Cheney on 4000 American Dead: "They Volunteered."
How's that for "supporting the troops"?
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This part absolutely kills me. Who bears the burden of this war? The soldiers and their families who lose sleep every night praying their loved ones don't get blown up? Or President Bush, who sleeps soundly in the safest environment possible, isolated as could be from the horrors of war? What say you, Dick?
Noting the burden placed on military families, the vice president said the biggest burden is carried by President George W. Bush, who made the decision to commit US troops to war, and reminded the public that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan volunteered for duty.
And when confronted with the reality of stop loss -- the policy that send soldiers back three or four times past their original obligations -- Cheney predictably takes a page from 9iu11ani playbook and plays the 9/11 card:
"A lot of men and women sign up because sometimes they will see developments. For example, 9/11 stimulated a lot of folks to volunteer for the military because they wanted to be involved in defending the country."
I can only speak for myself here, but I reckon that many of the brave young men and women who volunteered after 9/11 did so with the expectation that they would be hunting down those that actually attacked us that day; not that they would be put in an impossible situation (in a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with the attack on us) where they are expected to mediate a religious civil war that has raged for thousands of years. In fact, it's a disservice to their heroic sacrifice to expect them to do so. Then again, people like Dick Cheney and George Bush know absolutely nothing about heroism and sacrifice.
IMPEACH AND CONVICT CHENEY THE TERRORIST!
Classic buck passing from the dickster.
Well, they did. Hopefully the young people now see how crazy these people are and stay away from the military. Although somehow I don't think thats going to happen.
Yes.. They did.
The Real Hussein @ 3:
They did because they were LIED to.
I really can't hate that guy enough. He's a clinical sociopath so, as we've all seen, he's immune to any criticism.
Volunteers for 3+ tours? Don't think so....
Shorter Dick Cheney: "Fuck 'em!"
Let's parse this out a bit. I'm digesting it now but the word "folks" has struck a chord. He knows what it is to what it means to be a "folk" let alone a human being. Help me out would ya'.
below_me @ 5:
I bet they all saw "Born on the 4th of July".
They should have known better.
One fcuked-up 'human being'.
I can't even think of words to express how much this man disgusts me. If there were any kind of justice he would be forced to recite the names of every American soldier who's died in this war from his jail cell...every day. It disgusts me even more that the people who actually have the opportunity to possibly do something about this....do nothing.
ruthless uncaring, self serving, be content with the knowledge that this poor excuse for a human being does in no way represent us. how long until those he portends to govern turn on him?
Cas @ 4:
I highly doubt many would have had they been told, "You're gonna be part of an imperialist foreign policy, you won't be given adequate equipment, you'll be an occupying force, hated by the people of that land, and defense contractors will electrocute you while reaping huge profits at taxpayer expense." They were probably told they'd be going after OBL and they could go to college when they got back.
Speaking of sleeping well at night, don't forget Rumsfeld's revelation of what kept him awake at night, that being how the press handles the news about the war.
Yeah, these 18 year old kids kids who are poor and have no prospects, and are sold on this idea of "glory" by recruiters--it is all their fault that they have bought into the idea of being cannon fodder so Cheney and his huntin' buds can make millions in oil. I am so proud tobe an 'merican!
I can't even find the words to express what I feel about Bush and Cheney. I can only hope that when they leave the confort of the offices they occupy, that justice will move in on them, like a ton of bricks.
'Then again, people like Dick Cheney and George Bush know absolutely nothing about heroism and sacrifice.'
They certainly know about Imperial war profits.
In 2001 if they had actually gone after, and gotten bin Laden in Afghanistan as they could have done, the immediate and correct suggestion would have been: we got the guy that did it, case closed.
Instead, it was bait and switch. Don't go after the guy that did it, if you were to get him, you would have to go home. Iraq has oil, go there.
Endless war for endless war profits. And enormous profits they are.
Bollox Ref @ 10:
Human Being?
Satan doesn't spawn human beings, only soul-less mini satans.
