What Is Broder Suggesting Will Happen To Obama?
By Nicole Belle Sunday Mar 16, 2008 6:02pm
I was watching the late night rerun of Meet The Press last night and heard Washington Post columnist David Broder make this comment:
“It’s very unlikely, Tim, that she [Clinton] catches up in terms of the pledged delegates from the primaries and caucuses that remain… She has one other game that she can play, which is that, after the last primary in Puerto Rico, there will still be two months before the convention meets. During that time there will be events and there will be a ton of polls. Her hope has to be that either something happens to Senator Obama or that the polls indicate that she would be a better candidate against John McCain.”
I had to replay that a couple of times...does it sound to you like Broder is suggesting that Obama will be assassinated? (h/t Arlen and The Daily Background for the video)
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Ohhh, Nicole Nicole Nicole... ....
No, I think that is reaching quite a bit to be honest. I feel he was just referring to politically. Something happen that causes him to slip in the polls or take a hit in the press or whatever. And with all the b.s. that's dragged about him, that's not an impossibility.
I think he means if some big Obama scandal comes to light. Poor choice of words though
I agree with jazzysoul. I think you might be reaching on this one.
Assassinated? Dude that is such a stretch. Obama's campaign maybe, but not necessarily his person. Look who's talking...it's the Dean of the Village...Snoopy, if you will...if Snoopy talked.
Dramatizing much?
It sounds like he's saying something could happen to him PR related.. or politically.. any one of the zillion things that can happen to drag down a presidential campaign.
Maybe the good Senator should stay away from grassy knolls?
Aish...that's a gross thought. I agree with jazzysoul that it's also reaching. It sounds to me like Broder means "something" like Spitzer thing. That kind of something.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's referring to a gaffe of some kind.
I believe this is an overreaction. It's the same reason why McCain is only the Presumptive nominee - there's still time for him to have some scandal destroy all his credibility. This isn't a call for an assassination, it's a plea for him to be caught with a hooker.
He's talking about the racy photos of Obama spooning with Spitzer just before Obama flew that plane into the Pentagon on September 11th. There's nobody that hateful who would snipe a black man with a positive message in America.
That sound you hear is the sound of a million sycophantic clinton supporters simultaneously loading up their guns to support their candidate.
Shiesty.
I also don't know if we should be bringing this theme up so much, ya know?
by the way, why is it that if anyone even hints at the idea that something could happen to him (in the way Nicole wondered if he meant) that somehow that person is a complete idiot and a right wing hack or something? I'm not going to lie, I'd vote for Obama in a heartbeat over who we have as options, and I believe in his candidacy. That being said, if anyone is to say that that thought has never entered their head, they are flat out either lying or are suffering from the Ostrich Syndrome, with their head in the sand.
Whether it's been comedians (Eddie Murphy) or whatever, the idea of the first Black President being assassinated is not a NEW idea. It's not something that the right wing is suddenly making up to throw at people to say "we shouldn't vote for him, because this will happen"
While I think that if that happened, that could do some irreparable harm to this country in terms of race relations, I don't think that any normal sane person would not vote for him based on that idea. Several White presidents have been shot, or killed in office, so it's not a situation of being exclusive to one group or anything.
I just think that there is a lot of overreaction on the left to anyone on the right saying that. Along the lines of what happened on Hannity's board. That didn't strike me as anything other than someone throwing out that possibility and essentially saying that it's not an impossible thing to think that some idiot out there would do that and think that they are doing the right thing. And I think that whole thing with Hannity's board hosting that post is a bit overdone, to be honest, but that's my opinion only.
I wouldn't presume to tell people they have to believe what I do, but I just think that there is a little sensitivity here. And admittedly with all the b.s. that people are making up or exaggerating about Obama perhaps it's warranted, I don't know.
Yes, if by 'assasinate,' he meant SWIFTBOATED. Assasinated by two bullets. One, a picture of him in a Nigerian gown, and the other a preacher that he's only loosely associated with.
Assassination? No, it didn't even occur to me. He obviously meant in a political sense. Save the drama for your mama...
I am a diehard C&L addict, but you might want to consider taking this one down, folks. Credibility matters. Even for the blogosphere.
