The Press and their love for McCain
By John Amato Wednesday Mar 26, 2008 12:50pmI've never seen the press cover for a politician like they do for McCain. I know back in the day---sports writer's used to shield the athletes they covered as much as possible, but this is insane. And it will continue through to the general election.
Neal Gabler has a fascinating article today in the NY Times about the relationship between St. McCain and his Hannah Montana fanboys in the press. I think he really gets to the nub of the mutual fascination --- and outlines how McCain manages to fool a good number of Americans into thinking he is really a closet liberal despite being a raving wingnut...
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This is the problem. The macho "maverick" is the coolest kid in school and all the breathless media villagers are thrilled to be in his orbit. It's why they are always telling us that his panders don't mean anything. Everybody knows that cool guys think crazy preachers like Falwell and Hagee are losers. It's a show for the rubes. Just like democracy..read on
The Maverick and the Media, by Neil Gabler.
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it's just the barbeque right?
he bought of the media with boneless chicken wings!
McCain is no liberal... This McCain/press 'love affair' is creepy in the same way the old eccentric guy at the end of the block doting after all the grade schoolers with cool aid and treats irregardless of parental wishes is pediphile like creepy... And the whole goddamned McCain rah rah parade is a fucking facade.... This guy is dangerous and a phony, end of story...............JD
The press in England have a different impression of the Mav. He stopped in London recently and the press (I think it was in the Guardian) thought he looked tired and old. They stated he wasn't wearing his makeup that cover his melanoma scars and he looked worn out and old. I really believe that when the debates start between McCain and the Dem nominee, the differences will be glaring and unavoidable. The mask will be off and McCain will be what he is: a compromise candidate who was selected only because everyone else was so much worse.
Neil Gabler is a self-infatuated pop culture critic who thinks
he is a profound observer as one who consistently goes deeply into the surface of things. Gabler is fascinated like a mindless child with politics as show biz. Gabler, in refusing to recognize that the game has real consequences in the form of war, depression, death of rule of law, death of middle class and killing off poor with greater and greater inequality via no health care, is morally dead, morally hollow. No doubt Gabler is equally fascinated with the show we see in Triumph of the Will; fascinated with German spectacle of flags, music, marching corps of young blondes as all part of a wink wink show prior to the Jews being put in the cattlecars. For a Jew I hope he yet finds that irony a kick. He thinks he is so smart when he is morally numb. He is contemptible on every level.
The more press he gets, the worse he looks.
Just give him time to do what he does best.
Even the doting press can't shield all of it from view.
I heard a reporter yesterday talking about covering McCain. This reporter said if McCain feels he can trust the reporter he's very open with them. So I think they all want to keep his trust so they give him a free ride. Sounds to me like the white house briefings. If a reporter wants to continue to be allowed in those briefings they must behave.
Do all the candidates throw parties or barbecues for the press?
...ummm, fuck McCain.
American's are wise to what the media is up to. The polling suggests that many American's are tired of the Wright issue. And the fact all the networks gave McCain a pass on Hagee. Even my father agreed it is Corporate Americas fear of a Democrat getting in the White House. I myself, I'm going to spend my Summer in the garden to escape this bullshit.
The press is giving McCain a free pass for now, but they have sure dug their heels FINALLY into Hillary. Is this really illegal?
Uh-oh
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign says it "has complied with the law" surrounding a fundraising concert that Elton John is scheduled to perform on April 9 in New York City on behalf of the Democratic presidential candidate.
The statement came after Inside the Beltway earlier today questioned whether the New York senator and the British pop music star were violating the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA), which seeks to "minimize foreign intervention" in U.S. elections by establishing a series of limitations on foreign nationals.
The FECA "prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment."
This could be interesting. If Obama is the democratic nominee, the press will have a hard time deciding where all their gushing should go. Without Hillary, they may have a hard time deciding whom to get their hate on for.
The way it is now, we'd have the war hero backstory vs the young gun minority uniter. Any chance we'd see any real reporting?
