New Petraeus plan allows Bush to punt Iraq to successor
By SilentPatriot Monday Mar 24, 2008 7:45pm
In what should come as a surprise to no one, General Petraeus handed President Bush a war plan today that recommends he continue the escalation surge throughout 2008. This will effectively allow the President to wait out the clock until a real leader can take over and assume responsibility for the mess he has gotten us into.
My guess is he will take the advice. At least this way he can maybe convince himself that all the blood won't be on his hands.
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this is not American a democracy
this is America bush's fascist-dictatorship
FUCK BUSH AND CHENEY--------SO !
He looks like he wants to kiss Bush in that photo
It is just unreal that the jackass criminal can just walk away from the hell he created
BushCo desperately wants to get in place a bunch of binding (?) treaties with Iraq for his corporate buddies before their tenure ends in January...
Of course, we'll be (along with the new administration) left holding the bag,
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Looking at the picture of the two of them reminds me of when I used to drop acid at a pig farm many years ago...
He really deserves the name BetrayUs, for all he has done to us and for us and for all he will do to us and for us.
This is fitting actually. Pretty much every business enterprise or endeavor that Bush set out on his during life has failed and was always left for someone else to fix or clean up. Iraq and Afghanistan are no different.
Blood will always be on his hands whether or not his ass is in office.
His war, his blood.
After Bush and Cheney leave office they should have to reside in Baghdad until we're no longer at war.
This way security protection will be automatically provided for them with no additional expense to the taxpayer, and they can enjoy the same wonderful housing and food our servicemen and women receive.
Anyone who can send thousands to die in a war, but is unwilling to participate on the front lines is a coward. It's time they paid their debt to American and Iraqi society.
But, of course, we all know Bush will enjoy his days on a giant ranch in Paraguay instead.
Must be nice. Chimpy gets to f*ck the country....and then shuffle back to Crawford with no ramifications.
Do we really have a mission besides spending more money and lives?
greg white @ 9:
A giant ranch patrolled by Blackwater. I hope someone forms a posse.
Move On was certainly right. Will all the Repugs who vilified them say they were wrong? I don't know what is worse, the Repugs or the assholes who vote for them.
I want to say he's thrown the entire US of A situation under the bus, but I know that's not the correct usage.
Worst. President. Ever.
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 11:
No.
Party of responsibility. Ha.
Joe O. @ 7:
I completely agree. His dad and his dad's buddies cleaned up before when he screwed the pooch but this time it will be the next democratic president and the rest of us. McCain on the other hand must be getting excited at the prospects of his getting to play war with our people's lives.
I wonder what is going through the heads of the Iraqis? Did anyone ask them how they feel about the US being there for at least the rest of this year?
General Petraeus=GDCSer.
The coward cut and run from his occupation.
Add General Betrayus to the list of war criminals. He is bright enough to know better than to kiss Bush's political ass. He could have helped lead us out of this morass, instead he's decided to sell his soul and extend the misery.
(Sigh)....nope...no surprise... no surprise at all....JD
Well which would be worse, bush staying in office and keeping this shit going forever, or having a democratic president who can begin to slow this disaster down. We have all known for a long time that bush would leave this for the next president. Remember sometime I think it was early last year when bush said some decision about the war would be made by other presidents?
So does this confirm Petraeus as Republicanista VP candidate, or does Senator Joementum still have a "bipartisan" chance?
At least this way he can maybe convince himself that all the blood won’t be on his hands.
Yep. No matter what happens after he leaves office, Iraq is likely to be a disaster. Whether we get out or stay, Iraq will continue to worsen. And Bush and his sycophantic supporters will say that all would have gotten better had Bush remained in office. They will convince themselves that everything was on the road to heaven there until Bush was forced out by term limits.
Joe O. @ 7:
Indeed. He has the reverse Midas touch. His resume contains nothing but utter failures. Disasters. He ruins everything he gets his hands on.
And people in this country put him in charge of the world. He ruined that too.
Joe O. @ 7:
This time Chimpey will pay for it. Jail time. Unfortunately, it will be years (during which we may see a collapse of American influence) before he will pay his dues for the destruction he has wrought on America.
What's the average re-tour of duty for the troops now? Three, four, five...extending into six, seven, eight?
Stus @ 23:
I doubt Patraeus will be the VeeP choice. Lieberman perhaps.
I'd keep my eye on Gov. Jindal of Louisiana as well.
Petraeus - Four Star General Fluffer.
This is the standard bush plan step into something you know nothing about.
Do everything you can to fuck it up, run it into the ground.
Leave and let someone else fix it. bush hell it's the republican way!
Hopefully we will finally have a real President next year.
AH, so it WAS General BETRAYUS!!!
