Iraq coming apart at the seams: 'al-Sadr's civil disobedience order'
By John Amato Monday Mar 24, 2008 3:45pm
Kyra Phillips of CNN paints a grim picture of the fracturing situation in Basra and Iraq at this time. The army offensive in Basra may threaten the fragile cease fire against US forces being observed by most of al-Sadr's fighters. You know what that means. it could be temporary or it could really blow up. Let's see John McCain take another stroll to the market.
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So, the news from Iraq today isn't good.
Iraqi forces clashed with Shiite militiamen Tuesday in the southern oil port of Basra and gunmen patrolled several Baghdad neighborhoods as followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered a nationwide civil disobedience campaign to demand an end to the crackdown on their movement.
Explosions rang out across central Baghdad as rockets or mortars fired from Shiite areas targeted the U.S.-protected Green Zone for the second time this week.
The violence was part of an escalation in the confrontation between the Shiite-run government and al-Sadr's followers — a move that threatens the security gains achieved by U.S. and Iraqi forces. At least 22 people were killed in the Basra fighting...read on
Siun has an amazing post on FDL which tells us what five years in Iraq buys.
It's all very sad indeed.
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booshco depends on eternal war.
Five years in Iraq buys the poor farm for many of us.
SURGE HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They're killing us there so they won't have to kill us here...or some such?
What people in Iraq don't realize:
"... is that one day people will look back at this moment in history and say, thank God..."
Got it? You obviously lack the presience of our great leader.
Get with the program!
Sounds like someone else watched part 1 of "Bush's War" on Frontline last night?
Stay tunes for part 2 tonight.... best quality TV I've seen in years, PBS or otherwise.
Just more "final throes" for sure.
The surge is WORKING! Dammit!
put uup a clip of Kyra Phillips blowing McCain....uh maybe not!
off topic but funny
China
"The surge is working," "The surge is working," "The surge is working," "The surge is working," "The surge is working,".......
al Sadr '08
Guess we need to shop harder.
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/middle_east/five+years+in+ir...
5 years... play it.
President Bush is urging Americans observing Easter to remember others, particularly those in the military serving overseas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5--G-RnfJsQ&feature=related
L.A. Confidential @ 14:
http://tinyurl.com/3xko2u
I feel so sorry for those Iraqi citizens who just want to get on with life. Instead they are pawns in this never ending conflict that appears to go on forever. With Saddam, as bad as he was, they had drinking water, electricity, food supplies, cheap gasoline, some measure of safety, and a quality of life. Now they are dodging bullets and IEDs, suicide bombers, armed militia, the warring factions, the US soldiers, Blackwater hires, and Al Qaeda. You seldom hear about the ordinary people of Iraq who will hate us for generations to come. They must want to tell us to take our "democracy" and shove it up our ass.
As former General William William Odom, independent journalist Nir Rosen, and others have pointed out, apparently to no avail, it is the U.S. presence in Iraq that is the main cause of violence and bloodshed in that country. Yet all of the presidential candidates will not come out in favor of bringing the troops home as expeditiously as possible. On the contrary, both Clinton and Obama would not promise that all of the troops would be out of Iraq by the end of his or her term. Just one more example of how the Democrats are just as complicit as the Republicans in keeping this unnecessary occupation going. It should also be remembered that both of the [alleged] anti-war Democrats have voted, to their everlasting shame, to fund the occupation.
My friends, the surge is working! I don't care what ANYONE says!
No. 44 @ 5:
That should be "Get with the pogrom," methinks.
It seems that the ceasefire, shaky at best, is starting to unravel and we have out catspaws in the al-Maliki Government to thank for it. By going after the Sadrists in Basra, they may have triggered events.
Now, was Petraeus prescient in 'pausing' the drawdown of troops? Or was he in on the plan? Or was the plan cooked up in Washington, and he was following orders because he knew what was coming?
Now
mightwouldis a great time torethinkconsiderimplement the immediate withdrawal option.Uh, excuse me, but where's Al Qaeda in all this???
I really don't expect this evidence that the surge is actually not working will hurt the repugs. Keep in mind their following believes whatever they are told and have an attention span of less than 5 or 6 words. 'The surge is working' they understand but this multi-paragraph news story full or words that are 4 or even 5 syllables just will not be soaked up by the bloodthirsty 'patriots' and warmongering 'religious right'. They only listen if you chang 'USA' fire guns into the air and claim you talk to god. Whomever does this will win their vote wether or not they are lying to them and stealing all their money.