I agree with the previous posts. The discission prior to this was about Rezco and Obama's involvement and also his affiliation with his church. So I'm sure Broder is talking about these issue or some other yet unkown scandal that could hurt Obama. the idea that the was talking about an assassination is a very bif stretch. look at the context.
I interpreted "something happens" as:
His gay lover surfaces
He confesses to being the father of Jamie Lynn Spears baby
He converts to Scientology
But physical harm? Assasignation!? Perhaps we're looking for a scandal...
Broder is a putz, but Nicole is seriously impaired. Although, I do think it sort of follows the same path as the dumping that Obama supporters did on Ferraro. Is it just another attempt of a "true believer" trying to play the race card?
I agree with scandal or misstep angle.
I agree with flamethrower @ 11
He must be talking about when they pin September on Obama. After all, his name is Hussein. He most be responsible for it.
Yes, he meant assassination... this is a liberal blog isn't it?
Oh please, as others have said...you are really reaching on this one.
A scandal, a "Dean Scream" or some other media event to destroy the momentum of Obama's candidacy is what Broder is suggesting. There is enough right wing commentary going on without attempting to create it out of thin air.
September 11th, that is.
Agree with those that say C&L is probably reaching for straws on this one. I think a reasonable person would listen to that and say Broder is suggesting political happenings.
I love the website, am a liberal, but Nicole you really need to join reality. He clearly means politically. Steve Humphreys has it right. You risk the credibility of the website by seeing demons everywhere.
Not sure what the "Dean" of the Washington press core meant to say, but I do believe he is old enough to remember RFK in '68. Odd how it was the one anti-war candidate that got shot.
I tend to agree with C&L more times than not, but there's been a few times that I just kinda shake my head.
Nicole, no not you, you haven't become an Obamazoid have you? Holy shit the Obama fever has people losing their minds. Will physical spasms/fits be next???
Maybe Obama should talk to Kathleen Wiley's cat.
Oh that's right, he can't.
Because Fluffy is DEAD!
Time to move on Nichole...this thread is not needed.
He wouldn't be the first person to turn up dead with connections to "government" so would be little surprise. Prob the only way Hillary can win.
Broder's remark is very strange and vague. It could sound almost like a threat -- a political threat. Does Broder know something we don't? For example: Is it Hillary's hope to start a civil war within the Democratic party with a superdelegate coup?
Never underestimate the Clintons. NOBODY spends a lifetime in politics without a lot of dirty stuff in the closet. I could see the assassination of the Dem Party, with the DLC providing the coup and the Clintons at the helm, and pushing any further thoughts of a difference between parties right out of everyone's minds.
I think it was a poor choice of words and he should have expounded on what he meant by "something" as in scandal, etc. instead of being vague.
and GoodGod@30
You don't excatly inspire a lot of respect when you use words like obamazoid, etc. I have seen you do it often enough on these threads to have wearied of it. If you want to have an adult conversation then cut the crap. Flame away, as I am sure you will.
I don't think that is what he was saying. However, the fact that Obama has had Secrete Service protection since the very start of his campaigns, and the given history of such inspirational messengers of peace, it is not paranoia bourne of nothing.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again however, this is why Obama must NOT pick a combo of white, southern, military and/or right-leaning man to be his Veep. I don't care how much it will help him in the general election(he won't need it anyway), or how qualified they might be. Besides, there are better options any way Sebelius*, Napolitano, Richardson all come to mind.
No Webbs, no Clarks, no Hagels. Hell, even a Biden, Vilsac, or Warner might be pushing it. Have some of these guys in the cabinet, of course, I would love to see Hagel as Sec. Defense for instance.
You just don't want to give some nutjob any more extra incentive to try and get to "the next guy".
Case in point, look at how Cheney is almost an insurance policy for Bush, both from assasination and impeachment.
*= my personal pick; Obama/Sebelius is an unbeatable ticket and a lock for 16years of history making for Dems.
Yeah I'd consider take this post down Nicole, sounds a bit paranoid
A character assassination, perhaps.