No one here wants a revolution, it seems.
But when Bush hands off to the next president, there is not going to be much change.
Just listen to the candidates.
So, how do we get change?
Vote Democratic, some say.
Liberal AND Proud @ 30:
Hopefully, but they'll be tasked with taking the steering wheel of a plane in mid-crash. Good luck!
God, MSM thinks were so dumb! The saturation of hillary and Obama are pathetic. They are trying to fog the real issue with fluff! Iraq is disasterous, the economy sucks, our children can kiss the fiancial security good-bye. What the hell!
Lady Macbeth had nothing on Bush. The blood on his hands will forever be his - and Cheney's, and Rumsfeld's, and Condi's, and Ashcroft's, and the rest of this incompetent crew's. It will never come clean.
suppose bush doesn't leave office. you know its possible. the military commissions act, nspd 20/51, hr 1955, countless executive orders. falcon raids anyone?
martial law is literally just begging to begin. im sure blackwater can't wait. then we can begin to prosecute everyone who doesn't support the GWOT and throw them into camps and call them terrorists while we do to Iran what we just did to Iraq. I hope Israel feels safe and the oil companies are happy. thats it for now.
IMHO the results of November 2006 prompted the "Surge", and NOT any long term, informed strategy.
Bush/Petreaus talked about retruning the surge troops by December, claiming progress and stabalization.
Instead this "new" "plan" being announced now, was, I suspect, hatched or given the go-ahead in December.
My suspicion rests on the fact that my neigbhour's nephew and his dad got their redeployment orders in January, their respectively 2nd and third tours to begin in June-three months from now.
Thousands of others must have got their orders at the same time. Their mission is surely to help sustain the troop level of 130,000--all planned months ago in direct refutation of the public rhetoric.
"New" Petraeus Plan to punt Iraq to Bush's successor? Nice Alliteration aside, let's be real here. That's been the plan all along. Petraeus is smart to hitch his star (pardon the pun) to MCcain - it's his only option going forward after sacrificing his credibility for the Bush administration. If I were not so angry, I'd pity him.
At least Bush can pitch in after January. Go on patrols on his bike.
gemHusseinpei @ 12:
blackwater has renamed themselves to greydoves and moved their hdqt to carribean
so they don't have to pay any taxes now.
When dick compared Iraq to the Nixon pardon he was saying w will get away with his crimes too.
I sure feel betrayed by that stupid general.
I think in January 08 Bush/Cheney should be required to move to Baghdad ...it being the only way they get any retirement money....
blood, schmud!
its time for another vacation!!!
I don't know what the schools teach about history and current world affairs but, they should beef up the curriculum and make history classes include the most recent U.S. history.
Wouldn't it be great if a Democratic presidential candidate announced that she/he would tell Petraeus to clean out his desk one minute after entering the Oval Office?
Ron @ 45:
creationism lol
dadams @ 47:
Bull, Bush and Cheney evolved from slugs.
K.O. ought to go down in history for his comments on this administration.
Check out Frontline tonght, if like this post you'll dig what they've put together.
Like people didn't see this coming? Running toward the finish line in an assault on anything considered sane by this administration, you had to know that both parties would give Bush a pass on our perpetual war for perpetual peace so as to keep the perpetual oil flowing. The only way to end the madness is in creating alternatives to oil through innovation which has thus far been severaly underfunded in this country by heavy handed lobbyists for major corporations that couldn't bare the thought that the punch bowl would be taken away. I magine what just two months of funding for Iraq might accomplish? At 12 billion dollars of make believe money we might begin making inroads on much needed repairs to infrstructure. At six months or 36 billion, we could pour the funds into a Manhattan type project finding new technologies that would significantly reduce our need for fossil fuels. But alsa, that would be asking too much of the already brain dead in D.C. to even consider while they continue to pick our pockets clean as they look the other way while bailing out non banks like Bear Sterns with tax payer money. You get what you vote for folks and some people just never learn.
Bush and Chaney are not leaving ...
If McCain gets in the "Surge" will just be the foundation for the next escalation and the one after that.
Ron @ 45:
I took AP American History my sophomore year (two years ago) and they had the Iraq War in the text book and covered it. However, regular American History classes didn't even cover the Vietnam War and I doubt many of my friends went home to study it for themselves. The curriculum drop off is so drastic between honor classes and regular class, which I am sure has to do with more focus being put on passing the tests (OGT in Ohio) when the No Child Left Behind act was passed.
EliteLemming @ 50:
You can also watch Bush's War online if you like. Since it is already up you don't have to wait.
Chris H. @ 54:
Most real education occurs outside of school. If you can wade through some of the mistatements and outright lies made by some of the posters on C&L you can learn a lot from the rest.
