Retirement can apparently be liberating

As a rule, Rep. Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican, has generally been considered a “team player” in his party. He hasn’t always been quite as conservative as some of his rank-and-file colleagues, but on the big issues, Davis has always stood toe to toe with his Republican caucus. It’s why he was rewarded a few cycles ago with the chairmanship of the NRCC.

Davis was preparing a Senate run, right up until he realized he’d lose to former Gov. Mark Warner (D), and he’s now preparing to leave elected office altogether. Apparently, it’s had a liberating effect.

A few days ago, Davis acknowledged, “The House Republican brand is so bad right now that if it were a dog food, they’d take it off the shelf.”

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

“It’s no mystery,” said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). “You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He’s just killed the Republican brand.”

I mention this, not only because it’s an interesting quote, but because I wonder how many Republicans who aren’t retiring from Congress feel the exact same way.

My hunch is, quite a few.

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Nice words but... only thing that matters in the congress is how you vote. Easy to sound rational when it doesn't matter.

In his State of the Union address, President George W Bush made reviving the US economy the centrepiece of his last year in office. But can he do enough to avoid blame for the slowdown?

When the economy is in trouble, it rarely bodes well for the party in power.

Republican President Herbert Hoover was blamed for the 1929 Great Depression, leading to a landslide victory for Franklin D Roosevelt and ushering in an era of Democratic reform that lasted for a generation.

The most popular Republican president of recent times, Ronald Reagan, was elected in 1980 over his Democratic incumbent, Jimmy Carter, after inflation soared to a record high during the oil crisis.

Economic woes also played an important role in Bill Clinton's win in 1992 over Mr Bush's father, George H Bush, who lost after one term in office.

"It's the economy, stupid"

Amongst other things.

The Republican Party went down the shitter, unfortunately it took the country with it.

The next Democratic President has a task in front of him/her nothing short of the Reconstruction.

An Average Joe @ 3:

The Republican Party went down the shitter, unfortunately it took the country with it.

The next Democratic President has a task in front of him/her nothing short of the Reconstruction.

That's the correct term you used. The next president should do like Roosevelt did, start projects at home to fix America's road and bridges, our ports and Railroads. Our infrastructure is falling apart and Americans can use the work.

I find these statements highly ironic. The first thing that came to mind was Dan Aykroyd on SNL pitching the "Bag of Glass." Bush killed a brand that sucked anyway, and one of their key points was dismantling protections relating to everything, including consumer product safety. Wouldn't it be nice if we could go ahead and say "R.I.P." to the "every man for himself, as long as I get a head start" crowd?

I personally think it's interesting and disturbing that Republicans think of themselves as a "brand". Maybe they suck so bad at governing because their first priority is marketing.

Eric Hussein Almighty @ 5:

I find these statements highly ironic. The first thing that came to mind was Dan Aykroyd on SNL pitching the "Bag of Glass." Bush killed a brand that sucked anyway, and one of their key points was dismantling protections relating to everything, including consumer product safety. Wouldn't it be nice if we could go ahead and say "R.I.P." to the "every man for himself, as long as I get a head start" crowd?

Amen to that ... You must be on the East coast of the US, seems every one else is still abed.

Back in 2000, my local newspaper here on Long Island, Newsday, did an editorial in which it announced its support for Al Gore over George Bush and its reasons for doing so. In commenting on the prospect of Bush being president, I distinctly remember the editorial reading along the lines of "While a Bush presidency would not be a disaster..."

Well, here we are 8 years later, with a war in Iraq draining our military and our budget, oil hitting $111 a barrel, the value of the dollar sinking, a budget surplus turned into budget deficits for the foreseeable future, and the list goes on an on. That line by Newsday really takes on a special irony.

Paul K @ 6:

I personally think it's interesting and disturbing that Republicans think of themselves as a "brand". Maybe they suck so bad at governing because their first priority is marketing.

must be a Texan thing. I'd like to brand them all with a big X on their butts with a hot iron..

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 4:

The next Democratic President has a task in front of him/her nothing short of the Reconstruction.

That's the correct term you used. The next president should do like Roosevelt did, start projects at home to fix America's road and bridges, our ports and Railroads. Our infrastructure is falling apart and Americans can use the work.

That's a great point, except I wonder just how we would pay for it? I agree that our infrastructure is crap and that a well-founded and thought-out national project(s) just might do a lot - but we have such a huge debt already. Right? (I'm asking a question rather then making a comment here.)

If they really know it's so bad, then why keep voting the same old way for the same old crap? And Didn't Roosevelt need some war or other to help us out of the Great Depression? I'm a little foggy on the history......

Theres your straight shooting gooper. I agree with upthread sentiments that this kind of talk is meaningless when the voting is straightlline with bush. If the GOP congress stood up to the swine a few times both the country and their chances would be greatly improved.

Happy St. Paddys Day............Erin go Bragh!!!

Republicans are to blame for the economic crisis,

...pass it on!

Tommykey @ 8:

Back in 2000, my local newspaper here on Long Island, Newsday, did an editorial in which it announced its support for Al Gore over George Bush and its reasons for doing so. In commenting on the prospect of Bush being president, I distinctly remember the editorial reading along the lines of "While a Bush presidency would not be a disaster..."

Well, here we are 8 years later, with a war in Iraq draining our military and our budget, oil hitting $111 a barrel, the value of the dollar sinking, a budget surplus turned into budget deficits for the foreseeable future, and the list goes on an on. That line by Newsday really takes on a special irony.

The newspapers don't carry the real news. I had to get this out of BBC, don't think it ever hit the US papers. Correct me if I'm wrong http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297093.stm there is also a vid of it.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 4:

The next Democratic President has a task in front of him/her nothing short of the Reconstruction.

That's the correct term you used. The next president should do like Roosevelt did, start projects at home to fix America's road and bridges, our ports and Railroads. Our infrastructure is falling apart and Americans can use the work.

agreed.

"...oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular."