Of course, I don't care. I'll be just as broke with a dem in the white house as I will a repug.
The Republicans and Democrats have the same goals. The only difference is that each has chosen a different strategy for convincing the population that they are on their side. The repugs use emotional slogans such as support the troops and freedom isn't free. The dems simply just point out how bad a job the repugs are doing and say they will change it. Neither prez candidates have a specific plan, which really means they won't do much if anything. Ralph Nadar is the only one that has a specific plan to put the power back in the hands of the people and end the enormous wealth imbalance but nobody listens to him. The media said he is crazy and claims he torpedoed Al Gore. Don't count on anybody listening to what he says and making an informed decision. They are busy accepting whatever the corporate owned media says.
cynick @ 21:
Al Qaeda is anyone that disagrees with Bush and McCain on anything at all.
It's amazing what real civil disobediance can accomplish.
How long before the warmongers start saying that Iran is behind the violence?
Weaseldog @ 23:
Technically, we are Al Qaeda.
marko @ 9:
It's bad enough I accidently clicked on the Gene Simmons Sex Tape...!
No!
No Blowing McCain!
I'd never want to have sex again with that visual...too late...Damn You, Marko!
Kyle @ 26:
Nice to meet you Al. Call me Al.
In another unfortunate case of premature Iraq elation, the Wall Street Journal last week celebrated the decline and fall of Iraqi Shiite leader Moqtada Al-Sadr. Echoing the "bring 'em on" taunt of their former boss, ex-Bush advisers Dan Senor and Roman Martinez triumphantly asked "Whatever Happened to Moqtada?" But as the renewed turmoil in Baghdad and violent chaos in Basra suggest, the answer may be, "he's back."
For the details, see:
"Moqtada Al-Sadr Answers the Wall Street Journal."
Earth Abides @ 25:
They are saying that already. That's why McCain kept putting them in his speeches...Phillips on CNN also said Iran was arming the insurgents...
premature Iraq elation careful with that particular phrasing...
"A thick pale of smoke" ---that some good newsreadin'
Of course, CNN is the autoritative voice on stories like this:
Man Shooting Hole Through Wall Kills Wife
Deepwater Man Fatally Shoots Wife While Installing Satellite TV
No. 44 @ 5:
I'm trusting this isn't a , therefore STFU! Go spew at your rightwing hate blogs... Eff off!
Their surge is working.
cynick @ 21:
I am pretty sure that Al Qaeda in Iraq is a mythical creature like a unicorn or yetti. The insurgency is young Iraqi men who lost their jobs in the Iraqi military, cannot feed their family, had their homes destroyed during the invasion, really hate the U.S. and have tweaked their religion to justify any actions that may do harm to the invading forces that destroyed thier lives. Al Qaeda is the devil to Bush's god. You see if a child's life is saved on the operating table repugs believe it is a miracle by god and give no credit to the doctor. If the child dies it is the devil's work. If things go well in Iraq, it is because Bush is doing a good job. If things go bad, it is Al Qaeda.
This distortion of reality has been brought to you by the Republican National Convention. Dedicated to making tomorrow look really scary then saving you from the falsly percieved danger.
"We must honor the dead troops by getting more killed"
~herr dubyah
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 37:
Sounds kinda romantic. I'm a little jealous of those dyin soldiers.
I am planning to propose to my girlfriend. Does anyone know where I can get a couple IEDs to you know...set the mood.
So? (my standard answer for everything per the teachings of Deputy Leader)
John Amato @ 30:
A thought, maybe/perhaps/a possibility...McCain,Lindsey Graham and LIEberman went
over for a visit to Iraq in order to stir up problems...I mean after all, McCain says we
will be there for 100 years if necessary, so he may be wanting his prediction to be
correct. Stir the pot and get it boiling again..."and only I (McCain) can handle such
a situation because I was a prisioner of war for 5 years and have the experience needed because I have lived thru the same and have survived..my friends."
John Amato @ 30:
I wouldn't doubt that it was true in part. If an invading force occupied parts of Canada or Mexico, you don't think we would be supplying arms and munitions to our regional neighbors. We don't belong in the middle east, and Iran has every right to get rid an occupying force.
Kyle @ 38:
You probably have some reich-wing neighbors. That would be the first place to look.
The surge was "working" mainly because al-Sadr's army was laying low. The surge and his ceasefire began just about the same time.
No wonder Petraeus said he wants to halt any withdrawals for the rest of this year. Isn't it next month that Petraeus is supposed to report to Congress? That should be interesting.
