Montel Williams Calls Out Conservative Soundbiter
By bluegal Monday Mar 31, 2008 5:01pm
We usually don't cover daytime TV here at C&L, but Montel Williams told the truth to conservative commentator Rachel Alexander's blah blah blah blaming the Democratic Congress for "bogging down" healthcare for veterans:
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Montel will also address the ever growing problem in America of soldiers who are returning home from Iraq with insurmountable injuries and financial problems. We’ll hear from Jerry, whose vehicle was hit just before he was scheduled to return from his second tour in Iraq. After first being pronounced dead at the scene, Jerry was later revived and treated at the burn center, only to be released early due to overcrowding. How can our troops be treated like this after putting their lives on the line?
Montel particularly points out that our "reservist" President Commander-in-Chief ought to "quit turning his back on those who are doing his dirty work."
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I'd never thought I'd ever say this, but Go Montel! It's not a political issue at all. This goes beyond the political lines, and I'm glad he put this thing in it's place.
You go Montel! "Smoke" em out of their holes.
I always thought Montel was a joke, but he seemed to hit the nail on the head with this one. Kudos, Montel. Kudos.
No more videos hosted by Redlasso please. I have a modern computer with all the plugins, but Redlasso videos never work and seem to prevent the rest of the website from loading up.
Who the hell is Rachel Alexander and who gave her a microphone?
That's super! The same sh!tball that's been driving around the country in a BigPharma bus as a lackey spokesperson for Phizer et al, grows a nutsack and hurts the feelings of another dipshit.
Total daytime crap attempting to pull heartstrings.
Get back on message C&L, it might be a slow news day but jesus...
Way to go Montel! I watched this thing five times.
Oh that BS was DEEEEEEEEP.
"If we cared about our freedom we would protect the guys who protect it for us"
I know he isn't talking about Iraqi VETS is he???
They weren't protecting ME or MINE or MY INTERESTS.
I don't owe MY FREEDOM to any Iraq VET!!
This is BULLSHIT.
They joined an IMPERIAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
THEY DID HORRIBLE THINGS and bad things happened to them while they were ILLEGALY INVADING IRAQ.
Show me the ones who were bombed in thier own bedrooms WHILE AT HOME - Hell that guy is BACK home and at least he has WATER, ELECTRICITY, MONTEL WILLIAMS to SHILL FOR HIM...
Give me a reality BREAK.
Our guys are the victems?
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goat hussein sage @ 5:
Rachel and her brother Andrew are co-Editors of Intellectual Conservative. Rachel practices law in Phoenix, AZ.
Note to the haters: Ms. Alexander has never posted on a salon.com blog called World o Crap and to say otherwise is false as well as libelous.
Apparently a right wing hack and a paranoid snob as well. lol
Not surprising. He was the first black at the US Naval Preparatory School. A year later, he went to the US Naval Academy. He served during the U.S. invasion of Grenada and has more than half a dozen medals. He went for the money on TV and who can blame him. I'd respect the man more if only he'd drop the daytime TV stupidity and focus more on issues. His 22 years of military service give him more than enough credibility to wade back from the quagmire of paternity tests and out-of-control teens.
I love the way her eyes go wide when Montel brings up the Shrubs reservist status!
This buck starts with Bush....period. He's such a punk, taking credit(mission accomplished) then dishing out blame(every fucking thing).
I so loved the stunned look on her goddamned face as Montel shouted out our fearless leader's real history of military service.
"Don't talk to me like I'm Montel Williams." - Richard Munch
c.blog ad.com is what is freezing up my computer for at least a minute or more this time. Is this something new to the site? Today is the first time I have had this problem.
Just good to get this message about the vets out to the daytime tv watchers. I think a lot of people who watch these shows don't spend a great deal of time on computers to find out what is really going on.
Holy crap, Montel Williams still has a talk show?!
"His 22 years of military service give him more than enough credibility to wade back from the quagmire of paternity tests and out-of-control teens."
Yeah what we need is a stronger military voice in our society...
Perhaps a wise and sycopathic killer can be our next President? Some one with ACTUAL BLOOD on thier hands...