Then there is torture, domestic spying, no Habeas Corpous, and a foreclosure frenzy.

But, hey. It's hip to be square!

I do enjoy the humor of knowing that they're basically forced to prop up an idiot loathed more than the supposed enemy he claims to fight. Must be fun trying to convince voters to see the reslug side when you're bathed in eau du shrub. Sniff sniff. Smells like shit, desperation and failure.

I'm not exactly an idealist but is anyone else disgusted by the fact that he considers his political party a 'brand name'?

We're not talking coke vs pepsi here.... people's livelihoods and very lives are at stake and this assholes worried that his brand of asshole is being tarnished.

Perhaps that's part of the problem WITH your brand. Dickhead.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 17:

"...oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular."

Then there is torture, domestic spying, no Habeas Corpous, and a foreclosure frenzy.

But, hey. It's hip to be square!

Hey, look at the bright side ... the market just opened and it's already down 200 points. good opportunity for the rich to get richer.

I wonder if Bush sees this and if so i wonder if he gives a shit.

seele @ 14:

Republicans are to blame for the economic crisis,

...pass it on!

And why do I get the feeling I'll be hearing all about how it's all somehow Clinton's fault in the next few days? The only thing reslugs are good at... spreading the blame.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 21:

I wonder if Bush sees this and if so i wonder if he gives a shit.

I sent that link to everyone on my email list. keep posting that on here, we need to keep this in the open.

The economy we have right now, is a Republican economy in full fruition. Cutting taxes to the rich creating huge national debt, no oversight or regulation, energy policy devised by oil companies in cahoots with oil men and women in the White House and of course, to top it all off an invasion of Iraq to bring "democracy" to the Middle East. No one remembers those drone planes, WMD, or Al Qaeda links anymore do they? We won't mention the cost in blood (million Iraqis) and treasure either. McCain wants the U.S. to stay until we "win". This is country is right now feeling the effects of Republican policy and don't it feel good? And you and me are supposed to feel proud and patriotic for this s#$! they created and we are supposed to just go along with it and keep our mouths shut while these right wing radicals destroy our country?

“It’s no mystery,” said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). “You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He’s just killed the Republican brand.”

Correction, with the help of completely compliant Republicans, coupled with Republican corruption, the brand was killed. Bush didn't do it alone.

FYI -- Davis is understandably irked that the Virginia state GOP opted to fall behind former Gov. Gilmore for the Senate race through a party convention rather than a primary.

There's no denying that the GOP brand is in the tank and John McCain's statements to date represent just a third term of Bush.

Bush is going to speak today on the economy. That should be interesting to see how he tries to spin the shit that has hit the fan on Wall Street this morning. Hell yes, the republicans know they have caused all our problems but the ones who have personally gained from it just don't give a damn.

Dow Jones
11951.1 down -194.65

We are back to year 2000 levels. During the 8 years of Clinton's presidency, the DOW went up 400%. If Bush had the same results, the DOW would be at 44,000 right now.

pissed off patricia @ 27:

Bush is going to speak today on the economy. That should be interesting to see how he tries to spin the shit that has hit the fan on Wall Street this morning. Hell yes, the republicans know they have caused all our problems but the ones who have personally gained from it just don't give a damn.

Where will he speak POP, I'll see if I can find it streaming on the net.

pissed off patricia @ 27:

Bush is going to speak today on the economy. That should be interesting to see how he tries to spin the shit that has hit the fan on Wall Street this morning. Hell yes, the republicans know they have caused all our problems but the ones who have personally gained from it just don't give a damn.

Bush should just STFU and let real leaders do the talking.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 29:

pissed off patricia @ 27:

Bush is going to speak today on the economy. That should be interesting to see how he tries to spin the shit that has hit the fan on Wall Street this morning. Hell yes, the republicans know they have caused all our problems but the ones who have personally gained from it just don't give a damn.

Where will he speak POP, I'll see if I can find it streaming on the net.

Prolly from the 'western whitehouse' bush should just stick to clearing brush and stfu.

Not sure I agree with this. It makes sense, of course.

But understand that Conservatives own talk radio and manipulate so very well the activities of Non-FOX cable news and rags like the Donny Graham- and Fred Hiatt-Washington Post.

Besides, while it would be nice to see non-Conservatives take the White House and the Hill if only to end the list of Fat Tony Scalias and Clarence "The Knife" Thomas types with the Supremes, the Democrats will have terrible Conservative messes to clean up in Iraq, oil, the sub-primes, food costs, energy, and the economy as a whole.

Osama needed two airplanes and about six hours.

Leader Cheney and his puppet, Dubya, gained eight years to terrorize the nation. We'll be in a National War on Their Terror for decades.

seele @ 31:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 29:

pissed off patricia @ 27:

Bush is going to speak today on the economy. That should be interesting to see how he tries to spin the shit that has hit the fan on Wall Street this morning. Hell yes, the republicans know they have caused all our problems but the ones who have personally gained from it just don't give a damn.

Where will he speak POP, I'll see if I can find it streaming on the net.

Prolly from the 'western whitehouse' bush should just stick to clearing brush and stfu.

I meant what network. I don't get things here except for CNN-International and BBC the rest I have to get on the net.

Maybe this will wake up the repug electorate.
Nawwwwwwwwwwww.
this could go two ways,they can wake up and realize they've been wrong(as some probably will) or,they'll keep burying their heads deeper in the sand.
The bigger issue(to me anyway) is on our side of the aisle.
Resentment.
How many of us on the left will get over their antics,and forgive and forget.
Maybe someday I'll be able to do it,but not now or in the near future.
I for one resent them.

Top O' the mornin to ye! Erin go Bragh, lads and lassies!
I'm ready to get my Irish on, how 'bout y'all? By 6pm this evening, I will have my Irish handcuffs on ( beer in one hand and whiskey in the other!)

