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Barack Obama Projected Winner Of Wyoming Caucus

MSNBC:

Democrats | Polls | County Results
Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner
Barack Obama 4,459 59% 0
Hillary Clinton 3,081 40% 0
Uncommitted 65 1%
96% of precincts reporting

UPDATE: According to CNN, with 100% of precincts reporting, Senator Obama won today's caucus, 61% to Senator Clinton's 38%. Next stop, Mississippi...

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Mark's picture

Viva La Change!

Gene Hussein's picture

The top of the "dream ticket". Gobama!

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

Mark's picture

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

Orangutan.  Hussein.'s picture

Thank YOU.

Filthy Harry's picture

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

Considering the approximate 100 delegates separating the two, 12 delegates is a lot.

kep306's picture

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

At this point, every delegate counts - Will obama or hillary go to samoa?

Chuck's picture

I saw someone wearing a t shirt that said

Bush
Clinton
Bush
Clinton

Hell No!

I think that about sums it up.

Shii's picture

18 delegates is more than Hillary won last Tuesday. Of course we don't know how many he'll get exactly.

Mark's picture

kep306 @ 7:

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

At this point, every delegate counts - Will obama or hillary go to samoa?

Don't know about Samoa but if I was Obama I would go to Puerto Rico with it's 55 delegates.

Filthy Harry's picture

Chuck @ 8:

I saw someone wearing a t shirt that said

Bush
Clinton
Bush
Clinton

Hell No!

I think that about sums it up.

I hope someday history vilifies the republicans for the damage they did to one of the country's greatest presidents. (Amongst the MANY other things they damaged).

joe cantwell's picture

my vote. wyoming's vote.

he's in!

Truth B Told's picture

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Ed-hussein-win's picture

[4 Mark Says]: Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

----->>Presidencies have been stolen on margins this close.

Andy K Jong Il's picture

Well, if I'm reading the chart above correctly, that's 7705 voters(w/96% in).

18 delegates? for under 8000 voters? Man...

L.A. Confidential's picture

We don't take money from individual lobbyists either only firms registered as federal lobbyists.

Yes We Can

unfrozencaveman's picture

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

Barrett D's picture

woot. black guy FTW!

Filthy Harry's picture

FYI: As per CNN, based on current results its 7 dels for Obama, 4 for HRC.

Kbob's picture

The Clintons can't argue that Wyoming didn't matter to them. Even with Hillary campaigning in Cheyenne and Casper, even with Bill and Chelsea campaigning all day on Friday, even with their so-called momentum, and their "'monster' scandal" behind them, they still lost by nearly 20%.

Wyoming mattered. And the Clintons knew it.

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unfrozencaveman @ 17:

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

That's from MSNBC. Take it up with their art department. Although you might want to take it up with your computer retail store, because the picture looks fine on my monitor.

Barrett D's picture

Wyoming doesn't matter

L.A. Confidential's picture

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Many of Obamas senior advisers include heavy hitters from the Clinton administration.

Kbob's picture

Barrett D @ 22:

Wyoming doesn't matter

Tell that to the Clintons. See Comment #20.

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Nicole Belle @ 21:

unfrozencaveman @ 17:

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

That's from MSNBC. Take it up with their art department. Although you might want to take it up with your computer retail store, because the picture looks fine on my monitor.

Concur. He may yet have the best dentition of any President ever.

Andy K Jong Il's picture

Sorry, just realized that my sense of proportion is way off. I was mistaking the Electoral College numbers with those of the Dem. delegates needed.

cay enns's picture

McCain/Clinton '08
Over 132 Years of Experience

McCain/Clinton '08
Win At All Costs

McCain/Clinton '08
He's On Top, And She Agrees

Rico's picture

Granted it was a caucus, but when you compare the margins of victory in the states that Obama wins, with the margins of victory in states that Clinton wins, there's no comparison.

But as is usual, the Clintons have a way of defining reality. This is all an illusion, don't you know?

L.A. Confidential's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 23:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Many of Obamas senior advisers include heavy hitters from the Clinton administration.

"Listen to the Silence"

Sharktattoo's picture

Excuse me! I live in Laramie, Wyoming, and, no matter how small our population, we damn well count! It was so heartening this morning to see how many Democrats showed up to cast their ballots. Our poor old civic center was overwhelmed-they had to split the voters up into two rooms!

Last night I stood in line for over an hour to see Sen. Obama speak at UW. 8500 people showed up for his rally, and quite a few showed up for Pres. Bill Clinton. Yes, I know neither candidate would have shown up if the race weren't so close, but I don't care. It was democracy in action, and our delegate count is just as freakin' important as any other state. So please, all of you on here who like to make cracks about our state, shut up. Celebrate instead the incredible force of change that is moving through this country, and the people who are, finally, making sure their voice will be heard.

Saturn Hussein 5's picture

Go Obama! This win will hopefully set the stage for winning the next contests.

Filthy Harry's picture

Barrett D @ 22:

Wyoming doesn't matter

Until the race is over every state matters. Unless you mean that now that HRC has lost the state, even though she wants to be president of the people who live there, it doesn't count?

Barrett D's picture

Wyoming doesn't count

Peter G's picture

Props to Sharktatoo@30. Well said.

Marco's picture

Congrats to Obama on another stunning caucus win, but go Hillary.

GoodGod's picture

Overblowing the Wyoming results is like hyping the Sullivan county NY results (do you even know where Sullivan county is?). Only political junkies who are bad at math give a flip about this Wyoming caucus.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Whens the Media going to pile on McCain? Or has McCain, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice and Richard Perle told the Media to STFU or else?

Barrett D's picture

wyoming only matters if the winner would not have won if they did not have the wyoming delegates

Joel's picture

Well, at least we know where Obama's been. It's our (Mississippi) turn next, and Clinton's already made an appearance yesterday in Hattiesberg (where, incidentally, I saw a movie).

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Mark @ 1:

Viva La Change!

Obama is CFR connected, so how do you figure a change is going to happen?

Filthy Harry's picture

Funny thing was, on Mar 4th after it looked like HRC had done well, she said that she was now looking forward to PA. I wasn't sure at the time, but I was thinking "Aren't there contests between now and PA? What about those states?"

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cay enns @ 27:

McCain/Clinton '08
Over 132 Years of Experience

McCain/Clinton '08
Win At All Costs

McCain/Clinton '08
He's On Top, And She Agrees

Pathetic and disgusting comment, Cay. Apparently you take your cue from Rush Limbaugh. Don't some of you Obama fanatics realize how low you are going?

