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Conservative efforts to characterize Barack Obama as Scary Black Man 2008 have picked up considerably of late, but this Fox News piece, disseminated widely by far-right blogs, reflects a certain desperation.

Barack Obama’s campaign has rejected the support of the New Black Panther Party, after removing an endorsement by the group from its Web site Wednesday. [...]

The New Black Panthers, who inherited their name from the Black Panther Party of the 1960s, had the page on the Obama campaign’s public forums. The group’s message said it is backing Obama because he “represents ‘positive change’ for all of America. Obama will stir the ‘Melting Pot’ into a better ‘Molten America.’” [...]

The NBPP is identified as an extremist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a tolerance education organization.

Fox News’ “report” goes on and on (and on) explaining how awful the New Black Panther Party is, and why no one should want anything to do with the group.

Unhinged right-wing activists extrapolated from this that the Obama campaign had touted support from the NBPP and gave the group its own page. One conservative went so far as to say Obama’s site was “caught bragging” about the NBPP’s support.

Given how excited the right got over all of this, it’s probably worth taking a moment to debunk this nonsense.

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Ernesto Ortiz's picture

David Duke claims he single-handedly forced the Obama campaign to remove the link from their site. So it seems that the Fox news and other right wing broadcasters have the strong support of Duke and other white-supremacists. Duke recently even linked, as he commonly does, to an article by Pat Buchanan. Just check out his site and you can find the same arguments that Fox news and others are making.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/flash-hours-after-exposed-by-daviddukec...

MooseShady's picture

AaaaHaaa! FRIST!!!!!

Moral Compass's picture

This is what "We are the Republican Party and we have NOTHING for America" looks like. When there are no GOP merits to bring to the American people--try lies and lies and more lies.

andy's picture

Murdoch is behind Hillary, what do you expect, thats why people like Limbaugh (a Roger Ailes creation) are telling folks to vote for Hillary.

tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe's picture

If the NBPP is anything like the old BPP then the inner city will be safer.

Maybe these scared white people should understand that people of color have a lot more to be scared concerned about when it comes to radical white people.

The NBPP and groups like theirs are concerned about protecting what is rightful theirs and helping their community. On the other hand radical whites are concerned about what belongs to others and what others believe. Now tell me what group is more of a problem?

xoites Hussein defends Constitution's picture

MooseShady @ 2:

AaaaHaaa! FRIST!!!!!

Devestated?

Doro's picture

I'm sorry to go off topic, but have you seen this Hillary Clinton video? The Brits are laughing their @rses off about Hillary here. I am more concerned by the blatant hypocrisy.

Radically Moderate's picture

Ernesto Ortiz @ 1:

David Duke claims he single-handedly forced the Obama campaign to remove the link from their site. So it seems that the Fox news and other right wing broadcasters have the strong support of Duke and other white-supremacists. Duke recently even linked, as he commonly does, to an article by Pat Buchanan. Just check out his site and you can find the same arguments that Fox news and others are making.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/flash-hours-after-exposed-by-daviddukecom-obama-removes-black-panther-party-news-group-from-website_3604.html

No friggin way will I go to that website.
Faux "News":
"We create the news to make it more entertaining for you the viewer"

chicano2nd's picture

The wingnuts are ready to jump on anything they can. But let the old fart blurt a lie over and over again and its just a mistatement, just a gaffe.

It was a lie through and through. He just forgot or misjudged who his audience was. He didn't think they would look critically at his words and when they became aware they couldn't be effective with the lie, old Joe had to step in and correct him. But it didn't end there. He did it again the next day.

The old truism arose. My what tangled webs we weave, when at first we practice to deceive!

DC's picture

Now the GOP resorts to out right lies. Why should not the democrats just start lying about McCain? Just pay money to the right people and let the lies go.

☻Bangkok Bob☻'s picture

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 6:

MooseShady @ 2:

AaaaHaaa! FRIST!!!!!

Devestated?

I know, will the fristers be continuing saying that forever. I never liked Frist to begin with and hate to see him still remembered. (may he be sued for mal-practice)

Sha_Rules's picture

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

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☻Bangkok Bob☻'s picture

News from the Ex-Pat community in Thailand.
We Ex-Pat Americans have all started to wear American Flag Lapel Pins

But we wear them Upside Down because America is under attack by the Idiocy of the Bush administration.

MooseShady's picture

itsamessi @ 13:

MooseShady @ 2:

AaaaHaaa! FRIST!!!!!

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☻Bangkok Bob☻'s picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

I'm sure there is a scratched off paper mark on your bumper.
My friend voted for him also, and he never stops apologizing for it.