One day when GRUNTS are king the world will be great!!!
montel should have pointed out that underfunding started with the republican controlled congress and republican president. the discussion would have ended pretty quickly.
pissed off patricia @ 14:
Yes there are so many new little AD BOT THINGS here my computer is fucking up a little too. It is a shame that our experience here is being degraded - I mean it is bad enough to have to ignore them, but when they start fucking with your computer it takes some of the fun out...
He could have mentioned that the Republicans had a majority in the House and Senate until 14 months ago. They had 3 years from the time the war started to improve medical treatment for vets.
Uh oh!! Another angry black dude!!...another looped person going to be blasted in the media.
St. McCain @ 17:
Or perhaps he could have pointed out that there was no BASIS for this war...
ebone @ 6:
Yeah, yeah...Kill the messenger(s).
Don't forget to come back for the Music Club so you can shoot the piano player.
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ReallyEvilCanine @ 10:
Geraldo did some great work in his early years on TV (he really helped to reform the mental health systems in this country), but, after a while he found himself opening Al Capone's vault.
I think it's got less to do with people like Geraldo and Montel, and more to do with the dumbed-down medium that television has become.
Annie @ 21:
Hey, give the man a break. He said more then all the MSM talking heads put together.
Wow! Go read some of her crap. She sounds like Malkin.
diamondmc @ 23:
I hope your unemployed Grandmother got an ear full.
Yeah, that was refreshing, but it's just a drop in the bucket. Until these pundits get called out for their repugnant talking points more than half the time, they'll keep spewing them. And it will keep working.
Gary @ 15:
Seriously. I think that's the news part of this article.
Eh, big deal. He yelled at her but he didn't challenge the ridiculous substance of she was saying in terms of what government's priorties should be (which is TOTALLY subjective AND political) and when she accused the Democrats of stopping important bills, he said, "yeah I hear you on that, but..."
This is phony outrage against a terribly unpopular president to gain the favor of his panel and audience. He let this silly woman sneak in all kinds of crappy right-wing 'truths' that went uncontested... they even showed the vet nodding along as she was blasting the Democrats!
Montel might have been sincere here, but he needs to control his forum better... and the guy is a spokesman for PhRMA so I have a hard time trusting him in anyway :)
Right and how bout this?
WASHINGTON — Seventeen of the nation's 50 largest cities had high-school-graduation rates lower than 50 percent, with the lowest graduation rates reported in Detroit, Indianapolis and Cleveland, according to a report released today.
The report, issued by America's Promise Alliance, found that about half of the students served by public-school systems in the nation's largest cities receive diplomas.
She says that military and defense are the two most important services government provides. Well, if thats the case when has Bush ever shown he he cared about government that actually works? Certainly not from his political appointees.
What is state of our military today after 5 years in Iraq?
And am i to believe ever that is wrong with the VA happened only AFTER democrats took 1 vote majority in the senate in 2006? Thinks were just awesome under the Rethugs majority wand Bush the first 4 years of the Afghanistan/Iraq wars? We all rememebr right hearing Bush demand every day congress do more for vets from start of this war? Dont we?
Who the hell is she kidding?
I'm surprised she didn't blame Clinton in her little typical reich-wing hissy fit.
L.A. Confidential @ 29:
Just more proof that "no child left behind" is working as designed.
O/T, but very important: Wal-Mart Drops Injured Worker Claim
Wal-Mart Drops $400,000 Reimbursement Claim Against Injured Former Worker
Am I the only one who noticed the vet on stage agreeing with the right-wing pundit?
Blue Lensman @ 32:
We're going to need to move past and beyond the "blame game" to fix this country.
Dr. Matt Hussien @ 33:
THAT is fuckin' great! Thanks, Doc!
Guess Wal-Mart realized- for once- that when the shit hits the fan it stinks up the room.
the Devious thing is , the troops are there to establish permanent bases and maintain them, so lets get the crap out and tell the TRUTH , besides the BEST way to "SUPPORT the Troops"is to not send them to war for OIL ; for projecting power ; for establishing permanent bases and to support the war profiteers and I hope that Oliver Stone's new movie about George " accused war criminal " bUsh , pulls no punches and if that slum lord talk show Chris MaTtHEWS HAS A PROBLEM with STONE " making up " stuff in his past movies , here's another REALITY CHECK . There is ample, irrefutable proof that bush and cheney had maps of Iraq's oil reserves on their desk prior to the illegal war ; planned way back in the early 90's according to their own words to invade , that's laid out in PNAC and CUI BONO ( who BENEFITS ).
