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So much hackery, so little time. Thursday's edition of Bushed! includes a return visit of Timothy Goeglein, the former White House aide who was fired after it was discovered that he had liberally plagiarized from various publications for op-eds of his own. It turns out no one was safe from Goeglein's sticky fingered grab of prose, not even the late Pope John Paul II. Stealing from the Pope? I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore, but I'm pretty sure that would take a whole bunch of Hail Marys and Our Fathers to atone for.

Then there is KBR, subsidiary of Dick Cheney's Halliburton, and the largest contract holder in Iraq. Turns out that KBR is in a little bit of a tax jam. More than 21,000 employees of KBR are listed as employees of two shell companies --neither of which have an office or phone number--based in the Cayman Islands so that KBR can avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars of Medicare and Social Security taxes. Hmmm....wonder if there'll be any repercussions for KBR on this?

And finally, comes news that Canada, in their prosecution of alleged terrorist cells, have refiled paperwork that has omitted information obtained during US enhanced interrogation torture sessions. I'll let Keith Olbermann take this one on:

There it is in its starkest form. You don’t even have to think about the ethics. You don’t even have to think about whether the tortured suspect tells you the truth or makes it all up. Legally, you can’t use it. All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. Idiots.

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fiver's picture

Impeach Bush; arrest Halliburton.

L.A. Confidential's picture

This isn't the 1930's. When the U.S.A. had plenty of mineral resources, lots of trained-and-regimented manpower, millions of productive family farms, factories that were practically new, and more than 90 percent left of the greatest petroleum reserve anywhere in the world.

It's SCAMS AWAY! Get it while you can before the whole god damn thing comes crashing down.

enor's picture

Imprison Bush/Cheney And stop funding Halliburton and Blackwater (that will destroy them).

Ron's picture

So if the terrorist is actually a terrorist we can't prosecute because the tortured terrorist confessed while being tortured for being a terrorist. I recommend that they stop torturing terrorists whether they are terrorists or not terrorists.

myboysherman's picture

KBR is a former subsidiary of Halliburton.

zorro's picture

Who is worst person for keith, or one for the CNN rubber room

Carlyle Capital's lenders are UBS, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, JPMorgan Chase, ING, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, Citigroup, BNP Paribas, Bear Stearns, Banc of America and Calyon, according to its annual report. And linked to the Carlyle Group, likely many, many more based in Washington and one of the world's largest private equity companies.

Bush and Company capital funding group is the curse on America, and Mainstream Media first line Journalist should also ask the question where is the Republicans getting its money from? Just asking Hillary Clinton where her money comes from is not balanced and has not been for decades. This whole Carlyle Group is loaded with a bunch of creeps including the Rockefellers and Arab Bin Laden family with Bush and family have been screwing America for decades.

The abuses and corruption hidden in the IRS and National Security Secrets are likely confounding with incredible illegal proportions that will likely destroy those connected this debacle for generation if not completely from this time forward.

Here is a good story likely much, much worse than reported.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/07/business/07cndcarlyle.php

Its interesting some analyst are not even sure where these guy’s are based out of. Simply incredible, here America has major money managers avoiding FISA and likely financing major wars are shielded with tax haven Channel Islands laws or International treaties for money. That’s cool for money, but when things come to torture and water boarding and International human rights laws screw the individual, its o.k. there too.

Some analysts said that the fund, based in Guernsey, the Channel Islands. Where the hell is this ? Isn’t it something Americans are really stupid.

Just got done watching the Canadian Broadcasting about Obama and saying to the Canadian diplomats NFTA is o.k. don't worry about what Obama says in his speaches about NAFTA to the American electorate. This stuff is exploding and going to trail Obama, does not look good for Obama.

fiver's picture

enor @ 3:

Imprison Bush/Cheney And stop funding Halliburton and Blackwater (that will destroy them).

I wish it were true, but with the billions in contracts they've already received both are powers in their own right which rival the might of some countries

Timmy's picture

When I see things like this,it makes me even more proud of being Canadian

enor's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 2:

This isn't the 1930's. When the U.S.A. had plenty of mineral resources, lots of trained-and-regimented manpower, millions of productive family farms, factories that were practically new, and more than 90 percent left of the greatest petroleum reserve anywhere in the world.

It's SCAMS AWAY! Get it while you can before the whole god damn thing comes crashing down.

