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Given the humiliating difficulties facing the National Republican Congressional Committee, I guess it's not too surprising the gang would try to connect Democratic House candidates to Eliot Spitzer's scandal, but this is just weak.

The NRCC, which is broke and in danger of sustaining more House losses, is grabbing at the Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal like a lifeline, sending out e-mails about Dem incumbents with the following title:

"Will John Hall Return Spitzer's Sleazy Money?"

So far we've received five e-mails over at TPM: Three messages targeting freshman incumbents Michael Arcuri, Kirsten Gillibrand and John Hall, plus two against challengers Dan Maffei and Eric Massa, all of whom the NRCC says are now "ensnared" in Spitzer's scandal.

To appreciate just how sad this is, consider that The Corner is dismissing it as nonsense: "Spitzer's moral turpitude has no bearing on the contributions he makes to candidates in his party. Unless the money was stolen, its return is a public relations exercise with no basis in moral reality."

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El Cid's picture

Plus, any money Spitzer donated to candidates was not money going to hookers.

Seele's picture

This will quickly become a non-issue.

James Ratliff's picture

The AMerican people have become so desensitised since the republicans decided to murder a million Iraqi's that who cares about a little sex? Isn't murder more inportant?

The Truthiness Hurts's picture

exercise with no basis in moral reality

Applicable to so many things the republicans do these days...

right wing hater's picture

OMG....you mean to tell me there's actually a Democratic politician in trouble in a sex scandal?

Geez....I guess the other 10 Republican/GOP Adultery/Pedophile/Self-hating Gay Sex scandals have numbed the public & CM (corporate Media) to a point where its ho-hum, another day another GOP/Republican sex scandal....

But...hey...this is B I G news....

Del Capslock's picture

To appreciate just how sad this is, consider that The Corner is dismissing it as nonsense: “Spitzer’s moral turpitude has no bearing on the contributions he makes to candidates in his party. Unless the money was stolen, its return is a public relations exercise with no basis in moral reality.”

Kind of surprising that they would acknowledge this, but it's still pretty funny to read The Corner's pontifications on what constitutes "moral reality".

Dhalgren's picture

I've had a complete change of heart about Spitzer. He doesn't have to resign, nor does he have to apologize to anyone other than his family. If Craig and Vitter can stay in the Senate, then Spitzer can stay in the State House. I want to see him get up there, drop some f-bombs on the Republicans, and tell them:

I'm not going anywhere.

Dhalgren's picture

"You f-ing with me, you f-fing with the best!

Impeach me!"

ohio progressive's picture

James Ratliff @ 3:

The AMerican people have become so desensitised since the republicans decided to murder a million Iraqi's that who cares about a little sex? Isn't murder more inportant?

Look, the Republicans in NY are going to impeach Spitzer over gorgeous prostitutes...

The Democrats in Congress have been afraid to even stand up to Bush, let alone impeach him for the high crimes he's committed. Everybody knew Bush deserved impeachment, but the dems never thought it was politically feasible.

Framed up like this, the democrats will once again look like a bunch of cowardly ninnies.... Repubs are gonna take Spitzer down with impeachment (if he doesn't quit), and most people will be unsympathetic to the idea that he was targeted, that this is private behavior, whatever.....

And this will take impeachment off the table for heros like Wexler.....if Pelosi suddenly takes an interest in impeaching the one who deserves it, it'll look like payback for slamming spitzer....

frankly, i hope spitzer stays and fights and refuses to resign, only because the republicans are threatening impeachment....

that said, i still think spitzer is a dumb dirtbag who should take his private problems back into the private sector once he's done with this term

ohio progressive's picture

Dhalgren @ 7:

I've had a complete change of heart about Spitzer. He doesn't have to resign, nor does he have to apologize to anyone other than his family. If Craig and Vitter can stay in the Senate, then Spitzer can stay in the State House. I want to see him get up there, drop some f-bombs on the Republicans, and tell them:

I'm not going anywhere.

I agree with you, only because the Republicans are threatening impeachment...

But I don't think it does anything but underscore that republicans are dirtbags too.....

and spitzer had a much higher national profile...like it or not, this guys been a hero going back to 2000 or thereabouts...

vitter? never heard of him, some kook in the congress who used to slobber about clinton...

spitzer? national hero destined to be president one day...

this is bad for all sides....republicans win when everybody gets cynical, cause only the crooks and the zombies show up to vote

ysbaddaden's picture

That's what I've been saying. Spitzer was a crusader against primarily financial corruption, not moral. So unless he was using government money for his whoring he can't really be accused of hypocrisy.

However, that's not to say resignation shouldn't take some serious thought.

Perhaps Spitzer could serve in some other capacity for the citizenry of America from corrrupt Corporate Interests.

I understand there's a vacancy where Ralph Nader used to be.

Craig's picture

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

Hooks's picture

we're acting just as bad as the republicans. Defend the party member till you're blue in the face, no matter what he does. Spitzer is an arrogant, hypocritical prick. How can this site, or anyone for that matter, defend him?

Michael M.'s picture

Before Monday, Eliot Spitzer was a rising star in the Democratic Party. Now, after being linked to a prostitution ring, political advisers are split over whether the New York governor has a political future.

www.cnn.com

So is he a Dem or Rep?

slippy hussein toad's picture

It's amazing that the Republicans want to talk about sex scandals. Because apparently they think the American public won't remember these Republicans:

Mark Foley
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Bob Allen (McCain's campaign director)
Glenn Murphy Jr.