Cas @ 4:
Expanding on Chris' post...
And you would volunteer to join the military knowing that, say, next month we announce that we're giving Russia six months to cut their nuclear arsenal in half, or face invasion, because, you know, they are a threat to our security and to the region, and "might" attack us in the future.
Who in their right mind can even stand to watch this fucking excuse for a human being talk...it honestly makes me fucking nauseous......
wait just a second.
How old does SilentPatriot think Islam is, anyhow? This old meme about "timeless, endless war" is half of what keeps the tomfoolery going on. Yes, it's true that we have no business sticking our armored heads into their business, but is correct representation of the situation too much to ask? It sure doesn't seem like Shi'a and Sunni were busily killing each other like this when the Ottomans were running the show, or even before that.
Chris @ 13:
Probably the reason why education in the US is so poor.
You've got to keep them dumb about the world, and specially history.
As low life and criminal as they come , one disgusting pathetic human being and our VP , what the F happened to you America ?
Cheney on 4000 American Dead: “They Volunteered.”
And you didn't. That says it all, f*cker.
They volunteered but, Dick Cheney, when asked to serve in Vietnam, had "other priorities".
the vice president said the biggest burden is carried by President George W. Bush
This reminds me of Harry Whittington saying how sorry he was for what Dick Cheney and his family "had to go through" after Cheney shot him in the face.
To PatrickD
You really think by reciting the names of the fallen is enough?
First, collect all the money stolen by halliburton and the subsidiaries for compensation.
Secondly, with each of those facts charge them appropiately.
We must defend the laws of the land ie....the Constitution.
I shocked everyday there is not his obituary on the news. The callous disregard for the dead soldiers...you'd think it'd get to someone.
i wonder how many people would volunteer for jury duty at this war criminals trial.
Just in case anybody was starting to think that The Dick couldn't possibly be a bigger asshole than he has in the past, we get this interview. "what would you do in this situation, Martha?" Hey, she never said she had the answers, and she didn't get us into this "last throes" clusterfuck, so quit deflecting, Dick.
I think that Dick showed amazing bravery by agreeing to be interviewed by ABC news, as opposed to his usual Rush Limbaugh or Fox News appearances. He is one courageous dickhead isn't he?
" Volunteer! Who? Me!? "
Poor chainy! Probably missed his big chance because of knew someone had to stay behind and send out waves of love and compassion for another dick, Nixon.
Us pulling our forces out of Iraq is like Afghanistan which lead to 911? WTF!?!? Does this sick fuck think for 2 seconds that this "logic" will make sense to people? I'm sorry, it's Dick. He doesn't care if it makes any sense to you. You do what we (I) tell you to and fuck off.
There has never been a more impeachable person in public office.
Yea... he's getting ahead of the historical curve here... by saying the Pres. is carrying the biggest burden... so that HISTORY won't blame him (Cheney) for any of the bad stuff they've done.
See... is his mind... if he sez it... then it must be true.
john in california @ 32:
Christ, even Nixon had the decency to resign.
I thought this site was crooks and liars, we get the clips of crooks. eg. Cheney, Rove, but what about the liars, or "misspeakers" like Clinton about snipergate?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/finally.html
Thanks John, Nichole, and Silent.
The last draft sucked, as it killed 3 million Vietnamese.
However, we are now at 1/3 of that in Iraq. So basically, it can’t get much worse then it is now.
So lets be in favor of a draft. The fasted way of ending this madness, as no rich kid would wanna go.
When Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer, George C. Wilson, interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." Cheney testified during his confirmation hearings in 1989 that he received deferments to finish a college career that lasted six years rather than four, owing to sub par academic performance and the need to work to pay for his education. Initially, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was only taking older men. When he became eligible for the draft, he applied for four deferments in sequence. He applied for his fifth exemption on January 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant. He was granted 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.
Nobody is happy about losing lives but remember these are not draftees, these are full-time professional soldiers. -Sen. Mitch McConnell
Fuck both cheney and bush - and the horses they rode in on!