That is why the last resource of wealth is to mine is the money in the pockets of the

middle class. All the new laws favor the corporations to achieve that goal.

Bought a gallon of gas lately? A pill? Insurance? Etc.? Food is next.

Brian Rapp's picture

Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery....

ferrofluid's picture

Somebody got into the Pentagon computer network last year, stole data and did who knows what else.
from Arstechnica.com

Pentagon's computer network rootkitted for at least two months last year. WTF

According to a top DoD technology official quoted at GovernmentExecutive.com, the thieves behind that attack seized an "amazing amount" of data.

the intrusion was first detected during an IT restructuring that was underway at the time. By the time it was detected, malicious code had been in the system for at least two months

WTF are they incompetent in DC or what!

what was that? "the intrusion was first detected during an IT restructuring" ahh just like in the mobile phone story recently about how theres a backdoor straight to Quantico in the mobile phone networks with no firewall or safeguards.

Computer security analyst Babak Pasdar says that a major mobile telecommunications carrier has a built-in backdoor that provides an undisclosed third-party with unfettered access to its internal technical infrastructure, including the ability to eavesdrop on all calls through its network.

Pasdar discovered evidence of the backdoor when he was part of a rapid deployment team that was brought in to facilitate a large-scale network security hardware migration for the mobile carrier. During the migration, Pasdar was instructed not to migrate the traffic for one particular DS-3, which was referred to as the "Quantico Circuit" by consultants who worked closely with the carrier (the FBI Academy is based in Quantico, Virginia).

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If Halliburton / KBR and/or its subsidiaries is forced to pay Medicare and Social Security taxes then the terrorists win.

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enor @ 3:

Imprison Bush/Cheney And stop funding Halliburton and Blackwater (that will destroy them).

It is perfectly legal, for anyone and everyone, to ask ones employer to put the federal income tax money in an escrow account until the war ends. Perfectly legal

If Goeglein had had to credit the Pope, the terrorists would've won!

Ron's picture

ferrofluid @ 10:

Somebody got into the Pentagon computer network last year, stole data and did who knows what else.
from Arstechnica.com

Pentagon's computer network rootkitted for at least two months last year. WTF

According to a top DoD technology official quoted at GovernmentExecutive.com, the thieves behind that attack seized an "amazing amount" of data.

the intrusion was first detected during an IT restructuring that was underway at the time. By the time it was detected, malicious code had been in the system for at least two months

WTF are they incompetent in DC or what!

what was that? "the intrusion was first detected during an IT restructuring" ahh just like in the mobile phone story recently about how theres a backdoor straight to Quantico in the mobile phone networks with no firewall or safeguards.

Computer security analyst Babak Pasdar says that a major mobile telecommunications carrier has a built-in backdoor that provides an undisclosed third-party with unfettered access to its internal technical infrastructure, including the ability to eavesdrop on all calls through its network.

Pasdar discovered evidence of the backdoor when he was part of a rapid deployment team that was brought in to facilitate a large-scale network security hardware migration for the mobile carrier. During the migration, Pasdar was instructed not to migrate the traffic for one particular DS-3, which was referred to as the "Quantico Circuit" by consultants who worked closely with the carrier (the FBI Academy is based in Quantico, Virginia).

So the advertisement for the Air Force that shows the sargeant protecting the pentagon against hackers, is false.

Van140's picture

KBR = Keeping Bush Rich

L.A. Confidential's picture

Oh Boy she's turning on Obama now apparently.

AP - 27 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A former adviser to Barack Obama, who resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster," said Obama may not be able to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within a year as he has promised on the campaign trail.

Who's the monster?

ferrofluid's picture

enor @ 8:

That is why the last resource of wealth is to mine is the money in the pockets of the middle class.

Its going to be a tricky meal for the leeches to extract,
middle(class) American is also the bulk of the electorate,
once they realize that they are the main course on the menu they will get mad.

President PNACcio's picture

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. Idiots.

Needs more exasperation. How's this-

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. IDIOTS!

RayC's picture

There are thousands, maybe even millions of people out there that hope McCain becomes president so things get even worse. That somehow if the US is figuratively burned down out of the ashes will come a Socialist Liberal Regulated Capitalist utopia. I think we have gone down plenty far enough, the unwashed masses refuse to pay attention so we must nursemaid them along. I put hopes in the Democrats but with people like Hillary Clinton willing to burn the Democrats down for personal gain its getting harder and harder get up in the morning and fight.

ferrofluid's picture

Ron @ 14:
So the advertisement for the Air Force that shows the sargeant protecting the pentagon against hackers, is false.