Ok enough BS'ing....the republican party is damaged...but I don't think they're dead yet...clinging to life, sure...but not quite dead...and like a certain zombie from 2000 years ago, who they supposedly worship...they'll probably rise from the dead as well.

Maybe like in zombie movies, all they need is a crushing blow to the head (metaphorically speaking) to put the party down for good.

And YES, I did watch a zombie movie last night...so what?!

My guess is that those Republicans that are staying have convinced themselves that George W Bush wasn't a real/true Republican/conservative anyways.

As if having control of all three branches of government (four, if you count Dick Cheney) for nearly six years wasn't enough time to put together any real conservative economic plans and it must be because something liberal got in the way for the last six years to be such an utter failure.

I'm not sure which channels will carry his bs. Just heard about it on one of the cable channels this morning. I know it wasn't on Fox because they are spending the morning concentrating on the who-the-hell-cares stories like Obama and Rev Wright.

mudshark @ 34:

Maybe this will wake up the repug electorate.
Nawwwwwwwwwwww.
this could go two ways,they can wake up and realize they've been wrong(as some probably will) or,they'll keep burying their heads deeper in the sand.
The bigger issue(to me anyway) is on our side of the aisle.
Resentment.
How many of us on the left will get over their antics,and forgive and forget.
Maybe someday I'll be able to do it,but not now or in the near future.
I for one resent them.

If we get in, I can just imagine the huge outcry they will scream when all the rules they have put in place come back to haunt them They will claim we're SPYING on THEM, that the signing statements are illegal etc.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 35:

Top O' the mornin to ye! Erin go Bragh, lads and lassies!
I'm ready to get my Irish on, how 'bout y'all? By 6pm this evening, I will have my Irish handcuffs on ( beer in one hand and whiskey in the other!)

Ok enough BS'ing....the republican party is damaged...but I don't think they're dead yet...clinging to life, sure...but not quite dead...and like a certain zombie from 2000 years ago, who they supposedly worship...they'll probably rise from the dead as well.

Maybe like in zombie movies, all they need is a crushing blow to the head (metaphorically speaking) to put the party down for good.

And YES, I did watch a zombie movie last night...so what?!

They were pronounced dead after Nixon. That worked out real good.

pissed off patricia @ 37:

I'm not sure which channels will carry his bs. Just heard about it on one of the cable channels this morning. I know it wasn't on Fox because they are spending the morning concentrating on the who-the-hell-cares stories like Obama and Rev Wright.

GAH! Even some of my liberal leaning friends are buyin into that shit...they even brought the lapel pin and the national anthem thing. I told them it was all GOP propanganda...but they're old and stubborn...and they KNEW they were right and I was wrong, simply for the age difference...

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 40:

pissed off patricia @ 37:

I'm not sure which channels will carry his bs. Just heard about it on one of the cable channels this morning. I know it wasn't on Fox because they are spending the morning concentrating on the who-the-hell-cares stories like Obama and Rev Wright.

GAH! Even some of my liberal leaning friends are buyin into that shit...they even brought the lapel pin and the national anthem thing. I told them it was all GOP propanganda...but they're old and stubborn...and they KNEW they were right and I was wrong, simply for the age difference...

Hey, i am old and stubborn. Is there a problem?

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 39:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 35:

Top O' the mornin to ye! Erin go Bragh, lads and lassies!
I'm ready to get my Irish on, how 'bout y'all? By 6pm this evening, I will have my Irish handcuffs on ( beer in one hand and whiskey in the other!)

Ok enough BS'ing....the republican party is damaged...but I don't think they're dead yet...clinging to life, sure...but not quite dead...and like a certain zombie from 2000 years ago, who they supposedly worship...they'll probably rise from the dead as well.

Maybe like in zombie movies, all they need is a crushing blow to the head (metaphorically speaking) to put the party down for good.

And YES, I did watch a zombie movie last night...so what?!

They were pronounced dead after Nixon. That worked out real good.

Then there was Reagan...a walking, talking zombie, if ever I did see one.

:)

:)

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 38:

mudshark @ 34:

Maybe this will wake up the repug electorate.
Nawwwwwwwwwwww.
this could go two ways,they can wake up and realize they've been wrong(as some probably will) or,they'll keep burying their heads deeper in the sand.
The bigger issue(to me anyway) is on our side of the aisle.
Resentment.
How many of us on the left will get over their antics,and forgive and forget.
Maybe someday I'll be able to do it,but not now or in the near future.
I for one resent them.

If we get in, I can just imagine the huge outcry they will scream when all the rules they have put in place come back to haunt them They will claim we're SPYING on THEM, that the signing statements are illegal etc.

yep you betcha.and of course it'll be Clinton's fault.Or Obama's fault,or the mailman's fault,or the guy down at the 7/11's fault.

I think Reagen was more of a minarette.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 45:

I think Reagen was more of a minarette.

marionette?

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 41:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 40:

pissed off patricia @ 37:

I'm not sure which channels will carry his bs. Just heard about it on one of the cable channels this morning. I know it wasn't on Fox because they are spending the morning concentrating on the who-the-hell-cares stories like Obama and Rev Wright.

GAH! Even some of my liberal leaning friends are buyin into that shit...they even brought the lapel pin and the national anthem thing. I told them it was all GOP propanganda...but they're old and stubborn...and they KNEW they were right and I was wrong, simply for the age difference...

Hey, i am old and stubborn. Is there a problem?

Ooops...hehe...Well these guys are soooo old, their blood is solid. 10,000 years older than sand...
Besides...you seem to be quite a bit less stubborn than these two I'm talking about.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 46:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 45:

I think Reagen was more of a minarette.

marionette?

Yes, that too. At 6:14 am if i can find the first three letters i'm doing pretty good.

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Need more coffee...

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 48:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 46:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 45:

I think Reagen was more of a minarette.

marionette?

Yes, that too. At 6:14 am if i can find the first three letters i'm doing pretty good.

I keep forgetting it's morning there. But him as a tall tower just irks me.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 50:

Need more coffee...