These two, who are a true waste of skin and bones, are no less than the worse of war criminals, and deserve to be charged, tried and sentenced.
The usual sentences for such crimes should apply, and should be carried out in full view of the White House, and with a full television audience.
The country, and the world would cheer long and loud, easily drowning out the "snap" of the ropes used.
Instead of recognizing the ultimate sacrifice, Cheney hides their coffins.
Wottafucker.
Let's ask Cheney to "volunteer" (using the military definition) to go fight in Iraq.
OK @ 31:
What are you talkin' about disney is one of the most reliable lying liars in the MSM, and they are not even officially part of the military-industrial complex like NBC. I bet, however, that there are some interlocking directors and that major players in disney own large blocks of the military-industrial complex too.
they volunteered for STOP LOSS?
interesting.
Evil.
Soldiers volunteered to join the military to defend this nation, not to illegally invade other nations. Many of the people in the military volunteered before the megalomaniacs in power today were appointed by the Supreme Court. They had no way of knowing America would violate its own and International laws to invade a sovereign Nation.
These soldiers are not defending the country. They may think they are, and the majority of Americans think they are (and are conditioned to think that way)
but what they are really doing is enforcing EMPIRE.
They are hired muscle.
What a delusional Dick with a repugnant values system.
He and Dubya Gump will send many more young soldiers to their death before they get tossed out (to make speeches for big bucks, lobby for arms manufacturers, play golf, and shoot ducks).
If you are able to, *please* send ten bucks to the Obama (or Hillary) campaign. Or volunteer. And get out the vote with all your friends and acquaintances who have a clue. These are some of the things we can do beyond reading political blogs. We don't need another clueless old fart fucking up our country for 8 more years.
A free trip to the International War Crimes Court in the Hague for Bsu, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Feith, Wolfowitz and all the rest.
These guys are the worst Americans in American history.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 46:
the only thing missing is the concentration camps.
Silent Patriot hits the nail on the head. Many did sign up after 9/11 to fight those that attacked us and yes they are volunteers in that sense. They did not sign up to get killed for oil or to make a few people richer. They got transferred out of Afghanistan and into Iraq and they had no choice in the matter. That is not a volunteer.
HDon @ 28:
I was thinking the same thing.
Altho, back in '04 Cheney's motorcade went by as we were campaigning and marching with "Kerry" signs and they kept us at a two block distance from him. It's probably FOUR blocks now!
Maybe one day we all will be relieved of the presence of this thing, Dick Cheney. He's had five deferred heart attacks, perhaps the sixth will take him and he'll go and meet his master, Lucifer. Leave this existence, sir, please. The rest of humanity has no further need to have you cluttering up the planet.
Cheney volunteered to defend the constitution and the law of the land... didn't he?
Truth B Told @ 50:
Oh, no they're not!
Naturally,the common people don't want war,but they can always be brought to the of the leaders.tell them they are being attacked,and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and and endangering the country.It works the same in every country.
Herman Goering.
Charles @ 54:
It is plain he is not dying to do that!
He is truly trash. I couldn't see the rest of the video because it doesn't have to be this way. Impeach the two and then
I thought this site is called crooks and liars for a reason, to expose crooks and liars. I see the posts about crooks, e.g. Cheney, Rove,
But what about the liars (or should I say misspeaker) like HRC and snipergate.
Even the MSM is covering it now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pef5AUt-tic&feature=related
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 55:
yes, I know. Halliburton camps. But those are for the illegal aliens.
but at least they didn't have a Reichstag event.
Joe @ 56:
Herman Goering is one of those "giants" this administration stands on the shoulders of.
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I wonder about the money trail from Halliburton etc. I wonder about the money trail from the opium coming out of Afghanistan. I wonder about the money trail from the looting of the antiquities museum in Baghdad - the contents of which would have been worth billions - some folks have made squillions while others go broke and live on the street. Yeah, loads of folks volunteered to be homeless, limbless...