Doing the same job as the red coated Guards outside the front of Buckingham Palace,
all an expensive show while the crooks and thieves walk in the backdoor

ferrofluid's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 16:

Oh Boy she's turning on Obama now apparently.

AP - 27 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A former adviser to Barack Obama, who resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster," said Obama may not be able to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within a year as he has promised on the campaign trail.

Who's the monster?

resigned ! he or she should have gotten a promotion.

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But it's not about not being able to use statements made under torture in a court of law. It's about the ticking TIME BOMB!!

We have our heroes, George W. Brush and Jack Bauer racing against the clock to save America from an evil terrorist who has a bomb strapped to his chest. A bomb that would blow up all of Los Angeles! They finally catch him and now they must get the code to stop the clock. Sweat pouring from their furrowed brows, the room contains Brush, Bauer, the evil terrorist, and of course the damn BOMB! You can't have Brush and Bauer sit there having tea with that terrorist in the hopes he'll spill the beans. No sir, no way.

Tick Tick Tick Tick...torture is the only way yells Brush. Bauer just recently reinstated after his 3rd DUI sighs and gives his thumbs up. Our mighty president springs in to action and because of torture our country is saved!! YEA Brush....YEA Jack Bauer.....

And now back to reality....

L.A. Confidential's picture

ferrofluid @ 21:

L.A. Confidential @ 16:

Oh Boy she's turning on Obama now apparently.

AP - 27 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A former adviser to Barack Obama, who resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster," said Obama may not be able to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within a year as he has promised on the campaign trail.

Who's the monster?

resigned ! he or she should have gotten a promotion.

At this rate it shouldn't be long before Obama's supporters are tossing rotten tomatoes at him everywhere he appears.

Ron's picture

Pursang @ 22:

But it's not about not being able to use statements made under torture in a court of law. It's about the ticking TIME BOMB!!

We have our heroes, George W. Brush and Jack Bauer racing against the clock to save America from an evil terrorist who has a bomb strapped to his chest. A bomb that would blow up all of Los Angeles! They finally catch him and now they must get the code to stop the clock. Sweat pouring from their furrowed brows, the room contains Brush, Bauer, the evil terrorist, and of course the damn BOMB! You can't have Brush and Bauer sit there having tea with that terrorist in the hopes he'll spill the beans. No sir, no way.

Tick Tick Tick Tick...torture is the only way yells Brush. Bauer just recently reinstated after his 3rd DUI sighs and gives his thumbs up. Our mighty president springs in to action and because of torture our country is saved!! YEA Brush....YEA Jack Bauer.....

And now back to reality....

Wow, are you a writer for 24?

NoGWBpolicyleftinplace's picture

ferrofluid @ 17:

enor @ 8:

That is why the last resource of wealth is to mine is the money in the pockets of the middle class.

Its going to be a tricky meal for the leeches to extract,
middle(class) American is also the bulk of the electorate,
once they realize that they are the main course on the menu they will get mad.

What the hell is taking them so long? I have been pissed for a while now.

And every poll shows McInsane getting almost the same amount of support as the democrats. How in the hell could anyone with a conscious brain vote for a f-ing repuke after what those assholes did from 2001-present. Apparently, the dumbasses haven't suffered enough yet.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Seriously if Obama's team can't handle the lightweight jabs the Clintons have been debating them with what the hell they going to do when the Right Wing Facists unleash on him?

Get real!

L.A. Confidential's picture

NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 25:

And every poll shows McInsane getting almost the same amount of support as the democrats. How in the hell could anyone with a conscious brain vote for a f-ing repuke after what those assholes did from 2001-present. Apparently, the dumbasses haven't suffered enough yet.

They apparently enjoy pain, hard times, struggle, and getting shafted and screwed and set back ten steps for every one you gain.

Makes a MAN OUT A YA'

ferrofluid's picture

President PNACcio @ 18:

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. Idiots.

Needs more exasperation. How's this-

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. IDIOTS!

You do realize that some of those Guantanamo Bay detainees will most likely end up as American citizens,
if no other country will take them you are left with three choices,
1 execute them; 2 illegally and immorally keep them locked up until they die; 3 free them and give them asylum and eventually US visas.

ysbaddaden's picture

Are Hail Mary's anything like Bloody Mary's?