Ditto!

Davis's comment can be illustrated like so:

Bush -> Republican Pooch (screwed)

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 49:

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Imagine how fucked up things would be if the Dems didn't get what they did.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 49:

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Polls are run by newsgroups ... newsgroups owned by republicans etc etc.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 55:

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 49:

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Polls are run by newsgroups ... newsgroups owned by republicans etc etc.

I believe in polls about as much as I believe in Santy Clause...

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 55:

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 49:

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Polls are run by newsgroups ... newsgroups owned by republicans etc etc.

Yes, but they usually are fairly close. Voters aren't that bright apparently. Kind of wondering how much more a government could screw up, before the yawners wake up.

This is an excellent time to point out what would be going on with Social Security if Bush had had his way and put it in the stock market.

Tweakerbell @ 53:

Davis's comment can be illustrated like so:

Bush -> Republican Pooch (screwed)

HA! LMAO!! Yes...yes it sure can!

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Hey, Tom Delay, how's that permanent republic party majority workin' out for ya? Maybe the public wised up to the whole "greed in the name of the Lord" thing. It's too bad you scumbags decided to scuttle the place on your way out.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 58:

This is an excellent time to point out what would be going on with Social Security if Bush had had his way and put it in the stock market.

THAT gave me a shiver.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 58:

This is an excellent time to point out what would be going on with Social Security if Bush had had his way and put it in the stock market.

I think the Dems will be missing out if they don't jump on THAT fact right now while the iron is hot. Tha's a great point and should be noted.

Mike @ 61:

Hey, Tom Delay, how's that permanent republic party majority workin' out for ya? Maybe the public wised up to the whole "greed in the name of the Lord" thing. It's too bad you scumbags decided to scuttle the place on your way out.

The accused the Clintons of stealing the dinnerware, while they just emptied the bank.

Never underestimate the power of Diebold/Premier Election Systems.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 58:

This is an excellent time to point out what would be going on with Social Security if Bush had had his way and put it in the stock market.

Exactly! McCain has said that he would continue to push for that same plan that bush has.

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Pucker up then Patty!

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 67:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Pucker up then Patty!

smooch!

it is great to see a repube with a moment of self actualization, but how has he voted on recent key issues. their brand in broken because the american people reject their policies and ideals, but they still stop progress and fall in line when the vote time comes.

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

I only know of two Patricias.....both have red hair and fiery tempers LOL......Happy St Patty's Day!!

pissed off patricia @ 68:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 67:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Pucker up then Patty!

smooch!

Aw shucks!

The Republicans have preached hatred of government my entire life and then some. I'm old. That's all I have ever heard from them...Government is the problem...let the free markets rule....no regulations....kill the beast.

So it stands to reason that once they finally had all the power of government, they would not have a clue on how to run one. They really are a rather stupid bunch.

Maybe Saint Paddy can come back and drive the snakes out of Washington.

Or we could just charter busses.

Borg Warner @ 72:

The Republicans have preached hatred of government my entire life and then some. I'm old. That's all I have ever heard from them...Government is the problem...let the free markets rule....no regulations....kill the beast.

So it stands to reason that once they finally had all the power of government, they would not have a clue on how to run one. They really are a rather stupid bunch.

I have been saying that for years--nice to know I am so wise.

Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP
Seek to prolong bitter battle

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_cl...

So, apparently, there really are not as many Clinton supporters as one would believe by reading the internet. Fascinating.

In addition, I think a segment of republic party "thinkers" believe government just steals from the people, so when they get their turn at bat...well, you know the rest.

Ranking Member Davis has had the advantage of working with Conyers for a long time on that committee. Some of the decency rubbed off, apparently.

The remaining R? Lobotomies, most of them.

When Darrell Issa drools at his desk with a vacant look in his eyes, the opera is over.

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Where?

I feel the same way taking off my thong.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 76:

Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP
Seek to prolong bitter battle

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_cl...

So, apparently, there really are not as many Clinton supporters as one would believe by reading the internet. Fascinating.

Excuse me? Isn't this the internet? I was never under the impression of anything other than what you just said.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 76:

Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP
Seek to prolong bitter battle

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_cl...

So, apparently, there really are not as many Clinton supporters as one would believe by reading the internet. Fascinating.

how many dems did the same thing?

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

Erin gu braighless!

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 58:

This is an excellent time to point out what would be going on with Social Security if Bush had had his way and put it in the stock market.

That is an excellent point and well timed. As we have seen from the past few weeks or even months, all of that Social Security money that would have bought into stocks would be lost today with all of the current banking problems. Even if the only choices for those accounts were to put that money into bonds the overall return on those bonds would not even come close to matching the current rate of inflation so we would still lose. That whole private accounts idea really wasn't to realistic to begin with in my opinion. All they would have done is allowed the Wall Street players to scalp the Social Security, and/or allowed the Government to issue more bonds so that they can print more money.

mudshark @ 79:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Where?

isn't it a holliday there?

So bush is going to give us his great words of wisdom on the economy. I can just hear him now, "don't worry, be happy, go shopping."

When bush was trying to push social security into the markets I kept thinking about the last time the market crashed, 87 or 89, not sure which. I wondered why no one was talking about what would happen to everyone's money if that happened again. Sadly, it seems to always happen again and usually it's because someone or someones got greedy.

mudshark @ 79:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Where?

Here we get the stock market report on CNBC

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 85:

mudshark @ 79:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Where?

isn't it a holliday there?

LOL :)

No, its a drinking day.

Didn't Rasputin say yesterday that the fed was going to cut the rate another point.

St Patrick's day isn't a govt. holiday here. It's just a fun day usually. Not to sure how much fun it will be today. We're going out to dinner tonight and try to have a little reasonable fun.

mudshark @ 90:

Didn't Rasputin say yesterday that the fed was going to cut the rate another point.