How can these people sleep at night?
hey Dick..F you..
Truth B Told @ 59:
StCyrlyMe2 @ 16:
Loathsome? Mendacious? Shameless? Self-serving? Conscience-free? Deceitful? In contempt of humanity? Anti-American? Inhumane?
No - you're right.
Words are not enough.
Lynda Hussein from DownUnder @ 62:
because they are psychopaths. and the psychopaths infect the Democratic party too.
Political Ponerology
None of our dead American soldiers volunteered to be ducks in an endless civil war shooting gallery.
Dick Cheney belongs in prison for the rest of his malignant life. Let us all work to send him there.
Truth B Told @ 59:
I was refering to Gitmo, Abu Graihb and all the secret ones we don't know the names of.
the man should be punished for his crimes.
It's official. Dick is the biggest asshole to occupy the office of the vice president since Aaron Burr.
And it's possible I'm being unfair to Burr.
War profiteer! Vote out Pelosi, get a new speaker who will be willing to go after these guys.
pp @ 58:
I thought we were discussing Cheney here. wtf
Could you lay off the woman for ONE day?? Oh, I guess since the MSM went after Obama last week
about his minister, this week it's Hillary's turn. Yup, she mis-spoke, lied even. Let's hang her.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 68:
They clearly had their Reichstag event. Probably not fully intended, but the result was the same.
"Well first of all, fuck you" sneer, sneer.....
it figures. someone's got a totally serious question they need answered , "Who bears the burden of this war?"
and who do they go to, to answer it?
the biggest dick they can find.
Lynda Hussein from DownUnder @ 62:
By having no functioning conscience.
Because they reject the very idea of "the common good", conservatives are congenitally unable to comprehend the difference between "public service" and "public property".
A slaveholder mentality, right down to the bone.
Truth B Told @ 68:
Yep - agreed. It appears that there are far more psychopaths in society than we might realise.
Vote Democrat. That will change everything. No longer will we have to withstand poliricians that harm our country without apology. With Democrats in office, politicians will still vote for war, the Patriot Act, and the like - but they will grovel and apologize after every time they do...
they're not just folks, they're real people. or were. check here - http://www.nytimes.com/ref/us/20061228_3000FACES_TAB1.html and you can see the faces their loved ones only now see in pictures.
What does that say for the character of George Bush and Dick Cheney. BOTH were of an age to go to war and fight for our country. Bush dodged the chance by disappearing for a whole year, when he was going to be deployed to Viet Nam.
Dick Cheney refused to even volunteer. How does he now have the nerve to blame the military themselves because they volunteered.What kind of men do we have running this country.
I respect a guy like Pat Tilman, who signed up after 9/11 to serve his country.
But I'm pretty sure Pat Tilman, were he alive and had the opportunity, would put his foot right up Cheney's ass.
America has many heroes. Dick "five deferments" Cheney is not one of them.
@70 Den: yes, you are being unfair. Burr kiled Hamilton in a duel, which was a fair fight, except that Hamilton probably used pistols with a trick hair trigger to gain an unfair advantage, which backfired. So, Cheney has never had as much honor as Burr, or even as much courage as either Burr or Hamilton.
I don’t won’t to nit pick but I have a 22 inch wide screen monitor and I can’t read a long sentence without shifting the page over even when I increase my resolution! Can you readjust it on your end? Thanks!
I myself get hysterical when the commander guy and decider falls off a goddamn bike, smacks himself in the head with brush, dances for McCain and acts like a buffoon. I can not imagine a life tougher than being a goddamn moron. It's a down right tragedy.
Someone hand me some kleenex. Make it box, I'm totally tear stained and snotty crying for Bush. I can't believe he actually survived not being killed nor wounded by his own ineptness. He's so fucking brave!
Poor Cheney, him with his bum ticker having to live without being killed or wounded by his own ineptness as well. It's the saddest two fucking lives I've seen. Those two poor poor picked on over burdened assholes.