I always thought Bloody Mary would make a cool name for a rock band

Kinda like these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyGNjf4EUs

Ron's picture

ferrofluid @ 28:

President PNACcio @ 18:

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. Idiots.

Needs more exasperation. How's this-

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. IDIOTS!

You do realize that some of those Guantanamo Bay detainees will most likely end up as American citizens,
if no other country will take them you are left with three choices,
1 execute them; 2 illegally and immorally keep them locked up until they die; 3 free them and give them asylum and eventually US visas.

Even if they weren't terrorist before, they could very well become terrorists now after being tortured.

RayC's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

Seriously if Obama's team can't handle the lightweight jabs the Clintons have been debating them with what the hell they going to do when the Right Wing Fascists unleash on him?

Get real!

Its not Obama I am concerned about, its the Kucinich, Edwards, and Clinton supporters that want to stomp their collective feet and take their votes and go home. Plus Clinton seems to want to promote McCain if she can't get the nomination, hoping for a short 4 year term and run again. This election should be one of the most one sided election in history but everyone has gathered in a big circle to shoot at each other.

ferrofluid's picture

Ron @ 30:

ferrofluid @ 28:

President PNACcio @ 18:

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. Idiots.

Needs more exasperation. How's this-

All that trouble, all that pain, all that spitting on what America stands for and your tough guy crap only winds up freeing the guys you think are terrorists. IDIOTS!

You do realize that some of those Guantanamo Bay detainees will most likely end up as American citizens,
if no other country will take them you are left with three choices,
1 execute them; 2 illegally and immorally keep them locked up until they die; 3 free them and give them asylum and eventually US visas.

Even if they weren't terrorist before, they could very well become terrorists now after being tortured.

after eight years two hundred million plus (non Rethugian) Americans agree with that.

RayC's picture

ysbaddaden @ 29:

Are Hail Mary's anything like Bloody Mary's?

I always thought Bloody Mary would make a cool name for a rock band

Kinda like these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyGNjf4EUs

You do understand the whole Mary, Queen of Scots reference right?

ferrofluid's picture

RayC @ 31:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

Seriously if Obama's team can't handle the lightweight jabs the Clintons have been debating them with what the hell they going to do when the Right Wing Fascists unleash on him?

Get real!

Its not Obama I am concerned about, its the Kucinich, Edwards, and Clinton supporters that want to stomp their collective feet and take their votes and go home. Plus Clinton seems to want to promote McCain if she can't get the nomination, hoping for a short 4 year term and run again. This election should be one of the most one sided election in history but everyone has gathered in a big circle to shoot at each other.

The MSM are using #4 soft focus filters when they video and photograph Hillary at the moment,
they will need #9 or #10 filters in 2012

Amitola's picture

Like I've said before, doesn't really matter who we "elect" - they are all bought and paid for by the Powers that Be. After hearing about the Halliburton/KBR folks skipping out on paying taxes, I'm beginning to think that might be an option. Wasn't there a Tea Party in Boston a while back - I remember hearing something about that??!

Dr. Acula's picture

CRIMINAL idiot, KO. You forgot CRIMINAL!

L.A. Confidential's picture

ferrofluid @ 34:

The MSM are using #4 soft focus filters when they video and photograph Hillary at the moment,
they will need #9 or #10 filters in 2012

Imagine McCain in four years. If he makes it without dropping flat on his face during a press conference.

John W's picture

This kind of thing wouldn't happen if we had a Democratically controlled congress. Oh wait.....

Mark's picture

"Hmmm….wonder if there’ll be any repercussions for KBR on this?"

Naaaah - they'll just backdate an immunity for them, no prob...

jack damage's picture

OK, its friday, I'll take a stab at this...

On Goeglein and plagerism?... Why the hell not, why should anyone be that surprised.. Everything the republicans have been spitting out for the last 30 years from 'morning in America' to 'the turrorists is gonna gitcha' has pretty much been fiction of one kind or another anyway... Plagarism per se? Just part and parcel of their gameplan...or crap if you prefer...

On KBR and tax liabilities?... No biggie really, what with this whole retroactive immunity fad the repukes have pioneered, I'm sure some suit upstairs with a law degree will draw up some Cayman Island incorporation docs, backdate those puppies to whenever it serves the purpose of tax avoidance and viola! Problem solved.. Hell, what's reality got to do with it... What's reality ever had to do with any of it....