Among MANY, MANY others.

ysbaddaden's picture

ohio progressive @ 10:

this is bad for all sides....republicans win when everybody gets cynical, cause only the crooks and the zombies show up to vote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5IRI4oHKNU

Hooks's picture

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

Exactly.

ohio progressive's picture

ysbaddaden @ 11:

That's what I've been saying. Spitzer was a crusader against primarily financial corruption, not moral. So unless he was using government money for his whoring he can't really be accused of hypocrisy.

However, that's not to say resignation shouldn't take some serious thought.

Perhaps Spitzer could serve in some other capacity for the citizenry of America from corrrupt Corporate Interests.

I understand there's a vacancy where Ralph Nader used to be.

if spitzer was a single guy, nobody would care, and most guys would be honest about envying the SOB....(whoweee those ladies were hot)

but he's married with kids.....

he's a dirtbag by all definitions (except european?)

I still hope he squares off with idiots like King though....

"I agree to resign if President Bush agrees to resign....otherwise, impeach us both"

slippy hussein toad's picture

Hooks @ 13:

we're acting just as bad as the republicans. Defend the party member till you're blue in the face, no matter what he does. Spitzer is an arrogant, hypocritical prick. How can this site, or anyone for that matter, defend him?

I think if you search the very first Spitzer story you will find me, at least, calling for his immediate resignation.

What's germane here is that the R's don't seem to have an ironic bone in their bodies and can't understand how silly it looks for them to be pointing at Spitzer screaming: "Sex scandal! Sex scandal!"

It's like them coming across the room to point at the single dusty porno tape in the Democratic closet while the blood-soaked bones pour out of the closet on their side. Utterly absurd attempt to transfer their own massive amounts of sleaze.

moondancer's picture

What the Corner made a reasonable statement? That calls for an investigation. Dont be misled by NRCC's money woes. The national party is sitting on seventy million plus. They can spend that anyway they want.

Radically Moderate's picture

Repugs to Dems:
"he is evil,evil evil!"
Dems to Repugs:
"well, at least he's not gay"

The question is:

"When will the Republicans return the donations they got from the hookers"

9 out of 10 prostitutes prefer Republican candidates because of their quicker ejaculation times.

OleHippieChick's picture

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

Definitely! In the end, nothing should happen to either one.
What's with the power/wick-dipping thang? At least there weren't DIAPERS involved.

moondancer's picture

A plausible statement might be I'll resign when Vitter does.

Dhalgren's picture

If he can put his wife up there on that podium for those two very painful minutes, then he can live through an impeachment. Let's put impeachment on the table - nationwide.

Arnold. Dick. George. Eliot. Let's make a list.

Hooks's picture

slippy hussein toad @ 19:

Hooks @ 13:

we're acting just as bad as the republicans. Defend the party member till you're blue in the face, no matter what he does. Spitzer is an arrogant, hypocritical prick. How can this site, or anyone for that matter, defend him?

I think if you search the very first Spitzer story you will find me, at least, calling for his immediate resignation.

What's germane here is that the R's don't seem to have an ironic bone in their bodies and can't understand how silly it looks for them to be pointing at Spitzer screaming: "Sex scandal! Sex scandal!"

It's like them coming across the room to point at the single dusty porno tape in the Democratic closet while the blood-soaked bones pour out of the closet on their side. Utterly absurd attempt to transfer their own massive amounts of sleaze.

This is a very valid point and I agree with you 100%. For the republicans to act up over this (or at least to an extreme) is not only retarded, but insane. They have no leg to stand on and the dems need to come back forcefully instead of lying down as they usually do.

Bill B's picture

This is why he he was too busy to conduct a criminal investigation of the 9-11 murders of 2001

Shadowgm's picture

What treatment is that?

Mark Foley had to be pushed to resign by Denny Hastert, who subsequently stepped down himself, and just lost his former seat to a Democrat.

David Vitter refused to resign and is still serving.

Larry Craig said he would resign, then changed his mind, and is still serving.

I certainly wouldn't scream foul if Spitzer saw fit to resign. Nor is it unreasonable for Spitzer to insist on fighting any charges (he's not been charged with anything, therefore, there's really no reason for him to resign).

Any hypocrisy will be quickly evident on the Republican side, in calls for Spitzer's impeachment.

The sad part is that the Democrats will sit there and take it in the ass ... again.

Hooks's picture

moondancer @ 24:

A plausible statement might be I'll resign when Vitter does.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vitter didn't bring down a prostitution ring (2 of them). Perhaps Spitzer was just erasing the competition for profit.

ysbaddaden's picture

Hooks @ 29:

moondancer @ 24:

A plausible statement might be I'll resign when Vitter does.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vitter didn't bring down a prostitution ring (2 of them). Perhaps Spitzer was just erasing the competition for profit.

But Craig did run of pro-family anti-homosexual issues.

Hooks's picture

That poor wife looks like she just had a 24 hour meltdown. I wonder if she knew a thing about it.

ysbaddaden's picture

Shadowgm @ 28:

What treatment is that?

Mark Foley had to be pushed to resign by Denny Hastert, who subsequently stepped down himself, and just lost his former seat to a Democrat.

David Vitter refused to resign and is still serving.

Larry Craig said he would resign, then changed his mind, and is still serving.

I certainly wouldn't scream foul if Spitzer saw fit to resign. Nor is it unreasonable for Spitzer to insist on fighting any charges (he's not been charged with anything, therefore, there's really no reason for him to resign).