If they drop it much lower lenders will have to pay people to borrow money.

pissed off patricia @ 88:

mudshark @ 79:

pissed off patricia @ 60:

Happy St. Patricia's Day! You really can kiss me because I really am Irish.

The market is about to open, fasten your seatbelt.

Where?

Here we get the stock market report on CNBC

I'm Irish too.
where would you like to get kissed?
in your car?
on the beach?
ummm,ok,nevermind.

sorry ,must be that weird Irish sense of humor.
have a great St Paddy's Day folks.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 92:

mudshark @ 90:

Didn't Rasputin say yesterday that the fed was going to cut the rate another point.

If they drop it much lower lenders will have to pay people to borrow money.

If they cut a full percentage point its "Katie, bar the doors" because the Fed is freaking out. Already we are hearing, just from this weekend that the world sees the Fed this way to:

Foreign investors veto Fed rescue

"As feared, foreign bond holders have begun to exercise a collective vote of no confidence in the devaluation policies of the US government. The Federal Reserve faces a potential veto of its rescue measures."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/17/ccview...

Argentina, Brazil to drop U.S. dollar in bilateral commercial transactions-China View

House seeks debt limit increase to $10.2 trillion-Raw Story

Even if they feel that way, they are letting the American people down. Why do they continue to VOTE with and OBSTRUCT any and all bills that are against the people of this country and vote for the bills that are in favor of big business and the corporations and the filthy rich.

DOW is dropping like a stone. down 160 since the opening bell.

pissed off patricia @ 91:

St Patrick's day isn't a govt. holiday here. It's just a fun day usually. Not to sure how much fun it will be today. We're going out to dinner tonight and try to have a little reasonable fun.

Yeah...not been in a celebratory mood for awhile now.

Borg Warner @ 72:

The Republicans have preached hatred of government my entire life and then some. I'm old. That's all I have ever heard from them...Government is the problem...let the free markets rule....no regulations....kill the beast.

So it stands to reason that once they finally had all the power of government, they would not have a clue on how to run one. They really are a rather stupid bunch.

Same bullshit from the Libertarians too (who I fear the idiots of America will turn to out of desperation if they ever realize how destructive the Republicans are and how useless the Democrats have become).

When are people going to learn that the size of the government has nothing to do with the amount of power held by the government? If the size of the government had anything to do with the amount of power it held, then why do the words monarchy and dictatorship keep coming up throughout history? If anything, the larger the governing body is, the less power any one government member would ever have at any time.

The reality is: It makes no difference how big or small a governing body is as long as they are directly answerable to the people. The less dependent any authority is on the will of the people it serves to guide, the more likely they will be deposed by revolution and by violence.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 89:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 85:

mudshark @ 79:

pissed off patricia @ 60:
Where?

isn't it a holliday there?

LOL :)

No, its a drinking day.

And everyone is Irish today too.

Just saw a video of bush this morning and he said everything is fine. He basically said, don't worry. Be happy.

Whew, I sure feel better..............NOT

diamondmc @ 86:

So bush is going to give us his great words of wisdom on the economy. I can just hear him now, "don't worry, be happy, go shopping."

Yeah like the go buy a car bs after 911...what a tool!

Just saw cheney talking on CNNI from Iraq, he looks like he's about to die and sounds that way also.

sigh

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 49:

Then he went a little further in describing his party’s troubles.

Don't buy this "the Dems are gonna route the Repubs" line anymore. Realclearpolitics has McCain beating both Obama and Hillary in a general election. IF all the experts (including party insiders) are so sure of this electorate "rage" and this huge loss for the Repubs, why have the polls been so close all along? It's never been more than 3% either way. I think it's just smoke and mirrors BS. Just like the Congress election that the Dems "slaughtered" only to not even have enough votes to do anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't realclearpolitics like the National Review, minus the faint air of respectability?
Once Sen. Clinton is finally done trying to drag the entire Democratic Party and much of the country into her self-immolation, the grown-ups can get down to the business of showing McCain for what he really is. The picture of him hugging bush ever so tenderly should be on every screen from now until November. Never let anybody forget that, no matter what distractions are offered, McCain would bring more of the same catastrofuck we've endured for over 7 years.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 100:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 89:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 85:

mudshark @ 79:
isn't it a holliday there?

LOL :)

No, its a drinking day.

And everyone is Irish today too.

For me it's genetic so on March 17th i get to choose another nationality. Today i might be Swahili.

Zenrage @ 99:

Borg Warner @ 72:

The Republicans have preached hatred of government my entire life and then some. I'm old. That's all I have ever heard from them...Government is the problem...let the free markets rule....no regulations....kill the beast.

So it stands to reason that once they finally had all the power of government, they would not have a clue on how to run one. They really are a rather stupid bunch.

Same bullshit from the Libertarians too (who I fear the idiots of America will turn to out of desperation if they ever realize how destructive the Republicans are and how useless the Democrats have become).

When are people going to learn that the size of the government has nothing to do with the amount of power held by the government? If the size of the government had anything to do with the amount of power it held, then why do the words monarchy and dictatorship keep coming up throughout history? If anything, the larger the governing body is, the less power any one government member would ever have at any time.

The reality is: It makes no difference how big or small a governing body is as long as they are directly answerable to the people. The less dependent any authority is on the will of the people it serves to guide, the more likely they will be deposed by revolution and by violence.

I can agree with you as far as power but an extremely large Government is also very costly to maintain. Just to point out how large this Government has become with all of Bush's add ons, here is a huge list of many of the departments that make up the Government. Its by no means a complete list as some departments are classified but it shows just how big it is (this may take some time to load):

Huge list of Government agencies

http://www.akdart.com/gov1.html

I will be an Irishman pretending to be Swahili pretending to be Irish.

There is a movie contract in there somewhere.

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xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 105:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 100:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 89:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 85:

LOL :)

No, its a drinking day.

And everyone is Irish today too.

For me it's genetic so on March 17th i get to choose another nationality. Today i might be Swahili.