You don't NEED to make up anything about bush Matthews , there's enough to charge him with WAR CRIMES . So keep your phony arguments , when you have admitted the war , the WAR , the WAR was wrong .
"The cost of war is socialized and the profits are privatized " and the troops and American people and mostly the Iraqi people people have paid the bill and will continue to for maybe 100 YEARS , if Sen. McCain has his way , Lets hope not .
What I found disturbing is the nods of agreement from the wounded veteran when she started on her talking-point rant. It would appear that brainwashing of military personnel is very thorough since the advent of the all volunteer army. Most veterans post-1970s seem to take it as an article of faith that the Democratic party is bad for the military,ergo, bad for the country. These are otherwise sharp independent-thinking people except for politics. At least those that I am acquainted with. That seems is really insidious as they have been as affected by the awful policies of this admininstration as any of us and, in so many cases, even more.
Dr. Matt Hussien @ 33:
I hope that's not an April Fools joke, if it isn't it's the best news of he day. Shining a little sunshine on Wal-Mart's greed worked out well for that lady and her family.
Ben @ 28:
Pretty much my thoughts exactly. Either Montel agrees with the substance of her arguments and only (justifiably) called her out on crass opportunism or he missed/backed off from a real opportunity obliterating her repub talking point lies because he got caught up in being mad (also understandable, btw).
You know, I understand the jingoistic soundbite and all, and congratulations to Montel for a nice smack down, but I really wish people would stop saying we owe our freedom to the goddamn military.
We owe our freedom to our Constitution and our (nearly dead) respect for the rule of law. We don't need more soldiers, and we certainly don't need more blind loyalty to a flag. We need more rational, informed citizens.
Dell Amitri @ 38:
I was struck by the vet shaking his head in agreement with her too.
When I hear anyone saying the soldiers in Iraq are fighting for our freedom it makes me want to ask them, when was Iraq ever a threat to our freedom? Our biggest threat to our freedom works in the oval office.
Cat Atomic @ 41:
In order for that to happen people need to start devouring knowledge.
Not American Idol and McDonalds.
Cat Atomic @ 41:
Absolutely. And may I add that in my humble opinion it is every civilian's duty to protect the military personnel from themselves, bad policy, bad politicians, etc, because I understand it (and please, anybody feel free to correct me if I am wrong or enhance my point if I am on track), being in the military limits how much and often one can speak out against the leadership and bad policy. The way I see it there is a balance to be kept here: we protect, defend, and support each other.
Annie @ 8:
You certainly have a right to your opinion so I would like to offer mine in response.
The current CIC has corrupted the military by entering them in to this illegal war and occupation. Even though you may not believe that the military is not protecting your freedoms they do stand ready to protect the shores of this country should we be invaded by a hostile force. The fact that they are in Iraq is not their doing and unless they're ready to go to the Brig they go where they're told when they're told. They have families to think of, retirements to think of, and all the can do is go over and do the best they can while trying to stay alive. People may think it easy for a military person to say no to deployment but you have to think how you would react if standing up to your boss would mean going to jail. And not just jail, but a military Brig and after a courts-martial and a dishonorable discharge as well.
There are some in the military that have done horrible things to the innocents in Iraq and others that have done good things for the Iraqi people (operating as best they can within the system). Though the Bush syncophants always preach that everyone joined the military post 9/11 to kill terrorists you have a lot of people in the military that joined so they could take care of their families (including health care for their dependents), get an education, or to simply to have a job so they could live. You have National Guard who joined not only for the educational benefits but because the Guard did humanitarian work during times of natural disasters. The National Guard has no business being in Iraq but due to the present state of the military they keep getting sent back time and time again.
I understand you're angry, we all are but I hope that we all keep our eyes on who is at fault here. Rail against the president, the vice president, Congress, the civilians at the Pentagon like Rumsfeld, but try to look at our troops with a modicum of compassion. If you happen to watch Bush's War look at the force of the explosions you see and imagine yourself in that situation. Yes this individual is back home with electricity, cable TV, water, and everything else that the Iraqi people don't have due to our invasion. No matter how you look at it though he paid a pretty high price for his "luxuries" and long after this war/occupation is long over he'll still wear the physical and emotional scars.