Rick's picture

Q: is it right to hate?
A: if your hate is focused on fox news.. then yes, your hate is perfectly justified.

and i for one hate these miserable f*cking right-wing in-human freaks so much it scares me.

Radically Moderate's picture

chicano2nd @ 9:

The wingnuts are ready to jump on anything they can. But let the old fart blurt a lie over and over again and its just a mistatement, just a gaffe.

It was a lie through and through. He just forgot or misjudged who his audience was. He didn't think they would look critically at his words and when they became aware they couldn't be effective with the lie, old Joe had to step in and correct him. But it didn't end there. He did it again the next day.

The old truism arose. My what tangled webs we weave, when at first we practice to deceive!

From my teenage son I was told that people on Myspace are claiming that if Obama is elected he will put Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on his staff.
Say what you will about either man, however the message is meant to scare white voters away from Obama.
One step forward.......two steps back..........

ono hussein hayo's picture

It's time to define Fox News as the white supremacists organization they are. Their overt effort to further divide our nation along racial lines is deplorable and unAmerican.

mudshark's picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

don't feel bad,cause your not the only one who got duped by their BS.Attacking someone's sense of patriotism should be a crime. I sentence you to buy a Dem(of your choice) a six pack of good beer and to finish it with them.

abob's picture

The Obama folks had nothing to do with the Black Panther posting but they have control over it. The Obama website admin exercised control by removing the Black Panther endorsement when the mass media made it a national story.

RueMorgue's picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

Don't worry about it. It's not as if your vote mattered in 2000.

mudshark's picture

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 11:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 6:

MooseShady @ 2:

AaaaHaaa! FRIST!!!!!

Devestated?

I know, will the fristers be continuing saying that forever. I never liked Frist to begin with and hate to see him still remembered. (may he be sued for mal-practice)

Mornin Bob....I myself like to Frist @500 or so........keeps people on their toes.

motorfingaz's picture

This is why we need Obama as President.

Exposing the racists and bigots on all sides!

motorfingaz's picture

ono hussein hayo @ 19:

It's time to define Fox News as the white supremacists organization they are. Their overt effort to further divide our nation along racial lines is deplorable and unAmerican.

I did that over 8 years ago.

Radically Moderate's picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

I also have a confession to make:
I am an Independent voter and I have been voting straight party Democrat since '96, and I used to tell family that I would never vote straight ticket.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

The NBPP is identified as an extremist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a tolerance education organization

Well if memory serves me, the Southern Poverty Law Center is quite controversial not only in the way they rate "extremist hate groups" and in hiding money, so I take whatever they say about any particular party with a grain of salt.
There are times when ALL special interest groups overstep the boundaries of logic and *gasp* liberalism going overboard with zeal. It makes them no better than the groups they try to expose.

☻Bangkok Bob☻'s picture

mudshark @ 23:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 11:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 6:

MooseShady @ 2:

Devestated?

I know, will the fristers be continuing saying that forever. I never liked Frist to begin with and hate to see him still remembered. (may he be sued for mal-practice)

Mornin Bob....I myself like to Frist @500 or so........keeps people on their toes.

Evening Mudshark ... that's a good move, make it look as ludicrous as it is.
Did you see my post up there about the Falg Sitck Pins? We started it recently and now it is spreading to all the expats. every once in a while some jerk on vacation will try to give us shit about it, but, as you know, they can't defend their stand.

ohio progressive (typical white person)'s picture

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

itsamessi's picture

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ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

mudshark's picture

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 28:

mudshark @ 23:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 11:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 6:
I know, will the fristers be continuing saying that forever. I never liked Frist to begin with and hate to see him still remembered. (may he be sued for mal-practice)

Mornin Bob....I myself like to Frist @500 or so........keeps people on their toes.

Evening Mudshark ... that's a good move, make it look as ludicrous as it is.
Did you see my post up there about the Falg Sitck Pins? We started it recently and now it is spreading to all the expats. every once in a while some jerk on vacation will try to give us shit about it, but, as you know, they can't defend their stand.

no I haven't heard of the flag pin thing,I've been on drugs lately.Vicoden,my neck.

Abbybwood's picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

I forgive you. Now go on and sin no more.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 16:

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

I'm sure there is a scratched off paper mark on your bumper.
My friend voted for him also, and he never stops apologizing for it.

I too have friends who voted for him...you can't hold it against them if they're repentant...if they stand by their vote...then..give 'em hell.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

Recite 30 Hail Mary's in the name of Baby Jeebus while juggling bottles of scotch and drinking martinis with a straw!

☻Bangkok Bob☻'s picture

mudshark @ 32:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 28:

mudshark @ 23:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 11: Mornin Bob....I myself like to Frist @500 or so........keeps people on their toes.