Any hypocrisy will be quickly evident on the Republican side, in calls for Spitzer's impeachment.

The sad part is that the Democrats will sit there and take it in the ass ... again.

And republican pages.

ohio progressive's picture

Hooks @ 29:

moondancer @ 24:

A plausible statement might be I'll resign when Vitter does.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vitter didn't bring down a prostitution ring (2 of them). Perhaps Spitzer was just erasing the competition for profit.

Vitter was going after Clinton hard on impeachment, while he was lewinskying whores....

Vitter was a vocal part of an army of idiots that brought down a president.

i think the analogy holds,..

Marge's picture

Well over at two of the democratic sites they are trying to hook it up to Hillary. And they should be ashamed of themselves. So....the guy went to a prostitute...I don't see where it is a big deal, except it is against the law and it shouldn't be. I'm a woman who has been around for 76 years and I don't know why it isn't legal. I guess because the "holier than thou" crowd wants to delete anything pertaining to SEX out of the English language even...

One poster said this would disappear...oh no. The MSM will keep this in the public eye for months maybe even up to election still trying to hook the Dems to it. And by the way..how did they find it out. Wiretapping. Wonder what else bush and the republicans have in rove's dirty trick bag they "wiretapped" about the Democrats.

mudshark hussein's picture

Spitzer has to go.plain and simple.He used to be a DA.You can paint this anyway you like,it still comes out ugly.Hypocricy? Yes! I don't care what party they belong too,I'm sick and tired of the hypocricy.And if we're going to go after the GOP side,we better keep our own house clean as well.

Hooks's picture

ysbaddaden @ 30:

Hooks @ 29:

moondancer @ 24:

A plausible statement might be I'll resign when Vitter does.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Vitter didn't bring down a prostitution ring (2 of them). Perhaps Spitzer was just erasing the competition for profit.

But Craig did run of pro-family anti-homosexual issues.

I'm not excusing Craig one iota. The republicans should have forced him to step down. Just like the dems should force Spitzer to step down.

ohio progressive's picture

Marge @ 34:

Well over at two of the democratic sites they are trying to hook it up to Hillary.

I think it hurts obama in a general indirect way...

spitzer was a fairty tale that until yesterday everybody, including me, believed...

Petruk's picture

Spread this Meme:

When Dems get caught in a sex scandal, at least it is with a woman...

Dhalgren's picture

Here's a good reason we should want Spitzer to stay and fight. Look at Ace flip-flop over Spitzer and Vitter.

Don Davis's picture

GOP Defends Spitzer’s Prostitution Activities, But Slams Him For Doing It With ‘Undocumented Hookers’

Petruk's picture

Anyone who watches The Wire understands what went down here.

Wall Street reportedly cheered when the story broke. The Dems are poised to take over the NY State Legislature for the first time in like 50 years. Note that the inquirery was Federal, not State.

Sure he's fucking around. But they all are. This is politics.

Like Omar in The Wire said, when you go after the king, you best not miss...

Wall Street is King.

Cheers,
Petruk

Otay's picture

Republicans are pathetic. So are any Dems who fall for this and demand Spitzer's resignation.

Hooks's picture

mudshark hussein @ 35:

Spitzer has to go.plain and simple.He used to be a DA.You can paint this anyway you like,it still comes out ugly.Hypocricy? Yes! I don't care what party they belong too,I'm sick and tired of the hypocricy.And if we're going to go after the GOP side,we better keep our own house clean as well.

Exactly. You can't burn the candle at both ends.

Ash"Hussy"Williams's picture

Petruk @ 42:

Anyone who watches The Wire understands what went down here.

Wall Street reportedly cheered when the story broke. The Dems are poised to take over the NY State Legislature for the first time in like 50 years. Note that the inquirery was Federal, not State.

Sure he's fucking around. But they all are. This is politics.

Like Omar in The Wire said, when you go after the king, you best not miss...

Wall Street is King.

Cheers,
Petruk

Good post.
Agreed.

mudshark hussein's picture

with so much at stake in this election,this dumbass goes and does this.Fire his ass,if for nothing else,stupidity.

Hooks's picture

Otay @ 43:

Republicans are pathetic. So are any Dems who fall for this and demand Spitzer's resignation.

Fall for what? It was on a fucking wire tap. You don't think Spitzers lawyers will ask for discovery on this issue? If they do, and nothing happens, you know the budding issue will be that illegal activity was done on said wire tap.

Hooks's picture

"Spitzer got got" - Omar

spitz er swallows's picture

you gotta admit, this is a doozy.

spitz needs to resign immediately and save the dems from the scandal that has plagued the repbulican'ts.

Ruthless People's picture

The "Leebrul" NY Times broke this story. I'm wondering what wingnut talk show or cable news radio host is going to question the timing of this story in an election year?

Our leebrul media at work!

mudshark hussein's picture

Hooks @ 47:

Otay @ 43:

Republicans are pathetic. So are any Dems who fall for this and demand Spitzer's resignation.

Fall for what? It was on a fucking wire tap. You don't think Spitzers lawyers will ask for discovery on this issue? If they do, and nothing happens, you know the budding issue will be that illegal activity was done on said wire tap.

he might be able to fight this because of the wire tap.Legal? or Illegal?
regardless,the guy should be fired,for stupidity and hypocricy.

Hooks's picture

mudshark hussein @ 51:

Hooks @ 47:

Otay @ 43:

Republicans are pathetic. So are any Dems who fall for this and demand Spitzer's resignation.