Odd, I've seen occasional fears expressed on blogs saying that Obama needs to be very careful for his physical safety (around the time that it was learned the Secret Service had stopped security checks at Obama rallies). But I've never seen a single similar concern expressed about HRC. Both candidates need to be protected against crazies out there.
As for Broder, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about what he meant. He worded it badly. If he'd said, "Her hope has to be that either something happens to Senator Obama's campaign..." it wouldn't have caught anybody's attention.
That sound? It's C&L's credibility seeping away... I have a high regard for this site, but if I see much more of this sort of inanity, I'll go elsewhere.
Oh, and to add, though I dont mean to start her supporters up, and I know he wouldn't anyway, but I would also include Hillary in the list of who NOT to pick. Too hawkish; too tied to the powers that be and corporate interests; and too hell bent on winning at all cost(not saying she would have anything to do with it, but the lower her campaign stoops, the less benefit of the doubt I give) .
Maybe he means the MSM will probably start posting the dirt on him. What they could do is find a real juicy SEX story...after all he could be a serial killer and people would mind, but he if had some kind of sex party they would throw him to the wolves.
Fanon@37
and GoodGod@30
You don’t excatly inspire a lot of respect when you use words like obamazoid, etc. I have seen you do it often enough on these threads to have wearied of it. If you want to have an adult conversation then cut the crap. Flame away, as I am sure you will.
You're exaggerating Fanon; this is only the second time I've ever used it (I'll admit that I ripped it off from someone who posted on HuffPost, so maybe you're blending their comments with mine). This time it was SUPPOSED TO BE A JOKE (albeit "kifdding on the square"). A little sensitive, are we?
I will say only this:
for those who don't think it's possible, remember that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated the night he literally won the the nomination.
It is possible! and there are enough far-right wackos out there that one (or more) just might get it into thier heads to try.
The right-wing talking heads are already spewing about what could happen under an Obama presidency.
Yes, or that some vague, unforeseen accident will just happen to befall him at the ideal time.
Funny how that happens sometimes.
BTW, George Wallace also happened to have an unlikely accident at a really crucial primary moment.
No Nicole,
Every time someone mentions the fact that something may happen to obama it doesn't always have to mean he will be killed. I hope hilary wins but if she doesn't I will still vote democrat. What worries me is that there are democrats out there that hate hilary so much that if she does win they will stay home and not vote at all or vote for nader. And the flip side of that is that if obama wins then a lot of the hilary voters will vote for mccain instead of a black guy so how do we solve that problem folks.
Thank you and one more thing
[Sorry, Dwainw, but I'm not about to let you take it off topic again. Site Monitor]
Dwainw
@44
Don't think it's the first time you've used similar language, but whatever, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Not sensitive, really don't care who people vote for, just show respect to both Democratic candidates is all.
P.S. Usually jokes are a)funny and b)don't need to be explained.
I'm surprised that so many forget about another popular candidate. Robert Kennedy.
nothing to see here folks, move on.
Wien @ 12:
SICK PERSON
Put down the remote.
Step away from the DVR.
Take the rest of the week off.
Pretty HUGE stretch and honestly I think it is disturbing that that is how you took the comment. Seems like you owe an apology.
Not like you'd seriously consider taking this down, but I'm behind you on this one, Nicole, because you're asking our opinions rather than stating outright that Broder suggested assassination.
But I do think your ears are a bit too sensitive on this one.
Whats this Jerry Falwells The Clinton Chronicles part 2?
People get a grip.
The Clintons aren't going to have Obama hit give it up already.
It can't happen here?
It has in the past and it will happen again, because you can't put anything past the criminals that are the government!
No. He's saying if Obama becomes toxic through say something like association to Wright. Now it shouldn't, and I don't think it will happen, for what it's worth. Don't like Broder, but he's not calling for assassination or predicting it or considering its likelihood. Get a grip.
As some one who lived through the 60's including working on the Kennedy campaign in California in 1968, take this down. Implying that the intent of that remark was the assassination of a presidential candidate is without basis and using it to start a thread is an outrage.
Kids, it's time to give up your internet-based fantasy-filled, rumor-mongering, "it sounds like racism to me" world and get real life.