Kbob's picture

Barrett D @ 33:

Wyoming doesn't count

Hmmm... care for some fries with your sour grapes.

"Wyoming doesn't count?" Care to elaborate?

Deng's picture

In Americans politics, it's my first time to understand that such people like Obama are for change and care about the whole nation. No fear at all if Americans need thing moving forward then Obama is the right person to keep the country in better pathway.

Deng

Joe O.'s picture

Kbob @ 43:

Barrett D @ 33:

Wyoming doesn't count

Hmmm... care for some fries with your sour grapes.

"Wyoming doesn't count?" Care to elaborate?

With a nomination just around the corner and these two candidates running neck and neck, all states count and I'm sure that both candidates would agree with that.

ohio progressive's picture

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Excellent questions...but don't forget...

Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip

Ed-hussein-win's picture

[13 Truth B Told Says]: PNAC wins again. --->>[????]

---->>Project for a New American Century sounds so hopeful, does it not? So, let's sum up. USA mired in never-ending oil war in the Middle East, record debt @ $9 trillion, the nation is (pretty much) universally depsised, the US economy has tanked, the dollar is almost worthless, gas nearing $4 a gallon, and millions losing their homes and jobs (soon to come) because of sub-prime mortgage fiasco. Shall I continue?

Ed-hussein-win's picture

[46 ohio progressive Says]:

All excellent questions ohio progressive.

Rico's picture

When it comes to talk about overblowing results, let's not forget last Tuesday. After all was said and done in Ohio, Texas and the rest, Clinton had a net gain of maybe 9 or so delegates, give or take a few yet to be tallied. Yet to listen to Hillary, her media lackeys, and her newly found Republican friends, it was the Second Coming of Christ. So in the context of the primary in which we find ourselves, Wyoming certainly matters today.

Sharktattoo's picture

Look, I'm an Obama supporter, but the most important thing in the upcoming election is that a Democrat wins. That should be our motto-"Not Another Goddamn Republican". If Clinton wins the nomination, I will wholeheartedly throw my support behind her. My enemy is not Hillary-my enemy is McCain.

what now toons's picture

I'm thrilled to see Obama won today's primary. This, in the face of Hillary's dirty tactics against a fellow Democrat, going as low as saying McCain would be a better choice than Obama. That and her touting her years as first lady as part of her experience in government, but I'm sure any call that she answered at three AM would ask to speak to Bill.
And what about those supposed wonderful Bill Clinton years? All through the Clinton years I for one was crying out why are the democrats doing this stuff,not acting like the Democratic party I know and love. A brief sampling of a few things that happened on Bills watch. Rowanda genocide,NAFTA,
WTO,Telecommunication's act of 96, not pursuing the Iran/contra crimes, and more.
I thought we had a democrat in the white house, what is this shit. Times were better, but I think a lot of that was that the corporations still needed the American worker while they set their plans against the middle class, in their insatiable quest for greater profits. The middle class would soon have to deal with outsourcing, witch was in it's infancy during the Clinton presidency, Bush allowed the corporations to kick it into full gear with all his deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthiest one tenth of one percent among us. They pay less dollar for dollar than the rest of us do, and I sure don't see any trickling down our way.
The time to curb all this in equality was during the Clinton presidency, Bill failed us by being nice with the Republicans. Obviously Bill could not see very far ahead, and the same goes with Hillary, she thought she had the nomination in the bag, and ran out of money come Super Tuesday. As a result she has gone to the dark side, using Karl Rove's playbook with fear tactics, innuendo, and outright lies.
Vision for the future is something that escapes these two, and I think that is something we should consider before casting our votes.
I honestly believe Obama has a vision a future that includes the middle class, and the ability to take us there. Another thing that impresses me about him as opposed to Hillary, is that his money is from we the people, and Hillary's is from Saudi Arabia, united Arab emirates, Murdock and many other multi national corporations.
The one tenth of one percent of America has had it their way for far too long, it's time for we the people for a change.
www.whatnowtoons
cartoons for the coming progressive age.

L.A. Confidential's picture

I can just see it.

Jan 2010

The Honorable Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iran is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Mahmoud Ahmadinejad when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Irans Nuclear weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iran's facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iran does or does not possess such weapons.

Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iran will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

Filthy Harry's picture

CheneyIsADick @ 40:

Mark @ 1:

Viva La Change!

Obama is CFR connected, so how do you figure a change is going to happen?

For Obama 'change' is a campaign slogan that is code for 'No more Clinton's or Bush's in the news'. Which for a lot of people is a good enough reason to elect him. To America, being the way it is, 'change' means 'change the channel.' and do Americans like that? Oh yeah!

I think any realistic observer knows that one person can't change washington. The system is set up to prevent just that.

ohio progressive's picture

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Why are Obama's ears so big?

Why did Obama quit smoking just before he decided to run for president?

Why does Obama play basketball every morning on election day?

I'd like some answers....

CheneyIsADick's picture

ohio progressive @ 46:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Excellent questions...but don't forget...

Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip

Like I said @ 40: Obama is CFR connected. That's why the author of "The Grand Chessboard" is on his team. No matter who winns the election; YOU LOOSE!

Mister Anderson's picture

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

Enough to wipe out all of Clinton's gains from Ohio on Tuesday since she lost Texas.

Nicole Belle @ 21:

unfrozencaveman @ 17:

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

That's from MSNBC. Take it up with their art department. Although you might want to take it up with your computer retail store, because the picture looks fine on my monitor.

I agree. It looks fine to me.

Gene Hussein's picture

Mister Anderson @ 56:

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

How many delegates are we talking about here? .75, total?

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

Enough to wipe out all of Clinton's gains from Ohio on Tuesday since she lost Texas.

And with some more California delegates given to Obama the other day, we can safely say the momentum has shifted back to Barack Obama.

Mister Anderson's picture

Sharktattoo @ 50:

Look, I'm an Obama supporter, but the most important thing in the upcoming election is that a Democrat wins. That should be our motto-"Not Another Goddamn Republican". If Clinton wins the nomination, I will wholeheartedly throw my support behind her. My enemy is not Hillary-my enemy is McCain.

Why doesn't the Democratic Party understand that the bulk of Obama's supporters are not Democrats? Therefore, since Bush/Cheney isn't on the ballot, that means that they will not automatically endorse Hillary?