Fall for what? It was on a fucking wire tap. You don't think Spitzers lawyers will ask for discovery on this issue? If they do, and nothing happens, you know the budding issue will be that illegal activity was done on said wire tap.

he might be able to fight this because of the wire tap.Legal? or Illegal?
regardless,the guy should be fired,for stupidity and hypocricy.

If anything, a wire tap is more detrimental to one's case. Now, if it was done illegally, the prosecution will not have a leg to stand on. But since Bush made wire taps more attainable, I don't think it looks good for Mr. Spitzer

Radically Moderate's picture

Politics and Prostitution the two oldest professions working side by side.

Radically Moderate's picture

Radically Moderate @ 53:

Politics and Prostitution the two oldest professions working side by side.

or is that one on top of the other?

The Smiths's picture

While this personal scandal is another sad "soap opera" chapter in american politics..

Lets look at the big picture .... the REAL scandal that put americans in danger....

Spitzer blew the whistle when he testified two weeks before this all happened..

Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime
How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR200802...

"Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. .....

Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.

...In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative.....

ohio progressive's picture

Spitzer is a dirtbag who should stay.

Make morons like King lead the way to his impeachment, and embarrass the hell out of cowards like Pelosi.

If Spitzer wasn't married with kids, this wouldn't be a story. They'd be high-fiving back at the capitol buidling, bragging about these hotties, forwarding bikini pics to the NYT..

This is all good for McCain.

Otay's picture

Hooks @ 47:

Otay @ 43:

Republicans are pathetic. So are any Dems who fall for this and demand Spitzer's resignation.

Fall for what? It was on a fucking wire tap. You don't think Spitzers lawyers will ask for discovery on this issue? If they do, and nothing happens, you know the budding issue will be that illegal activity was done on said wire tap.

Fall for demanding Spitzer's resignation when they did not demand Vitter's resignation. This event was relatively minor compared to what the media and Dems should be focusing on. I'm willing to bet that a large percentage of people in D.C. have picked up call girls.

Trii's picture

I'm sorry, He's got three teenage daughters and a wife and he's spending thousands on prostitutes while pursuing a public career based on his image of going after corruption?

The whole thing stinks - I say make him walk the plank.

mudshark hussein's picture

Hooks @ 52:

mudshark hussein @ 51:

Hooks @ 47:

Otay @ 43:
Fall for what? It was on a fucking wire tap. You don't think Spitzers lawyers will ask for discovery on this issue? If they do, and nothing happens, you know the budding issue will be that illegal activity was done on said wire tap.

he might be able to fight this because of the wire tap.Legal? or Illegal?
regardless,the guy should be fired,for stupidity and hypocricy.

If anything, a wire tap is more detrimental to one's case. Now, if it was done illegally, the prosecution will not have a leg to stand on. But since Bush made wire taps more attainable, I don't think it looks good for Mr. Spitzer

He might be able to save himself if he can prove an illegal wiretap.He can turn this around,but still,how frickin stupid is this guy?During this election ,he goes and does this.

but on the flip side,if he can show some smarts.He can turn this around.

mudshark hussein's picture

I wonder if he was set up?
It wouldn't be the first time the GOP has done something like this.

ohio progressive's picture

mudshark hussein @ 59:

Hooks @ 52:

mudshark hussein @ 51:

Hooks @ 47:
he might be able to fight this because of the wire tap.Legal? or Illegal?
regardless,the guy should be fired,for stupidity and hypocricy.

If anything, a wire tap is more detrimental to one's case. Now, if it was done illegally, the prosecution will not have a leg to stand on. But since Bush made wire taps more attainable, I don't think it looks good for Mr. Spitzer

He might be able to save himself if he can prove an illegal wiretap.He can turn this around,but still,how frickin stupid is this guy?During this election ,he goes and does this.

but on the flip side,if he can show some smarts.He can turn this around.

Turn this around?

there's no legal issue here....

it's the way he treated his wife and teenage daughters.

and there's no way to turn that around....

stay and fight, but only to embarrass Pelosi and the cowardly nuts in DC...

VOTE DONALD DUCK in november

Necadawg Says's picture

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

Craig there is no double standard. In the Craig and Vitters cases they are both active so why shouldnt spitzer? if Spitzer steps down so shoul Vitters and Craig is a whole different story unless you are for toilet sex and you approve it for your children

centralilgirl's picture

If politicians didn't accept money from men who go to hookers, there wouldn't be any political parties. Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession. The reason why? Men like to buy sex. That way they don't have to worry about the other woman calling the little lady and blabbing everything. It's a business deal that makes them feel in power. It's also a way to get blackmail information on someone in power. This is why there's so much corruption in politics. This is why Bush wants wiretapping legal. So the repugs can get as much dirt on their opponents as possible and blackmail them into submission. This is why the new FISA bill must not pass with the immunity claus in it.

ohio progressive's picture

mudshark hussein @ 60:

I wonder if he was set up?
It wouldn't be the first time the GOP has done something like this.

set up?

you make it sound like getting caught is the transgression.

He's a dad. To teenagers.

He's a husband to a wife.

He took down several prostitution organizations when he was the fairytale goodguy prosecutor...

Set up? You mean like, did Zeus have a hand in it? There is divinity in the fall of a sparrow?