When I first visited Afghanistan in 2003, I was greeted by a soldier who said, "Welcome to the forgotten front line in the war on terror." Since then, the Taliban and al Qaeda have continued to gain new footholds throughout the country, and as a result, the overall terrorist threat, as our own intelligence community has noted, is growing.
Who said this?
A. George Bush
B. Dick Cheney
C. Condi Rice
D. Hillary Clinton
E. John Kerry
Hillary feels that she is entitled, maybe annointed like "W", to be in the White House. If the past few weeks are any indication, she will accept the nomination through any depths necessary. Not country, not party; just legacy.
Broder depends for his job on establishmentarian candidates running for office. If someone is elected (like Obama) who tells Broder and his corporate-media pals to take a hike, his career is toast. That's what he's afraid of, I suspect. Broder hasn't had an original thought since the Vietnam era.
Let us hope that it is as big of a stretch as it sounds.
Broder is suggesting that Obama will be assassinated?
Someone on Hannity's website forum said he would be.
Totally ridiculous. I'll be taking everything C&L posts now with a giant grain of salt.
Sorry, but I think there is a serious possibility that Obama will not live to see November 2008. How many sick, twisted, armed weirdos are out there who would love to take a shot at him? Hundreds? Thousands?
He shouldn't get out of bed without a bullet-proof vest on.
jimso @ 23:
I'd prefer this blog be credible than liberal.
It is an attempt at something like a metaphor....Rezko is on trial and the response to the Rev. Wright's vile words are on-going factors that hang over Obama's head. Recent events for the very first time have called into question Obama's judgement. Now the media has not turned against him and his voter base is fiercely loyal...so maybe it will all just simply blow over. Last Friday on the talk shows he looked nervous and off message.......way off message. Axelrod will hate this part. So how Obama gets past this, may just be the measure of this man. The cornerstone of Obama's campaign has been JUDGEMENT........his judgement winning over Hillary's experience and accomplishments. So if a large number of swing voters began to shift...especially white men, then you can say something has happened to him.
Obviously, it's a possibility, but I don't think that assassination was what Broder was specifically referring to. The very fact that our political leaders need and have Secret Service protection keeps this as a possibility - but certainly not an inevitability.
It means he knows his friends are in the process of digging frantically for embarrassing and/or damaging material that they will happily release to the public to keep a person of color out of the White House. And when they get rid of the person who has the most delegate votes, they will get to work on the only person left to take on McLame and do their best to keep a woman out of the White House. Aging white men are seeing their influence wane and they are very, very desperate. What do you think the Ghoul Novak is doing with his spare time these days?
Nicole, I agree with most responses here; it sounds like he meant there could be a scandal, something derailing happen to Obama. As it is, the stupidest things can happen and they get blown out of proportion and could ruin a candidates chances - we see proof of that all the time. The way the American media runs it - religion, etc, god, I don't know how you folks can stand it. Most of what's reported is bull...t.
Yeah I saw that on MTP. I assumed Broder was talking about Obama being abducted by aliens or getting stuck n a time warp or his campaign imploding from some unseen event. But if you like assassination, then, you know, have another sip of kool-aid or a jelly donut.
I have to agree with other posters; the statement does not insinuate that at all. It sounds like "something" refers to an embarassing event, something that will get Obama in trouble in the public eye.
However, I have heard more than one person wonder out loud if there are any crazy Hillbilly-White Supremacists out there that will attempt to do something like that.
I hope President Obama has very strong security with him at all times.
...God forbid such an event were to happen; it would make the L.A. riot some years back look like a picnic... and people the world over would be even MORE negative about the U.S. than they already are.
55 L.A. Confidential Says: Whats this Jerry Falwells The Clinton Chronicles part 2?
People get a grip.
The Clintons aren’t going to have Obama hit give it up already.
I don't think Broder was suggesting assasination, but maybe putting out a suttle warning. We have a fascist corporate government that I wouldn't put anything past. I certainly didn't get anything out of it that would suggest that the Clintons would be involved. Some of you are really reaching.
He's only saying that another 'pastor' story with 911 overtones and Obama's showing so much poor judgement of character flaws in such a hateful human being .....citizens of USA are sooner or later going to see what kind of leader he really would be. Can't pick another President this time because he would be great guy to have a beer with or in this case , an Elvis , with screaming fans and fainting in the aisles . These times are ripe for a little bit more thought be put in a very huge decision.