Evening Mudshark ... that's a good move, make it look as ludicrous as it is.
Did you see my post up there about the Falg Sitck Pins? We started it recently and now it is spreading to all the expats. every once in a while some jerk on vacation will try to give us shit about it, but, as you know, they can't defend their stand.

no I haven't heard of the flag pin thing,I've been on drugs lately.Vicoden,my neck.

Coincidence? I also have my C3 C4 in jeopardy, I'm using Oxycodone (a lighter form of Oxycotin) Kayak accident on the Mekong.

foolme1ns's picture

When are they going to come right out and say don't vote for the[????] You know its coming. These people are scared shitless that a black man will wrest control of their white male dominated society (wasn't that Matthews who said that?) they are practically peeing themselves and they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure this doesn't happen. Frustrated stupid white people will do ANYTHING to stop a black man from getting the highest office in the land. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they don't try to, or succeed in assasinating him. Scared white people are very scary!!!!
[there has to be a better way,please don't say it like that again,all you'll do is start a racial flamewar,and we won't allow that..............Site Monitor]

Tenacious Moses's picture

I will be first. Don't vote for the inexperienced! Now, does that make me evil? racist? I do not align with his policy ideas or his vision. As an added bonus, i detest Whole Foods.

ohio progressive (typical white person)'s picture

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 30:

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

I beg to differ on Obama...he stands apart from the rest, including Mccain, if only because he hasn't been in DC long enough to've been bought....Obamas special interest group is the american public, the individuals sending him all that dough in 100 dollar increments (or less)

unless you're with the righties who think Obama is working for al qaeda and will represent the terrorist/muslim lobby when he gets into office...obamas contention that he'll change this is not pretend....and only those who stand to lose (clinton/mccain) want everybody to think it is....

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 29:

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

Way to generalize southern folks, ya yankee! We're not all friggin racists ya know! I'm from NC, and Edwards ain't no racist. And don't get me started about northerners I know who make the rebel flag wavin yahoos here in the south look like saints in comparison...racism is everywhere, not confined to any region, country, or group. So keep your prejudices to yourself. Have a nice day.

ohio progressive (typical white person)'s picture

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 37:

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 29:

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

Way to generalize southern folks, ya yankee! We're not all friggin racists ya know! I'm from NC, and Edwards ain't no racist. And don't get me started about northerners I know who make the rebel flag wavin yahoos here in the south look like saints in comparison...racism is everywhere, not confined to any region, country, or group. So keep your prejudices to yourself. Have a nice day.

i was speaking more specifically about edwards, meant the generalizations with a bit of humor attached....

edwards is either corrupt or racist....either way, it's no good, selfish and underscores the emptiness of his campaign rhetoric.

i wouldn't be surprised to see him endorse mccain at this point.

Shadowgm Hussein's picture

A little desperate?

Come on, first he's not black enough, then he's too fricking black because he's got Jeremiah Wright as a pastor and some anonymous spud claiming to represent the NBPP endorsing him.

Hail to the Chimp's picture

And too bad that Rev. Wright was quoting a Fox News guest when he said the chickens are coming home to roost.

tim's picture

the "New Black Panther Party" has NOTHING to do with the Panthers. They almost OPPOSITE in their politics. The NBPP is Islamic black nationalist, the BPP was vehemently ANTI nationalist, secular, and basically marxist. The BPP tried to bridge gaps between all minorities - even including gays, at the time very radical - and welcomed whites in their cause. The two have NOTHING in common.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 39:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 37:

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 29:

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

Way to generalize southern folks, ya yankee! We're not all friggin racists ya know! I'm from NC, and Edwards ain't no racist. And don't get me started about northerners I know who make the rebel flag wavin yahoos here in the south look like saints in comparison...racism is everywhere, not confined to any region, country, or group. So keep your prejudices to yourself. Have a nice day.

i was speaking more specifically about edwards, meant the generalizations with a bit of humor attached....

edwards is either corrupt or racist....either way, it's no good, selfish and underscores the emptiness of his campaign rhetoric.

i wouldn't be surprised to see him endorse mccain at this point.

Fair enough...I think Edwards is biding his time...remember...he only SUSPENDED his campaign. He may jump back in...or he's waiting to pick who he'll endorse. Or who he'll run with as Veep...Corrupt? Doubt it...Racist? Definitely not.
Could be that the reason he's keepin quiet, is maybe the DNC wants/needs him to.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

tim @ 42:

the "New Black Panther Party" has NOTHING to do with the Panthers. They almost OPPOSITE in their politics. The NBPP is Islamic black nationalist, the BPP was vehemently ANTI nationalist, secular, and basically marxist. The BPP tried to bridge gaps between all minorities - even including gays, at the time very radical - and welcomed whites in their cause. The two have NOTHING in common.