This morning Joe Scarborough went Limbaugh on his dumb show saying the media loves Obama and that they were easy on him because the MSM wants a black president. He then had Craig Crawford on who went into such an anti-Obama rant he turned red and almost lost his breath.
The press is trying to prove that they choose who will be President. Last time the press got a retard elected, this time they are going to try and get a senile old man elected
Self introspection on the part of the MSM pretty much come down to staring at their navels.
I wonder if there is a Kickback to certain reporters. That is why McCain gets such good press.
ConcernedCanuck @ 9:
Does this mean no benefits for Obama by U2?
I agree with roxney that the media picked Bush in 2004. All the Kerry bashing and the Chaney, "Be very afraid." bullshit, MSM handed Bush the presidency. That and the dumb ass voters, who couldn't tell they were being manipulated. Lets hope they are smarter this time.,
Get ready for Bush III then. The media was never much for exposing that guy either.
Left&Left @ 11:
I saw that too. That's when I changed the channel.
goat hussein sage @ 13:
Yep, you nailed it. They believe in themselves as celebrities. That is why they continually quote the latest "ratings leaders" and how many viewers they have. Watch us and our constant "clean coal" advertisements, because we know more than you about everything and will inform you of your opinion. Blech.
goat hussein sage @ 15:
LOL.....guess not.
The media is picking Mccain. FOX is leading the way.
Too many reporters now have their own shows, especially on MSNBC. They are the "star" of their show. That's not the way it's supposed to work.
The Press is covering for the Republican party's incompetent leadership now just as they have since Ronald Reagan. Nothing has changed since 1980. Sorry you haven't noticed until now!
I get a kick out of CNN saying Clinton or Obama supporters will vote for McPimple if their candidate does not get the nomination. What a joke. Let's see, I want Obama but Clinto got the nimination, so I will vote for McShitstain? I doubt that is how it is gonna go down....
I thought Limpballs was to busy rigging the primaries, Now he has time to appear with Scarbrough? Is there anything else Limpballs can foul up?
Ask McCain why his father let Israel off the hook for their attempted sinking and murder of the USS Liberty crew. Ask him why he runs interference on this topic, and how much he gets paid to ensure that the problem gets swept under the rug. Ask him why Lieberman has been chosen as his running mate.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July2004/Hughes0712.htm
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
fwacbar @ 24:
You'd be surprised. My grandma who's a lifelong democrat said she'd vote for four more years of shit with McGeritol. I told her she could f*ck herself.
ok,...I didn't tell her that.
McCain has been made to be some sort of icon. That plus his age may make it difficult for the press to write anything negative about him. They may feel to do so would show disrespect for the elderly "war hero".
It's like the grandfather of the family who is getting old and making mistakes. No one in the family talks about it when he's around because they respect him and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Of course the press are not members of McCain's family, but he makes them feel like they are by joking around with them, and things like the cookout.
McCain and the media both work for the same country - and it is not US.
You're taking a page out of the Hillary playbook.
Can't wait to see Mccain as president experiencing a senor moment. Hmm, I wonder where the red button will be?
P.D. @ 31:
Lieberman will be holding it.
And this bullshit whoring for McCain by the MSM produces propaganda that causes
the unwashed mass or retards poll this way:
For the second poll in a row, more than 20% of Clinton and 20% of Obama supporters say they would support McCain when he's matched up against the other Democrat.
So that means that 40% of polled Democrats are IDIOTS!
I have great hope for the future......
LOL patricia, I'd laugh. But the thought truly terrifies me!
wow - digby agrees with me *g* said it 3 years ago that they treat him the way the middle aged out of shape white guy sportswriters gush about quarterbacks
anyhoo - 2 Media Matters guys (Brock and Waldman) have just released a book on this called Free Ride - and from the 2 excerpts alone, they do a very good job of laying out it's genesis and application - click on any of the ads for it to read an excerpt
StirFry @ 27:
Ask Grandma these questions for me:
You would rather see John McBush choose the next 2-3 Supreme Court nominees?
You would rather see McBush choosing a cabinet of his liking which will probably include the same neo-con artists who’ve been foisted upon us for the past eight years?
