Forever Wrong: John McCain on Iraq
By Nicole Belle Monday Mar 17, 2008 1:30pm
PERRspectives has compiled some of McSame's more infamous statements about Iraq, here on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the Iraqi invasion.
Just in time for the fifth anniversary of the U.S. invasion, presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain made an unannounced visit to Iraq. While McCain deemed the visit a "fact-finding" mission, his secret visit to Baghdad is just part of an extended photo opportunity in the Middle East and Europe designed to highlight his national security credentials.
Unfortunately for McCain, his excellent Baghdad adventure could well produce the opposite effect. After all, this week's looming anniversary highlights that at almost every turn, John McCain has been disastrously wrong about Iraq. From his predictions of a short war and U.S. troops greeted as liberators to "mission accomplished" and a thousand year American presence, the supposed maverick sounds hauntingly similar to President Bush and Vice President Cheney. The simple lesson for Americans is that you don't get to be this wrong and still become President of the United States. The corollary: John McCain is unfit for command.
Hard to believe, but PERRspectives found even more.
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I have absolutely no evidence to prove it but.... the surge is working.
And the fact i keep repeating that means it has to be true.
Whenever McCain or some other politician makes an unannounced visit to Iraq that usually is a bad sign. I can just imagine the nightmare that the troops and Iraqis are put through when this occurs. It will be something like:
All right Mr. Vice President if you wouldn't mind sprinting over to to the armored vehicle. Very well, the VP is inside now floor it and don't let anything stop you!
*arrives at the pre-cleared and heavily fortified PR area*
All right Mr. Vice President if we can just get a picture. Ready, say cheese. *click* Now run back to the armored vehicle!
If Andy says the surge is working, it must be working. The surge is working.
Cheney called the crime he and bush committed in Iraq, an "endeavor". Such a cute little name for such a bloody illegal invasion of a country that was not a threat.
Joe O. @ 3:
And the toughest part was trying to photograph from an angle that wouldn't show the pantload he was sporting after that explosion.
McCain needs to keep the blood of dead Iraqi children flowing, but the numbers are dwindling...so he must secure fresh blood from dead Iranian children or his master, the Dark Lord, will perish.
Seems to me that McCain and his two BFFs, Graham and Lieberman wanted to take a road trip and get some good photo ops on the way. McCain thinks if we see him in Baghdad often enough it will make us think he knows what he's doing. It hasn't worked for me yet.
This sad old fool belongs in a home, not the white house.
I wonder if McCain went to that same Baghdad market where he was surrounded by troops and wearing body armor and a helmet? Nah. The last I heard Al Sadr's men took over that area.
March 19th ~ http://www.sickofitday.org/
Bush/McCain 2008. 4 more years.
You know, as odd as it may sound it wouldn't surprise me in the least if most of the politicians don't even go to Iraq at all. The media is told and then reports that the politicians are in Iraq when they really aren't and they make the Command staff in Iraq fly to where ever those politicians are. I mean, seriously, bringing a high level target to a combat zone is a security nightmare. Especially when the military can not know who is a potential sniper, spotter, or other type of informant/combatant. You simply can not cover all possible areas of attack. After all, a 10 year old boy could be a spotter or even a sniper especially if he lives close by the green zone. All he would have to do is make a simple telephone call indicating that security has beefed up or that some unusual activity was taking place.
For all we know, Cheney and McCain stayed in Kuwait and had the Command staff fly there to meet them. Unless someone recognized the scenery no American would be the wiser.
Sorry OT, but funny........
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today, mcfeeble confused sunis and shiites
why isnt the msm all over this???
Joe O. @ 9:
Cheney snuck into Iraq the other day and was immediately air lifted to safety.
Another corner turned, last throes, the surge is working!
The war McSame wants to continue http://youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 14:
Because they dont know the difference either?
Ruthless People @ 16:
Love that clip. Cheney the prophet
And mcinsane does it again today:
"After McCain said it was "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran," the post reports "Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al-Qaeda.""
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_Iran_training_Al_Qaeda_Lieberman_03...
If a senile fossil says the surge is working, who am I to argue?
"The simple lesson for Americans is that you don’t get to be this wrong and still become President of the United States."
Bush? Bush Sr? Raygun? Nixon? People this wrong ALWAYS seem to be president of the United States.
McSenile '08 : Forever Young and Forever Wrong
opps! Guess that gaffe today has been brought up already both in the post and the comments. I'm blaming my not noticing on the flu I'm suffering through.
19 Terrible Hussein Says:
"And mcinsane does it again today:"
Once again, McCain just like the rest of the Republicans knows nothing about what or who they are dealing with in Iraq. No wonder Lieberman made that comment to McCain. Al Qaeda is a Sunni dominated group while Iran is Shia. They would more than likely to fight each other than train together.
According to McCain, when asked about their most pressing concern, 92% of the troops stationed in Iraq responded "what Obama's minister said in a sermon 2 years ago."
The other 8% were worried that they might be rotated out of Iraq too soon.
Are you sure? George did.
Terrible Hussein @ 19:
sad, isnt it
and the dems should not wait until nov to strip holy joe of his committee posts
they aint doing much anyway....strip him now and kick his ass to the curb
The AP went to great lengths today not only to cover his latest gaffe, but to change what he actually said to protect the old geezer.