I am unfamiliar with the NBPP's politics but I do agree with ya about the BPP...they were cool.

ConcernedHusseinCanuck's picture

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 37:

ConcernedHusseinCanuck @ 30:

ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 29:

speaking of endorsements, isn't it fun to watch Edwards implode, as he's unable to endorse Obama (JE is from one of those southern states, where the typical white person don't much like uppity blacks)....

maybe his true believers will finally give him the credit he deserves, as an insider fraud (as Feingold once described him)

what a calculating superficial pathetic politician.....too much time in DC....too much time on the campaign trail...too much time in the hot tub...too much time foofing in the mirror

Does that not describe every presidential candidate? Nobody runs for Prez without the backing of a group of "good ol' boys" and special interests somewhere. The only candidate left that isn't pretending to change anything is McCain, and he can't remember what it is he is doing most of the time.

I beg to differ on Obama...he stands apart from the rest, including Mccain, if only because he hasn't been in DC long enough to've been bought....Obamas special interest group is the american public, the individuals sending him all that dough in 100 dollar increments (or less)

unless you're with the righties who think Obama is working for al qaeda and will represent the terrorist/muslim lobby when he gets into office...obamas contention that he'll change this is not pretend....and only those who stand to lose (clinton/mccain) want everybody to think it is....

This is where once more a comedian said it best. How do you know what any of these candidates thinks? Do you know them personally? Do you live with them?
I'm not trying to invalidate any political choice, or reduce any argument to racism, which has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with any of the candidates. It does nobody any good (terrible english I know) including whatever party you support, to talk like you personally know everything a candidate stands for. You don't. You don't know if he's the second coming of Jack The Ripper, anymore than people that think Hillary is the head biatch in America. Very few know any of these candidates on a personal level, and those that talk like that are hurting your own causes. Believe in a candidate's stands on issues, but don't pretend they are as close as family.
Oh and the comedian that basically stated it like that was Chris Rock.

The Political Junkie's picture

Obama's correct in rejecting the support of the New Black Panthers, because, unlike their original founders, all these guys do is rabble rouse and are not organized within their communities. In other words, flamethrowers.

They piss off the original Black Panthers, who could be credited for being positive influences in the community; helping out in schools, identifying why kids weren't performing well in school if being sent to school without breakfast or lunch (they started the free breakfast and lunch programs in public schools that the Federal Government coveted and took credit for) they protected the elderly from being robbed and having their property vandalized by thugs and other positive community involvement - which you will never hear of because a self-hating black guy named William O'Neal, recruited by the FBI as an informant, infiltrated the Black Panthers in Chicago and got their leader, Fred Hampton, killed by the FBI when they raided his apartment, after being falsely told by O'Neal that Hampton was stockpiling weapons.

O'Neal was told by the FBI to infiltrate and encourage criminal behavior among the Panthers, so all the good deeds they did would be discredited and forgotten.

For this treasonous behavior, O'Neal was paid the grand sum of $300. Even at 1969 prices, it still amounted to 30 pieces of silver, the discrediting of the original Black Panther party, and the loss of Fred Hampton's life as well as others.

O'Neal lived with his treachery for 20+ years before he committed suicide in 1990.

I know ex-Black Panthers, and they wish this group would go away and shut up. So, I can't fault Obama for rejecting their support, especially after the Wright controversy. He's gun-shy and will be until the entire election season is over.

greg's picture

36 foolme1ns is right. Or should I say Wright.

When are they going to come right out and say don’t vote for the[????] I watched FOX last night and they were going 100 percent. I mean, really fanning the Racist agenda. I am waiting for a picture of OJ to be put up against Obama (opps, don't give them ideas).

And then I watch Joe Scarborough this morning. Man, what a piece of shit. He said "I ran into a old whtie lady on the way home and the lady told why didn't Obama leave the church long ago if he is about good judgement". He always talk about how the blue collar worker feel when in reality its what he feels. Then he always surround himself with spinless people like Mika ("oh Joe, and stop Joe) and boot licking lackys like Tiki Barber who sit and smile while he spewes this garbbage.

And not the State Department shit.

Obama deserves better.

Barrett D's picture

enough media scrutiny for ya, hilary?

Shadowgm Hussein's picture

The differences between the BPP and the NBPP are less important than the tactics being employed by FOX News, which distill down to 'fear the black man' and 'fear the Islamics'.