Well maybe she means that the Rapture will occur and then Obama will be sucked up into heaven (He is a good Christian isn't he?) and we will be left here with only Hillary to vote for because SHE IS THE DEVIL!!!!!!!! and there is no way she could be sucked up into the rapture...... At least some Obama supporters think so!
lilybelle @ 57-
No. He’s saying if Obama becomes toxic through say something like association to Wright. Now it shouldn’t, and I don’t think it will happen, for what it’s worth. Don’t like Broder, but he’s not calling for assassination or predicting it or considering its likelihood. Get a grip
Broder was being far more vague than that.
"Her hope has to be that either something happens to Senator Obama or..." means that there could be a political gaffe or an automobile accident or a heart attack....Imagine what does occur, randomly, every minute.
I would just like to add one more thing to my post, and I would assume Nicole would agree, but there is nothing, nothing, in the world that I(we?) would care to be more wrong on.
While it might be a bit paranoid, I don't think it is neccessarilly bad to raise the point, or just elevate the awareness of such threat. Not so that people or candidates become anxious themselves, it's a very delicate matter, but just in the way that a greater awareness might decrease the danger.
Take or leave his point of view, but Broder is a decent enough guy. Your speculation is unfair.
This issue should not be discussed. There are far too many wing-nuts who may take this as a message to do harm.
Why don't we talk more about why WE (Americans) are paying for the reconstruction of Iraq. Where is the money from Iraq Oil going, (it's said to be being put in offshore accounts).
Lets talk about the Bush Legacy, the Legacy of the Anti-Grammarian President.
The person who sits in the most powerful seat in the world, with his finger on the Nuclear button can't seem for the life of himself pronounce the word without it sounding like nuculur.
wow..I'm #75 and this is still allowed to be up.....you need to go back on your meds.
Man, sometimes I wonder about the conclusions drawn here lol.
I heard it and thought the same thing....because it was said with ominous undertones....and left as a big mystery question hanging in the air.....and after the loss of great leaders through violent means it was not a Kook theory....
((((and to be honest she does act sooooo entitled about this...she acts like he has not right to want to be president...and we have watched her rip this party apart...and dive to new lows week by week....she does not want this Presidency for you and me...she wants it for HERSELF....it has become a narcisstic quest...for her and Bill...it has been Shameful to watch...)))
Broder means the press ts going to screw Obama into the ground like a big post hole auger.
And let McSame walk.
Just like they have with all of the past Dem candidates
OMG! Obama people are simply fascinated with the idea of assassination. What Broder is saying is that Obama will commit some political folly--like the Rev. Wright--and no longer look like a viable candidate. Do you people actually believe a MSM anchor would go on national television and speculate about a candidate's assassination? No wonder you believe all of Obama's drivel.
59, D?
Just a guess mind you.
Ron @ 73:
The Hussein trolls in particular.
I would think it's more on the level of Obama getting "Spitzered." Some kind of scandal that forces to leave the race.
Drew @ 64:
You should take anything you read on the internet with a grain of salt.
tek @ 84:
Actually, Nicole is a Hillary supporter.
George Harrisons final album.
http://tinyurl.com/23msxo
I had to replay that a couple of times…does it sound to you like Broder is suggesting that Obama will be assassinated?
No.
Nicole, I agree with the rest. I think he meant if something were to happen to Obama "politically" .... such as the Clintons would discover (or make up) some real dirty dirt and throw it at Obama.
Remember that Broder after all is only six years older than McCain. People at that age aren't so quick about the subtleties of language.
But having lived myself through the sixties, I can appreciate the point of your post.
LongTooth @ 78:
Agreed. Broder his a really spotty record when it comes to making predictions. Can't blame him for hedging his bets with a broad qualifier.
Did you happen to see what Gregory said before this comment? *quote from memory* "This campaign is not about policy, it's about personality." And this is a highly placed Washington correspondent! The media these days is populated by a bunch of smug, complacent dim-wits who happily think they are providing a wonderful service to the American electorate. Not the case.