I look at some of these things that are happening in Iraq and am disgusted as well. Hopefully most of these are a reaction to being there and not who these people are or were before being sent over there. All we can hope is that we take care of them so they don't bring too much of it back home as well as letting them live a productive and happy life again. I also hope that we as a country step up and make sure we do our best to rebuild Iraq and its people as well so they're not broken forever.
I guess to sum it up I understand being angry as long as we temper it with compassion. To be angry but to not paint with such a broad brush that we stereotype everyone involved but instead treat everyone as an individual who is responsible for their actions.
I hope I wasn't all over the place in this reply as well as I hope you can understand and respect my opinion as I do yours.
pissed off patricia @ 43:
Actually the biggest threat to our Freedom is the MSM. The MSM is like the moat that surrounds the castle.
For one thing, that fucking Republican whore was on there with her soundbites not at Montel's discretion but the minion who schedules the guests, obviously taking orders from above. Sure didnt hear a Democrat on the show admitting how the neocons cut funding for VA everytime they get a chance (look up their record on funding for the Veterans Affairs)
I should have never even watched that clip, makes me so fucking mad I could scream
If Montel were a sharp debater instead of just a daytime talk-show windbag, he'd have pointed out that the major scandals and shortfalls in the vets healthcare system occurred during a time when republicans controlled all three branches of government. It's been less than two years that democrats could "bog down" anything, even if they wanted to.
"Quit turning his back on the people that're doin his dirty work!"
Shit yes.
A few more of these "Donahue moments" and Montel is going to find himself out of a job. He's already on thin ice with his corporate, Republican masters. They don't take well to uppity blacks.
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
We’re going to need to move past and beyond the “blame game” to fix this country. Sound familiar?
Site Monitor (or anybody else who wants to save SM the time of replying),
What does "F.I.F.Y." mean?
Thx.
Stands for "fixed it for ya"... as in, edited for, ahem, content...
Ben,
"they even showed the vet nodding along as she was blasting the Democrats!"
I noticed that too.
What to say? Feel quite bad for the guy and he deserves the best care but I didn't like him doing that.
Blue Lensman @ 52:
Oo! Oo! I know!
Good ol' Scotty "Butterbutt" McClellan, right?
Montel Williams knows a thing or two about the military, he's an Annapolis graduate
Bonkers Hussein @ 53:
I think it means 'fixed it for you"
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I understand Montel's point about taking care of those people you've sent into battle, but I deeply resent the notion that our military is protecting our freedom. The military hasn't done that since at least WWII. The Iraq war -- like Vietnam, like Gulf War I, like Grenada (Grenada for god's sakes? Are you kidding me?) -- has NOTHING to do with defending our freedom. All the military is doing now, besides spreading misery and mayhem around the globe, is sucking money out of the taxpayers' pockets -- money that could go for something good and useful in this world, instead of death and destruction. We need to stop bullshitting ourselves and our kids about the role of today's modern military.
Blue Lensman @ 52:
I know what your saying but what other alternative is there now? The NeoCons have screwed over our country completely and nothing short of nose to the grindstone is going to repair it. We're either going to rise from the ashes or sink deeper into the hole.
Snap!
jharp @ 54:
It dont mean he's agreeing with her, give the guy a break, he's in front of television cameras for maybe the first time and she is appearing to come to his defense, when all she was doing was shifting blame in return for someones blood money payout
pissed off patricia @ 57:
Ah! Thanks!
Of course, now I am curious about what got fixed @ #8, but that might be nunnmye, as is none-my bidness.
:)
Let me clarify this statement before I get nailed:
I look at some of these things that are happening in Iraq and am disgusted as well
I'm disgusted by the whole Iraq War/Occupation, what I meant above is some of the specific things that have happened in regards treatment of innocent civilians.
I hope this clears that statement up a little bit better. After reading back over it after it posted I realized I really left myself open there.
Silly repuglicans! Daytime TV tricks are for kids!
Cat Atomic @ 41:
Cat Atomic, we're not free.
casper46 @ 24:
Oh, the cognitive dissonance hurts...