It's helpful to know the history of the BPP, and its ideological differences with the NBPP, but while we're running around doing damage control and trying to explain the facts, FOX scores again - because their audience base doesn't give a rip about the facts. Never have.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

Shadowgm Hussein @ 50:

The differences between the BPP and the NBPP are less important than the tactics being employed by FOX News, which distill down to 'fear the black man' and 'fear the Islamics'.

It's helpful to know the history of the BPP, and its ideological differences with the NBPP, but while we're running around doing damage control and trying to explain the facts, FOX scores again - because their audience base doesn't give a rip about the facts. Never have.

Very good point!

Captain Kangaroo's picture

mudshark @ 31:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 28:

mudshark @ 23:

☻Bangkok Bob☻ @ 11: Mornin Bob....I myself like to Frist @500 or so........keeps people on their toes.

Evening Mudshark ... that's a good move, make it look as ludicrous as it is.
Did you see my post up there about the Falg Sitck Pins? We started it recently and now it is spreading to all the expats. every once in a while some jerk on vacation will try to give us shit about it, but, as you know, they can't defend their stand.

no I haven't heard of the flag pin thing,I've been on drugs lately.Vicoden,my neck.

Oh I feel your pain. I have a hang nail. Do you think you can send a couple Vicos to me. I think you have my email. Just send it there. Thanks.

Phillybits's picture

Do these people read what they write before hitting post?

Surber starts off that:

Obama Web site caught bragging about an endorsement by the “New Black Panthers Party.”

and then goes right into the FOX article that states:

“Barack Obama’s campaign has removed an endorsement by the New Black Panther Party from its Web site, one day after the Illinois senator delivered a speech calling for improved race relations in America.”

In what universe is removing an endorsement considered bragging?

charles hussein's picture
The Dude's picture

DC @ 10:

Now the GOP resorts to out right lies. Why should not the democrats just start lying about McCain? Just pay money to the right people and let the lies go.

"Now"?

In case you have not been paying attention the GOP hasn't said a truth in the better part of the past 4 decades at least...

Fanon's picture

Fox news....
First
On
Xenophobia

Lusmu's picture

Did you guys see Brian Kilmeade walk away in a huff after the other too buffoons didin't get his point about Obama on Fox & Friends this morning? And that Chris Wallace chastised the entire Fox & Friends team about Obama bashing?

Hilarious stuff.

sulphurdunn's picture

FOX should add a burning cross and maybe a white hood with stars and bars to its logo just to be certain its less than bright followers get the correct message.

Shadowgm Hussein's picture

sulphurdunn @ 58:

FOX should add a burning cross and maybe a white hood with stars and bars to its logo just to be certain its less than bright followers get the correct message.

Actually, their logo is right on target. Red, white, and blue - FOX News' faux patriotism. Flag pins. We're telling the truth, everyone else is a liar and hates America.

The con job is not to sweep up the less bright in their racist crap, but to hoodwink the average Joe into thinking this is a question of how much you love America.

Doug Alder's picture

I love how Faux News bashes the SPLC on a regular basis as a liberal mouthorgan but when convenient quotes them as a reliable source

Iron Mike Houston's picture

One of Barack's stories this week has my wondering about his truthfulness, the advice he is receiving and the media's job performance. He mentions a 9 year old named Ashley whose mother got cancer, lost her job, her medical benefits and files for bankruptcy. Ashley knew food costs were a big expense and decided to help out by volunteering to eat muster and relish sandwiches. She convinced her mother that was really what she wanted and did it for a year until her mother got better. I'm unsure why a mother or other family member would allow a child to eat muster and relish sandwiches for a year. It would be irresponsible.

Now she is 23, and she joined Barack's campaign so that she could help the millions of other children who want and need to help their parents (Barack's words). I'm not sure what that really means. She joined Barack's campaign to help children eat muster and relish sandwiches? Why didn't her mother receive SS benefits and food stamps? There seems to be a lot more to story since it seems very hokey and phony. I'm unsure why this story isn't being investigated by the media. Barack then said that Ashley could have blamed her mother's problems on blacks who are on welfare or illegals but she didn't. How could Ashley blame anyone for her mother's medical problems? Barack's story is totally illogical.

Why would Barack think the voters would swallow this story? Why didn't his advisors step in and advise him not to tell the voters this story? The story is full of holes and why did the media give him a free pass on the story? The press and media are to be the fourth branch of government but allow political candidates to tell obvious feel good, phony unchallenged stories to support their campaigns.