Quick, tell John McCain, no mattter he thinks, Al Sadr will make sure The Surge is not working!
Kyle @ 36:
Hey, you nailed it !!!
Hometown Baghdad
Hulk @ 10:
keep saying it, keep saying it...it might come true!
NOT!
I got yer surge right here...
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/03/4k.html
heads up LA, you're next.
marko @ 9:
Yup...the seeing eye dog business would boom after that!
The guys that were shooting at us six months ago didn't magically die when the "Surge" started. Instead they just sat back and "kept their powder dry" in military lingo and waited. Till now. The Surge as a success was a lie. McCain will never admit it.
bush and his surge are about as pointless, dishonest and harmful as clinton and her superdelegate surge...
both deluded arrogants (clinton and bush) are selfishly attached to a strategy that cannot work, and puts the country at great risk for their own greedy interests.....bush, his private war in iraq, clinton, her private war with obama...
And we actually believe that this Iraqi government is worth our support? They couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel.
I guess there is a C and L blackout on Billary's embarrassments.
No surprise. The myrmidons were on the loose yesterday.
Wait! This is the same Kyra Phillips who only yesterday was prodding Gen. Petraeus to gush about how swimmingly things were going in Iraq?
Kyra, what happened, dear?
Shocked! Shocked I am!
Gary
Kyra Phillips of CNN Is a corporate shill.
Kyra Phillips of CNN Is a corporate shill.
Kyra Phillips of CNN Is a corporate shill.
Maybe If I say it enough times it will sink IN...just like MSM lies do, to a dumbed down Nation.
go-figure @ 6:
Yes, PBS. One of the last frontiers of properly vetted, well supported journalism in the United States. I think Frontline and Nova should be required viewing for all. Both make you think but one opens your eyes more. Its no wonder the Bushies want to shut down PBS and are bleeding the funding. One hour of either Nova ( global warming ) or Frontline (Iraq) will tear apart a years worth of Faux News propaganda and bullshit. I guess thats the real difference between journalism and infotainment. In other infotainment news, i said last week that Kyra Phillips was running all over Bahgdad looking for a single soldier to testify how damn happy they were to be there. I see today shes still there too... looking. But she did have a happy story today about a young Iraqi woman who paints to express her quiet suffering. Works depicting prisons,war,explosions and suffering abound. I guess thats her perspective after a dead brother and two other close relatives being picked off the street and sent packing to prison for still unexplained reasons. Wonder if Kyra will be getting her own Hummer soon? Can call it Red Dog 1 or something.
bajasteve @ 52:
Let's go back about 9 months ago....Joe Biden, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, gave
a speech(after learning that the Iraq Gov. had met only 4 of the 18 benchmarks) and
informed his colleges that, in his opinion, the ONLY way to resolve the fighting and unrest within Iraq was to divide the country into three terroritories;
between Shiites/Sunnis/Kurds and let them government themselves. His comments and
observations were laughed at and scorned by most(Repugs and Dems); but as more and
more time passes, it sure appears that his attempt at a solution for avoiding a civil war
was correct.
weazl @ 53:
yeah, whats up with this blackout....
strikes me as funny and dishonest....
doesn't really make sense....even when it gets nasty (the posts between the obamaists and the clintonistas) it's still more engaging than discussing irrelevant news stories three days past their splash....and it's still in the spirit of vigorous debate....
Bush just needs another 6 months, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another....
Didn't Hillary vote for that war? Millions upon millions of world citizens marching against it, and she needed more information.
Experience? About as real as the sniper fire.
Leslie @ 59:
Least you forget..."Mission Accomplished"...in OCTOBER 2003 !!!
Leslie @ 59:
and clinton is doing all she can to make sure he gets it....
i hear Hill Bill and Joey L are gonna form a new independent party if Clinton doesn't get the nom
Doggiebobo @ 61:
Please add a few more "and another's"
Erroll @ 17:
this needs to be said early and often, the saviors or not on the ballot!!!!!!!!!!!!send them bugs!!!!
Another corner turned.
As I have said before in the comments this "surge" never really was an effective way to control Baghdad and most especially the entire country as a whole. No additional forces of 30,000-40,000 troops (and I don't care how good they are) would have made any difference. It was the deals behind that so called "surge" that gave the illusion of increased security. Now, that is falling apart and the real power players are going back into view.
tyree @ 64:
Clinton and Obama have come out in favor of bringing the troops home as expeditiously as possible.