On Canada pretty much refuting our ah, 'enhanced interrogation techniques' and the results as anything approaching usable evidence in terrorist cases?...... Bravo, cudos galour to our intelligent neighbors to the north... Dang, more and more I wish I had been born Canadian these days... And not just because I like Rush and their music... Ohh that this kind of sanity and common fucking sense should ever return to this nations leadership... I'll be one surprised son of a bitch..... JD

chris's picture

Maybe if we did not have the wel-fare state that we have the corporations would not have to go offshore. ofcourse we also have the 2nd high corporate tax rate, we need some reform....

Pawn's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 23:

ferrofluid @ 21:

L.A. Confidential @ 16:

Oh Boy she's turning on Obama now apparently.

AP - 27 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A former adviser to Barack Obama, who resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster," said Obama may not be able to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within a year as he has promised on the campaign trail.

Seperately, a statement about taxes. The US Government and all of it's agencies (including the military and intelligence agencies) should not be able to any company that does not pay US Taxes. This money is leaving the country and will never return. Hello Dubai. I also believe that if there is any question of human rights and consumer safety, we should cut an entire country off. China may hold a great deal of debt, but this is no excuse to allow their tainted products in our country. Oh, and the girls may get upset because there would be no diamonds in America.
Who's the monster?

resigned ! he or she should have gotten a promotion.

At this rate it shouldn't be long before Obama's supporters are tossing rotten tomatoes at him everywhere he appears.

Tell me what Hillary supporters are going to do when she gets into office and tries changing the rules. She's trying to change the rules in primaries, I think it's clear she will not follow the rules once in office.

Timmy's picture

jack damage @ 40:

OK, its friday, I'll take a stab at this...

On Goeglein and plagerism?... Why the hell not, why should anyone be that surprised.. Everything the republicans have been spitting out for the last 30 years from 'morning in America' to 'the turrorists is gonna gitcha' has pretty much been fiction of one kind or another anyway... Plagarism per se? Just part and parcel of their gameplan...or crap if you prefer...

On KBR and tax liabilities?... No biggie really, what with this whole retroactive immunity fad the repukes have pioneered, I'm sure some suit upstairs with a law degree will draw up some Cayman Island incorporation docs, backdate those puppies to whenever it serves the purpose of tax avoidance and viola! Problem solved.. Hell, what's reality got to do with it... What's reality ever had to do with any of it....

On Canada pretty much refuting our ah, 'enhanced interrogation techniques' and the results as anything approaching usable evidence in terrorist cases?...... Bravo, cudos galour to our intelligent neighbors to the north... Dang, more and more I wish I had been born Canadian these days... And not just because I like Rush and their music... Ohh that this kind of sanity and common fucking sense should ever return to this nations leadership... I'll be one surprised son of a bitch..... JD

I was pleasantly surprised the Canadian judicial system did the right thing.In regards to RUSH,they're presently touring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7yxA9vt2-c

ferrofluid's picture

John W @ 38:

This kind of thing wouldn't happen if we had a Democratically controlled congress. Oh wait.....

Is that twilight zone music playing in the background !

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chris @ 41:

Maybe if we did not have the wel-fare state that we have the corporations would not have to go offshore. ofcourse we also have the 2nd high corporate tax rate, we need some reform....

The only welfare is corporate welfare. We have plenty of that thanks to the repugs.

jack damage's picture

Timmy@43;

Off Topic but thanks for the Rush vids dude... Man that shit is still good! I'm dating myself but I saw that tour in 76 at the Vet in Columbus Oh...I was all of 19 or 20... I think that Bastille day was the show opener for the show I saw... I can remember those times like it was yesterday Timmy. Me and my buds always saw Rush when they came thru Ohio back then...It was must see music for rockers like us. The unisex clothes, the rock music of that day, the hair, the chics... Man I miss the 70s... A decade that seems to get a bad rap overall for the transgressions of a few assholes in politics and other slices of life...... JD

Canuknotusa's picture

Why does Olbermann think we should have to filter out a really awful drum solo just to hear his comments?
PLEASE - just the facts, ma'me.

ferrofluid's picture

chris @ 41:

Maybe if we did not have the wel-fare state that we have the corporations would not have to go offshore. ofcourse we also have the 2nd high corporate tax rate, we need some reform....

how to avoid paying US corporate tax (circa 2002)

There was a top 50 or top 100 list on MSN.com (or a link to) of how little the biggest corporations paid in '06 '07 etc, quite an interesting read.
Most of the top 100s paid less than 10% some as little as 5%, Ford who are in financial troubles were one of the biggest tax payers to the US treasury at 15% or something like that, so the moral of the story seems to be pay tax and suffer.