Karenina044's picture

We need to do a boycott on the sponsors of Fox News. These swiftboating tactics worked before. But we need to fight back and hit them in the pocket book. Free speech is one thing, but hate saturated propaganda is another. There is too much at stake for us to sit passively by and allow the uninformed electorate to vote based on fear.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

-- Joseph Goebbels

Dave's picture

Only reason Rush is behind Hilary is she wont beat mcCain. Ever

rustedspear's picture

Obama needs to keep fighting back against lame attacks against his patriotism.it is his biggest issue with the blind limbaugh, fox and cnn fed masses.

he need to fight back and point that he is trying to advance the conversation of race. I am black african immigrant and i went through a delusional militant person myself(inspired by the rape and destruction of my cultural fabric by colonialism). he could point out that many people struggle with anger and often try to blame others for their own personal issues. regardless of how we get to be in the hole we are in. it is our duty to dig ourselves out.

He needs an add featuring squeaky clean white supporters of reknown with working class cred voicing support for him. Richardson, Vicky eisenhower, daughter and scion of Dwight's line and a repuber is supporting him. so is lincoln Chafee one of the few or only repubs who voted against the war....people like this

they should say. he is for all americans.he is not running for pres to give handouts to people who lack personal responsibility. but for all the stand up people who work hard. he is here to make the government work hard for them. to help them keep their jobs. to reward the military families and vets for their sacrifice and bring a sensible and reasoned end to the war..

they should say he is not running for an old divisive america. but an america that treats all people with respect. where everyone accepts and fulfills their responsibilty to themselves, their community, their family and their country and expects the same from their government.

he needs a slew of people like this... respectable and thoughtful people to appear in an ad for him and voice their support openly... so those nitwits who cannot think for themselves will see who the choice of the thoughtful and informed is. and maybe then we can put these non-patriot, black panther, manchurian muslim demons to bed.

Shadowgm Hussein's picture

Iron Mike Houston @ 61:

I'm unsure why a mother or other family member would allow a child to eat muster and relish sandwiches for a year. It would be irresponsible.

You're really reaching for reasons to hate Obama, aren't you? How is a child, aware of a parent's circumstances and volunteering to eat less in order to save money (there is nothing to suggest that Ashley ate nothing but these sandwiches for three squares over an entire year) irresponsible? Go look at kids on the street - we're in the middle of an obesity crisis, and we've got kids living on fast food. How is that responsible?

Now she is 23, and she joined Barack's campaign so that she could help the millions of other children who want and need to help their parents (Barack's words). I'm not sure what that really means. She joined Barack's campaign to help children eat muster and relish sandwiches?

No, she's talking about children taking an active role in their families. When I was young, my mother wound up in a car accident (little old lady crossed the road and hit her car, Mom broke her wrist) - and my sisters and I had to chip in. We learned how to cook and take care of the laundry - skills that you eventually need in your adult life - rather than stand there dumbfounded and helpless.

Why didn't her mother receive SS benefits and food stamps? There seems to be a lot more to story since it seems very hokey and phony. I'm unsure why this story isn't being investigated by the media.

Ashley's mother may not have qualified for either. This is part of the problem with our healthcare system. And treatment for cancer costs a lot of money.

You're also making assumptions about what the media did and did not fact-check. If they verified the facts, then there's no story for the kind of sensationalist, tabloid-style expose pieces that you seem to think are merited here.

Barack then said that Ashley could have blamed her mother's problems on blacks who are on welfare or illegals but she didn't. How could Ashley blame anyone for her mother's medical problems? Barack's story is totally illogical.

Because conservatives routinely blame problems on an excess of low-income patients, along with illegal immigrants who are responsible for driving up costs and making it impossible for hard-working Americans to afford healthcare, find jobs, etc.

Why would Barack think the voters would swallow this story? Why didn't his advisors step in and advise him not to tell the voters this story? The story is full of holes and why did the media give him a free pass on the story?

The only holes are in your reasoning.

The press and media are to be the fourth branch of government but allow political candidates to tell obvious feel good, phony unchallenged stories to support their campaigns.

The term is 'fourth estate,' and is not meant to imply that the media is a legitimate or actual part of government. "Fourth branch" refers to Dick Cheney, who implied that his person and office are outside the Executive Branch.

all hail the hypno toad's picture

Aren't Quakers also labeled an extreme hate group by the bushits? Judging by what wingnuts call extreme hate groups, that should be an honor.

ezpz's picture

Looks like they're eating their own over at Fox:

Fox's Chris Wallace Criticizes Own Network For "Two Hours Of Obama Bashing"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/foxs-chris-wallace-criti_n_9274...

BlueIndependent's picture

FNC bolstering their crap by using the SPLC as a shield. HA HA HA!

I wouldn't be surprised if SPLC has FNC listed as a racist organization; they sure as hell deserve it.