I'm part Irish...and it's my Mawmas bday too! So it's always been a special day for my fam damily.
And Swahili, nice..but I would have gone Zulu...

Joe O. @ 106:

Zenrage @ 99:

Borg Warner @ 72:

The Republicans have preached hatred of government my entire life and then some. I'm old. That's all I have ever heard from them...Government is the problem...let the free markets rule....no regulations....kill the beast.

So it stands to reason that once they finally had all the power of government, they would not have a clue on how to run one. They really are a rather stupid bunch.

Same bullshit from the Libertarians too (who I fear the idiots of America will turn to out of desperation if they ever realize how destructive the Republicans are and how useless the Democrats have become).

When are people going to learn that the size of the government has nothing to do with the amount of power held by the government? If the size of the government had anything to do with the amount of power it held, then why do the words monarchy and dictatorship keep coming up throughout history? If anything, the larger the governing body is, the less power any one government member would ever have at any time.

The reality is: It makes no difference how big or small a governing body is as long as they are directly answerable to the people. The less dependent any authority is on the will of the people it serves to guide, the more likely they will be deposed by revolution and by violence.

I can agree with you as far as power but an extremely large Government is also very costly to maintain. Just to point out how large this Government has become with all of Bush's add ons, here is a huge list of many of the departments that make up the Government. Its by no means a complete list as some departments are classified but it shows just how big it is (this may take some time to load):

Huge list of Government agencies

http://www.akdart.com/gov1.html

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

Zenrage @ 110:

Joe O. @ 106:

Zenrage @ 99:

Borg Warner @ 72:

Same bullshit from the Libertarians too (who I fear the idiots of America will turn to out of desperation if they ever realize how destructive the Republicans are and how useless the Democrats have become).

When are people going to learn that the size of the government has nothing to do with the amount of power held by the government? If the size of the government had anything to do with the amount of power it held, then why do the words monarchy and dictatorship keep coming up throughout history? If anything, the larger the governing body is, the less power any one government member would ever have at any time.

The reality is: It makes no difference how big or small a governing body is as long as they are directly answerable to the people. The less dependent any authority is on the will of the people it serves to guide, the more likely they will be deposed by revolution and by violence.

I can agree with you as far as power but an extremely large Government is also very costly to maintain. Just to point out how large this Government has become with all of Bush's add ons, here is a huge list of many of the departments that make up the Government. Its by no means a complete list as some departments are classified but it shows just how big it is (this may take some time to load):

Huge list of Government agencies

http://www.akdart.com/gov1.html

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

I don't think they're anti-tax...just anti-BS govt spending. And these goopers...what a bunch of hypocrites.

Zenrage @ 110:

Joe O. @ 106:

Zenrage @ 99:

Borg Warner @ 72:

Same bullshit from the Libertarians too (who I fear the idiots of America will turn to out of desperation if they ever realize how destructive the Republicans are and how useless the Democrats have become).

When are people going to learn that the size of the government has nothing to do with the amount of power held by the government? If the size of the government had anything to do with the amount of power it held, then why do the words monarchy and dictatorship keep coming up throughout history? If anything, the larger the governing body is, the less power any one government member would ever have at any time.

The reality is: It makes no difference how big or small a governing body is as long as they are directly answerable to the people. The less dependent any authority is on the will of the people it serves to guide, the more likely they will be deposed by revolution and by violence.

I can agree with you as far as power but an extremely large Government is also very costly to maintain. Just to point out how large this Government has become with all of Bush's add ons, here is a huge list of many of the departments that make up the Government. Its by no means a complete list as some departments are classified but it shows just how big it is (this may take some time to load):

Huge list of Government agencies

http://www.akdart.com/gov1.html

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

Well, your asking for it. Taxation is coming and at punitive levels along with increased inflation possibly running in the double digits.

Dog food or dog shit?

113 jwf Says: Dog food or dog shit?

Same thing in the end, ain't it?

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 109:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 105:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 100:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 89:

And everyone is Irish today too.

For me it's genetic so on March 17th i get to choose another nationality. Today i might be Swahili.

I'm part Irish...and it's my Mawmas bday too! So it's always been a special day for my fam damily.
And Swahili, nice..but I would have gone Zulu...

Too bad I can't afford any Guiness

Part of boosh's economic miracle I suppose.

Joe O. @ 112:

Zenrage @ 110:

Joe O. @ 106:

Zenrage @ 99:

I can agree with you as far as power but an extremely large Government is also very costly to maintain. Just to point out how large this Government has become with all of Bush's add ons, here is a huge list of many of the departments that make up the Government. Its by no means a complete list as some departments are classified but it shows just how big it is (this may take some time to load):

Huge list of Government agencies

http://www.akdart.com/gov1.html

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

Well, your asking for it. Taxation is coming and at punitive levels along with increased inflation possibly running in the double digits.

Give me Universal Health Care, quality schools, free mass transit on a grand scale, bridges that don't collapse, an operating FEMA, FDA, OSHA and all the rest of the agencies we depend on for quality of life and you can have half of what i make.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 116:

Joe O. @ 112:

Zenrage @ 110:

Joe O. @ 106:

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

Well, your asking for it. Taxation is coming and at punitive levels along with increased inflation possibly running in the double digits.

Give me Universal Health Care, quality schools, free mass transit on a grand scale, bridges that don't collapse, an operating FEMA, FDA, OSHA and all the rest of the agencies we depend on for quality of life and you can have half of what i make.

I agree with you there. To offset those costs and to lower taxation I would suggest reducing some of the Government's outlays. Items such as the extremely costly wars and massive defense budgets come to mind.

Definitely, Joe.

Definitely.

Davis' analogy makes it sound like GOP-Chow just tastes bad, or is unpopular.

Truth is, it's being taken off the shelves because it got (or needs to be) recalled. Because it's got melamine Mehlman and other toxic stuff in it ...

I find it quite telling, that for a lot of these republicans, the tragedy is not the damage they have inflicted to the country... but the fact that such damage is making them "look bad."