Then you throw in the fact that Blacks will abandon any ticket with Hillary on top since the perception has been made that Hillary can only win the nomination through crooked means, I don't see any way for Hillary to win the nomination and unify the part at the same time with her scorched earth campaign.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Orangutan. Hussein. @ 57:

Nicole Belle @ 21:

unfrozencaveman @ 17:

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

That's from MSNBC. Take it up with their art department. Although you might want to take it up with your computer retail store, because the picture looks fine on my monitor.

I agree. It looks fine to me.

He needs shades and a trumpet. The Miles Davis Look. Do Leno and sit in with Kevin.

LOL that should wrap it up.

Mister Anderson's picture

Gene Hussein @ 58:

Mister Anderson @ 56:

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

This is a exercise in futility since the Democratic Party has NOTHING to gain but everything to lose by allowing this contest go another day. It doesn't matter what happens in Pennsylvania because even if Hillary was to win by 20 points, Obama would wipe out any delegates she won by winning by 20 or 30 in North Carolina the next week.

It would be different if one candidate wasn't running a scorched earth campaign that was creating bad blood throughout the electorate. Except she is running one and the party is suffering because of it. The Super delegates need to step in now and end the race.
Enough to wipe out all of Clinton's gains from Ohio on Tuesday since she lost Texas.

And with some more California delegates given to Obama the other day, we can safely say the momentum has shifted back to Barack Obama.

Filthy Harry's picture

Gene Hussein @ 58:

Mister Anderson @ 56:

Mark @ 4:

Andy K Jong Il @ 3:

12 general, 6 super delegates.
Nothing to call home about but everything helps.

Enough to wipe out all of Clinton's gains from Ohio on Tuesday since she lost Texas.

And with some more California delegates given to Obama the other day, we can safely say the momentum has shifted back to Barack Obama.

Ouch! Da'ts gotta hoit!

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Well, this wipes out the Clinton gain from semi-super Tuesday.

While she is pissing me off more and more with her Lieberman-like boosting of McCain, I could still vote for either although for her with a large spoonful of salt.

I only wish that she could show that she could overcome her negatives and figure out how to win those who are so strongly against her. If she could show that, I could believe more in her. Obama is bringing more people out as Democrats while she is playing Lieberman, the anti-Democrat. She is like a drowning person will hold another person under water in the belief that it will raise her up.

Her negatives are so automatic with so many people. I stood next to a Democratic Party voter registration booth yesterday while a 20-year-old said that he would "vote for Obama or McCain in that order".

I remember listening to a hack-comedian/radio personality, Tim Conway, Jr, on the air in LA when the Patriot Act was passed. His comment was "At least Hillary isn't President". I sat there in the car waiting for his reasoning and there was none, just an expectation that there was one and it was accepted by his leader. I can only guess that it was something about "filegate", even though Starr couldn't find any fault through his investigation. I agree that such comments reflect more on the speaker than upon Hillary. As far as I've heard him say, he went through a lot of problems with the IRS and compulsive gambling and losing and possibly other addictive problems.

I also heard Jeff Foxworthy at a "blue collar comedy special" say "I was always told that if you can't say something nice about someone, you must be talking about Hillary." This was to the great applause to a Southern audience. Again, the basis of the humor was taken as an accepted truth.

If she were a good politician she would work to overcome this idiocy and bring as many people out of the dark. But she can't and obviously feels that the Presidency is owed to her if there is a Democratic win in the offing.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Mister Anderson @ 59:

Then you throw in the fact that Blacks will abandon any ticket with Hillary on top since the perception has been made that Hillary can only win the nomination through crooked means, I don't see any way for Hillary to win the nomination and unify the part at the same time with her scorched earth campaign.

Well if Hillary manages an upset and Obama agrees to be her VP were going to find out just how much change his supporters can really stand.

If Obama says "Come on people rally behind Hillary and I" it should be interesting to see what happens at minimum.

I's picture

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Why don't you have anything better to do than throw around innuendos? All you can do is try to make Obama look as bad as your own candidate.

Why don't you say something positive about Hillary instead? If you're a democrat, of course.

ohio progressive's picture

CheneyIsADick @ 55:

ohio progressive @ 46:
Truth B Told @ 13:
Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip

Like I said @ 40: Obama is CFR connected. That's why the author of "The Grand Chessboard" is on his team. No matter who winns the election; YOU LOOSE!

dig your bunkers now....rev hagee is right....

ohio progressive's picture

I @ 65:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Why don't you have anything better to do than throw around innuendos? All you can do is try to make Obama look as bad as your own candidate.

Why don't you say something positive about Hillary instead? If you're a democrat, of course.

In light of all the underhanded and dishonest campaigning Clinton has been doing lately, there is little good that can be said of her, at the moment....

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X's picture

This is what happens when the state of Ohio isn't around to screw things up...

ohio progressive's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Mister Anderson @ 59:

Then you throw in the fact that Blacks will abandon any ticket with Hillary on top since the perception has been made that Hillary can only win the nomination through crooked means, I don't see any way for Hillary to win the nomination and unify the part at the same time with her scorched earth campaign.

Well if Hillary manages an upset and Obama agrees to be her VP were going to find out just how much change his supporters can really stand.

If Obama says "Come on people rally behind Hillary and I" it should be interesting to see what happens at minimum.

LA, if that happens, I'd vote the team...I doubt it will....I hope it won't

But if it did, I'd vote democrat.....and if it's Clinton alone, I'll vote McCain.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Hillary_is_Scum, But I'm a Naughty Troll @ 68:

Go Obama another win… momentum… momentum… [Deleted. Freeper thoughts and lingo-Sitemonitor]

Hey it's a Freeper.

L.A. Confidential's picture

ohio progressive @ 70:

LA, if that happens, I'd vote the team...I doubt it will....I hope it won't

But if it did, I'd vote democrat.....and if it's Clinton alone, I'll vote McCain.

Why do you fear Hillary?

I don't get it.

Mister Anderson's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 64:

Mister Anderson @ 59:

Then you throw in the fact that Blacks will abandon any ticket with Hillary on top since the perception has been made that Hillary can only win the nomination through crooked means, I don't see any way for Hillary to win the nomination and unify the part at the same time with her scorched earth campaign.

Well if Hillary manages an upset and Obama agrees to be her VP were going to find out just how much change his supporters can really stand.

If Obama says "Come on people rally behind Hillary and I" it should be interesting to see what happens at minimum.