I think it's been pretty obvious for some time that President Bush's personal exit strategy has been to leave the burning bag of dog shit that is Iraq on someone else's doorstep.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 55:
Whats up xoites. Hope nobody thinks I've caught the Shills.
I look at that picture of the two of them, and I hear "Lost in Love" by Air Supply.
EliteLemming @ 58:
Hi :)
I love a good argument.
Sometimes i get a little carried away. :)
what did he know and when did he know it? It's been proven that this war criminal knowingly lied to the congress and american people in the run up to the invasion. the corporate media is complicite in this evil fraud. this is the current state of affairs in the usa.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 55:
whitewash!
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 60:
I didn't take anything personally, I just reallize I'm mentioning Public Broadcasting a lot lately.
EliteLemming @ 63:
Did you finish reading everything i said this morning? Bill Moyers is one of my heroes.
It will be interesting and horrifying to watch the blood shift to the hands of Obama, Clinton or McCain.
None of them have the guts to just say "enough".
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 64:
Yes, you're okay in my book. I enjoy you posts. You,re good enough, you're smart enough and gosh darn it, people like you.
TerriblePressure @ 65:
i have a olan to end the war and bring the troops home!!after the end of my second term, sighned hillery john obama!
TerriblePressure @ 65:
If any one of the three of them have the guts to get rid of the contractors and employ the Iraqi people to rebuild their own country this disater could be turned around.
plan
tyree @ 69:
Not to mention 'elan. :)
George W. Bush will NEVER NEVER NEVER get out from under his responsibility for this unforgiveable war. There is plenty of blood to go around with 4000 dead and counting... and he should see EVERY one of those names and faces in his dreams every night.
Now, of course, I know that he is probably incapable of that level of empathy. I take comfort in the fact that the Elder Bush and brother Jeb are smart enough to know and understand what a FUCK-UP W has been. They are family. Their em-bare-ass-ment will be ever present for the rest of their lives. George and Barbara's "evil spawn" will go down in history as the WORST PRESIDENT of all. That will never change... FOREVER!
And Betray-Us?? Careful who you sleep with, boy... sometimes the STINK rubs off on you.
CowboyBob in Austin @ 71:
I hope you are right about him remaining worst becacause the one who ends up being worse than him will also be the last.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 70:
hi xo! elan yes ita a good word ,
tyree @ 73:
:)
You will be pleased to know that Petraeus has a long cherished ambition to run for President himself. Sadly he seems to have hitched his wagon to a dead elephant. Giddyup Dumbo.
Yeah, this isn't news. Any other outcome would have been contradicted widely with the expected predictions.
Ron @ 48:
who said they evolved?
Funny that records are now being made available that prove the Saddam was everything bad the everyone 'including Slick Willie' said about him. Left to his own devices he would have killed millions, maybe including everyone on here's families. Involved with dozens of terrorist organizations including AQ. I guess getting a handle on several Arab languages takes a while, especially when you are depending on people that have graduated from the liberal failed education system in the U.S. Graduating from Harvard with a 5 year degree and dumber than the freshemen entering streight out of HS. In 5 years the major colleges will have dumbed these kids down to. Being a liberal that 'thinks' they're smart (the rest of the world knows they're stupid) but be a hell of a way to live.
Does anyone really believe that Bush plans to leave office?? Just who do you think would stop him from taking over with "PD51"? Pelosi?? Reed?? I bet he's really worried about that. . .
Scrapiron @ 78:
instead of your empty rhetoric...........how about some proof.You know, a link. preferably from a credible source(don't link us to Faux Noozzz.
Scrapiron @ 78:
You can't spell and you make shit up.
I am impressed with your "beliefs."
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 81:
Can you translate Srapiron for me xoites? I tired Babelfish but it doesn't do Dumbass to English.
scrapiron just did a drive by.
well,I suppose you could call that "Typical"
Peter G @ 82:
My Babelfish is with my towel. No idea where i left it.
mudshark @ 83:
More like a upchuck by.
Today General Petraeus handed President Bush a war plan that Cheney wrote that will keep the Bush Crime Family safe until they can sneak off to Paraguay, Dubai, or somewhere else where they can't be touched for their crimes against humanity.
BTW, I doubt you'll see Bush at his Crawford pig farm much after his alleged presidency is over. The "ranch" was just a prop that was bought per Rove so Bushie could prove he was just common folk. You know, the type of yokel that you'd like to have a beer with. Well the yokel part was right but that's about the only thing that's been right about Bush.
Pursang @ 86:
Can't wait until we use our special forces to get him back.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 85:
yep, projectile type.