Everyone of those men and women volunteers are braver and better Americans than you Dick Cheney you cowardly cretaceous curmudgeon.
BTW They are volunteers until they sign their contract and take their oath. After that they are indentured to the military for 6 years,3 years active and 3 years reserve.
Fucking Idiot!
The next headline should be:
Cheney on his 6th Heart Attack: "My heart volunteered."
Jesus God.
Just when I thought it was not possible for this arsewipe to make himself more loathsome.
There are no limits to this 'man's' repulsiveness. He is a black hole of humanity.
the face of pure evil.
"Noting the burden placed on military families, the vice president said the biggest burden is carried by President George W. Bush"
Indeed, when both he and his chimperor are impeached and then indicted and convicted of war crimes, this will then be true, as it should be!
Times were hard in Tecumseh Valley.
So they signed up.
I'd love to slap the smirk off Cheney's face.
Is a crack there that I see – can anybody waterboard this parasite?
Now Dick, you forgot the mercenaries and the coalition forces that all along with the “volunteers” work hard to the developments you saw in Iraq on 9/11. Right?
I am not an American citizen. But every time I hear that man open his mouth and spew the garbage that comes out it makes my blood run absolutely cold. Mr chenny I think you are a gutless coward
They sure as hell didn't volunteer for 3 and 4 tours. These assholes have broken our army...
How can the world take seriously a man who "had a few beers" for lunch, shot an old guy in the face with a shotgun, sent a friend out to lie about it, then doesn't tell the boss for 48 hours?
If they are still in power after all of this horror and arrogance , then we deserve them.
4000 Suckers who allowed a criminal idiot-in-chief & his gang to use them as volunteered cannon-fodders.
Can't blame the a-hole Cheney for his dismissive comments, the suckers should have placed more value on their own lives & protected it by refusing to be used by liars & thieves.
"They volunteered."
Unlike you, sir, who took five deferments.
Which meant five others went in your place.
"I am struck continually..."
Yeah...you oughta be!
I still think it`s going to be pretty interesting to watch what happens after this scum, including the Chimp, Rumsfeld, Rice, Addington, Powell, etc., leave office. I still firmly believe they can be charged and sued by the public at large. there is more than enough proof these fucked - up human beings used their position in office to rape the USA. Ironically they are not finished yet. Under the right conditions, I think Powell with whatever conscience he has left will squeal like a pig. Don`t forget there is still a case building up on Kissinger for all his vile and wicked deeds in the past. After that Pinochet debacle in England he is careful where he travels.
Hey, what's with the tits and ass at the top of the main page ("Girls with web cams")?
Tip for Clinton or Obama.
The first one of you to suggest in the next debate
Pelosi and Reid should both be replaced gets my vote.
jeezus K Ryst... you lose a little bit of your soul every second that you watch that blood-sucking coward jabber on in his sanctimonious monotone.
On another site I kept hearing that dicky boy is going to hell, I hope not I want this sob reincarnated because he will be a lower form of life ( he can't get much lower) and if there is nothing after he sheds his skin for the last time ( no offense reptiles) he better be cremated because his plot will either be a superfund site or disacreted by those he scarred for life
Steve E @ 102:
Nothing would give me more joy than to see some ballsy little country grab one of these cocksuckers and haul them off to the Hague. Bastards, every one of them, bastards.
Next question Dick. With the projected costs of this fiasco headed towards 3 Trillion dollars where the fuck is Bin Laden?
There has got to be a special room in hell reserved for this sonofabitch to keep him from contaminating all the ordinary sinners.
Comments, Mr. McCain? Agree with the Vice President?
Now that our treasured civic institutions have been systematically marginalized and denigrated,
and the treasury ransacked, and the shadowy figures use their vague and subtle threats to chill us out...
they will now dump this mess they've created onto us.
You and me, liberal and conservative, gay and straight, black and white. We will bear the brunt of this.
And worse.
That's just the way it's scripted.
It's just business.