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/rachel-alexander-archives/
L.A. Confidential @ 59:
I was simply echoing the words you used to chastize my earlier comment. I don't have any problem at all with playing the damn blame game. I think we ought to be blaming the repugs loudly and boldly every time they bring up these worn out talking points. Mixing in salient facts might help as well (Montel forgot this part).
odanny @ 61:
I wasn't being critical. I was just saying I didn't like it.
You bring up a good point. It'd be real easy to be taken in a nod yes to everything that was said.
L.A. Confidential @ 29:
That's wonderful news. No innocents should be imprisoned, even children.
Blue Lensman @ 67:
I'm with you we should seriously challenging the repugs along with hard firm effort and in their face work. Not this Pelosi mommy dearest will fix it for you now go watch the daytime soaps and enjoy your cheeto's crap.
This is exactly what the Cons want. A couch potato and internet squatting nation that can be manipulated and kicked around and exploited by their media masters.
It's killing our will.
jharp @ 54:
I think it was kind of a "dog whistle" response: Democrats, BAD!! (think Frankenstein on SNL)
john doheny @ 49:
And, not only that, but the VA funding bill passed the House and Senate and was vetoed by Bush because it included such "pork" projects as, you know, funding the Education department and the like. It was passed again stripped down last year (December) and was signed. So, what's your excuse now, Ms. Alexander?
L.A. Confidential @ 70:
This may sound harsh but perhaps the best thing that can happen to this country is to have the economy get much worse over the next five months. Maybe that would get more people off of the couches and out of thier houses.
jharp @ 68:
Indeed. He might have been nodding in agreement to the notion that apart from assigning blame (repugsrepugsrepugs :) ) infighting and political maneuvering bogs down a lot of funding for a lot of things, including help for vets and he may have missed that she was going specifically after Democrats. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Or heck, he may be simply misinformed.
Cat Atomic @ 41:
Amen, brother!
Rachel needs to go back to working at Dillards. She sucks at being a "conservative commentator" or "wastes of oxygen" as I call them.
Go Montel. I didn't realize he was still on the air. Every little bit helps.
Thanks Montel again for showing the world that our uncaring Reslug administration spits and trampels on our troops.
OO-RAH!
tell it like it is and how it should be Lieutenant Commander Williams SIR!
Dr. Matt Hussien @ 33:
Thanks Matt. This is great news. This is a great example of what can happen when the press actually does its job. You expose these people for what they are and the publicity kills them.
Nice framing, the asshole GOPer got her talking point into the air... so now the Dems are to blame, and if not... then they are part of it. Win, win... GOP style.
The sad part, was to see the disfigured soldier nodding in agreement when the bitch was doing her whole "Dems block funds for the poor soldiers." Misguided until the end, it is getting harder and harder feel sorry for these brainwashed brown shirts, giving up limb and child for their führer...
22222223 @ 80:
Don't be so sure that soldier has been allowed to be informed....!
Verdillac @ 81:
What do you mean?
Why does Montel hate the troops?
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The Dude @ 82:
it means soldiers aren't given both sides of a story, and Liberal viewpoints are not encouraged within the body of the military...all information available to them is censored and slanted...
Where'd they get this woman? And who in God's name booked her? And, finally, when the hell will they stop booking robots who couldn't ratiocinate their way out of wet paper bags?
So sayeth I...
Cat Atomic @ 41:
I agree. We've deified the military to the point that it is considered un-American or un-patriotic to criticize it and its leaders. I think the true greatness of the American Experiment is its constitution and its checks and balances -- not its military.
Rachel Alexander said defense and justice department are the two most important; that everything else is secondary.
Well I might take issue with that, but the right wing idiot seems to fail to realize that those are the two departments that were most adversely affected by the criminal Bush Junta. Ruined, perverted and undermined completely by the corruption and fascism of Bush and his cabal.
The Bedwetter on Montel: "defense and criminal justice are the most important things our government can do for us".
Oh, so big government is ok so long as bed wetting conservatives can feel safe and secure from terrorist, brown people, black people, poor people...basically anybody who isn't white, straight, and Christian is seen as a threat by these people and no amount of money is going to make a bedwetter feel safe. There will always be a GOP engineered threat against somebody somewhere if no threat exists to con and scare the bedwetters into voting against their own best interest and the interests of the nation.
I worked in the Texas Legislature when Montel Williams came to the floor to talk about healthcare reform, with an emphasis on prescription drugs benefits. He kicked those legislators in the ass. Made a very passionate speech about getting healthcare to those who need it most. Looks like he is continuing this theme. I think it is great!