Do you want us to continue occupying Iraq for a hundred years? You won't even be around when the bills come due.
Do you want to see you and your family's civil and privacy rights diminished even more?
Do you want another Republican who is beholden to the Christian Fundamentalist right wing and the FOX news crowd as their president until 2012?
Are you willing to sign off on torture as official U.S. policy rather than have a Democrat become president?
McMediaFonzie's gonna be fun to watch at the debates as McNeopuppet desperately searches the stage for the jukebox, and it'll only get funnier when McShootinblanks tries to answer economic questions with "Aaaaaayyyyyy"...
Last Week's McAKA's(finally updated), The Big Pile O' McAKA's and Chimpy's GreatestShitsList Survey here
P.D. @ 34:
Don't laugh. Lieberman will ABSOLUTELY be McCain's VP - and they will be (s)elected.
It's all been prearranged.
Your vote is irrelevant.
Wow nony, That's a downer. I hope the sheeple wisen up. If not, were doomed.
ConcernedCanuck @ 9:
With the exception of Rupert Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon of course.
miss skeptic @ 3:
I agree. McCain's cruising right now because the Democrats are busy putting on the real sideshow. That's gonna end eventually, and it'll be McInsane against the Democrat (hopefully it'll be Obama. It'll look like the Kennedy/Nixon debates of 1960 all over again).
P.D. @ 39:
No one wants the truth. That's why the criminals have won. It became far more popular and acceptable to call truth tellers "conspiracy theorists" than it did to compel the media to ask probing follow up questions and do their jobs.
The criminals no the truth, and they own the media.
sharkcellar @ 7:
K street jobseeker's sure-hire strategy...
Don't take this the wrong way because I have alot of respect for this site, but I'm dissapointed that no one posted the Hillary/Bosnia scandel. This site is named Crooks and 'Liars'. I believe Hillary fits into the liar catagory... or do you only hold republicans accountable for thier words/actions?
is it the press' love affair with mccain?
OR
is it the press' fear of the rightwing?
i think it is the latter. i think the press is 100% afraid of the rush/hannity/drudge/scarborough/fox security echo chamber. other than systemic racism, i think it is partly why they focused for so long on pastor wright, yet barely mentioned parsley/robertson/haggee. it is why they continually repeat the BS that the "surge has worked", when everyone knows that it hasn't. it is why they continue to parrot the neoliberal talking points, and rarely report on the deleterious effects market fundamentalism has had on the vast, vast majority of the people across the globe. it is all b/c they are afraid of being called out and being mocked and ridiculed by the rightwing.
I actually think this question is more interesting that it appears at first. If Obama is the nominee, then the MSM may be forced to play nice.
I really don't think someone like Chris Matthews would be able to bash Obama like he regularly does Clinton, so even if he is a McCain supporter, it would be less vitriolic, I think. Likewise, with McCain's history of service and status as POW, I don't think Obama supporters would be able to vilify him as much either. I just don't see how the MSM press would be able to indulge in high level character assassination this time around. I think they would have to be very careful not to get called for swiftboating, ageism or race-baiting.
(Please note, I'm not talking about political operatives or their mouthpieces. For character assassination, see Saxby Chambliss, GWB, Swiftboat Veterans for "Truth", Limberger, Shammity, Tweety, etc. etc.)
No wonder the repubs would prefer Hillary be the nominee. Judging by both MSM and partisan (demo and repub) media, she is sooooooo much easier to hate.
fwacbar @ 24:
Thanks for squeezin in #~700, fwacbar! Feel free to pop out a few more...
;-}
Stephen @ 44:
I was wondering the same thing.
fwacbar @ 24:
I've heard that! How the fuck is that supposed to work, anyway? Somebody who backs Obama because they're against the war, believe in a strong economy, want's healthcare for all - they're going to switch to a candidate who believes in NONE of those things if Obama doesn't get the nomination? That doesn't make any sense.
