March 06, 2008 04:51 PM
A course of study FOX News and The White House could use.
Ha ha, just kidding, Mister Murdoch! Strange Tales (syndicated):
The BBC is spending more than $1 million to teach its staff the importance of telling viewers the truth. Vin Ray, director of the BBC's college of journalism, said the cost of taking 17,000 workers off the job for the two-hour training seminar would add at least another $1 million to the cost. Mark Thompson, the BBC's director general, ordered the training after the broadcaster admitted a series of bogus broadcasts, including made-up winners for phone-in contests and a misleading promotional video for a documentary about Queen Elizabeth.
BBC is good stuff.
The BBC is government-funded - they have to be at least somewhat truthful.
The corporate media in the USA is not and does not. So they ARE not.
What they don't tell you is that they invent the truth.
Estella Brandybuck @ 2:
yeah right, its the 'truth' as the government sees it. esp under the pain of a 'D' notice,
or as Tony 'Smiler' Blair did in 1997 after becoming PM inviting all the UKs MSM to Downing Str for a chat.
The BBC is a propaganda machine with entertainment bits bolted onto it, they get the lions share of its publicity.
It would probably be a good seminar for most journalists. The subject is not covered in most journalism schools.
Maybe we could take up a collection? Nah.
An example of BBC 'truth' as explained by the hapless BBC employee Richard Porter and incredulous correspondents to the BBCs forums.
They cant deny it, its there to see at archive.org world media archives and Youtube et al,
They just hope people will forget and 'nothing to see here,move on',
but the BBC did manage to magically lose ALL copies of their charter regulated archive tapes of that infamous day.
One of the biggest problems with Faux and Rush and Beck and oh crap the list goes on and on but one of the big problems is that their viewers/listeners think they are getting the truth. Even if somebody they believe tells them that what they were told is not true they will not believe you. Even if they are shown proof. I’m telling you that the people who are the core audience of these assholes are dense. Blind. Fucked up. They cannot be saved. Fuck em. The BBC’s $1,000,000 is good for the BBC but the there are stupid people who don’s care about the truth. I guess that is why there are Jimmy Swagarts and Hagees and pat Robertsons.
Nobody pays me to tell the truth.
No home training, I suppose.
The truth? How can they make money selling the truth?
enor @ 10:
in small DRMed doses
Oh yeah. That reminds me. Are any Hillary supporters here bothered by the contributions Murdoch makes to her campaign?
That guy ain't right.
Yeah, but the repugs create their own reality. Truth to them is a four-letter word.
- Goat Hussein Sage
goatsage @ 13:
Quiz for today, which Republican stole the fifth letter ? ;)
The bigger problem than making stuff up, bur rather the true stuff that the media just doesn't tell you. No amount of training can help the wanton misleading that is commonplace.
ferrofluid @ 14:
Abramoff?
Old Billy Hussein @ 12:
hes old, his sons and events will destroy his empire.
reality and market forces has a long established history of tearing down empires like houses of cards
goatsage @ 16:
you win, damn ;)
"We Paid $3 Billion For These Stations. We'll Decide What the News Is.
The news is what we tell you it is."
- FOX affiliate station director Tony Boylan -
Reporters Steve Wilson and Jane Akre found out how far Roger Ailes and his FOX cronies would go to support their corporate cronies when they attempted to air a report about the dangers of rBGH, a synthetic growth hormone used to increase milk production.
Despite initial enthusiasm from their bosses at station WTVT, the reporters soon found themselves pressured to include misleading statements and information from Monsanto that they had already determined to be false. They resisted attempts to distort the story and struggled to re-cut an accurate report in a manner that the station would agree to air. Ultimately they were fired and they subsequently attempted to sue the Fox empire.
They proved their allegations in court -- they were hired to report the truth, and were fired for refusing to to lie. But the ruling was overturned when Fox appealed with an astonishing argument: there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
That's right: The courts ruled that the media can legally lie.
Liar, not a liar, the big question.
http://toppun.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1820
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think its a law that any reporter/paper/news show has to tell the truth. Look at all the supermarket papers that claim all kinds of bullshit. News organizations depend on their own ethical standards, and the court of public opinion, for what they report.
Some current news here (20 mins old), Code Pink is occupying the plaza of the Hart Senate Office Building.
cooscoos @ 21:
which pretty much explains 2000 2004 and the last F*&^ed up seven and a bit years.
Time to clean up after the neo-con, hillbilly, hoot-nanny that has brought this nation to the brink of collapse.
Again
Captain Kangaroo @ 8:
a quick copy of a wikipedia list which is prob understated.