Necadawg Says's picture

What ever happened to the steroid scandal in baseball. That should be more important

mudshark hussein's picture

ohio progressive @ 61:

mudshark hussein @ 59:

Hooks @ 52:

mudshark hussein @ 51:
If anything, a wire tap is more detrimental to one's case. Now, if it was done illegally, the prosecution will not have a leg to stand on. But since Bush made wire taps more attainable, I don't think it looks good for Mr. Spitzer

He might be able to save himself if he can prove an illegal wiretap.He can turn this around,but still,how frickin stupid is this guy?During this election ,he goes and does this.

but on the flip side,if he can show some smarts.He can turn this around.

Turn this around?

there's no legal issue here....

it's the way he treated his wife and teenage daughters.

and there's no way to turn that around....

stay and fight, but only to embarrass Pelosi and the cowardly nuts in DC...

VOTE DONALD DUCK in november

you're right about the personal issues.you'll have to forgive me,I started thinking in a political way.me,I like woody woodpecker.

rm-rf's picture

Really - what is the background on the federal investigation? what are the feds doing trying to bust a high class call girl ring? I mean you can just go online and find hundreds of these outfits operating in the open - why this one? I don't trust the federal justice department which can't even enforce a supena from congress but finds the time to go looking into a high-class call girl ring in new jersey - it stinks and nobody is pointing this out - I know Spitzer was stupid for doing this but there is a bigger issue here about the justice department and its prioriites....

Joementum's picture

He's gotta fall on his sword. He has zero credibility.

I don't really care what the Repukes say or do.

Ruthless People's picture

Kos has this:

"Amazing how Senator David Vitter’s name never leaked out of the Justice Department after the arrest of the D.C. Madam, but Eliot Spitzer’s name leaked out of the Justice Department within a week of the initial arrest in the Emperor V.I.P. case."

Gotugye's picture

The Republicans construct the frame and in a matter of hours if not days the MSM is promoting it as news. Don't underestimate the parasitic relationship between the Republicans and a corrupt and complicit MSM. It won't be long before the story is turned on it's head and the Dems will be playing defense concerning Spitzer's "political donations".

Gotugye's picture

Ruthless People @ 69:

Kos has this:

"Amazing how Senator David Vitter’s name never leaked out of the Justice Department after the arrest of the D.C. Madam, but Eliot Spitzer’s name leaked out of the Justice Department within a week of the initial arrest in the Emperor V.I.P. case."

The warrantless wiretaps are proving valuable in the Republicans efforts to hold on to power. It's a good way to keep the opposition party in line. It also serves as an effective means of preserving Republican blind obedience.

natisman's picture

So Spitzer has a ticket to the convention in denver as a commited delegate to Hilliary. Do you all think that Hilliary should should renounce Spitzers vote as she wanted Obama to renounce Louie Farraknon?

Hate to get back to the primaries, but that's what Hilliary would like?

Simon White-Thatch Potentloins's picture

First of all, Spitzer was incredibly stupid thinking he could pull this kind of shit off as governor and not get caught. That's some pretty piss-poor judgement on his part. It would be different if he was a nobody but he wasn't.

I understand that, technically, he was responsible for the transportation of a prostitute across state lines (NY to DC) which would make it a federal case. Christ, what a dumb ass!

Amitola's picture

Men are scum - especially men who are also politicians. We've plenty of evidence for this through the ages. Not only do they start/perpetuate wars that kill and maim millions, they also participate in illicit sex (and with Repugs it often involves persons of the same gender).

It's a shame how power corrupts, but this is just another "gotcha;" another scandal to distract our attention from the real crimes that are being perpetrated against our entire nation by the fascist, elitist, neo-con creeps.

Left&Left's picture

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

It's not the acts, it's the hypocrisy.

Patty D.'s picture

Watcihng the Repubs use Spitzer is a friggin joke! The Repubs, in spite of telling us how holy they are, have more skeletons in their closets then we can only imagine. My god, I beleive we are witnessing he fall of Rome.

VegasRage's picture

Great the party with a landfill of bones in its closet wants to point at the other party's bones. That ought to make them look more ethical. OK fake Christian's please now turn to Matthew 7:3-5 in your bible and read it 1000 times.

Lonny's picture

Too bad this won't sink Hillary. Well at least he can't campaign for her now.

Leslie Hussein's picture

Harper's Scott Horton believes the Spitzer sting may have been a political hit. Because the investigation didn't begin with the prostitution ring, but with a bank tip and the IRS looking into how Spitzer was spending his money.

there is a second tier of questions that needs to be examined with respect to the Spitzer case. They go to prosecutorial motivation and direction. Note that this prosecution was managed with staffers from the Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice. This section is now at the center of a major scandal concerning politically directed prosecutions. During the Bush Administration, his Justice Department has opened 5.6 cases against Democrats for every one involving a Republican. Beyond this, a number of the cases seem to have been tied closely to election cycles. Indeed, a study of the cases out of Alabama shows clearly that even cases opened against Republicans are in fact only part of a broader pattern of going after Democrats. So here are the rather amazing facts that surface in the Spitzer case:

(1) The prosecutors handling the case came from the Public Integrity Section.

(2) The prosecution is opened under the White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910. You read that correctly. The statute itself is highly disreputable, and most of the high-profile cases brought under it were politically motivated and grossly abusive.

Putin's Bicep's picture

Collusion between banks and the government should be troubling to all people. $4000 is hardly a lot of money but that amount is said to have set off a federal investigation?!?!?!

Governer Please...!

steve davis's picture

Will Spitzer's hooker have to return his money, now that it's been shown publicly to have been gained through illicit means? Yeah, you could argue that's an illogical question, but I'm hoping that whatsherface on CNN will read it and prompt Wolf to ask it of Paul Begala.