NOTHING PERSONAL.
What does it say about all of US that we have THIS administration?!
Cheney is looking to win a lifetime achievement award.
Biggest. Asshole. Ever.
I think he's got an excellent chance at it.
Will someone please stick a Cheney in this guy's mouth already?!?
this assholes actually said "Sometimes you have to commit military force" and why didn't this bitch say "And this time you didn't!"
chervilant @ 112:
it says that Apathy Kills!
cheney is the only person on the planet that can give me warm fuzzy thoughts about charles manson by comparison.
Knowing how good our US military performs in any situation...
If those 4000 soldiers were "hunting down those that actually attacked us that day", well, I'd say that Cheney wouldn't be alive to give this interview.
If we had half the mettle of our Founding Fathers, we would hang this traitor with rusty piano wire ASAP
Truth B Told @ 52:
They're built and ready to go for whenever Bush enacts Order 51. Google "FEMA camps".
Maldoror @ 64:
Thanks for messing up the tables.
9-11 was caused by turning away from Afghanistan? Nothing to do with having bases in Saudi. Nothing to do with overthrowing Iranian democratic elected leader and replacing with a tyrant. Nothing to do with supporting Iraq's own tyrant years before we overthrow him. Nothing to do with supporting and funding Palestinian apartheid.
If our a journalist, a real one, do you let this kind of revisionism go on and on? I guess you don't get another interview. Then I guess the network is spurned. Then I guess we can start to figure out a big reason why the MSM is so lame at being the gatekeepers of real democracy.
Cheney is the definition of an Orwellian terrorist. May we be strong and wise enough to use this guy as the template for how not to govern.
chervilant @ 112:
No, I don`t think the American people should shoulder very much of the blame for the appalling conspiracy perpetrated against them. Remember the stolen election. Then we got royally fucked over by most of the media who it seemed, allowed ever lie to be rammed down our throats. We were duped and most of us, including the rest of the world will pay and pay in blood and money.
If I didn't hear it with my own ears, i wouldn't have believed it. I am getting ready for my 3rd tour in less than 2 years.
I just got back from Afghanistan in Janurary and I was immediately handed my packet for Iraq for May of this year. Maybe if he walked a mile in my shoes and experienced it firsthand, then maybe just maybe, he would think before he speaks.
UFB!
Can somebody name me one instance during his 7 years as vice-president that he has opened his mouth and not come across as the biggest asshole in the world?
On that note, please stand for this moment of silence to commemorate the sacrifice and dedication of our own, George W. Bush.
Van140 @ 123:
Take Care Dear Soldier.Please Take Care.
LIAR
The Real Hussein @ 3:
The US mil is having major problems filling uniforms, educated kids with career choices (and well to do families) do not want to go die or be maimed in some far away hellhole,
of course kids in rural 'no job' towns have little choice, minimum wage and boredom or sign up.
The local radio station was going on today about how the bulk of the soldiers are from country rather than urban areas.
How many rural towns today are merely a shell of their former selves, and now nothing but 'the wally world' and surrounding pseudo shanty town.
Maldoror @ 64:
Thanks for making this page unreadable, BTW.
You know, he might do better in opinion polls if he at least tried to feign a bit of interest in the lives he's destroying.
If I see that bottom row of teeth again it will be too soon. The very sight of him makes me think about decay.
Cheney does not really give a rats A$$ for our brave troops. Cheney and Bush just want a secure Iraq for their Oil buddies.
We as taxpayers are footing the bill and our troops are dying just so Oil companies can make record profits. If people really knew
all the crimes committed by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice in direct bidding for the oil companies impeachment would take about one week and nobody would
be voting not to impeach. Bush/Cheney are the worst President/VP in the history of our great country.
I honestly cannot fathom how someone could be so uncaring and callous towards the people they send to do their fighting for them. Guttless cowards. I wish I believed in hell and not that I'm simply living it.
How’s that voluntary sunburn working out for you, DICK?