These media whores have no conscience as to what they are setting this country up for as far as being run by a senile old man. The signs are there but have been dusted over. We will enter one of the most critical times in our history with guy at the helm who can't remember why he's in the basement situation room . Maybe I came down here to change the A/C filters duh
Samson, But I was raised in the belief that the media was LIBERAL. And you know LIBERAL is a dirty word. Right-wingers tell me that all the time. I guess clean air, workers rights, safety standards aren't really needed. After all, the right-wingers will come through for us, right?
He's Reagan bro. The sooner you naderites figure this out the quicker you can stop laughing at him and begin to fear his candidacy. He will be tough. He has to be beaten.
Stephen @ 44:
I'm a regular here at Crooks and Liars, and that topic has already been discussed in previous threads. This thread is about the Media's treatment of McCain. Hillary's bosnia whopper has already been discussed, we're moving on.
Stephen @ 44:
Hi, Jack!
SassySandy @ 48:
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 47:
Hey Proud2b!
How bout:
McCampaignFinanceReformIsAJoke
McMilleniaOfWarIsComing
McIDon'tCareWhatYouThink
McSeniorMomentsMeanI'mSenile
Just a coordinated ploy by ALL the neocon media to promote, protect and elevate their baby monster to the ranks of Pope we must have. Are there any prime TV media station not owned by these vermin Nazineocons? How is it that the liberal and Democrat have all didn't get to own a piece of that TV battleground? That sure was a big mistake and it shows this scenario we are now contemplating was the result of a long well thought plan by a group of very ill minds. We are living now under the rule of Capitalism Gone to Hell and Fascism. Next will be that the most likely Democratic candidate will be eliminated by the CIA or Secret Service. We are doom and the only way out is to conform.
They deserve to be hit in the nose with a rolled-up newspaper.
Stephen @ 44:
She merely misstated, Stephen. 'Crooks, Liars and Misstaters' is just too long a title even for a vlog.
Mark Groubert @ 52:
...off if you want to be a successful McLobbyistwhore, lol.
[Deleted. Trolling. And you're banned, too. Site Monitor]
Dr. Acula @ 56:
Four more for Dr.Ac, lol
;-}
Perfect Liberal @ 61:
Someone's let this person near a keyboard again.
Never, ever let anyone drink and type.
dennis @ 59:
As is "Inviting All Concern Trolls to Hijack a Thread Dedicated to Critical Examination of the Bestial Affair Between McFuckUsAll and the MSMotherfuckers",
haha
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 54:
Careful, you'll get the TSA in here.
Kinda like how the press has treated Obama? LOL...geez, even SNL made fun of it.
McCain isnt getting any more a free ride than any otehr candidate, For ever reporter that is biased towards him, another takes the opposite stance. Same goes for Obama.
Saying it over and over again does NOT make it true.
Perfect Liberal @ 61:
But pray to the dark lord McSatan for ArmageddonRaptured'n'yernothaha!
goat hussein sage @ 63:
Lithium powered blogger needs a recharge...
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 49:
Actually, the story goes something like 19-20% of voters polled in each camp said they would defect to McCain's camp.
So I guess that puts you in with the other 80% now, doesnt it?
pissed off patricia @ 65:
Teacher Student Assistants are welcome as long as they have cute 'remarks' like yours, poppy ;-}
Jay @ 66:
Hi, Jackson!
roxnev Says:
Last time the press got a retard elected
Weell...actually the reeetard wasn't "elected". I agree with your point that the "news" media did everything it could do to sell dumbya to the American people but it still came down to the US Supreme(Right) Court doing it's part.
I really don't think the "retard" was even "elected" in 2004. That's the really scary part. Systems are in place to get the Republi-bot over the top, 51%-49%+-.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 70:
Ah shucks!
"I’ve never seen the press cover for a politician like they do for McCain"
So you never saw them cover Bill Clinton?