Mike's picture

Way to disgrace yourself, Elliot, and to heap shame upon your family. 5 grand for sex? Did she rebuild the transmission on his friggin Chrysler at the same time? Dude, that's like 200 BJs in St. Louis. Is stuff REALLY that much more expensive on the East Coast? You get what you give, Elliot, you get what you give. Thanks for nothing.

Mike's picture

Amitola @ 74:

Men are scum - especially men who are also politicians.

Up yours, I respect my wife and family. I don't know any hookers or dudes who pay 'em.

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Dhalgren @ 7:

I've had a complete change of heart about Spitzer. He doesn't have to resign, nor does he have to apologize to anyone other than his family. If Craig and Vitter can stay in the Senate, then Spitzer can stay in the State House. I want to see him get up there, drop some f-bombs on the Republicans, and tell them:

I'm not going anywhere.

Right on. It's another witchhunt to remove a Democratic governor from office.

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Dr. Acula @ 84:

Dhalgren @ 7:

I've had a complete change of heart about Spitzer. He doesn't have to resign, nor does he have to apologize to anyone other than his family. If Craig and Vitter can stay in the Senate, then Spitzer can stay in the State House. I want to see him get up there, drop some f-bombs on the Republicans, and tell them:

I'm not going anywhere.

Right on. It's another witchhunt to remove a Democratic governor from office.

Except this one was a witch.

ted's picture

You're kidding? The Governor of New York State does something incredibly illegal, though seemingly not all that rare for a politician, and THIS blog spins it as if he's an angel and the republicans are just trying to get him out of office?! The website is called "Crooks & Liars"...doesn't Governor Spitzer's actions define this website, or are we only supposed to believe that Republicans are crooks and liars? While I'm a big fan of the site, I think you're off the mark on this one. I'd have expected slightly more outrage than "Look how the Republicans will spin this". How sad.

I haven't decided whether this 'indiscretion' should qualify as enough to boot the man from office, but I do think that since his platform in NY was integrity & ethics, and he has personally prosecuted several prostitution and human trafficking rings, he should probably resign. What a disappointment...

stevie's picture

Let's not forget the voluminous listing of Repugnant Sex Crimes at:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

There are probably Rove attorneys involved planted to turn the heat on Spitzer and other Dems.

Mike's picture

Putin's Bicep @ 80:

Collusion between banks and the government should be troubling to all people. $4000 is hardly a lot of money but that amount is said to have set off a federal investigation?!?!?!

Governer Please...!

I thought $9999 was the magic number. Once you broke the $10,000 they were all in your ass (sorry Elliot) over it. he must have been moving more money around in anticipation of a busy summer.

Dale's picture

Dick Abramoff.

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Mike @ 82:

Way to disgrace yourself, Elliot, and to heap shame upon your family. 5 grand for sex? Did she rebuild the transmission on his friggin Chrysler at the same time? Dude, that's like 200 BJs in St. Louis. Is stuff REALLY that much more expensive on the East Coast? You get what you give, Elliot, you get what you give. Thanks for nothing.

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Not a man of the people you would say! Perhaps he should have had an R behind his name.

yellow dog's picture

James Ratliff @ 3:

The AMerican people have become so desensitised since the republicans decided to murder a million Iraqi's that who cares about a little sex? Isn't murder more inportant?

No - consider that the country (the RNC aided and abetted by the MSM) wasted four years and millions upon millions of dollars trying to get Bill Clinton, but dismissed any calls for impeaching the murderers now in the WH as divisive partisan politics.

Liberal media my ass.

Mike's picture

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

You mean he's not? We Liberals take women's issues more seriously than the republicist party seems to. This guy is toast. This guy is a laughingstock. This guy needs a course in basic economics.

Dhalgren's picture

The NY State Republicans have announced that they will open impeachment hearings if Spitzer does not resign by Thursday morning.

So.....it begins.

Democrats! You will remember these days! Many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our dignity, they may steal our elections, but they'll never take...........!

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ted @ 86:

You're kidding? ...he should probably resign. What a disappointment...

Yeah, it is disappointing at a level. But try to remember the reason many right-wing sloths and toadies are celebrating this, who didn't celebrate but ignored Repugnant illegal sex acts (many involving children: see list above) simply because Spitzer went after white-collar crime, which led to Republicunts getting caught for real crimes (besides the sex-crimes they're famous for).

I say Spitzer should fight this, and fight it hard, see? And from now on if he wants sex, he should dress his wife up in little outfits and let her have it, instead. (That's what I do).

moniker's picture

Eliot Spitzer (R)

Dr. Acula's picture

Meanwhile...
8 more troops killed in Iraq yesterday.
Bolten, Miers, Rice STILL in contempt of Congress.
Busholini says torture is good.
Gas is $109/barrel.
Stock market is in full retreat.
Et fucking cetera!

greg white's picture

Silly politician. He should have gone to a prostitute in Nevada, where it is LEGAL. (It's also taxed and regulated).

Mike's picture

Dhalgren @ 93:

The NY State Republicans have announced that they will open impeachment hearings if Spitzer does not resign by Thursday morning.

So.....it begins.
blockquote>

and he friggin well deserves it. Democrat or republicist, have some common sense. Larry Craig, David Vitter, Elliot, and the rest: the guilty dog howls the loudest. I can still hear Larry Craig with his "Bill Clinton was a nasty naughty boy" crap. The world is watching, now.