Your post is a lie.
Your point on funding is factually correct.
But the thrust of your post is a lie, as both the dems have committed to getting the troops home asap.
watch the news, or check out some of the old debates...
Maybe Hillary should visit Basra. She could get the REAL sniper experience.
Joe O. @ 66:
The Bushies used the opportunity of the ceasefire to target many of al-Sadr's men using the Sunni militias. Al-Sadr didn't like that very much. Plus, the Bushies haven't been paying the Sunni militias we conscripted, and the Sunnies haven't liked that very much.
Five Years was very sad. Do not watch Kyra after she tried to blame Nancy Pelosi for Katrina. Nancy told her to collect her paycheck from the White House.
But McCain said it was successful? Could it be I was lied too? Why isn't this on MSM? I thuoght it was all about Hillary and Obama.
Where is Saddam Hussein when you need him?
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 37:
yes the extra names will look good on thier monument on the washington dc mall!!!! when its built in 2091!!!!
Leslie @ 69:
Whoops, I didn't meant to denigrate the Sunis by spelling it "Sunnies." It's a typo.
What has this President done that isn't a disaster? Really, I would like some answers.
John Amato @ 30:
Note that the Republicans have been very quick and effective at jumping right on today's violence in Iraq as a "preview" of the greater regional proxy war that will fill the vacuum left by a "premature" US withdrawal (and how irresponsible the Democratic Candidates are to advocate getting out of Iraq). Oh, and a nice assist goes to CNN, Wolf Blitzer and Michael Ware who managed to regurgitate all the "Surge" Republican talking points in the 1st 5 minutes of The Situation Room today. That was nice of Wolfie. Why the Democrats can't get on top of this news cycle to show how this violence could also be a preview of the next 100 years because the Bush Administration/McCain still can't or won't tell the public what the definition of "success" in Iraq is.
Honestly - the Dems are on the side of the Angels here and they STILL can't get it together. I'm going to stock up on tequila for election night....
PortMoodyGal @ 76:
YUP!!!!
Didn't we just gave that A@#hole Muqtada al-Sadr a hundred billion American taxpayer dollars (small unmarked bills) to stop shooting everybody long enough for Bush to say 'the surge is working' and get McCain elected??? Didn't we???? We had a deal!! WE HAD A DEAL!!!!!
PortMoodyGal @ 76:
Well, to begin with..when Exxon/Mobile/etc. have the rights to ALL the oil/gas within
Iraq...That is, in a word, "success" for those who could care less how many of our fine
military personnel are lost in obtaining "their" goal.
ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 67:
dont hold your breat waiting for the last man to die in iraq~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
breath!
Doggiebobo @ 79:
Cheney: "They volunteered!"
The troops ought to Cheney Cheney.
Jeff @ 78:
Good One. Hmmm. Sarcasm aside, perhaps the terms of the deal with Sadr have changed and Bush/Cheney are now backing a new "surge" strategy...
i know, its bad.
but i'm almost rooting for al sadr to get back on the horse and show our media who is really running the show over there...i cannot stand this 'surge is working' mentality, it makes me ill.
PortMoodyGal @ 77:
Thy did tell us what the watered-down definition of success was. The 18 benchmarks!
I seem to recall they made progress on 3 of them, or 8 if you really pushed it. Nobody talks about them any more because they know that no progress is being made on any front now.
Whoops! I guess the media forgot to report that Al Sadr ordered a cease fire during the same time as the troop build up.
It will become obvious that 20K US troops will not quell a civil war once the cease fire is up.
Sorry to tell the truth.
Prepare to be told that Osama bin Goldstein is in Iran any day now.
America is at war with Iran. America has always been at war with Iran.
This is off subject, I apologise....but the opening on NBC Nightly News was...Where is all that oil profit was that supposed to help put Iraq back together?
LOL...It's in George and Dick's pocket!!!!
PortMoodyGal @ 84:
Actually, I was thinking al-Sadr went nuts when he realized he could have demanded Euro's.
ummmm...mr. Amato, your last post about the generul betrayus situation kind of vaporized. wassup?
Didn't we ALREADY try arming and training half-crazed Islamic theocrats the last time we were interested in that corner of the world - namely when we created bin Laden to fight off the godless pinko hippie hordes of the Soviet Union?
Worked out real well, that one.
cynick @ 21:
Nowhere!
What happened to the General Betrayus post?
They sent Kyra Phillips, ( CNN Bullshit Artist ), to Iraq to get all touchy-feely about the so called successful surge, Suck it all up now baby.