Google seems to have Alzheimers when doing searches for info on corporate taxes paid by big business, friends of friends etc.

Ben's picture

Some of you people are as crazy,pathetic and silly as the ron paul"s followers. It's getting ridiculous. Everywhere you turn now there's a big fight going on between Obama and Hillary supporters. Why is that? Are you people scared of having a democrat in the White House? It seems to me you people are doing all you can to keep a republican in power. You cannot fathom your lives without having someone like junior bush to make fun of. Ido understand that it's the primary,but don't you people think you are taking it too far.Either Obama or Hillary will be a great choice.I guess without a republican in the W.H your existence will be meaningless. I pity you people.

unsurebtwilling's picture

if you do not have an american address you shouldn't have any governmnet contracts They want the privileges of being an american company but not the responsiblities that go along with it that is sooo unamerican and not at all patriotic BTW got a lapel pin in the mail made in china
When I think of the stink over lapel pin not lapel pin I think of animal house and the gung ho rotc guy

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RayC @ 33:

ysbaddaden @ 29:

Are Hail Mary's anything like Bloody Mary's?

I always thought Bloody Mary would make a cool name for a rock band

Kinda like these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyGNjf4EUs

You do understand the whole Mary, Queen of Scots reference right?

Wrong Mary. The reference is to Mary Tudor, Elizabeth I's older sister, who was a fanatical Catholic and persecutor of Protestants - not to the feckless and frivolous Mary Stewart, who was considerably more of a persecutEE.

oakling's picture

Seriously. If they would just put principles before personalities in the first place, instead of doing whatever they wanted and waiting to see if they get smacked down, none of this would ever happen....

"so that KBR can avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars of Medicare and Social Security taxes"

I'm sure they're argument is that Social Security is so strong that their share isn't needed....why else do the Dems think it needs no help.

Kate Drazner's picture

KBR wants you to pay for their war, but don't ask them to pitch in for social security. While average citizens like you and I have our tax money funneled to support this unjust war, the companies reaping the benefits are cheating us to avoid their profits benefiting anyone but themselves, and Bush and his cronies are letting them get away with it. The Pentagon has known about KBR's corrosive practices since 2004, and has turned a blind eye. Progressive Future is working to make sure the Bush administration cannot ignore the public outcry against its consistence practices of favoritism and deceit.
It's time to hold those contractors accountable to the community that they claim to be defending: the American public. It's time to end the era of having policies formed out of greed and corruption dirty our international reputation. It time to take this country in a new direction.
Go to www.progressivefuture.org/join?id4=BL to sign their Priorities for a Progressive Future.

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fiver @ 1:

Impeach Bush; arrest Halliburton.

Hell yeah. And don't forget Dick, aka Quick Draw.

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ferrofluid @ 45:

John W @ 38:

This kind of thing wouldn't happen if we had a Democratically controlled congress. Oh wait.....

Is that twilight zone music playing in the background !

LOL! Indeed

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Ben @ 50:

Some of you people are as crazy,pathetic and silly as the ron paul"s followers. It's getting ridiculous. Everywhere you turn now there's a big fight going on between Obama and Hillary supporters. Why is that? Are you people scared of having a democrat in the White House? It seems to me you people are doing all you can to keep a republican in power. You cannot fathom your lives without having someone like junior bush to make fun of. Ido understand that it's the primary,but don't you people think you are taking it too far.Either Obama or Hillary will be a great choice.I guess without a republican in the W.H your existence will be meaningless. I pity you people.

1. The only thing meaningless is catch-all generalizations and shallow pop psychology. People make fun of Bush because of Bush's deeds and words.

2. Primaries are an adversarial process, appealing to those with strong political opinions. Brawling and cursing are bound to happen, no matter the current occupant of the White House.

3. The Democratic race is downright civil compared to the Republican race. Does that mean Republicans don't want a Republican in the White House? Given the last eight years, perhaps they don't.

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NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 26:

ferrofluid @ 17:

enor @ 8:

That is why the last resource of wealth is to mine is the money in the pockets of the middle class.