His supporters will turn on him if he runs on Hillary's ticket the same way his supporters will turn on him if he counters Hillary's scorched earth campaign by running one of his own. I'd rather he lose with his dignity than win in disgrace.

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because she is owned by Wal-mart

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I @ 65:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Why don't you have anything better to do than throw around innuendos? All you can do is try to make Obama look as bad as your own candidate.

Why don't you say something positive about Hillary instead? If you're a democrat, of course.

those aren't innuendos. those are known facts.

Ghoulsbie is Yale grad and Skull and Bones member, same as Bush's and Kerry.
Zbigniew Brzezinski is a CFR and Trilateralist (founder) and wrote the Grand Chessboard. If you have ever read that book, or its excerpts which are available on the internet, then you might consider that Obama is shill for the powers that be.

Obama wouldn't be the first black man to sell out his people, or his race. Remember, some of those Cointelpro agents the FBI threw into the mix to infiltrate the Black Panthers and other radical groups were black men.

ohio progressive's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 72:

ohio progressive @ 70:

LA, if that happens, I'd vote the team...I doubt it will....I hope it won't

But if it did, I'd vote democrat.....and if it's Clinton alone, I'll vote McCain.

Why do you fear Hillary?

I don't get it.

I don't fear her....I feel she's been dishonest, intentionally misleading, trying to confuse voters about Obama's position, she lost me at plagiarism....and to support her, if she wins that way (by cheating, for lack of a better word), I'd have no interest....but if Obama said hey, its all good, let's do this I'm Veep....I'd be on board....

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L.A. Confidential @ 72:

ohio progressive @ 70:

LA, if that happens, I'd vote the team...I doubt it will....I hope it won't

But if it did, I'd vote democrat.....and if it's Clinton alone, I'll vote McCain.

Why do you fear Hillary?

I don't get it.

I fear her because if she was elected President of the United States, she won't get nothing done without fillibuster-proof majorities in both Houses of Congress. If the Dems use the nuclear option, then the Republicans will be able to use it in the future. The Dems will lose at least one house in Congress in 2010, and she won't be able to get ANYTHING on her agenda through because the Republicans would rather cripple this country than let Hillary accomplish anything that would make her look good.

Sorry, but it's the truth. People hate her. And now many Democrats and Republicans are starting to learn what the Republicans party has already known based on her scorched earth campaign.

That's why I fear Hillary....because she will further cripple this country and not heal it.

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BoilThemInTheirOil @ 42:

cay enns @ 27:

McCain/Clinton '08
Over 132 Years of Experience

McCain/Clinton '08
Win At All Costs

McCain/Clinton '08
He's On Top, And She Agrees

Pathetic and disgusting comment, Cay. Apparently you take your cue from Rush Limbaugh. Don't some of you Obama fanatics realize how low you are going?

Ironic that you would say something like that. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she said, "No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.." when replying to a question about Obama being a Muslim. I thought Hillary and company went pretty low when her campaign accused Obama of Ken Starr tactics. I thought Hillary went pretty low when it was clear that it was her campaign that talked with the Canadians about NAFTA. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she suggested that McCain is more qualified to be President. At that point, I thought she went so low, I decided to contribute to Obama's campaign.

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Nice to see an election result post again. I don't remember seeing any on Wednesday that said, "Clinton Wins RI, Ohio, and Texas; Obama Wins VT"

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Let's see, Obama 7 delegates Clinton 5. Hmmm...I would be willing to bet that a week ago the Obamans were looking at something like a 10 - 2 result. Pretty much a wash now.

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liberalista @ 81:

Nice to see an election result post again. I don't remember seeing any on Wednesday that said, "Clinton Wins RI, Ohio, and Texas; Obama Wins VT"

Actually, Obama won Texas fair and square.

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Hillary_is_Scum @ 80:

Hillary_is_Scum @ 75:

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!*!K You

Is that you Melanie? Had a few to many adult beverages tonight?

LOL

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liberalista @ 81:

Nice to see an election result post again. I don't remember seeing any on Wednesday that said, "Clinton Wins RI, Ohio, and Texas; Obama Wins VT"

yea because you wanted it here then on FOX, CBS, ABC, NBC, MsNBC, CNN, Fox News and all over the net but you wanted here as well

Clinton won 3 states but is really behind and will not win legally

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liberalista @ 81:

Nice to see an election result post again. I don't remember seeing any on Wednesday that said, "Clinton Wins RI, Ohio, and Texas; Obama Wins VT"

Funny, I was just gonna argue conspiracy in the other direction, because CL didn't have the results as they came in, and delayed running anything for so long....contrary to last tuesday....

i guess it all depends on who you're rooting for, especially when it gets to crazy ideas like MSM and blog bias

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Obama wins a predominately "white state". Don't hear the talking bobble heads spitting this out all day.

Oh, but wait until its time for Mississippi to vote. You will hear black this and black that all freakin day!!

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Hillary_is_Scum @ 88:

L.A. Confidential @ 84:

Hillary_is_Scum @ 80:

Hillary_is_Scum @ 75:

!*!K You

Is that you Melanie? Had a few to many adult beverages tonight?

LOL

your a ------- creepy and probability can't get laid because you are a big and fat gross ----

The opposite I got laid to much and thats why I quit and have always been 30 Lb's underweight according to the National Standards my entire life.

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Monitor: clean up in aisle 88.

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Okay on to the next topic.

LOL see you up there.

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oncall @ 89:

Monitor: clean up in aisle 88.

LOL.

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oncall @ 79:

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 42:

cay enns @ 27:

He's On Top, And She Agrees

Pathetic and disgusting comment, Cay. Apparently you take your cue from Rush Limbaugh. Don't some of you Obama fanatics realize how low you are going?

Ironic that you would say something like that. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she said, "No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.." when replying to a question about Obama being a Muslim. I thought Hillary and company went pretty low when her campaign accused Obama of Ken Starr tactics. I thought Hillary went pretty low when it was clear that it was her campaign that talked with the Canadians about NAFTA. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she suggested that McCain is more qualified to be President. At that point, I thought she went so low, I decided to contribute to Obama's campaign.

Take a deep breath, OnCall. I like Obama and Clinton. Either will be a great president. While there are some Clinton supporters who are OTT, it sure seems to me that there are a greater number of Obama supporters who somehow feel justified in employing Rovian flame tactics.

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oncall @ 89:

Monitor: clean up in aisle 88.