For the record, I don't think he gets enough credit. Granted he does at time fall into the ruts of stereotypical day time television, but he is the only one that is doing anything that feeds the conscience. Don't leave it up to the View.
Tell 'em Montel! Montel set FOX News talking heads straight a few months ago. That was beautiful. Now Chris Matthews, Howie Kurtz, Wolf Blitzer, it's not that hard. He has nothing specifically against that woman. He's just tired of hearing people trying to score political points off our troops. That's what media should look like. Pity it's takes effin' Montel to do it.
Sometimes people nod not because they agree with what's being said, but as a sort of indication that they're listening and following the conversation. He may not agree with her, which I can only imagine given the situation he's in - being abandoned by the gov't which is led by Republicans.
After hearing Montel's summation, I wonder if Jerry (the wounded soldier) feels any differently in regard to his poor treatment.
I did like very much hearing Montel call out Bush on his military service.
more at my blog...
Montel's joint must be late.
jokes aside that was awsome.
What's it come to when it takes the host of a talk show to call out the right on their bull. Montel did it on F&F Weekend a few months ago and now this. Meanwhile so many Dems go on TV and become all whimpy and spineless (such as those on Faux News). The Dems need to step it.
Isn't Montel Williams Military background Naval Intelligence?
I didn't have time to read all the comments, so apologies if this is redundant, but Montel probably takes it a little bit personal. He did 20 years in the Air Force.
Oops - Navy - it was Sinbad who was in the USAF.
ReallyEvilCanine @ 10:
good for montel!
This Mantra:
"The primary responsibility of the Federal Government is Defense and Criminal Justice..."
Is Bullshit!
The primary responsibiltiy of the Federal Government is to do the will of the people. If fact it is the only responsibility of the Federal Government. The people want health care. What is the Federal Government doing about that? The people want an end to the occupation of Iraq. What has the Federal Government done about this?
The Republicans want to funnel money into the Defense Industry until we have no money left for anything else except prisons and executions.
This country needs drug programs for addicts, affordable housing and jobs; not wars and prisons. And certainly not profoundly disabled Veterans.
Every military person has three (3) copies of records when they discharge. The person gets one. The government gets two, kept at separate locations. All three (3) of Bush's are Missing. Tell me why John Kerry could not take that fact and repeat it every time some slime brought up the Swift Boat crapola? Democrats have got to get down and dirty when the republicans do. I believe this is why the republicans hate Hillary Clinton so much. Because they know that if she wins the Oval Office she is gonna make those little pricks pay. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. And, she is smart. And Bill has got her back.
TimeforNewLeadership @ 100:
I totally disagree and very strongly.
Getting down and dirty with the Nazis and the Soviet Union is how we got where we are today.
As Moe from the movie 'Slapshot' said (when watching a soap opera at a Charlestown bar).
"That c*nt is no good."
Jess @ 34:
We don't know what segment of the show the nodding of the vet was cut from.
Fuck Montel, he's got an ad running for some BigPharm Bus going around trying to convince me they care about me and not my pocket book. He's bought and paid for (duh!), And BigPharm just doing public image damage control because they're scared socialized heath is a possibility.
What gets me is that Montel is repeating a neocon talking point: that these troops are protecting our freedoms.
Yes, they should be taken care of, and honored for their service and sacrifice.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but they (along with most of the rest of the country) were duped. Our freedoms were and are not being threatened, except by the Bush/Cheney government. This administration has made our warriors the victims of this administration. They were put in harm's way for a lie. They are dead because of lies, and continue to die. They are wounded because of lies. Many of their lives are irretrievably broken because of lies by this administration and it's enablers.
I'm embarrassed by how frightened this nation seems to be because they are simply told to be afraid.
EliteLemming @ 105:
Oh geez, you got to pay the bills somehow, what product or service puts food on your table?
Montel did such a good job giving Rachel a stark wakeup call, he may be the man to go to the hill and bang some heads together.
Ben @ 28:
Two very telling moments as Ben@28 points out:
1.) when she accused the Democrats of stopping important bills, he (Montel) said, "yeah I hear you on that, but..."
2.) "they even showed the vet nodding along as she was blasting the Democrats!"