Its going to be a tricky meal for the leeches to extract,
middle(class) American is also the bulk of the electorate,
once they realize that they are the main course on the menu they will get mad.

What the hell is taking them so long? I have been pissed for a while now.

And every poll shows McInsane getting almost the same amount of support as the democrats. How in the hell could anyone with a conscious brain vote for a f-ing repuke after what those assholes did from 2001-present. Apparently, the dumbasses haven't suffered enough yet.

the problem is the majority of the voters do not enough the depth of understanding to see beyond the superficial issues. The corporations, wealthy, elites, and "connected" have, in essence, "screwed" the middle and lower classes. I am just disgusted to read KBR, which makes billions in no-bid contracts under Cheney's protection, over-charges the taxpayers for commodity supplies and services, and I now I read they avoid paying social security & medicare taxes with this off-shore phoney shell corp. I am sure their corporate leaders are the first to scream how patriotic they are, while they screw the middle class.

Pawn's picture

Now here is the proof that Bush is willing to confess that he is willing to support waterboarding without the support from the people.

Pursang's picture

Ron @ 25:

Pursang @ 22:

But it's not about not being able to use statements made under torture in a court of law. It's about the ticking TIME BOMB!!

We have our heroes, George W. Brush and Jack Bauer racing against the clock to save America from an evil terrorist who has a bomb strapped to his chest. A bomb that would blow up all of Los Angeles! They finally catch him and now they must get the code to stop the clock. Sweat pouring from their furrowed brows, the room contains Brush, Bauer, the evil terrorist, and of course the damn BOMB! You can't have Brush and Bauer sit there having tea with that terrorist in the hopes he'll spill the beans. No sir, no way.

Tick Tick Tick Tick...torture is the only way yells Brush. Bauer just recently reinstated after his 3rd DUI sighs and gives his thumbs up. Our mighty president springs in to action and because of torture our country is saved!! YEA Brush....YEA Jack Bauer.....

And now back to reality....

Wow, are you a writer for 24?

I wouldn't mind being a writer but not for that show, perhaps something a little more fact based like "My Favorite Martian". But I'm sure that Scalia who has a mancrush on super-patriot Jack Bauer would love to do it.

Jeff's picture

"Idiots."

Indeed.

Jack Springer's picture

I love coming on these delusional socialist web sites. Resign yourselves to the fact that a Republican will remain in the White House for the foreseeable future. The House and Senate will also return to Republican control.(Take a look at their approval ratings) The majority still rules in this country. your socialist views are not welcome by the majority of American Citizens, you can rant about the stupidity of the masses but hey France is open, if you are so unhappy here go and get your universal health care and leave us alone once and for all.

Pawn's picture

Ben @ 50:

Some of you people are as crazy,pathetic and silly as the ron paul"s followers. It's getting ridiculous. Everywhere you turn now there's a big fight going on between Obama and Hillary supporters. Why is that? Are you people scared of having a democrat in the White House? It seems to me you people are doing all you can to keep a republican in power. You cannot fathom your lives without having someone like junior bush to make fun of. Ido understand that it's the primary,but don't you people think you are taking it too far.Either Obama or Hillary will be a great choice.I guess without a republican in the W.H your existence will be meaningless. I pity you people.

A reality check, thank you. Besides the pity part, I agree. This isn't a war, it's a primary, and why democrats are so polarized among each other is not clear. It benefits nobody except those that want the dems to lose.

kilroy2's picture

I have to admire the terrorists giving up everything to fight the United States while we blog each other into numbness.

Ben's picture

Jack Springer @ 63:

I love coming on these delusional socialist web sites. Resign yourselves to the fact that a Republican will remain in the White House for the foreseeable future. The House and Senate will also return to Republican control.(Take a look at their approval ratings) The majority still rules in this country. your socialist views are not welcome by the majority of American Citizens, you can rant about the stupidity of the masses but hey France is open, if you are so unhappy here go and get your universal health care and leave us alone once and for all.

Hey jackie,keep on movin, keep on,closer,closer closer,keepp on moving towards the repug cliff. What kind of world are you living in? It gotta be fun being you,because you don't let useless things like facts get in your way,you are allowed to twist ,bend, break or bypass them .

Fil's picture

evidence acquired by illegal means are inadmissible. Canada obeys the law, the US broke it and Canada cannot use the "waterboarded" evidence because of the law.

Bush has set terrorists free due to his lack of brain cells.

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