[More mindless filth]

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Hillary_is_Scum @ 88:

L.A. Confidential @ 84:

Hillary_is_Scum, But I'm a Naughty Troll @ 80:

Hillary_is_Scum, But I'm a Naughty Troll @ 75:

!*!K You

Is that you Melanie? Had a few to many adult beverages tonight?

LOL

[I get the last word. Deleted-Sitemonitor]

let's not get crazy personal here....

this is about issues and candidates, not you and me or any of us

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Why didn't you make such healine when Clinton won in Tx, OH and RI? Oh yeah, the bias thing and so on...

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nyguy @ 95:

Why didn't you make such healine when Clinton won in Tx, OH and RI? Oh yeah, the bias thing and so on...

maybe cause she didn't win till about 3 am

why didn't they do a rolling tally, as they've always done in the past, before Clinton shifted the momentum....

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nyguy @ 96:

Why didn't you make such healine when Clinton won in Tx, OH and RI? Oh yeah, the bias thing and so on...

The facts are that Obama won Texas. http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/03/obama_wins_texas.aspx

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ohio progressive @ 97:

nyguy @ 95:

Why didn't you make such healine when Clinton won in Tx, OH and RI? Oh yeah, the bias thing and so on...

maybe cause she didn't win till about 3 am

why didn't they do a rolling tally, as they've always done in the past, before Clinton shifted the momentum....

??? So? How about making the headline next day?

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X @ 69:

This is what happens when the state of Ohio isn't around to screw things up...

AND - the only reason Texas went to Hillary is that it was an open primary... so all the Rape-publicans voted for Hillary (while holding their noses and taking a strong shower afterwards) because they think McCain can beat Hillary...true? yes!

Travis County (Austin) was almost 70% Obama while Williamson & Hays County nearby (total redneck republicans) were running out of Democratic ballots by noon (there are no dems in those counties)!!

They were all on right wing radio the next day bragging about how they screwed the Democratic Party!

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OH - by the way - I think the WIN in Texas will be reversed once the caucus results are final.... Obama actually won more delegates in Texas than Hillary! HA!!

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L.A. Confidential @ 29:

L.A. Confidential @ 23:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Many of Obamas senior advisers include heavy hitters from the Clinton administration.

"Listen to the Silence"

And Hillary's campaign manager is bestest bud's with McCain's campaign manager, even working for the same Lobby Firm........hmmmmmmm.....*crickets*

Ivan's picture

Yes We Can!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No she won't!!!

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Laura Hitt @ 102:

X @ 69:

This is what happens when the state of Ohio isn't around to screw things up...

AND - the only reason Texas went to Hillary is that it was an open primary... so all the Rape-publicans voted for Hillary (while holding their noses and taking a strong shower afterwards) because they think McCain can beat Hillary...true? yes!

Travis County (Austin) was almost 70% Obama while Williamson & Hays County nearby (total redneck republicans) were running out of Democratic ballots by noon (there are no dems in those counties)!!

They were all on right wing radio the next day bragging about how they screwed the Democratic Party!

Actually the exit polls showed that of all the republicans who voted for a democratic candidate, Obama took 55% and Clinton 45% of their votes.

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ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 104:

L.A. Confidential @ 29:

L.A. Confidential @ 23:

Truth B Told @ 13:

Many of Obamas senior advisers include heavy hitters from the Clinton administration.

"Listen to the Silence"

And Hillary's campaign manager is bestest bud's with McCain's campaign manager, even working for the same Lobby Firm........hmmmmmmm.....*crickets*

yeah, there's no conflict of interest there. not one bit.

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I do not think that Hillary can win the south over John McCain. Because she cannot win the south, I do not think that she has a chance to be the next president. Hillary's tactics over the last few months towards Obama have shown her true colors in my opinion.

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adam franklin @ 108:

I do not think that Hillary can win the south over John McCain. Because she cannot win the south, I do not think that she has a chance to be the next president. Hillary's tactics over the last few months towards Obama have shown her true colors in my opinion.

What attitude? The only reason that Obama hasn't got all negative so far is because the mainstream media, blogs and air america are doing his dirty job.

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some meaningful quotes from Obama's foreign policy adviser - Zbigniew Brzezinski, the guy who started Operation Cyclone and the REAL originator of Al Qaida

"... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book.” (p. xiv)

“Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

“The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)

"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last." (p.209)

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” (pp 24-5)

"For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.” (p.30)

“It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

"America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive importance to America's global primacy and to America's historical legacy." (p.194)

Obama is a sock-puppet for the elite.

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One more quote from Brzezinski - Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Brzezinski states that the Establishment's plans for America's future are

"directly linked to the impact of technology" and "involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite ... unrestrained by the restraints of traditional ... values. This elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public and keeping society under close surveillance and control."

In the January, 1968, edition of Encounter, Brzezinski elaborated on the prison camp he envisions for the U.S. It will be "possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files, containing even the most personal information about the health or personal behavior of the citizen in addition to more customary data. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by THE authority."

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Truth B Told @ 111:

One more quote from Brzezinski - Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Brzezinski states that the Establishment's plans for America's future are

"directly linked to the impact of technology" and "involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite ... unrestrained by the restraints of traditional ... values. This elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public and keeping society under close surveillance and control."

In the January, 1968, edition of Encounter, Brzezinski elaborated on the prison camp he envisions for the U.S. It will be "possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files, containing even the most personal information about the health or personal behavior of the citizen in addition to more customary data. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by THE authority."

SShhhh, most people here chose to ignore what they don't want to hear. Kinda like Bush's supporters, don't you know?

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States won with 60% or more of the vote:

Barack Obama: 14 States + DC + VI * Virgin Islands (89.9%) * Idaho (79%) * Hawaii (76%) * Alaska (75%) * District of Columbia (75%) * Kansas (74%) * Washington (68%) * Nebraska (68%) * Minnesota (67%) * Colorado (67%) * Georgia (67%) * Illinois (65%) * Virginia (64%) * Maryland (62%) * North Dakota (61%) * Wyoming (61%)

Hillary Clinton: 1 State * Arkansas (70%)

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I am sure that nobody scrolls down this far, but:
Does anyone know where I can find Obama "add creative" for my websites, like the one seen on the right of this site?
It doesn't show up in seamonkey when I open this site in the editor.
I haven't been able to find any on the Obama site.
I guess I will "view source" and try to pick it out of there.
Thanks.

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Truth B Told @ 110:

Obama is a sock-puppet for the elite.

As opposed to McCain. Or Hillary.