If he’s too stupid to use SPF1000 with that pasty white Wyoming
skin while fishing the Arabian Sea or wherever the hell he was,
then how are we ever gonna listen to ya, DICKIE? HOW???
chet @ 130:
but, but... think of the legacy
Think of it as a scientific experiment to see how worst they can be, or a massive Congressional MSM practical joke.
You take a bunch of cokehead dry alcoholic has beens, put them in smart suits and
placevote them into the top jobs...November 08 is the judgment day, American Idol style they get voted off, and laughed into the dustbin of history.
Steve E @ 125:
Thanks Steve,
I'm pretty sure that if I had a face to face meeting with the Vice President, and I told him my story, he would just look at me and say..."So?"
Despicable son of a bitch.
Sound familiar?
Pupils 'lured' into armed forces
Teachers are accusing the Ministry of Defence of using "sophisticated" methods to lure youngsters, often in deprived areas, into the armed forces.
National Union of Teachers delegates in Manchester will debate a motion later calling for an end to "recruitment" in schools in England and Wales.
Teachers say pupils are not made fully aware of what they are signing up to.
lafingas @ 86:
I guess not, Thanks for nothing!
We had a Marine recruiter call our house to talk to our 18 year old son.
My wife had answered the phone and she told him "do not under any circumstance call this house again". We have a younger son and a nephew living with us, so I know if any recruiter calls and I answer I'll just turn the phone over to her and enjoy the fireworks.
Interesting trying to find words to describe it. I vote for one above...conscious free.
Pretty much sums it up in a few words. Charles Manson with money.
They volunteered. He didn't.
Radically Moderate @ 138:
Cold calling homes or direct marketing to children is one step too far in recruitment, esp if they start using psychological techniques on kids.
with all the war films and material that entertains populations, there shouldnt be much problem for recruitment if they offer benefits.
Theres always going to be people who like playing grown up gun games, competent policy and benefits should work enough if honest.
Dick Cheney is a monster; he is genuinely evil individual who will some day receive his true reward. Just don't think about that what that might be, you may never get a good night's sleep again
I don't get it.
I'm not an Obama supporter (my pick was Edwards), but was floored at the response over something his pastor said years ago, in comparison to this.
This piece of shit excuse for a human being (Cheney) says the most callous, despicable things -- repeatedly -- in our nation's face and nary a peep or outrage.
This HAS to be something more than just the masses reacting to corporate-controlled news or conditioning. There's something far deeper, more disturbing at the national level.
Do we simply not give a collective shit about our soldiers and young people who are dying EVERYDAY??!! Have we become that desensitized to suffering, misery and death?
This isn't the America I've known in my 50 years of life.
Well gee THANKS Mr. 5 deferments! We really appreciate you and Mr. deserter too! And geee we'd really love to have Mr. mcsurrender be Mr. deserters successor!
This country needs a "draft from the top" policy, and require the President and Vice President to send their children, who are of age, to fight along with the rest of the troops.
Maybe leaders wouldn't be so quick to send troops in then.
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Number of Operations Iraq Freedom and Enduring Freedom casualties
as confirmed by U.S. Central Command: 4462
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What Richard B. Cheney meant was:
"... SO?"
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can someone delete #64?
this page is unbearable to read.
Worst piece of human scum on this earth! He needs to get the fuck out of the U.S. after Jan 2009. and take his millions of dollars from the Middle East oil criminals!
Be careful, it isn't exactly a "religious civil war that has raged for thousands of years". Your blog rules, but I think this is hyperbole. Muhammad was only born around 570, so thats not exactly since the beginning of time. In addition, other factors such as the legacy of colonialism and economic pressures play a major role as well. I agree that its not our battle and that we shouldn't be there, but please don't insinuate that Iraqis are only moved by the factor of Islam. As usual, Islam is not a problem in and of itself, but only within a socio-political climate that has been created by a convergence of forces over many years. Awesome blog.
What an asshole! That's about the best I can do for this architect of our Imperial Presidency.
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