Party way before country for these types I guess....

Of course if guys like Davis didn't go along with Bush and his conservative, radical idealogy they and we wouldn't be in this mess. They are all going to blame Bush and not the policies they all love so much...the "free" market, no regulation, cut taxes to rich, give corporations tax breaks and subsidies, send jobs off shore, "privatize" social security, your on your own darwinian economics etc, etc.

"Manos de Mierda"

That's Bush's new nickname, 'cause whatever he puts his hands on, turns to shit.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Democracy, The Middle East, Humanity, the GOP, Geneva Conventions, the economy, the military, ........................ (it never ends)

Joe O. @ 117:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 116:

Joe O. @ 112:

Zenrage @ 110:

Well, your asking for it. Taxation is coming and at punitive levels along with increased inflation possibly running in the double digits.

Give me Universal Health Care, quality schools, free mass transit on a grand scale, bridges that don't collapse, an operating FEMA, FDA, OSHA and all the rest of the agencies we depend on for quality of life and you can have half of what i make.

I agree with you there. To offset those costs and to lower taxation I would suggest reducing some of the Government's outlays. Items such as the extremely costly wars and massive defense budgets come to mind.

Funny thing is I don't remember getting a tax "break" do you? You know why? Most of it went to the rich. This whole they are going to tax you stuff is a simplistic scare tactic. The Democrats have proposed raising taxes on those making 250k or more a year, which as any sane person knows, leaves out over 90% of the country.

I mention this, not only because it’s an interesting quote, but because I wonder how many Republicans who aren’t retiring from Congress feel the exact same way.

My hunch is, quite a few.

I can name at least two: Jim Jeffords and Michael Bloomberg, both of whom tried to dissociate themselves with the (R) label by going "Independent".

ysbaddaden @ 114:

113 jwf Says: Dog food or dog shit?

Same thing in the end, ain't it?

By the time this crew is finished, it certainly will be hard to tell the difference.

Scott @ 121:

Of course if guys like Davis didn't go along with Bush and his conservative, radical idealogy they and we wouldn't be in this mess. They are all going to blame Bush and not the policies they all love so much...the "free" market, no regulation, cut taxes to rich, give corporations tax breaks and subsidies, send jobs off shore, "privatize" social security, your on your own darwinian economics etc, etc.

Agreed. What I fear is happening is that the Bush Administration is, slowly turning the United States into what Germany's General Erich Ludendorff called "total war". Meaning, most of the Government revenue, resources, and the like are given to a massive military machine first while the nation's cizitens suffer. In other words, the entire nation is geared towards that all or nothing, victory or defeat end. This is what the Soviet Union was and we all know how that ended.

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 116:

Joe O. @ 112:

Zenrage @ 110:

Joe O. @ 106:

Oh waaah! Too damn bad. It costs money to effectively run a government and people can not lead themselves. We have laws that govern the actions of the individuals and so too must we have socialist laws governing the organizations of people within the countries. The enforcement and regulation of society costs money, if you don't want to pay for the benefits of society, then publicly renounce your right to the protections the society grants you from murderers, rapists and thieves. Grow up already.

You anti-tax crybabies are like a 4-yr old child who whines when his parents buy his their older brother new glasses because he needs them and nothing for him.

Besides, your list repeats itself numerous times.

Well, your asking for it. Taxation is coming and at punitive levels along with increased inflation possibly running in the double digits.

Give me Universal Health Care, quality schools, free mass transit on a grand scale, bridges that don't collapse, an operating FEMA, FDA, OSHA and all the rest of the agencies we depend on for quality of life and you can have half of what i make.

I pay about 1/3 of my 80k USD yearly salary(seems more than it is, cost of living is higher here), and I have that :) except free public transit.

Admittedly, we have 25% VAT on most goods and services, except foodstuffs, but that is easier to regulate yourself.

If the Republicans feel so bad about their party, why don't they vote in favor of their country? Screw the selfish little Ba$tard$. I hope all Republicans running for office this year get kicked out of office. (riminal$.

Scott @ 122:

Joe O. @ 117:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 116:

Joe O. @ 112:

Give me Universal Health Care, quality schools, free mass transit on a grand scale, bridges that don't collapse, an operating FEMA, FDA, OSHA and all the rest of the agencies we depend on for quality of life and you can have half of what i make.

I agree with you there. To offset those costs and to lower taxation I would suggest reducing some of the Government's outlays. Items such as the extremely costly wars and massive defense budgets come to mind.

Funny thing is I don't remember getting a tax "break" do you? You know why? Most of it went to the rich. This whole they are going to tax you stuff is a simplistic scare tactic. The Democrats have proposed raising taxes on those making 250k or more a year, which as any sane person knows, leaves out over 90% of the country.

That is true but at the same time we can not ignore the fact that there is a huge defense budget as well as the wars. Those to are paid for by the Government. At some point, something is going to have to give.

Here is the lamest excuse a ardent repub Bush-adherent colleague of mine has to say:

"Bush has no control whatsover over the meltdown in the financial markets. Just like he has no control over the 9-11 bombings by Al Qaeda. Bush can only react to situations, and so far he has done remarkable job of leading this country out from terrorism and now recession"

This is the most asinine statement that my colleague has ever said, just confirm my belief that all repub are complete lemmings and idiots, regardless of their college degree or titles.

Bush has control over the economy after all he gets to use his fiscal responsibility. And he is using them to cut taxes for the rich, and spending loads of $$$ on foreign land (rather than in the US), way to go to burn this USA economy down the drain.

Paul K @ 6:

I personally think it's interesting and disturbing that Republicans think of themselves as a "brand". Maybe they suck so bad at governing because their first priority is marketing.

They suck so bad at governing because they don't believe in government.

“The House Republican brand is so bad right now that if it were a dog food, they’d take it off the shelf.”

Our Republican economy is so bad right now, dog food may soon be the only thing on the shelves.