Republicans control the message and make a mockery of the supposedly "liberal" media. Their propaganda is taken as truth by the average American and the MSM stands by powerless, allowing it to happen instead of calling the lying liars on their lies.
I'll bet the grand majority of those listening to Rachel Alexander actually believe, as it's clear that both the soldier and Montel Williams believed, that it's the Democrats that have stood in the way of veterans getting the proper care and benefits they richly deserve.
It's so tiresome that on point after point that Republican talking points trump the truth every time. Democrats can't even get the truth to be believed, while the Republicans get their propaganda taken as gospel at will.
You have to hand it to the Republicans, they get their message out. On the other hand, the Democrats are as worthless as the MSM. That McCain is considered a contender against any Democratic presidential candidate whatsoever, is a testament to the worthlessness of the Democratic party.
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You know, despite being right about the sick state of affairs in America where the soldiers are not properly taken care of when they return, I think he is wrong about one thing -- and this might sting.
The soldiers in Iraq are NOT protecting America's "freedom". They are pawns in protecting the rich and powerful.
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Jess @ 34:
I noticed that too. He's another brainwashed one. Guess he thought Montel(a vet) was going to toot the right wing horn.
STOP George @ 109:
*ouch* but true!
Annoyed Canuck @ 19:
You missed his point about not politicizing
odanny @ 48:
You got that right!
Cat Atomic @ 41:
Thank Jesus - A sane voice in the wilderness...
Ok...Now this is deserving of a SMACKDOWN headline! Look at her squirm :p
motorfingaz @ 111:
Yeah!
Let EXXONHallibertonKBRBlackWater et al pay for 'em! They got injured ON THIER JOB - Fighting for thier interests/FREEDOM.
That's the biggest crime of it all - It was never OUR fight. A lie from begining to end.
All the money in the world couldn't topple Iraq and 're-align' the middle east - So they INFILTRATED OUR COUNTRY - STAGED A COUP if you will and did what they needed/wanted to do.
All it is going to do is damage OUR country and make them richer and more powerful.
It would be great if everyone would refrain from using CAPITAL letters to make a point. Think about it, write about it. CAPITAL LETTERS makes it seem as though you're yelling. And incontinent. And powerless. And so you YELL. Pointless.
Get a grip
Annie @ 114:
Annie @ 8:
I think you missed what Montel did. It's called using their own words against them. It's been Bush and all his chicken hawks who have pumped that tripe for years. Since they have sold that bill of goods they can't back away from it. So Montel is more than correct to throw it back in their face as an argument to take care of the vet's who have sacrificed for their diatribe.
Fuck. Yeah. Montel.
Why do you thank Jesus? He's way dead.
towntalk @ 108:
One thing was correct, the Dem's have caved too many times, they were weak when we needed them to be strong, what were the mid-term elections about again? The democrats should be ashamed of their spineless selves.
VegasRage @ 123:
The question is were we strong. Fuck the dems.
Jess @ 34:
Fuck the repubs
It's our world, welcome to it.
When asked,how is your wife? the late great WCFields answered, Well, better than nothing I guess. Alot of sleepers do watch his show maybe an awakening will begin. Hey ,how come silvia brown didn't foresee that the repugnut would say that? or did she?
Rachel Alexander is a person of incredible integrity and commitment, and I know she would suit up and go fight in this war herself if she understood the stakes. She's a leader. If there's a job to be done, she's got what it takes to do it herself.
Really. Watch. Any minute now...
Annie @ 8:
Kind of short sighted there Ann. Soldiers don't get to pick their wars else they'd all be signing up for WWII or the revolutionary war. We need them though, the world isnt a pretty place.
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
Sadly, instead of scrutinizing our government after 9/11, the MSM acted as if they were scared shitless and nodded in agreement with the government line, just as this unfortunate soldier did during the segment. That's NOT what this country needed after 9/11. Instead, we have nontraditional media, like Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and now Montel, speaking truth to power. Glad it came from somewhere. Thanks, Montel, for being mad as hell. Also, note that back in Bush's time as a reservist, reservists did not go to war. Now, more often than not, they do. Big difference between then and now, and yet people say that those in the armed services know they are to put their lives on the line for their country. For reservists, it wasn't always so, and military recruiters REALLY downplay the risks.