Dot's picture

Ashley's mother may very well have had insurance. Insurance only covers 80% of a lot of treatments. 20% of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of dollars, is...a lot.

Also, my parents divorced when I was nine and my mom and my sister and I were very poor. I convinced mom I "wasn't hungry" a lot so she would eat. And she told me she "liked" sleeping on the couch so me and my sister could have our own rooms. That's what families do. I'm sorry for you if you don't know that.

Dot's picture

Iron Mike Houston @61: I forgot to mention, I'm sure that we did qualify for at least food stamps, although my mom did have a job and very small child support for one child. My mom was so proud we would have starved to death before she would have taken it. She was proud, hard working woman all her life, and that was "taking charity," only for lazy bums with no self respect, or people who were really bad off, not her. You can look down your nose at proud poor people all you like, but you can't take our dignity.

unsurebtwilling's picture

I heard somethings that the NBPP spouted out and they can be over the top as for the SPLC I use to get mailings saying that the hate groups were on the rise ( when in fact they were disappearing) and after reading a few articles about the center and what a former founding member said about it's MAIN purpose is I think it's just a way to get money from fearful whites to line their own pockets

Hey-captain's picture

The NBPP is identified as an extremist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center

Isn't Fox News an extremist hat group??????

RickinSF's picture

This item, combined with Joe Scarborough's assertion that "O'bama threw his grandma under the bus" in his recent speech, makes me think we have a new category for a Keith Olberman segment:

Call it: "Grasping at Straws" the weekly rundown of pathetic attempts by desperate rightwing hacks to get some mud to stick on those they don't like.

kravitz's picture

Fox feeling a little apoplectic?

"My Last Word on Obama, I Promise." by author of "The Bell Curve," Charles Murray
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM4MjJkYmNhMjM5MjQ1YzVhNzhjMTE...
"To all my friends and people I admire who have completely befuddled me with their reaction to Obama’s speech: Speaking or writing about difficult race problems is different from speaking or writing about any other public policy issue. If you take a position on the Iraq war or health care, you will attract reaction from people who say you’re crazy, but they will be responding to what you actually said and, more or less, to how you actually meant it. The same is not true of race. Text that deals with a difficult racial issue is like a Rorschach ink blot. People project onto that text—project their own experiences, anxieties, angers; all the emotions that go into thinking about race, which means all the emotions that exist. You can weigh every word of your text. You can rewrite it until you think there is absolutely no way that a fair-minded person can fail to understand what you said. And they will not only fail to understand it, they will accuse you of saying exactly the opposite of what you said."

then, he tries to regain some redcred.

"I can’t vote for him. He is an honest-to-God lefty. He apparently has learned nothing from the 1960s."

but wait...we're almost the same age. he would have been eight at the end of the decade!

"But the other day he talked about race in ways that no other major politician has tried to do, with a level of honesty that no other major politician has dared, and with more insight than any other major politician possesses. Not bad."

mudshark @ 19:

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

don't feel bad,cause your not the only one who got duped by their BS.Attacking someone's sense of patriotism should be a crime. I sentence you to buy a Dem(of your choice) a six pack of good beer and to finish it with them.

Aw man, that's mean - buy a dem some beer and then drink it on them. Buy a dem 6-pack and then drink your own damn beer ; )

Shadowgm Hussein's picture

kravitz @ 73:

Fox feeling a little apoplectic?

Did you mean schizophrenic? Apoplectic is sputtering with outrage, which is Bill-O's usual state.

skitob's picture

mudshark @ 19:

Sha_Rules @ 12:

I have a confession to make:

I voted for George Bush :(

don't feel bad,cause your not the only one who got duped by their BS.Attacking someone's sense of patriotism should be a crime. I sentence you to buy a Dem(of your choice) a six pack of good beer and to finish it with them.

Anyone who voted for GWB, especially TWICE, should not be allowed to vote due to poor judgment. sorry.

steve-o's picture

Sean Hannity is one of the biggest racial alarmists in the MSM. I mean using a member of the NBPP as a representative of sentiment in the black community is crazy! There's probably plenty of white families in the middle of Wyoming, the Dakotas, and other mostly white regions who watch that crap and believe that all blacks want to take it to "whitey". Damn. Maybe I should go to websites like VDare and Stormfront to gauge mainstream opinion among whites! LOL!

ysbaddaden's picture

The Black Panthers Party has basically disavowed the New Black Panthers.

The former group used firey rheotoric but offered all kinds of social services including feeding the hungry.

The latter group show up at local school board meetings to basically grandstand.

It's like the difference between The Avengers and The New Avengers.

ysbaddaden's picture

Shadowgm Hussein @ 77:

kravitz @ 73:

Fox feeling a little apoplectic?