As most of the Republicans in Congress are either idiots, kiss-ups, goons or COWARDS, I'm pretty sure you'll see many more of them "jumping ship" and retiring. A number of them have already done so because they see the writing on the wall and they don't want to be caught under the Capitol Rotunda when the writhing masses come for revenge.

And of course, Rep. Davis went on to take personal responsibility for all the misguided votes he cast in support of the exact Republican policies that created all the troubles he now acknowledges we face. Oh -- he didn't? THAT'S the Republican brand for you!!!!

This idiot had ample opportunity to talk about what his sick and corrupt party was doing to our country but he was all too happy to toe the party line. Rep Tom Davis another profile in cowardice. Good riddance.

wild_idea @ 129:

Here is the lamest excuse a ardent repub Bush-adherent colleague of mine has to say:

"Bush has no control whatsover over the meltdown in the financial markets. Just like he has no control over the 9-11 bombings by Al Qaeda. Bush can only react to situations, and so far he has done remarkable job of leading this country out from terrorism and now recession"

This is the most asinine statement that my colleague has ever said, just confirm my belief that all repub are complete lemmings and idiots, regardless of their college degree or titles.

Bush has control over the economy after all he gets to use his fiscal responsibility. And he is using them to cut taxes for the rich, and spending loads of $$$ on foreign land (rather than in the US), way to go to burn this USA economy down the drain.

It's amazing how limited the 29%-ers analytical abilities are. My state wide paper, The Star-Ledger, (NJ) is pretty even-handed on most subjects. But what is hilarious is the letters to the editor from the residents in the retirement communities, known as "Seizure Villages". They almost all praise and support the moron in chief.

But I predict that hordes of them will still go and vote for McSame in November.

Like programmed rodents...

I will not be surprised if McSame does win. After all there is a woman (EWWW!!!) and a black man (YIKES!!!) running for democrat this year and we all know how fearful, racist and childish both republicans and right leaning dino's are...

ysbaddaden @ 115:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 109:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 105:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 100:

For me it's genetic so on March 17th i get to choose another nationality. Today i might be Swahili.

I'm part Irish...and it's my Mawmas bday too! So it's always been a special day for my fam damily.
And Swahili, nice..but I would have gone Zulu...

Too bad I can't afford any Guiness

Part of boosh's economic miracle I suppose.

Nope...no Guiness for me either...yeah...boosh's eco-miracle...AKA fuck the people.

“It’s no mystery,” said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). “You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He’s just killed the Republican brand.”

Gee, mighty white of him to throw in comment about the Iraq war - right behind falling stock prices. Davis is another of the "Man, did we fuck everything up, I'm outa here, you guys are on your own!" wing of the GOP.

I'm sure retirement can be "liberating" when you've got a fat pension & health insurance for the rest of one's life!

Paul K @ 6:

I personally think it's interesting and disturbing that Republicans think of themselves as a "brand". Maybe they suck so bad at governing because their first priority is marketing.

They're like "brands" of cigarettes
But don't come with a Surgeon General's warning.

i love the word "brand" here, like it's a kind of fucking peanut butter. these assholes think that running this country is a game. for them politics is all about advertising. the whole bunch of these lying, corrupt fuckers ought to be run out of town on a rail. these rats have sunk this country and now they're abandoning ship and blaming the idiot captain for "ruining their brand," but don't want to admit the truth: that their obstructionism and empty-headed and unprincipled kow-towing to the thieves bush and cheney is the reason that their filthy "brand" is as about as attractive as a festering pile of cat shit.

The rats are jumping a sinking ship....thank God!! Sink you b*tch, sink!!

IF the GOP was a car... It would be an Edsel.... Hey, I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.... And it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of jerkoffs and greed mongering war pigs.....ya know...JD

Bush IS the republican brand. These guys rubber stamped everything this radical administration wanted for six years. This IS who they are.

The republican party is much worse then bad dog food I think it's closer to shit in a paper bag.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 9:

Paul K @ 6:

I personally think it's interesting and disturbing that Republicans think of themselves as a "brand". Maybe they suck so bad at governing because their first priority is marketing.

must be a Texan thing. I'd like to brand them all with a big X on their butts with a hot iron..

No a big brand on the middle of their forhead so you know what kind of idiots they are A big I

jack damage @ 144:

IF the GOP was a car... It would be an Edsel.... Hey, I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.... And it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of jerkoffs and greed mongering war pigs.....ya know...JD

The only problem is that they got theirs at the cost of our collective welfare maybe just maybe they should lose all their ill gotten gains and have start at the back of line what is it but when someone commits fraud the fine is paltry compared to the gains that were gotten

manny hussein @ 142:

i love the word "brand" here, like it's a kind of fucking peanut butter. these assholes think that running this country is a game. for them politics is all about advertising. the whole bunch of these lying, corrupt fuckers ought to be run out of town on a rail. these rats have sunk this country and now they're abandoning ship and blaming the idiot captain for "ruining their brand," but don't want to admit the truth: that their obstructionism and empty-headed and unprincipled kow-towing to the thieves bush and cheney is the reason that their filthy "brand" is as about as attractive as a festering pile of cat shit.

True true if they would start fighting for their party and what is right and not whatever stupid little idea chimpy comes up with even I can see that the current regime has not loyalty to the party ( it's only along for the ride) but to how they can be enriched.
All those repugs not running for reelection because of stricter lobbying rules I think they are not tough enough should be 10 years between leaving office and lobbying. also think that important chairman positions should only be held for 2 years to stop the abuse of power that those positions hold

unsurebtwilling@148;

I agree, and if anything, am inclined to think the back of the line is still giving them more than they deserve... Wouldn't bother me if the whole lot from Chimpy right on down to the janitor that voted for the jerk ends up kicked to the curb and kept out of the line permanently. In other words, take all their marbles and laugh in their faces and tell them up is down and black is white.. Just like they did to all of us for the last 27 or so friggin years....JD

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