Of course Obama is hooked up. You don't get as far as he has in politics by not sucking up to the money. However, as someone noted above it will at least involve a new set of crooks and not the same zombies we've been stuck with since Nixon.

Time for new blood in Warshington, even if it's as infected as what we currently have at least it's in the early stages of infection and might not be so debilitating.

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BoilThemInTheirOil @ 94:

oncall @ 79:

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 42:

cay enns @ 27:

Pathetic and disgusting comment, Cay. Apparently you take your cue from Rush Limbaugh. Don't some of you Obama fanatics realize how low you are going?

Ironic that you would say something like that. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she said, "No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.." when replying to a question about Obama being a Muslim. I thought Hillary and company went pretty low when her campaign accused Obama of Ken Starr tactics. I thought Hillary went pretty low when it was clear that it was her campaign that talked with the Canadians about NAFTA. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she suggested that McCain is more qualified to be President. At that point, I thought she went so low, I decided to contribute to Obama's campaign.

Take a deep breath, OnCall. I like Obama and Clinton. Either will be a great president. While there are some Clinton supporters who are OTT, it sure seems to me that there are a greater number of Obama supporters who somehow feel justified in employing Rovian flame tactics.

Yes, I am tired of the bickering and fighting. I agree that either would be better for America than John McCain. I think we all need to step back and objectively look what is happening here. Nearly half a billion dollars has been contributed to these campaigns, and now it is coming down to who can win by being the nastiest. I can think of many other things that money like that could be used for. Instead it is being used for mailers, radio spots, and t.v. commercials which are meant to destroy the other candidate. I am not partisan in this and only contributed to Obama because I am sickened by negative campaigning. Are both sides guilty, yes. But not both candidates. One has to look not only at the campaign workers and staff that are saying outrageous things, but also the candidate themselves.

I have a question; what would be the response from the Clinton campaign if Obama implicitly suggested that McCain is more responsible to be President as compared to Hillary Clinton?

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ohio progressive @ 66:

CheneyIsADick @ 55:

ohio progressive @ 46:
Truth B Told @ 13:
Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip

Like I said @ 40: Obama is CFR connected. That's why the author of "The Grand Chessboard" is on his team. No matter who winns the election; YOU LOOSE!

dig your bunkers now....rev hagee is right....

Whatever. Sure as hell hope I don't get the last laugh.

odanny's picture

Democrats in Wyoming? Hey thats great! Didnt know there were any. And sounds like they turned out in force.

Thats the great thing about this Clinton/Obama battle, its energizing every primary state it goes to. And think of McCain facing one of these two, it will be lights out for Johnny.
Ask those teams who sit waiting for their opponent in the World Series how it works out for them. They usually lose.

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Different Anonymous @ 115:

Truth B Told @ 110:

Obama is a sock-puppet for the elite.

As opposed to McCain. Or Hillary.

Of course Obama is hooked up. You don't get as far as he has in politics by not sucking up to the money. However, as someone noted above it will at least involve a new set of crooks and not the same zombies we've been stuck with since Nixon.

Time for new blood in Warshington, even if it's as infected as what we currently have at least it's in the early stages of infection and might not be so debilitating.

I never excluded McCain or Clinton. I'm just saying that the elite have stacked the deck that no matter who is elected from the candidates that they selected for our choice, they win. that is, unless the people were smart enough to pick the only two candidates who actually do qualify as new blood - Kucinich and Paul. But the media and the elites saw to those problems.

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Sharktattoo @ 30:

Excuse me! I live in Laramie, Wyoming, and, no matter how small our population, we damn well count! It was so heartening this morning to see how many Democrats showed up to cast their ballots. Our poor old civic center was overwhelmed-they had to split the voters up into two rooms!

Last night I stood in line for over an hour to see Sen. Obama speak at UW. 8500 people showed up for his rally, and quite a few showed up for Pres. Bill Clinton. Yes, I know neither candidate would have shown up if the race weren't so close, but I don't care. It was democracy in action, and our delegate count is just as freakin' important as any other state. So please, all of you on here who like to make cracks about our state, shut up. Celebrate instead the incredible force of change that is moving through this country, and the people who are, finally, making sure their voice will be heard.

Thank you for showing up, and for caucusing! : )

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Marco @ 35:

Congrats to Obama on another stunning caucus win, but go Hillary.

That was kind. Thanks.

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oncall @ 116:

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 94:

oncall @ 79:

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 42:

Ironic that you would say something like that. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she said, "No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.." when replying to a question about Obama being a Muslim. I thought Hillary and company went pretty low when her campaign accused Obama of Ken Starr tactics. I thought Hillary went pretty low when it was clear that it was her campaign that talked with the Canadians about NAFTA. I thought Hillary went pretty low when she suggested that McCain is more qualified to be President. At that point, I thought she went so low, I decided to contribute to Obama's campaign.

Take a deep breath, OnCall. I like Obama and Clinton. Either will be a great president. While there are some Clinton supporters who are OTT, it sure seems to me that there are a greater number of Obama supporters who somehow feel justified in employing Rovian flame tactics.

Yes, I am tired of the bickering and fighting. I agree that either would be better for America than John McCain. I think we all need to step back and objectively look what is happening here. Nearly half a billion dollars has been contributed to these campaigns, and now it is coming down to who can win by being the nastiest. I can think of many other things that money like that could be used for. Instead it is being used for mailers, radio spots, and t.v. commercials which are meant to destroy the other candidate. I am not partisan in this and only contributed to Obama because I am sickened by negative campaigning. Are both sides guilty, yes. But not both candidates. One has to look not only at the campaign workers and staff that are saying outrageous things, but also the candidate themselves.

I have a question; what would be the response from the Clinton campaign if Obama implicitly suggested that McCain is more responsible to be President as compared to Hillary Clinton?

You have your answer in the Hillary's reaction to Obama's innocent but true observation that Ronald Reagan was a transformational leader in American politics. The Clinton's rode that tired pony for weeks. Hypocrisy doesn't get more blatant than that.

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Am I reading this right? 7000 votes!? More people than that vote in my part of town ALONE. When all is said and done will he get 1 or 2 more delegates than Hillary? What is the reasoning behind Caucasus? Was it cheaper? Is it traditional? It would be interesting to find out.

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It's a freakin' caucas in a Republican state. You do get that don't you? No, didn't think so. I mean, yeah Obama can win a hundred of them and it won't mean squat in November. But enjoy this nonsense anyway.

