so if Obama doesn't win Ohio I will become disillusioned and never participate in politics again.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 403:
No offense Joe but you should get an outside view. American trade negotiators enjoy a fearsome reputation in the world at large. They control access to the largest market in the world and have shown not the slightest disinclination to use that clout.They do have a very corporatist view and they are often willing to sacrifice sectoral advantage for an overall win.They gave up a large piece of steelmaking to foreign manufactuers but produced ten times as many jobs producing goods with that cheap imported steel. The real issue right now is the deal with China. China has pretty much unrestricted access to the U.S. while the U.S. is looking to win in telecom, insurance and other services as well as high tech and aerospace. This has nothing to do with NAFTA. Look at the country of origin label on goods at Walmart and Sam's Club and tell where the jobs are going.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 421:
C'mon Uncle Joe................give us the links and proof of what you're sayin.
Hillary Clinton is the new... DECIDER!!
THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT.
Strawberrybitch @ 412:
I'm not talking about the racist crap. I'm speaking about the ludicrous ads promoting the fear instinct.
Don't tell me that I'm being played, and stop acting like you're a damn omnipotent being. This "I know more than everyone else" act is sickening, and to be quite honest, reeks of post-pubescent egocentrism.
Be as bitter and angry as you want, watch what that gets accomplished.
Any news on Kucinich?
F Chucklenutz @ 420:
Sad to say...this is probably true.
I'm a gen-xer black mail and I can see younger people voting for Obama because we didn't grow up with the racism between white and black baby boomers.
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