OK wait, I don't get it. When the attacks went down, the post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc crowd in the Bush admin said, "see the surge is working."
But now the surge is still on and the attacks are going up. Why haven't they said this proves the surge isn't working?
Scott @ 55:
Wasn't it just yesterday she was on the anchor desk? Maybe CNN sent her to Iraq so she could get a taste of reality.
And is McCain still spouting how well the surge is going?
Fuck this, lets start bombing the shit out of Iran and start fresh. We`ll get it right yet. Long live democracy.
The concept of "Blood Price" made the Japanese fight on long after they knew the cause was hopeless...
JerryO @ 89:
And so is the button that creates all those darn mushroom clouds. Adios
Chris @ 96:
Ahhh. You've cleverly cottoned onto the "Petraeus Paradox". Casualties go down - "See - the surge is working". Well, then, let's begin to bring the troops home, right? NO sir- That would "embolden the enemy" and the region would "descend into Chaos".
Casualties go up? "See how smart we were to have executed "The Surge"? It would be ten million times worse if the Democrats had had their way. They would have pulled out of Iraq and the whole region would have descended into Chaos".
It's kind of genius, really. And the MSM just parrots this. Polly want a Cracker?
Do you suppose pResident BunnyPants and his mighty Gang of Ass Clowns realize that they're being played as total chumps? When it comes to "strateegy" the Chimp is an inept checker player going up against freakin' Chess Grand Masters.
For what we are about to receive may we truly be grateful.
Hulk @ 10:
And therefore it works. :>)
It's as if the lull in violence was due to al Sadr's truce, and now that it's over, so is the lull in violence.
Bush's blood splurge didn't work.
Look, by the time the bUSH junta gets done telling everyone how smart they are they will have changed history to reflect that the Iraqi's attacked the Alamo and that Santa Anna raped Jessica Lynch after Davy Crocket fathered her albino stepson.
Thats how fucked up they are and they are in control of your country. Real living breathing Hannibal Lector's , the whole godammed lot of them. Prison cells for them is the only answer to this mess. Lets do it!
She's a liar......there's no problems in Iraq. Everything is just fine. Our fearless Republican presidential candidate John McSameasBush just returned from more market walks and Indiana-type shopping with Mike Pence.
Quit trying to be a negative ninny !
Weaseldog @ 23:
Pretty much sums it up. If you don't SHUT UP and agree with the neocon/right wing chickenhawks, YOU ARE Al Qaeda!! YOU DO NOT SUPPORT the troops!! YOU are the problem!!
They've marked the left, the progressives, the liberals, the Democratic Party as "anti-American". The sad part is, the right wing/repugs believe it!!!
Col Kilgore @ 56:
From what I saw on Frontline lastnight, many of the Chimp and Organgrinder Administration are starting to spill the beans. Cheney is toast. Yes, don`t miss Part 2 tonight.
ohio progressive (typical white person) @ 67:
"Your post is a lie." Not hardly. Not one of these [alleged] anti-war candidates is calling for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from that abattoir in Iraq, thus ensuring that more soldiers will return to this country in coffins and even more of them will end up in Walter reed and VA hospitals across this country maimed and crippled, disfigured and dismembered, severely burned, blinded, brain damaged, paralyzed, missing arms and legs, and suffering from the effects of PTSD. Those soldiers are not dying for some amorphous noble cause; on the contrary, they are being sacrificed for the lies, as I was in Vietnam, that they are given by their duplicitous government. Obama and Clinton can hardly be considered to be supporting the troops by allowing them to remain in that slaughterhouse for more than one day necessary. As a matter of fact Obama, that alleged agent of hope and change, advocates keeping 40,000 to 50,000 troops in Iraq, even after his phased withdrawal is finally complete. Perhaps these two can end up visiting VA hospitals after their damage is already done to these ill treated soldiers.
Support the troops. Bring them home-alive and in one piece-now.
All Americans should be required to watch 'Bush's War' on PBS Frontline before being allowed to vote in the next presidential election.
Part two is on tonight.
That war crimes were committed by this administration in it's pursuit of the occupation of Iraq is, in George Tenet's words,"a slam dunk."
I challenge all war-cheerleaders to watch tonight's episode, and just try to dissemble and spin it tomorrow. I seriously doubt they will be able to.
Steve E @ 98:
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Irag is so lost, they don't deserve neo-democracy, so let's put it to Iran and get MacBush in office and if that don't happen right just before election we can always do the martial law kind of thing. Right!