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nyguy @ 109:

adam franklin @ 108:

I do not think that Hillary can win the south over John McCain. Because she cannot win the south, I do not think that she has a chance to be the next president. Hillary's tactics over the last few months towards Obama have shown her true colors in my opinion.

What attitude? The only reason that Obama hasn't got all negative so far is because the mainstream media, blogs and air america are doing his dirty job.

Not over the past three weeks. He's taken it from all sides: the press, Clinton, McCain, and Chimpy. I think he's held up pretty well. He's kept his cool and he's tried to give his side of things. If this is any indication of how he'll deal with the Republican hit machine leading up to November, I'm impressed.

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Am I reading this right? 7000 votes!? More people than that vote in my part of town ALONE. When all is said and done will he get 1 or 2 more delegates than Hillary? What is the reasoning behind Caucasus? Was it cheaper? Is it traditional? It would be interesting to find out. Everyone else there wears RED.

Dude ... They don't call it WhY oming for no reason

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Buck on, Equality State! As a former Wyomingite, I have never been proud for my old home state than before!!

In 2004 primary election, only 675 people cast their Democratic votes. Today? THOUSANDSSSSSS!!!!!!! In Wyoming, the polls stay open for one hour then it closes. When the polls closed, hundreds of people were left stranded. Its amazing that Obama captured 5,378 STATE delegates in the state of Wyoming. In Dick Cheney's county (Teton), over 1,300 delegate votes were counted. Dick Cheney will be avoiding Teton County for the rest of his life (haha). Next time I drive through Wyoming, I will be beaming with pride what they did today.

Some musical songs about the great state of Wyoming.

Raining Jane -- Wyoming Sky (can't get the song out of my head! The song reminds me of home)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7y5Q1tp8fuU

Bill Staines -- My Sweet Wyoming Home
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fZaGjPOPhwk

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odanny @ 118:

Democrats in Wyoming? Hey thats great! Didnt know there were any. And sounds like they turned out in force.

Yup. :)

Thats the great thing about this Clinton/Obama battle, its energizing every primary state it goes to. And think of McCain facing one of these two, it will be lights out for Johnny.
Ask those teams who sit waiting for their opponent in the World Series how it works out for them. They usually lose.

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gowest272004 @ 127:

Buck on, Equality State! As a former Wyomingite, I have never been proud for my old home state than before!!

In 2004 primary election, only 675 people cast their Democratic votes. Today? THOUSANDSSSSSS!!!!!!! In Wyoming, the polls stay open for one hour then it closes. When the polls closed, hundreds of people were left stranded. Its amazing that Obama captured 5,378 STATE delegates in the state of Wyoming. In Dick Cheney's county (Teton), over 1,300 delegate votes were counted. Dick Cheney will be avoiding Teton County for the rest of his life (haha). Next time I drive through Wyoming, I will be beaming with pride what they did today.

I agree, this is pretty amazing. The state of Wyoming should be proud--and I'm not just saying that because the caucus went for Obama. When one group of people is so greatly outnumbered by another, it takes a lot of courage to speak up and say, "Hell, yeah, this is who we are. Deal with it."

That said, I have to think that having Obama in this race has really energized not only minority Democrats, but also Republicans who were afraid to say that things need to be done differently--that cooperating is more conducive to addressing problems than just all-out open warfare.

I've said this before: my grandmother is a staunch (and uninformed) Republican. And she's going to change her party affiliation in May so she can vote for Obama (assuming he's still on the ballot here in Oregon). Why? Her reasoning: "He doesn't hate Republicans." To me, that says a lot, and it's positive. I don't expect any one candidate to be the panacea to all our issues, but we have to start somewhere. We can accomplish a lot of things by getting behind one person, even if we know that person will sometimes disappoint us or not always be able to solve a problem. But I believe he offers the best opportunity for unity this country's had in a very long time.

Congrats on your state's turnout today. Wyoming may not go Democratic in November (or it may, who knows?). But at least here's hoping you have someone you can proudly cast your ballot for.

Rob's picture

Hillary says "I am going to do this for you". When I hear those words I know to pucker my asshole, plug my ears. and close my mouth cuz, I am about to get Fucked somewhere! The "Pro's", have pissed on the people since Governor Ray guns. Roll up your sleeves, get to work with Obama. He says over and over :"Yes we can". If I am not mistaken, that works only from the ground up.

Throw out the lock step Retuglicans and the Blue Dog Demoscrpts. Oh yeah, LIEberman too. This is the last chance to have a "Bloodless Revolution". The next stop is send lawyers, guns, and money. de Tocqueville said, People get the Government the deserve.,

Hillary is full of corporate cash and estrogen. Kabooooooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kb's picture

Obama is a phony. He has always been a self centered political ladder climber who doesn't care about the issues of his own constituents. If you can handle the truth about Barack read this...

http://dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/print

ose's picture

I think it would have been wise for Obama to give a victory speech today after winning Wyoming just to let the Hillary camp and all these talking heads on tv know that he just won another state and more delegates. I also would like to see him emphasize that he believes EVERY state matters in our nation unlike Clinton who looks down on what they call "small states"

To all of you that are saying HC is winning the states that matters for the Dems in the GE, I say to you all that in the GE, Obama will win NY, MA, CA, and NJ. He will also put in play Virginia, Colorado, and Missouri.

xargaw's picture

Despite how the Clintons choose to spin this thing, every state matters and every single delegate matters. Hillary does not like caucus states because she says caucuses attract mostly activists. Isn't that another word for engaged electorate, informed voter, good citizen, responsible adult, patriot? Caucuses attract the "most informed and involved" people. Funny, how once you become informed Obama wins by large margins.

Mark's picture

gowest272004 @ 127:

Buck on, Equality State! As a former Wyomingite, I have never been proud for my old home state than before!!

In 2004 primary election, only 675 people cast their Democratic votes. Today? THOUSANDSSSSSS!!!!!!! In Wyoming, the polls stay open for one hour then it closes. When the polls closed, hundreds of people were left stranded. Its amazing that Obama captured 5,378 STATE delegates in the state of Wyoming. In Dick Cheney's county (Teton), over 1,300 delegate votes were counted. Dick Cheney will be avoiding Teton County for the rest of his life (haha). Next time I drive through Wyoming, I will be beaming with pride what they did today.

Some musical songs about the great state of Wyoming.