And, gee, guess what ? The AP just edited out those comments in it's report on what McCain said ............ simply removed. And there you have it in a nutshell relative to the Corporate Media's efforts to get their corporate boy McInsane installed as the next president so that a government BY AND FOR THE FEW can be sustained.
As long as there are available lavatories in the White House and Grandpa gets a sufficient supply of Presidential prune juice, we should be OK.
John West @ 26:
I don't think America got it wrong with George, their vote just doesn't count.
Flip Flop McCain
Now McCain is telling the far right to kiss his butt.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/03/17/VI20080317...
McCain will say and do anything to get elected. Now McCain is stabbing his far right supporters in the back.
McCain will do the same thing to you if you support him!
mccain's gaffe will not get buy olbermann, the internet, or the commedians. that's what's different about this presidential election than the last 2.
Senator McCain it is way past the time to stop looking at the Iraq war in terms of emotion and begin to look at it proportionality.
We were vulnerable because the airline industry did not want to secure cockpit doors as the FAA suggested as far back as the 80's, and when Dem. colleagues of yours tried to introduce a bill to secure cockpit doors YOUR fellow Repugs blocked the effort saying that it is not the business of government to interfere with business and that if airlines thought it was important to protect their passengers by securing the cockpit door they would do so.This was at the same time that airlines were beginning to question the need to serve peanuts with that inflight cocktail.
The Terrorist on 9-11-01 knew where we were vulnerable and hit our soft underbelly, that nexus between government need to provide safety for its' citizens and corporate desire to maintain a comfortable profit margin.
Not one single American who can nash a couple of brain cells together will ever forget the nearly 3,000 humans that lost their lives that day.
The total cost of that one attack on our soil cost $30 billion to our economy.Stock prices fell and gas prices jumped to record levels.
Here it is 6 years later we are encroaching on 4,000 service men and women dead and many more wounded with no clear number of innocent Iraqis caught up in the struggle.
We are spending $30 billion a month and estimates of $3 trillion total we have poured out into the sands of Mesopotamia all of which we have borrowed and no positive resolution in the near future.
We have pissed away much of our good will throughout the world and one thing is certain.....Bin Laden is not in Iraq.
Senator it is time for you and your Repug colleagues to take stock of the fact that you will be long gone before most of those bills come due.
According to US law these people are guilty of war crimes.
The War Crimes Act
§ 2441. War crimes
(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.
I would like to know how these Republicans keep getting away with saying that their main job is "to defend and protect the American from harm both foreign and domestic". This is not their FUCKING OATH!! The oath of office just like the oath to join the military and many other government positions is not to protect and defend the American People, it is to protect and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies both foreign and domestic. It makes me cuss every time I hear one of these idiots say this and I never hear anyone push back.
$300 million/day, 100 more years... anybody gotta calculator?
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Liberal AND Proud @ 6:
According to this link, Conyers recently stated that if Bush launches a pre-emptive strike against Iran he should be impeached:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...
It's incredible to think that we would give ANY president a free pass with the same type illegal invasion against Iraq.
jeez i can't believe mccain. the guy STILL doesn't know the difference between shia and sunni! so much for foreign policy experience... and good luck seeing any MSM reporting on it.
RayC Hussein @ 36:
Thank you very much for the above! You absolutely correct. They'd like to think we're not paying attention...
Someone ought to ask McCain if he knows the difference between Sunni and Shi'a?
"Forever Wrong" Is that the Alphaville Version or the Rod Stewart version?
Terrible Hussein @ 19:
This will be so much fun..
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, I meant bomb bomb Iran, not bomb bomb Israel."
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, Hugo Chavez not Victor Hugo."
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, the Quran not the Islamic bible"
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, kill Osama not kill Obama."
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear," leading McCain to add: "I'm sorry, North Korea not North Carolina."
McCain will need a tiny pocket-Lieberman to bring with him to every debate
Johnnyboy says "Stroke it long enough, you'll get a surge."
Ah, photo ops in Iraq. McCain really is Bush III.
First of all, let's on the Left stop all of this, "unannounced" and "surprise" stuff. The place ain't safe and there is no other way for them to go in. There's some irony in he and Cheney talking about success, yet they have to sneak into the country.
This fellow is a fool, pure and simple. He would have nuked Asia (MacArthur) or nuked Vietnam (Curt LeMay). The cure to everything is bomb, bomb, bomb. He has no clue what a meaningful war is or what "victory" is.
I note McCain is just back from burying his face in the laps of Israel's leaders, an obligatory pre-election step. If any US politican showed some guts and took a balanced approach to Israel-Palestine, the world would be a different place and (some) attitudes would change. Remember, the so-called War On Terror cannot be won militarily. The IRA had only 300 active members, and the British Army spent over 30 years unsuccessfully trying to defeat them. Ended in a negotiated settlement ,and they used to send limos to pick Gerry Adams up at his hotel. And the IRA weren't willing to kill themselves, like Islamic fundamentalists are. Closer to home, if the US cannot eradicate LA street gangs, how can it eradicate worldwide fundamentalist terror...?
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