Jay @ 66:
i beg to differ.
yes, i think the press has called mccain to task (as they should have) on some issues, like purposefully trying to link al qaeda to iran. but the press has, repeatedly, let mccain slide on one HUGE factor: the surge. they contine to parrot the false and misleading notion, trotted out by mccain and other neocons, that the surge is working--when it has not, is not and will not.
this being one of mccain's biggest "strengths" needs to be challenged and exposed, yet they don't. and, again, i do not think this has to do with the media loving mccain, but more the media being too cowardly to report the straight dope, thuis they continue to report the flag-waving, insular, misinformation that will keep drudge and limbaugh off their back.
today's msm: complete, access-addicted, cowards
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 71:
That's cute. Would you be one of the sheep cute enough to include Hussein in your moniker as some sort statement? Not everyone who hates the religious right fits in your category either. Just an FYI....
Jay @ 69:
Hi again Jack-off you go now! Let's talk later on an open thread...
Samson- @ 74:
now this is where I disagree. I have seen plenty of "anti-surge" reporting out there, CNN being the largest contributor. I dont think anyones letting him slide. I think the media is confused and trying to figure out how we got three candidates, one who sold out his original values to run for president, one who is a charismatic speaker with no expertise to speak of except loads and loads of vision, and a third who would run over their own mother to become president.
The days of real leaders have seen to departed in our reality TV loving world. I suppose if the press didnt try to make each a little bigger than life, we would be more apathetic as an electorate than we already are.....
The Rev Wright controversy has taken a toll on Obama. The latest Rasmussen Poll shows McCain with a double digit lead over both Obama and Clinton.
http://tinyurl.com/2u693r
Samson- @ 74:
That's right Jack-off you go now, lol.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 62:
"The macho “maverick” is the coolest kid in school..."
Thats one lame school ...
McSenileImplant
abob @ 78:
And anotehr today said it had NO effect. Who do you believe?
Jay @ 75:
This thread's about McYourFakeWarHero's relationship with the media. Prove you're not a concern troll and quit trying to take this into Obama criticism... and keep your fascination with sheep to yourself, two-sizes-too-big-boot-wearer, lol.
Jay @ 77:
And your solutions are?
abob @ 78:
Hi, Jack!
earl @ 80:
LOL!!
A pearl from the earl, thanks!
;-}
I was talking to a columnist I know who thought that the main reason was that, unlike many of the other politicians, McCain is very personable and treats them like friends... Sounds suspiciously like battered wife syndrome if you ask me.
McHillaryIsMyBitch
Dr. Acula @ 87:
Between Hillary saying she and McCain have experience and Bill saying that Hillary and McCain love their country....Maybe the name should be McClinton.
I don't think an BO fan can complain about favorable coverage of another candidate
McSenileImplant
LOL!!
A pearl from the earl, thanks!
;-}
Thats if the SC 'elects' him same as they did with L'il Dub ...
pissed off patricia @ 88:
Pretty fuckin retarded to associate anything positive with McPhony, for sure, yet we'd still be immeasurably better off with her than another Rayguneotard if something goes wrong for Barrack. The way this game has been rigged, we're lucky if we get to pick between the lesser of evils. It may take a few election cycles to begin being able to pick the best of a great field... The wealthy oligarchs have been working the game since the beginning, and it's going to take time to wrest power away from them without bloodshed...
Dr. Dracula Hussein Frankenstein @ 33:
The only way to fight this is to call them on it. Write letters to every media outlet you know of and accuse them of never publishing anything negative about McCain. After a few months they'll be second-guessing themselves and actually go out of their way to find something negative just to prove us wrong.
It worked for Rove.
lets face it. the 2 things the media love more than anything are war,because they boost ratings, and tax cuts for the wealthy, because they're all wealthy. now which of the 3 candidates is more likely to start another war and continue to give tax breaks to the wealthy? why do you think the moron has been president the last 8 years?
chris @ 89:
Then take a shower (and use soap this time), then come back in an hour or so and complain about McYougottabekiddinuswiththisoldfuck all ya like.
the press has been controlled for some time. if big shots like bob shieffer, timmeh, the hardballer, stephie on ABC, et al, are all ignoring the facts, how can we expect the small fry to rock the boat. six companies control the media and the salaries of those who work for them.
to think that this is a failure of journalism is a mistake. journalism disappeared at least ten years ago. they say, write and print whatever the talking points of the day are. that's the bottom line.
Jealous, you only want Obama to feel all the love & get the special treatment?
chris @ 89:
who is your candidate?