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Mike @ 97:

Dhalgren @ 93:

The NY State Republicans have announced that they will open impeachment hearings if Spitzer does not resign by Thursday morning.

So.....it begins.
blockquote>

and he friggin well deserves it. Democrat or republicist, have some common sense. Larry Craig, David Vitter, Elliot, and the rest: the guilty dog howls the loudest. I can still hear Larry Craig with his "Bill Clinton was a nasty naughty boy" crap. The world is watching, now.

oops, I did not intentionall yput words into your mouth, Dhalgren, sorry. I Bushed.

Mike's picture

Quitting while I'm behind! Damn!

crazytown's picture

I've got it:

Before running for any public office candidates must provide proof they have been Spayed or Neutered.
In exchange, Limbaugh Rove Hannity and the rest have their lips sewn shut.

Blue Lensman's picture

Can anyone tell me or provide a link regarding the status of the larger investigation? I understood that the feds were actually investigating organized crime, specifically money laundering. Did they compromise that investigation when they went public with the Spitzer thing or had they already come up empty?

Ruthless People's picture

moniker @ 94:

Eliot Spitzer (R)

Will Faux News will make a "mistake" by putting an "R" next to Spitzer's name?

crazytown's picture

Oh great. the repukes are heading straight into Spitzer's shorts nostrils flared.
Now they're going to waste taxpayer time and money over frivilous shit like this AGAIN.

ANYTHING but the business of the state of New YOrk.

Hey there all you trolls, that's why the next election will be a MASS ABORTION of republicans.

Leslie Hussein's picture

#95 Dr. Acula: Meanwhile…
8 more troops killed in Iraq yesterday.
Bolten, Miers, Rice STILL in contempt of Congress.
Busholini says torture is good.
Gas is $109/barrel.
Stock market is in full retreat.
Et fucking cetera!

Exactly! Probably another political hit on a Democrat just in time for elections. And everyone is more focused with waxing moral on Spitzer's sex life than with ongoing Bushie crimes.

Dr. Acula's picture

Hey Leslie. What's the local NYC coverage of this like?

flex's picture

The big difference is Spitzer didn't sit on the (ever so loving) Christian Senate "Stone the Whores to Death" Committee like his sleaze bag, hypocritical Republican counterparts.

Dr. Acula's picture

Quick Vote
Should New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer resign?
Yes 77% 167869
No 23% 50057
Total Votes: 217926

courtesy cnn.con (sic)

Leslie Hussein's picture

Dr. Acula,
It's all over the front page of the NYT with headlines saying, "Spitzer expected to resign." Daily News' front page is saying he must go, etc. Some mention that Clinton could lose Spitzer's superdelegate vote, and she cleaned her website of his name. Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue.

crazytown's picture

Dr. Acula @ 107:

Quick Vote
Should New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer resign?
Yes 77% 167869
No 23% 50057
Total Votes: 217926

courtesy cnn.con (sic)

Quick Vote
Should CNN be shut down until it reports REAL polls and hires REAL journalists?
Yes 77% 167869
No 23% 50057
Total Votes: 217926

crazytown's picture

"Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue."

EXACTLY.

Dr. Acula's picture

crazytown @ 110:

"Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue."

EXACTLY.

Well, of course. Spitzer had straight sex and didn't wear a diaper!

ysbaddaden's picture

ohio progressive @ 61:

mudshark hussein @ 59:

Hooks @ 52:

mudshark hussein @ 51:
If anything, a wire tap is more detrimental to one's case. Now, if it was done illegally, the prosecution will not have a leg to stand on. But since Bush made wire taps more attainable, I don't think it looks good for Mr. Spitzer

He might be able to save himself if he can prove an illegal wiretap.He can turn this around,but still,how frickin stupid is this guy?During this election ,he goes and does this.

but on the flip side,if he can show some smarts.He can turn this around.

Turn this around?

there's no legal issue here....

it's the way he treated his wife and teenage daughters.

and there's no way to turn that around....

stay and fight, but only to embarrass Pelosi and the cowardly nuts in DC...

VOTE DONALD DUCK in november

Doesn't Donald hand around a lot guys wearing no pants?

He must be a republican.

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Dr. Acula @ 111:

crazytown @ 110:

"Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue."

EXACTLY.

Well, of course. Spitzer had straight sex and didn't wear a diaper!

How about a hood ornament?

Funny if this news was the outcome (so to speak) of a financial investigation, that no financial inproprieties have been announced.

It's like looking into a failed S&L and getting only a sex "scandal."

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ysbaddaden @ 112:

ohio progressive @ 61:

Turn this around?

there's no legal issue here....

it's the way he treated his wife and teenage daughters.

and there's no way to turn that around....

stay and fight, but only to embarrass Pelosi and the cowardly nuts in DC...

VOTE DONALD DUCK in november

Doesn't Donald hand around a lot guys wearing no pants?

He must be a republican.

um-3 little guys he claims as 'nephews.' mmm hmmmm. Donald's got 'Republican' written ALL over his albino arse...

ysbaddaden's picture

61 ohio progressive

"...stay and fight, but only to embarrass Pelosi and the cowardly nuts in DC…"

I think the only thing they're not accusing Spitzer of is having cowardly nuts.

ysbaddaden's picture

Donald hanGs around, not hand around, otherwise it's a group monkey spanking.

konchster's picture

Damn this is monumental from the repugs stand point. After all this guy was having sex with gorgeous women. How perverted does it have to be. It wasn't even normal like in a restroom stall Isn't that Craig guy still in the senate???

crazytown's picture

Mike @ 92:

Craig @ 12:

I have to admit I'm having a bit of a problem with the double standard here. Everyone on this site was all over Vitter when he was found doing the same thing. Shouldn't both be getting the same treatment?