Aimee Semple McPherson, 1920s-40s
Lonnie Frisbee, 1970s - 1980s
Oral Roberts, 1977 and 1986
Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, 1986 and 1991
Peter Popoff, 1987
Mike Warnke, 1991
Robert Tilton, 1991
Frank Houston, 2000
John Paulk, 2000
Douglas Goodman, 2004
Kent Hovind, 2006
Ted Haggard, 2006
Paul Barnes, 2006
Richard Roberts, 2007
Bishop Thomas Wesley Weeks and Juanita Bynum, 2007
Bishop Earl Paulk, 2007
and of course this leaves out all the small fry like recent 'tache' boy Flanders clone.
Im very impressed with the BBC actually. Any network that can report the supposed "unexpected" collapse of a building before it actually happens gets an A for informative journalism in my book.
Gary @ 26:
Esp when the anchor in the London studio and the onscreen ticker text pushes the message to the bemused field reporter standing in front of an open window with the 'collapsed' building standing behind her for all the world to see.
a weird mix of X-files, ground hog day, and the twilight zone.
Are you trying to imply that everything the pResident says is a lie?
Truth in broadcasting.....How Un-American err Refreshing.
Acting Patriotic @ 28:
the old cliche 'is his lips moving ?'
L.A. Confidential @ 24:
Connecticut is hill-billy !
ferrofluid @ 31:
I lived in CT now in Floriduh. Lotsa billys in them hills.
the problem with bush and cheney as regards lying and telling the
thuth is they do not understand the difference or are just immoral.
17,000 people... $1,000,000... 2 hours... that's $58.82/hr per person... I wanna be a reporter for the BBC!!!
Well given that ridiculous legal ruling which more or less takes the gloves off the media to lie lie lie legally without repercussions, maybe it's all about buying the 'Few Good Men' Nicholson theory... Ahem, to wit.....
'The truth? The TRUTH! YOU can't handle the truth'!...Besides it's too expensive to learn it ourselves... That's why we make shit up.. It's easier...more profitable too.... Seems pretty simple to me... Reprehensible...yea... but pretty simple to understand..If not agree with.....................(sigh).. Sometimes I wonder why anybody even bothers to try and see thru this smoke and muck... Also lately been wonderin... How did our species ever manage to luck out and last this long.......Oh well, Anyways... Anyone see Britneys' underwear lately... I'm sure there'e an oh so very important story there somewhere we all just NEEEED to know and focus on...Oh, say, for the next week or two.....PFFT! JD
ferrofluid @ 4:
Propaganda machine? Are you on the same planet as everyone else? The BBC is the most reliable and credible news source available in this day and age of corporate owned, pentagon poodle shills, including FOX, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS.
Estella ... correction. The BBC is funded by direct taxation--the TV license.
The BBC reported that WTC7 collapsed 26 minutes before it actually did.
Wow, someone at the Beeb has surely seen 7/7 Ripple Effect by now. What's that old saying about cleaning the log out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in your neighbor's?
The fact that the BBC feels the need to hold this training seminar in the first place is rather disquieting, since it suggests they have reason to believe that their employees have playing fast-and-loose with the truth -- but at least they're making an effort to address the problem, which is more than most American media companies can say for themselves.
McDuff @ 36:
I grew up with the BBC watching and listening to their proaganda daily for over 30 years.
The BBC is a complex beast made up of competing camps or groups each dedicated to a pet project, philosophy or branch of art. Each does its thing or passes the time making programs and avoiding being sacked by being too controversial or stepping on the wrong persons toes.
But at the end of the day there is the board of govenors, managment and the upper echelon and those people are government people through and through. They got their jobs there through patronage and being nice to whichever government was in office at the time.
At the end of the day its a tool (to be used) of whichever government is in power, same as the major stations in the US.
"I am not a
liarcrookliarcrook.... crook"Estella Brandybuck @ 2:
That would be the British government, right? I mean, the British government which has no bill of rights? I mean which has the power (legally) to censor anything they feel like censoring, in any paper, on any television network, on any radio broadcast?
Yeah, being run by the government is certainly the way to insure transparency in broadcasting and publishing.
Oh, and can I have some of what yer smokin'?
As one of the British forum users at Perez Hilton claimed happened during the Prince Harry dog and pony show recently, he/she claimed all the blog sites that day were 404 (MIA).
They learned a big lesson during the Charlie's butler news gossip story, close down the hatches and get the correct story out on the BBC first.
stonicus @ 34:
Are you sure?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/biographies/biogs/news/frank_gardner.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/biographies/biogs/news/johnsimpson.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyV62DRRq6k
It would probably be a good seminar for most journalists. The subject is not covered in most journalism schools.
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