Well, the family may have put a hit on Vince Foster, so you never know...
that is a constant fear-- but it does not sound like he is suggesting that--
Good grief read your posts people. No way? No way the US would ever have a major terror attack that killed that many people. No way a sitting prez would ever be killed (JFK). No way Bush would win an election(twice). No way a majority of Americans would ever believe Saddam and AlKayda connected. No way once elected a Dem majority in Congress would allow Bushie's henchmen to run roughshod and perform in their own legal category. No way? One has to laugh at the disbelief
83 Floridiot Says: Broder means the press ts going to screw Obama into the ground like a big post hole auger.
And let McSame walk.
Just like they have with all of the past Dem candidates
Quote This Comment March 17th,
We already know that. Someone up there #84 Tek called Broder a MSM anchor. I don't think so. He writes a column for one of the major newspapers
weren't there similar warnings about Bobbie K (who like his brother was going to unravel the insiders network in washington) and of course everyone said you had to be reaching or you're stretching a bit to arrive at that thought.
after i watched Obama give a speech in january, i turned to my fellow viewers and asked the question, "do you think they'll let him live past july? i'm betting not!" most striking reaction, there was no surprise to what i said and 2 nodded in agreement.
i so want to be wrong on this, your country so desperately needs someone to place it back on track, to once again being the land of the brave, instead of the land of the afraid.
De Røde Sko?
Considering it was Clinton's campaign headquarters that was held hostage, no one worries about her safety. This site has officially lost it with its Obama-fever. I'm a long time reader, and this post brought me out to comment. Absolutely ridiculous on all levels.
Pelosi will save us.
http://tinyurl.com/yqlsbo
7 JerryO Says: Maybe the good Senator should stay away from grassy knolls?
Or never go anywhere without his bong?
Nonsense. He wasn't suggesting that at all. What he was suggesting was that there would be another Obama scandal (like him being present when Rev. Wright delivered some of those screeds or Rezko, if he is found guilty, making a plea deal by giving up info on Barack). You owe Broder an apology
Nicole you just jumped the shark. go take a vacation for a while, clear your head. You're making things worse for progressives. Assassination? Why not something in hid in Obamas closet, a slip of the the tongue that offends. Please Nicole.
Actually, Nicole is a Hillary supporterJesus Christ! How many times do John and Nicole have to say that they don't- and the site does not- support either Obama or Clinton before you believe it? They've both stated that they supported candidates who are no longer in the race and they've stated that they will support the Democratic Party's nominee.
Why don't you believe them?
And why do Clinton supporters think Nicole supports Obama?
Seriously you're stretching on this thread
Broder may be deadly dull
But not deadly.
With Wright in the news
The Right may win
And Democracy dies.
Obama's hangnails get worse?
Gets an incredible offer to become a cabana boy?
Makes too many long-distance calls, and has to scrub the floor for AT&T?
Gives up politics because running in even-numbered years is bad luck?
Nope, can't think of anything Broder could have meant.
Andy K Jong Il @ 106:
Its called reading between the lines. Much like Faux News is "Fair and Balanced", C&L are neutral on their support.
Mico @ 105:
She's watching to much TV. I wouldn't wish that job on anyone. Especially since it's having to monitor the Wing Nuts.
Anyone would go nuts doing that.
106 Andy K Jong Il Says: Actually, Nicole is a Hillary supporter
Jesus Christ! How many times do John and Nicole have to say that they don’t- and the site does not- support either Obama or Clinton before you believe it? They’ve both stated that they supported candidates who are no longer in the race and they’ve stated that they will support the Democratic Party’s nominee.
Why don’t you believe them?
And why do Clinton supporters think Nicole supports Obama?
Rumor mongering smells less offensive than fish mongering
But isn't as nutritious.
Russ Mason UK @ 85:
Yep, it was D, Hillary Clinton. I just went through the trouble of googling it. I don't know what the original poster's point was.
Uh OHHHH......BAMA
Poll: Fifty-Six Percent Say Wright Makes Them "Less Likely" To Vote For Obama
By Greg Sargent - March 17, 2008, 11:55AM
If the numbers in this new Rasmussen poll are an accurate reflection of the electorate's sentiments, it would seem that Obama has not sufficiently distanced himself from his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, despite an aggressive media push on his part to do just that:
Most voters, 56%, said Wright’s comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright’s comments...