Raining Jane -- Wyoming Sky (can't get the song out of my head! The song reminds me of home)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7y5Q1tp8fuU

Bill Staines -- My Sweet Wyoming Home
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fZaGjPOPhwk

Wow, that's pretty impressive considering the circumstances and the fact that on the republican side only 12 people voted!

p.s. Love those songs!

nohobearhussein's picture

I @ 65:

Truth B Told @ 13:

PNAC wins again.

Why does Obama have Zbigniew Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser?

Why does Obama have a Skull N Bones economic adviser?

Why don't you have anything better to do than throw around innuendos? All you can do is try to make Obama look as bad as your own candidate.

Why don't you say something positive about Hillary instead? If you're a democrat, of course.

Hillary is not a monster. And she is not a lesbian-as far as I know.

moonsha's picture

The California Primary results were finally certified on Tuesday, March 4,
and the final result is that Obama has picked up 4 delegates from
Hillary - for a total 8 delegate swing.

Hillary's net delegate win on March 4 was approximately 8 delegates.

The result? Hillary's victories on March 4 were a wash.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/california-primary-res...

Rob's picture

Hillary is not a thespian, that is really her true character, as far as I know.

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CoIntelPro's picture

X @ 69:

This is what happens when the state of Ohio isn't around to screw things up...

don't leave out CONn.

gowest272004's picture

RobertD, I hear ya man! I canNOT wait to cast my vote in May (I am from Oregon too!). As Obama mentioned in Casper, the West has strong libertartan leanings. Very true. We have strong anti-government feelings. In Wyoming, there is a strong movement of Libertartanism (smaller government, lower taxes, civil liberties). It was shocking to see how many Libertarian leaning voters filled the polling stations and voted for Obama! Wyoming will always accept Republicanism. But on rare occasions, they'll see through the hypocrites of politicans. McCain and Clinton are too pro-government and pro-lobbyism. Obama strong victory in red state Wyoming is actue proof that he can reach across to ALL voters. 8300 plus state delegate votres in Wyoming for the Democrat party is UNHEARD of. I hope people of PA are reading this thread and relay it to all their friends, family and neighbors. GO OBAMA!

gowest272004's picture

Mark @ 134:

gowest272004 @ 127:

Buck on, Equality State! As a former Wyomingite, I have never been proud for my old home state than before!!

In 2004 primary election, only 675 people cast their Democratic votes. Today? THOUSANDSSSSSS!!!!!!! In Wyoming, the polls stay open for one hour then it closes. When the polls closed, hundreds of people were left stranded. Its amazing that Obama captured 5,378 STATE delegates in the state of Wyoming. In Dick Cheney's county (Teton), over 1,300 delegate votes were counted. Dick Cheney will be avoiding Teton County for the rest of his life (haha). Next time I drive through Wyoming, I will be beaming with pride what they did today.

Some musical songs about the great state of Wyoming.

Raining Jane -- Wyoming Sky (can't get the song out of my head! The song reminds me of home)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7y5Q1tp8fuU

Bill Staines -- My Sweet Wyoming Home
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fZaGjPOPhwk

Wow, that's pretty impressive considering the circumstances and the fact that on the republican side only 12 people voted!

p.s. Love those songs!

Five delegate votes went "uncommitted" Hahahahahhhhhhaa!!!!!!!!

CoIntelPro's picture

nyguy @ 109:

adam franklin @ 108:

I do not think that Hillary can win the south over John McCain. Because she cannot win the south, I do not think that she has a chance to be the next president. Hillary's tactics over the last few months towards Obama have shown her true colors in my opinion.

What attitude? The only reason that Obama hasn't got all negative so far is because the mainstream media, blogs and air america are doing his dirty job.

such a pity that your hero [T]rudy is not in the race any more, eh?

gowest272004's picture

Another important victory for the Democrats tonight. Businessman and scientist Bill Foster topped Oberweis to clinch "Fats" Hastert's seat. Althought, the seat is temporary but the message is quite clear: even in heavy Republican seats, nothing is certain for the GOP.

Another point for the Democrats!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080309/ap_on_el_ho/congress_hastert_s_seat

Joshua Lee Friday's picture

What about Obama's hypocrisy on Iraq?
Senator saw 'obligation' in '04 to success of state--In July of 2004, the day after his speech at the Democratic convention catapulted him into the national spotlight, Barack Obama told a group of reporters in Boston that the United States had an "absolute obligation" to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/08/obama_stance_on_ir...

Paul in LA's picture

The myths abound.

Obama is a FAR better Presidential choice than McCain't, and HRC is going to make a great Vice President.

The singular value of Obama in this setting is that he is an engaging liberal. All the people whining about how their dream date didn't get enough votes are missing the point of WHO IS.

Obama or McCain't is NOT a hard choice. And the troll-like voices preaching leftist mythology and litmus tests in a perfect world, are just defeatists with SOUR GRAPES on their table.

cali222's picture

Nicole Belle @ 21:

unfrozencaveman @ 17:

What's up with that picture and the blotchy skin? Can't you find a better photo?

That's from MSNBC. Take it up with their art department. Although you might want to take it up with your computer retail store, because the picture looks fine on my monitor.

I agree-- the picture looks strange-- for some reason his skin looks a lot darker there-- I can't tell if it's the lighting or if the colors have been adjusted in the photo. Either way, there are much better pictures you could use... for example the one on msnbc's front page: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Truth's picture

Obama won the Cactus Caucus so he should be president. Who needs California and New York when you have Wyoming and Kansas?

Fil's picture

downplaying small states huh?
well lots of small states in total do matter according the leading candidate.

Giuliani strategy fails

kerplunk's picture

Obama is surging!

ohio progressive's picture

kb @ 131:

Obama is a phony. He has always been a self centered political ladder climber who doesn't care about the issues of his own constituents. If you can handle the truth about Barack read this...

http://dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/print

ahhhh, that's a reporter that needs an editor, number one.

the reporter seems a tad nostalgically bitter, maybe he's got a great novel he's been sucking on forever that nobody will publish.

he drops a bomb-- obama smokes, obama yells, even swears.....

but you see, what the Clintonistas don't understand, is that Obama supporters aren't nuts too-- we don't think he's super human.....

For the sake of the reporter who wrote such a poorly crafted meandering pointless article (sorta like some 15 year olds rant about how somebody looked at him funny at school), and for the sake of the notion that there are credible arguments against obama, i wouldn't push that article around so aggressively.... or maybe re-read it.....

there's no there there...

unless you really are shocked and appalled that he swears and yells.

(pssssst....he has sex with his wife also....and likely enjoys it)

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