--Blue Girl @ 97:
Montel started as a Marine.
Sander @ 126:
No I saw it too. Yes the Repuglickends have wrapped themselves in the flag while most dodged the risk of serving. I also noticed the vet was nodding his head for much of what Montel was saying also.
You know things are bad when daytime talkshow hosts are railing against you.
You go, girlfriend!
Okay, everybody gets a free car!
Yeah!
They're all SUV's!
Boo!
I believe Montel was a marine.
Anyway, I worked with an office full of chicks like Rachel: it was pure hell. They were so eager to get to the top they'd do anything. Talk about Koolaid drinkers; and back-stabbers; and and brown-nosers: pure evil. These are the GOP young, perky, hopefuls. (Rove was once one of them, too.)
Icelander @ 134:
Elizabeth Hasselbeck?
Edwin Hussein (a boo$h booer) @ 136:
His breasts were bigger.
5 goat hussein sage Says: Who the hell is Rachel Alexander and who gave her a microphone?
===>>And who picked out her 'frigid bitch' costume?? It was perfect.
--[[[100 TimeforNewLeadership Says]]]: Every military person has three (3) copies of records when they discharge. The person gets one. The government gets two, kept at separate locations. All three (3) of Bush’s are Missing. Tell me why John Kerry could not take that fact and repeat it every time some slime brought up the Swift Boat crapola? Democrats have got to get down and dirty when the republicans do. I believe this is why the republicans hate Hillary Clinton so much. Because they know that if she wins the Oval Office she is gonna make those little pricks pay. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. And, she is smart. And Bill has got her back.
===>>Oh yeah. It'll be payback time, BIG BIG time. I can see the evil snear on her face as they install the new WH draperies. Fasten your seatbelts... (it might almost be wort it, just for that. I said, might.) And, yes, the Dems need spines, fer sure.
I'd rather be an earlobe nibbler.
Is there any such thing as an unsound biter?
Montel, put your money where your mouth is!
Fuck Montel. He is making a fortune convincing old and poor Americans that big Pharma is on their side with his bus tours. One more way of keeping profits high for big Pharma, diluting the efforts for real health care reform, dividing the electorate, and screwing the little guy. Yeah Montel I really want to have to beg for my medicine.
This is the second clip of Montel I have seen that was both morally and ethically on par with my personal feelings at the current state of this government and the horrible lie that has cost more than 4,000 American lives (number is growing people) as well as hundred of thousands of Iraqi lives (again growing everyday). First time was on Fox's little day show where he lambasted the group with his probing question on why recent American deaths in Iraq were no longer talked about yet a star who committed accidental suicide (which I believe is the official findings now, which is tragic - any death is tragic) was all that anyone would talk about - and after the commercial break Montel was gone and the discussion died.
Really, it is these kind of statements by Montel that makes me literally happy that he isn't falling in step with the apologist.
Those that respond with "Montel, put your money where your mouth is!" Would you be willing to put your money to the same cause? If so then yeah go ahead you can push that idea on his desk to donate money to any cause that would help these soldiers.
I've already put money towards groups that are out there to support troops in such situations - but I can't shake the feeling that I'm one of a few in this country that care. I remember a time that if you joined the army and wanted to continue with a college education you would literally have your college education payed for - and I don't mean in the general skills level courses, I'm talking about Harvard Law school. Hell "McSame" benefited from that system, and he helped cut it to the joke it is today.
The way this country has let down the military families over the years - slicing the benefits till there is nothing left but substandard benefits of minimal wage state workers, is just reprehensible. It is about time someone in the media - even if its one of those horrible daily talk shows - comes out and points the finger. Especially points to the head of this country, who uses up military resources and the American budget, not to mention lives, doesn't think twice about the lives that are forever damaged in this costly war... I'm sorry I'm getting furious thinking about it, literally shaking at the keyboard.
All I have to say - these statements by Montel, I'm 100% behind.
Sander @ 127:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnayUpbJYs
Of course it is true that the specific actions of military personnel in Iraq are not actively preserving our freedoms here in the U.S. Playing the devil's advocate though, the existence of our military (especially given its size) may have a deterrent effect on some (and an accelerant effect on other:) countries potential aggressive actions against the U.S. Therefore, the men and women who make up the military allow this perception of U.S. military might to exist and somewhat protect us.
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