You mean he's not? We Liberals take women's issues more seriously than the republicist party seems to. This guy is toast. This guy is a laughingstock. This guy needs a course in basic economics.

Teaching a rethug troll to reason is like teaching a grandmother to suck an egg.

crazytown's picture

Oh yeah. Rethugs respect their wives and families which is why the list of rethugs that like to fuck CHILDREN is about a mile long. Oooo!....hurt me hurt me in the name of the Lord!

crazytown's picture

ysbaddaden @ 114:

Dr. Acula @ 111:

crazytown @ 110:

"Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue."

EXACTLY.

Well, of course. Spitzer had straight sex and didn't wear a diaper!

How about a hood ornament?

Funny if this news was the outcome (so to speak) of a financial investigation, that no financial inproprieties have been announced.

It's like looking into a failed S&L and getting only a sex "scandal."

65 Billion Dollar S&L American Shafting is a MUCH more impressive penis than Spitzer's bank transfer. But try and tell that to a rethug...they can't stop thinking about Spitzer's tallywhacker.

Rusty Baines Shackleford's picture

As a professional musician John Hall has gotten paychecks from concert promoters and record industry moguls, so clearly he has no problem taking "sleazy money."

*ba-dump*

anon's picture

Them Repugs sure love them a sex scandal. Whoowee!

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Mike @ 88:

--Once you broke the $10,000 they were all in your ass (sorry Elliot) over it.

LOL...You got to the bottom of it.

Of course they will try and hit the Democrats. Democrats live under a different set of rules and for that reason he should just go. http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/10/if-only-spitzer-was-french/

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crazytown @ 121:

ysbaddaden @ 114:

Dr. Acula @ 111:

crazytown @ 110:

Well, of course. Spitzer had straight sex and didn't wear a diaper!

How about a hood ornament?

Funny if this news was the outcome (so to speak) of a financial investigation, that no financial inproprieties have been announced.

It's like looking into a failed S&L and getting only a sex "scandal."

65 Billion Dollar S&L American Shafting is a MUCH more impressive penis than Spitzer's bank transfer. But try and tell that to a rethug...they can't stop thinking about Spitzer's tallywhacker.

Which S&L scandal you talking about? Bush I, Franklin Bank/Boystown scandal? The sex in that was almost totally quashed.

teknikAL's picture

crazytown @ 111:

"Spitzer has made the election, FISA and the war almost a side issue."

EXACTLY.

No, the media has. If it were any Republican, and I think I don't need to list them, it would be on page 14 A or a late night news mention.

teknikAL's picture

Dr. Acula @ 106:

Hey Leslie. What's the local NYC coverage of this like?

Where I'm at, no real talk on the street about it though it's on front pages. I'm neither in Albany or NYC.

teknikAL's picture

teknikAL @ 128:

Dr. Acula @ 106:

Hey Leslie. What's the local NYC coverage of this like?

Where I'm at, no real talk on the street about it though it's on front pages. I'm neither in Albany or NYC.

Let me modify that with the Spitzer-Bruno feud one-upsmanship talk.

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yellow dog @ 91:

James Ratliff @ 3:

The AMerican people have become so desensitised since the republicans decided to murder a million Iraqi's that who cares about a little sex? Isn't murder more inportant?

No - consider that the country (the RNC aided and abetted by the MSM) wasted four years and millions upon millions of dollars trying to get Bill Clinton, but dismissed any calls for impeaching the murderers now in the WH as divisive partisan politics.

Liberal media my ass.

Yes I agree there is nothing liberal about the corporate owned MSM. They do deserve to lose but as long as people watch and buy the things they advertize they will be there, spreading whatever they believe benefits them. They cannot be trusted!

Bob Kincaid's picture

The only thing shocking to the Repiglickins was that Spitzer got caught having sex . . . with ADULTS.

Emma Goldman's picture

Bathroom Stall Craig and Vitter the Shitter!!!!!!

Emma Goldman's picture

Bob Kincaid @ 131:

The only thing shocking to the Repiglickins was that Spitzer got caught having sex . . . with ADULTS.

And that he wasn't wearing a diaper or in a bathroom stall.

Anonymous's picture

If GOP wants to go after Spitzer for money laundering, they can't explain why they're not going after Bush for war crimes, FISA violations, and POW abuse.

ferrofluid's picture

teknikAL @ 126:

crazytown @ 121:

ysbaddaden @ 114:

Dr. Acula @ 111:

How about a hood ornament?

Funny if this news was the outcome (so to speak) of a financial investigation, that no financial inproprieties have been announced.

It's like looking into a failed S&L and getting only a sex "scandal."

65 Billion Dollar S&L American Shafting is a MUCH more impressive penis than Spitzer's bank transfer. But try and tell that to a rethug...they can't stop thinking about Spitzer's tallywhacker.

Which S&L scandal you talking about? Bush I, Franklin Bank/Boystown scandal? The sex in that was almost totally quashed.

Boystown still echoed down the ages across multiple Republican aministrations.
They sure do like their little boys do the Republicans, reminds me of an old joke.
'whats the difference between Greyhounds and Republicans? Greyhounds wait until the Hares appear...'

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