See ya late x...........mudshark out.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 87:
I'd go back on active duty to get in on that operation.
Since Bush's strategy for a few years now has been running out the clock, this seems like a cosmetic change at most.
Is there a McCain/Petraeus candidacy in the future?
ralph @ 79:
If push comes to shove..... Never underestimate the fury of an annoyed populace.... You can give your orders from the deepest bunker, but it comes to naught if no one is listening, and you cant do squat if the bunkers doors are welded shut FROM THE OUTSIDE.....
This is news?
That's been Bush's plan for years now.
Dave @ 2:
He's thinking to himself...."I've sold my soul! What have I done?"
It is "betray us" after all, isn't it?
Scrapiron @ 78:
I've got it!!! Crapiron is the editor in chief of Conservapedia.
Scrapiron @ 78:
I saw that same records! The records were right next to the bigfoot story and the kid with four heads in several supermarket tabloids. lol
Please don't be obtuse. George W. Bush has no intention of "waiting out the clock" -- he intends to attack Iran, and will almost certainly do so before November. First will come the conventional bombs, and then when these have almost no effect except to enrage the world community, Bush is going to bring out the nukes. Of course, the alternate strategy is that his Israeli friends are going to start this little end-of-the-world party for him, and he'll just escalate. The Russians will jump in with their nukes, and China will clean up the mess. But one way or the other, most of us aren't going to live to 2009.
Does anyone realize what imagination, what creative power, what an enormous rationalization Bush generates to make himself believe what a great job he has done?
With this troubled economy as it is now what will it be like after expending trillions more in Iraq after several more months?
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Well...
D u h !
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Ahhh yes , George Bush , an American success story , momma and poppa should be so proud . Scrapiron , go take your meds you stupid ass .
tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe @ 8:
You got that right, game. I dont know how that bastard can sleep at night or how he can look at himself in a mirror.
If there is a God, (and I do believe there is) prez fucksupalot and his gangsters will get theirs in spades, eventually. I just hope Im around to see it!!
"George W. Bush will NEVER NEVER NEVER get out from under his responsibility for this unforgiveable war. There is plenty of blood to go around with 4000 dead and counting"
Theres about a MILLION dead. Bush needs to be tried in an international court. If he ever steps foot in a european country again hopefully we'll lynch the motherfucker. Rumsfeld is already on notice that he will be arrested if he sets foot in germany.
Of course, the irony in this is that it is evidence that the surge has not worked. Which Petraeus sort of accidentaly copped to about a week ago.
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The only wonderful thing about this result is that it should keep Iraq as a major focus of the election cycle….
Dont be fooled by the in-fighting democrats….. McCain is the enemy
[Edited for case change-Sitemonitor]
Wow look at that chest full of medals
All for brown nosing, and butt kissing.
So, if MoveOn does another campaign ad, there should be silence from the ReThugs and no wasting of time to pass a resolution condemning them for telling the truth, right?
This needs to be hung as a milestone around the neck of every ReThug running for election, or re-election, regardless of the elected office in Congress. I have more hope for getting stuff done in Congress after 2008, rather than leaving it to POTUS, because the longer this Hillary Clinton thing gets dragged out, the more I'm thinking some shenanigans will crop up to snatch the nomination from Obama and give it to Hillary, thereby rendering the POTUS useless for the next four years, and leaving it up to Congress to get shyt done.
I KNEW this was going to happen. He never had the intention of ending the war while he was in office. It was a scam to make him and his cronies money and to keep the American sheep into voting for him. That dumb M#^$%# F#^$%# Bush is a fascist murderer and deserves to be treated like one!!!
I hope when this prick is back home in Texas after his presiduncey is over that people treat him like the piece of fetid shit that he is. It doesn't seem right that this asshole will be able to live out his days in peace after having raped the US.
General Betrayus has spoke again.
Hooo dawgies! That look on Petraeus' face says it all don't it?
Givin Bushy the ol' stink eye!
Unfortunately, the Democrats are walking into a trap. If they win, and ANYTHING negative happens in Iraq or Afghanistan, the new president will be blamed. It won't matter what Bush and his fascist friends did to lay the foundation of sewage that built this war. In fact, it won't even take any action from the new president.
Watch FOX spend countless hours covering the new crisis in Iraq that has occured because a Democrat was elected. "Our enemies are clearly taking advantage of the cut and run policies that are likely to be coming out of the Obama (or Clinton) administration this year. Isn't that right Britt?"
Arbusto, insider trading, DUI, AWOL... the list goes on and on...
Has this useless, stuttering sonovabitch ever had to clean up his own mess? EVER?
Pathetic. And We the People get to pay the price for his stupidity.
No suprise here, Petraeus is/was a puppet from the get go.
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