Overall, voters are evenly divided as to whether Obama should resign his membership in the Church—42% say that he should while 40% disagree. White voters, by a 46% to 33% margin, say that Obama should leave the Church. African-American voters, by a 68% to 16% margin, say he should not.
The poll also finds that Obama's favorability rating fell to 47%, down five points from last Thursday -- a drop that according to Rasmussen shows that the Wright story "has had at least a temporary impact on public perceptions of Obama," though it strikes me as a stretch to read this as being solely because of Wright.
The poll also finds that Wright has a comically abysmal favorability rating of eight percent.
In fairness, I can see how you might hear it that way. "Something happens to" is not how I would have phrased it if I'd meant that some scandal or other damaging info might arise, whether the candidate in question is Obama, Clinton, or McCain. I don't think of the hooker scandal as something that "happened to" Spitzer, for example.
This is so over the top it's ridiculous. Unless, of course, Nicole is putting this out hoping some Hillary haters will pick it up and the rumor will spread like wild fire that Hillary is hoping Obama is assassinated. That will teach her, right! I can just hear Tweety & Olbermann running with it now. And they say Hillary will do anything to win.
We don't know what he was thinking or suggesting. Are you all phychics? Assasination attempts have happened at least 5 time in my life and 3 successful. I've heard blacks say they are afraid for him. I just hope that security is at 100%.
Oliver @ 109:
Waaaaaaahhh. Then start your own blog. I don't see how this post (though possibly misguided and overly sensitive - sorry, Nicole) is remotely pro-Obama.
I think Broder's simply expressing the conventional wisdom that Obama must stumble for Clinton to prevail. There are other folks sounding fears over assassination, many of them conservative concern trolls (Jonah Goldberg and Glenn Reynolds, among others) who offer it as a reason no one should vote for Obama. But Broder doesn't seem to be pushing that here.
Richard @ 104:
He owes all of us a a jump off of the WaPo roof.
Hey, David: Eat Shit Off My Shoe.
Mico-
Jump the shark? That's a bit far...
I had to replay that a couple of times…does it sound to you like Broder is suggesting that Obama will be assassinated?
She never stated that he suggested assassination, she asked if that's the way others hear it.
Did you ever hear the one about the blind men and the elephant?
Nicole, I usually think you're right on, but I think that's a bit of a stretch. I think he's just saying that something might happen politically, or that some unexpected political development might occur, or something like that. I really don't think he's suggesting the other thing.
Batocchio @ 118:
That Rove told him to repeat every chance he gets.
Something...some political mess, some event or senario that could weaken him politically.
I saw no evidence to suggest that the statement in any way was suggesting assassination. I usually agree with you, but this was quite a stretch.
Stephen @ 113:
Does the poll say how many people said, "Are you fucking kidding me? I'd rather cut out my own eye and eat it than vote for another Republican."?
If there's anything that's gonna hurt Obama's campaign it'll be Rev Wright. I like Obama. Both candidates are acceptable to me and I've done my best to stay out of the primary wars. However, I find it really hard to believe that he's been going to that church for over 17 years and wasn't present for one of Rev Wright's bomb thrower sermons. If they find a tape of Obama at one of those sermons, it's game over.
Stephen @ 113:
Including every Clinton and McCain't supporter they could find.
Fifty-six percent say they wish Obama hadn't already won the primary.
Also, we should separate arguments about whether there are real reasons to fear for Obama's safety (obviously there are), from arguments about whether Broder was referring to those dangers.
Oh please. He clearly meant something happens in terms of the campaign. Stop exaggerating to get a juicy headline that is such yellow journalism.
enigma4ever @ 82:
Well i've read a slew of information & perspectives on our history of assassinations & there have been some odd activities being noticed, like the screening that got stopped at his rally a few weeks ago, and many a book has been written covering only the clues & warning signs in plain sight no one saw in the late summer/early fall of '63, but...