Thanks Chicken “Hussein” Little - Not!!
[Do you suppose pResident BunnyPants and his mighty Gang of Ass Clowns realize that they’re being played as total chumps? When it comes to “strateegy” the Chimp is an inept checker player going up against freakin’ Chess Grand Masters.]
I've been saying it for years - The Iranians used Bushco's greed and utter stupidity to get rid of Saddam, take over Iraq, destroy our economy, drive up oil prices..., all the while watching more Americans die than ever. They played those idiots in the White House like a fu@king violin. It's frightening isn't it? They STILL have another 9 months to manipulate the clueless idiots in the Bush Administration.
How could we let it happen?
Surge II: The Sequal.
Erroll @ 109:
I will go further than that and say your nickname is a lie. There is nothing progressive about you.
P.D. @ 76:
Do they document him taking a shit...? No, he probably f**ks that up too.
Verdillac @ 115:
Here is a partial list of things he has done, if you look hard enough you may be able to find one or two that was not a total disaster. Maybe.
A Delicate Balance Of Lies Will Unfold
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Joseph
Joseph @ 117:
It's not nice to piss off Site Monitor.
*Thunder Snap!*
:)
Joseph @ 117:
I first posted this comment at 113 and 114. I recieved the same warning. I did not copy or pilfer this. Why was it pulled to begin with? I thought it was because I misspelled the word delicate with delegate. That could of lead to an of topic post. You pulled my correction at 119
Joseph
Surge II - The Death Splurge Chronicles ... Hey..... i got first dibs on that for new heavy metal band name. Better than Shock And Awe even.
Erroll @ 109:
i will not now or ever vote for a candidate who will not withdraw us from iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and afganistan!!!!!!!!!
i forgot to say !!!completly within one year!
tyree @ 122:
I`m all for that, Brother,but I`m not going to hold my breath.We need to gather 20 million men, women, and children,march to Washington,and refuse to leave till Bush and Co.have been held accountable for their crimes and the troops get the OK to come home.
Bush Must Walk a Thin Line
The lies from here on has to be in a delicate balance because the people in our country already want to impeach this president. Bush will have to present a case for continuing this war. It appears he will not be able to use “the Surge is working” after all.
You don’t have to be a prophet to read these cards. The situation in Iraq is about to come apart at the seams. This can lead to another call for more troops to do what can be done at any point in this war: Overwhelm the opposition with new technology and massive fire power. At anytime we insert this option, it will work to a point. Keep in mind the use of smart weapons have not served us as well as we would like. The so-called smart bomb will hit its target and everything around it. Enter “collateral damage.” The killing of innocent men women and children that feed the insurgency as Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, Uncle, Aunt and the family dog become the next rapid generation of insurgents hell bent on revenge. Yes, the “surge” is working both ways.
Joseph
Ok wait, al-Sadr calls for "civil disobedience," stores close, people march, and yet this news story seems to immediately link the green zone shelling to his forces? Did he call for an escalation in violence, actually call for his cease fire to end? I don't get it. I mean, I know that mortars were emanating from Shiite districts, but what evidence is there that their origins were of the Mahdi army or its supporters? I'm not convinced either way, just wondering if I'm missing something obvious...
We are making significant progress in Iraq to make the Iraqi people into a Jeffersonian democracy.
We only need six more months, times ten.(at least). You cut and runners ought to grow up and accept the dictatorship Bush has imposed on you.
Good luck to the Mahdi Army. Its hard to fight a brutal, racist and just plain evil empire with just plastique and small arms. I hope this Iraqi 'surge' has the same effect as the Tet offensive, ending the American occupation and reclaiming their land from the Imperial army and its mercenary brigades.
Spock @ 3:
"Viva Viagra!" Ooops, sorry, that's John McBomb's theme song!!!!
anncoulterisevil.com @ 12:
Good one!
Kyra's got a hard-on again! Shock and Drama Kyra, shock and drama! Love the Polo by the way.
How Will Bush Frame The Surge Now
The Surge seems to be hanging by thin thread. How will this administration frame the next request for more troops? We need to face the facts the only reason they are not killing each other in Iraq is because we are paying them to be cool. I wonder how long does Bush think we should be paying for this fragile peace. Maybe for the 100 years. I say leave now.
We are not serving anything related to our safety. The Iraqi civil war has nothing to do with our well being. This war is draining us in so many ways. Its time to put the war issue in the forefront before more people die for Iraqi oil.
Joseph
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