ObamaBinLying @ 97:
who is your candidate?
Look @ Proud2B today -- armed with the smackdowns!
TheToonGuy @ 93:
And might I humbly add: Fuck the msmotherfuckers! Tell everyone you know, everywhere you go who owns them, and bring them here to C&L to speed up the lamestream's self-marginalization.
redcat @ 94:
YEP
Jay @ 81:
I'll believe the flag poll.
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 96:
Exactly.
Hi CIP! Long time no talky talky! Nice ta see ya ;-}
Here's a cheap comedy bit for SNL. the Daily Show, whoever: whenever a clip of old man McCain is shown use one of those gauze lenses that they use on TV actresses in the 60s and 70s. "Star Trek" did it a lot and I think "Big Valley" did it with Linda Evans. All I ask is 50 dollars for this brilliant idea. Thats right just 50 dollars. If using the site to make money is against policy, then me and my friend Mr. Lincoln would gladly apologize to the sight monitor.
ObamaBinLying @ 97:
Hi Jack-off you go now!
joeedugan @ 92:
first of all, joeGenius, that is 20% of all democrats, do the math again.
second, this is a GE poll, with the only purpose being to show division among Democrats.
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 98:
FIFY
Dr. Acula @ 100:
Tired a these fuckin young repube neotard provocateur concern trolls. Sorry if any earnest dem candy supps get caught in the crossfire, though...
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 104:
Luvyaback, my supremely witty bud. I'm shamming today. Taking a break from my three job life. I could use a three dog night if the dogs were alisia keys, halle berry and ashanti.
re: "Do all the candidates throw parties or barbecues for the press?"
Dunno but likes like it was fun.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=59724
As much as anything else, presidential campaigns are won and lost by the media narratives that rightly or wrongly come to define a candidate. In the case of Repubican nominee John McCain, the seemingly unshakable narrative of the political "maverick" could not be further off the mark. At almost every turn, McCain in his eternal quest for the White House has reversed long-held positions, compromised core principles and swallowed his pride in order to curry favor with both the leading lights of the conservative movement and right-wing Republican primary voters. The untold story of campaign 2008 is simply that of John McCain's transformation from maverick to prostitute.
For the details, see:
"From Maverick to Prostitute: The Untold Story of John McCain."
bill @ 103:
LOL!!
The Maypole's comin' up in about six weeks too, but that's usually pretty phallacious, hehe ;-}
joeedugan @ 105:
HAHAHA!! Nice!
;-}
Is this What Neal Gabler Meant by McCain’s ‘Detached Irony’?
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 107:
Nice, CIP. You handle the facts, I'll dish out the disdain, and all the Jacks-off will be, haha.
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 110:
I'll contribute to your Viagra OD if you think that would be priaper, hehe...
;-}
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 99:
Hillary, my back-up is McCain. Looking for experience & accomplishments, and if I have to vote Republican, for the 1st time in my life, I will do so. We don't need another clue-less pretender, full of hot air & no substance to replace the one we currently have.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 109:
"repube neotards" - mind if I borrow that one from time to time?
abob @ 78:
If it's the "Wrong" controversy that's taking it's toll, why is Hillary's numbers the exact same? But if you wanna quote polls (blech), then go to realclearpolitics. They have tons of them. And it all adds up to no double digit lead for anyone.
ObamaBinLying @ 118:
So you'd rather have another liar.........duck! Incoming sniper fire!!
Or Mc100YearsOfWarForNoDamnReason
AngryOne @ 112:
Nice AO!! Way ta bring it on the old fake motherfucker. That's what we be talkin bout! Thanks!
;-]
Don't expect to see any more exclamation points from me for awhile - key's a little overheated.
Tim Eaton @ 111:
The spoiled fruit don't fall far from the rotten tree - "Paris wannabe makes first of many videos".
Don Davis @ 115:
Nice...Thanks Don ;-}
ObamaBinLying @ 118:
Now THERE'S a valid comparison -- Busholini vs Obama. Jesus H Christmastree give us a break!