1. I'm not sold yet that there's really something going on(extraordinary claims require massive evidence & all that).
2. If there is Senator Clinton and Mr. Broder know as much about it as you and I.
So, I'm probably equating far too much Obama's "Change the mindset that got us into war" pledge & attendance of a church that acknowledges some of the unacceptable truths of the last 50 years to the plan Kennedy had to "Shatter the CIA into a million pieces" over the Bay of Pigs after he was re-elected.
116 Ron Says: We don’t know what he was thinking or suggesting. Are you all phychics?
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I'd like to give a few chics a physical.
ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 97:
Nobody said that there was no way Obama (or Clinton) could be assassinated. They just said that they don't think that's what Broder meant.
nonbeliever @ 125:
H'yeah, because McCain't has NEVER said anything extremist, and certainly has never associated himself with extremists.
And CENTCOM is mainly setting up ice cream shops, those angels.
Old Billy Hussein @ 131:
Right, because David Whore Broder would NEVER say anything to hint at lynching and gratify his rightwing audience. Never!
Nicole-
You have lost your Obamafried mind.
Broder, whom your choice for Pres has been trying to court, is obviously referring to a misstep by his holiness.
131 Old Billy Hussein
Nobody said that there was no way Obama (or Clinton) could be assassinated. They just said that they don’t think that’s what Broder meant.
Sorry, but that is EXACTLY what some are saying, even telling Nicole she needs a holiday. It's American politics. Anything goes, and anything can happen. There seemed that's what he was hinting at to me. But I'm a realist. Some people will do anything for power.
LVogt @ 128:
Right, because it's not like Paul Wellstone is dead, or anything.
oliver-
Its called reading between the lines. Much like Faux News is “Fair and Balanced”, C&L are neutral on their support.
Know what? I read between the lines, too. But ya know what the difference is between the two of us? I read at the page head on. You're probably reading it at an angle. Straighten out your monitor.
Old Billy Hussein @ 131:
That was much clearer than the way I put it.
The one I'm afraid for is Senator Clinton.
It is open season on her - bitch, whore - anything goes.
No one is permitted to say anything negative about BO.
TheEnd @ 134:
Yeah, the problem is Obama, not David Freakin' Whore Broder, and the proven willingness of Clinton supporters to enjoy the racist hints.
enigma4ever @ 82:
Actually we've seen newbies trying to rip the Democratic party apart whether it be Cuomo, Bill, Ferraro or Hillary.
During one debate Obama supporters booed Hillary. But the audience isn't supposed to react in debates. They may applaud when all the candidates hit the stage, and when the leave, but not react at any other time.
This booing, and more recently supporters swarming into Texas caucuses, giving BLACK election judges a hard time who were trying to make sure they voted in the primary as required, is giving them a bad name. In one case, the election judge had to run to the nearest police station.
Even Obama talks about not conducting policy as in the past, and presumably the Democrats are included in that.
ysbaddaden @ 130:
Can a Phychic predict when a train leaving Baltimore at 300 mph and one leaving Philadelphia at 200 mph will meet in the seventh house of Venus?
This booing, and more recently Obama supporters swarming into Texas caucuses, giving BLACK election judges a hard time...
Yes, it is plainly obvious that David Broder is suggesting inside knowledge of Obama's impending premature, and unfortunate demise. Is this the answer that you were hoping to extract? Seriously, what kind of an answer are you expecting to your passive-aggressive implication? Give me a break.
AlainJames @ 139:
HRC has made her bed, and now she will sleep in it.
Have a nice nap, Hillary. I have defended you here plenty, and probably will continue -- but you have LOST the primary, no matter how many mean names your opponent's supporters toss at you, and no matter how much you can't seem to be able to campaign against the stinking Republicans.
TheEnd @ 134-
Nicole-
You have lost your Obamafried mind.
Have you met el-mano @ 89?
Actually, Nicole is a Hillary supporter.
No.
X @ 144:
Enchanting his rightwing racist readers with lynching references.
He would NEVER do that! Dave Broder is a personal friend of Karl Rove, and Rove told him to only write the truth, and never lie.
Are you out of your mind? No one is suggesting assassination. Damn, this sounds like the plan of his cult to make him a martyr. Maybe he should beef up his security to protect him against his own followers.
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