Did you mean schizophrenic? Apoplectic is sputtering with outrage, which is Bill-O's usual state.

So who are the Four Horsemen of the Apoplexy?

Ronp's picture

The FOX folks are not dumb; to the contrary just evil and cunning. They're becoming aware of a backlash gathering steam to expose the depth of their attempts to influence the election through for one the creation and distribution of the specifically selected snippets of Rev. Jeremiah Wright we've all been inundated with the past week.

Alas, an opportunity arises for the media to do what their profession expects from them; search for the truth, report it and take to task colleagues who threaten the integrity of the profession.

Below are links to the Christmas Day 2007 Sermon at Trinity Church of Christ by Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Jr., which FOX News acquired and disingenuously used to intentionally create a false and unrepresentative caricature of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr., and by association Barack Obama. This was the service with the Hillary comment towards the end of the sermon. Below that is a link to a web site composed of Trinity sermons illustrating Sen. Obama's characterization of Rev. Wright to contrast with FOX's for you to use your own God given discernment.

Unfortunately people are too lazy to think critically any more, and continue to fall prey to news commentators with extreme mal intent who continue to treat us as immature children who allow others to think for us.

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdfbWSJINhg

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVeK0JDPm8Y

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o36KBeDXJ8

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQAQVcn89A

and http://www.youtube.com/user/TRINITYCHGO

tek's picture

Wait, I thought you guys are siding with Faux News today? Flip flop!

tek @ 83:

Wait, I thought you guys are siding with Faux News today? Flip flop!

What a simplistic sentiment. Let's see, Site agrees with some actions of FOX, but not other actions=Flip Flop. Is that your sad little idea of pwned?

Pathetic little trollage on your part. If you read the posts, I'm sure you'd find it's all very consistent.

I wish there was a 'dumbarse' filter.

Marie Willard's picture

I would just ask you to google Obama/Black Panther and see how he has been connected I found it very interesting. Once you start googling, check out International Socialist Connection, Nadhimi Auchi, Tony Rezco, Woods Fund Organization, AAAN, PNA<PLO<Louis Farrakkan, Frank Marshall, Bill Ayers, John Herber Muhammed Democatic Socialists of America. Also read the ten points of the new black panthers and the aim of Obamas church. Then, and only then, can you get a good idea of what this man is. Not my choice. I would rather not vote, at least until the next election, that is if there IS a next election.

Marie Willard's picture

Marie Willard @ 85:

I would just ask you to google Obama/Black Panther and see how he has been connected I found it very interesting. Once you start googling, check out International Socialist Connection, Nadhimi Auchi, Tony Rezco, Woods Fund Organization, AAAN, PNA<PLO<Louis Farrakkan, Frank Marshall, Bill Ayers, John Herber Muhammed Democatic Socialists of America. Also read the ten points of the new black panthers and the aim of Obamas church. Then, and only then, can you get a good idea of what this man is. Not my choice. I would rather not vote, at least until the next election, that is if there IS a next election.

John Kooms's picture

Hey Marie , if you're legitimate ? Be careful what you read and then believe , , there are professional investigators who's full time job is to dig up trash and make connections , a google search isn't going to expose anything true that hasn't been exposed and if there was or is anything scandolous believe me they would be all over it and we'd know about it . I've read some "shocking stories" only to investigate who the site belongs to and where the story comes from , not always but it usually turns out to be right wing low life and a load of BS , just like some of the frauds who post here . Look at Obama's endorsements , these guys are not fools or amateurs .

Marie Willard's picture

John, thanks for the advise. I am careful about what I read and I will go further to verify the information. One thing I am sure of is Obamas Global Poverty Bill. I have read it and if it is passed it will put our children in debt an additional 800 billion dollars. The money will go to agencies throughout the world to bring people up to a living wage and help the children of the world. It will do nothing for the children here at home. In fact, the US is not elgible for any of these funds. Like it our not we have starving children, homeless children and people who's unemployment has run out *(these people don't count on the statistics as lbeing unemployed). I worked for in Social Services for many years and I know that in order to get help you have to leave your husband, get a job, leave your children, or stay together and move out of your mobile home because the lot rent is too expensive and find an apartment for 300 per month. On top of the billions of dollars this war is costing us we will have this to contend with. The 800 billion is on top of what we are paying now. It is predicted that gasoline will raise up to $1.00 per gallon to help gather this money. It is hard to understand how this money is necessary elsewhere when Floods and other tragedies need our attention here at home. Charity begins at home.

republicanSScareme's picture

The Republican Party is The American Nazi Party and FauxNews is it's mouthpiece.

Any questions, class?

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