Blue Lensman @ 119:
Not if you give me a clue to the meaning behind your moniker in return?
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 117:
no artificial hardeners required. just Ginseng and water. the side effects are embarassing. I'd hate to wear a tent to the hospital. besides, there's a redd foxx line I'm kinda Fonda.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 106:
The intelligence of the cult. Good luck getting your chosen-one elected with only half of the Democratic Party support (votes).
ObamaBinLying @ 118:
I fixed it for ya!
ConcernedCanuck @ 121:
If you think that Obama is not a liar & hypocrite, good for you. Cast your vote & I'll cast mine.
I’ve never seen the press cover for a politician like they do for McCain.
You weren't alive for the Kennedy administration, were you?
OK, there were mostly covering up his, er, hound dogging, rather than the general incompetence & idiocy that McCain displays on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis, but still.
McCain seems to be example #2,357 that if the press likes you, you get away with more.
ObamaBinLying @ 118:
Ran your comment through the troll filter and this is what came out.
ObamaBinLying @ 130:
I'd feel more comfortable if I thought you put a thought behind your thinking.
McMyleadisnowTENpointswoohoo!
ConcernedCanuck @ 122:
Luv ya too much and know yer hearts always in the right place, CC. We all get frustrated and exasperated with how fucked up things are. I just try to remember that the rich motherfuckers have been running the game forever, and it's gonna take awhile to shut them out without too much bloodshed...feel ya bro.
;-}
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 130:
Dishonesty is the winning strategy of the cult ??
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 117:
That's Dr. Dracula's math, not mine. I accused him of using supply side math, but somehow my comment ended up in italics in the middle of the quote. I may have difficulties posting on the internet, but I can do math, thank you. We can't all be Alfred Einstiens or nucular surgeons.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 133:
As seen by a mindless cult member.
ObamaBinLying @ 129:
Why thank you, but I'm too proud of how humble I am to think of myself as exceptionally intelligent, and no-one's ever called me cultured before either! Are you flirting with me?? I wish you luck as well in whatever it is you are trying to do here (what is that, exactly, btw?).
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 130:
ObamaBinLying @ 131:
Sounds fishy, haha
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 136:
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 136:
joeedugan @ 138:
Sorry Joe!
ObamaBinLying @ 143:
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Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 140:
speaks for itself
CoIntelPro - against Divisive Democrats @ 145:
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I'm sorry, but when is it time to blame the public for this mess? The fact is that none of us demand a fundamental change to anything. We don't do anything to CHANGE the media ownership in this country, we don nothing to demand changes to the constitution to give us more DIRECT power over the idiots in DC (neither party represents the people and neither party has a participatory nature to it), none of use demand a fundamental change to the economic system. We expect these big corporations who own the media (who rely on advertising revenue) to basically break corporate law and do what isn't in their best interest, to make as much a profit for their investors by making their advertisers happy, we don't do a damn thing and, frankly, I think this country is by the most ignorant country in the industrialized world. With the economy in the shape its in, the healthcare system a mess, the war, our educational system, our backwards environmental policies, our immoral foreign policies, to think that McCain is even in striking distance knowing that he's supported the very policies that have caused the mess says a lot about how stupid we are as a country. We don't deserve to solve our damn problems because the biggest, and primary, problem is the general public.
In much poorer countries, like Venezuela and Bolivia, the people there take democracy seriously and do something about the situation. They don't sit around expecting miracles, bitching until they fall out of the sky, they get off their ass, organize and make things happen. I'm leaving the country to teach English over seas in a few months, thank god. I can't stand being here much longer.
I think you could probably find the most zealous supporters on either side and get some of them so say that out of pure spite. However, the bulk of Democrats, and probably most of the zealous, will act like grown ups and vote against our true enemy. It's more likely that anyone who gets ticked off over losing will either not vote or vote for a third party candidate. The funny thing is that the OM (opportunistic media) knows this and is just trying to milk this story line for a bit—these guys really are shameless—film at eleven!
This reasoning would not apply to voters in the middle who might very well go the other way if their choice isn't running in the general.
MSNBC has major Obama bias:
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27301
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