April 03, 2008 08:00 PM
Kevin Rudd's Bush salute riles Australians
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In a sign of just how toxic the Bush administration has become for Australian politicians after years of former PM John Howard's all-too willing servility, current prime minister Kevin Rudd gets into trouble at home for "conduct unbecoming of an Australian prime minister" by saluting Bush at the NATO summit.
Greens Leader Bob Brown was also unimpressed, accusing Mr Rudd of belittling Australia and being subservient. "There is a streak of John Howard's 'deputy sheriff' in Kevin Rudd's slip-up," he said. "We are not the 51st state of the United States of America and Mr Rudd's salute carried a subservient connotation many Australians won't like."
linky no worky.
I casually salute people all the time... not out of subservience or even respect, just as a non-verbal "Hey, what's up?"
I'm not very bothered by this, but maybe Australians view this sort of thing differently?
Bush is a utter failure. Everything he has touched has turned to crap. Starting when he was a frat boy to his businesses, he has been proven to be incompetant in every regard. We, Americans have to reflect and take stock for all the wrongs this Administration has done. History will not be kind.
I salute Bush all the time! But I use just one finger!
P.D. @ 3:
History will be rewritten.
Quit Burp @ 4:
and with both hands. Same middle finger.
bill w, you may be right. Future generations would never believe the American people voted for this train wreck. What does it say that he won (maybe not) in 2004?
Poor guy, it was probably his way of saying, Hey! You buyin the first twelve pack?
Bush is a uniter not a divider.......uniting our allies against us!
Maybe Rudd, being from "down under" is used to be subservant, and doing what comes
naturally.
Sven @ 2:
I'm guessing you're not a foreign head of state.
And to think it wasn't that long ago that Rudd HAD a promising political career.
from one empire to another...
a penal colony, now a modern nation, under the yoke of a brutal emperor, locked in a life and death struggled labeled the global war on terrorism!!
is this a sci fi script or real life?
ack!!
He should have returned GHWB's Vee sign from 1992
Everyone keep's saying Bush is a failure.
Corporate taxes are near zero.
CEOs get golden parachutes worth hundreds of millions, even when they have bankrupted their companies.
Oil is over a $100 a barrel and heading for the stratosphere. Oil profits are at record highs.
War profits are sky high. For the 100 or so corporations on the gravy train in Iraq, things have a been very, very good.
Private contractors as security guards make $400k a year.
From the standpoint of the commonweal he IS a disaster.
But,
from the standpoint of his buddies, he has been better than the second coming.
They're in heaven.
It is rest of us that are in the sh!t.
Nice to see that Americans aren't the only ones who get our panties in a twist over nothing. It's not like they caught him polishing Bush's testicle receptacle. Yeesh.
Still, being anything more than the required level of cordialness to Bush in this day and age does make you look like a bit of a dick, I guess. No, the more I think about it I guess the real point is that people hate Bush so much that a friendly gesture is like a crime! Hahaha...it's getting funnier.
Piffle!
If I was an Australian I would be pissed off too. I hate the muther fucker Bush and would never salute him except with the middle finger to his face… one inch away. ( I am 110% serious)
Living in Canada, I envy the Aussies for their independent spirit. Stephen Harper's subservience to Bush is, how shall I put it? Well, if Tony Blair was Bush's poodle Harper is trying to be Bush's stuffed poodle. Total lack of independent thought. And sadly, the Canadian media rarely criticizes him for it at all.
It looks like a "howdy" salute to me. The kind of thing I see people do all the time. But after all those years of Howard fluffing the boy king i guess the Auzzies might be a tad touchy.
bill w @ 6:
I posted my comment without seeing yours. Great minds think alike.
Quit Burp @ 4:
The Beverly Hillbilly's called it the "California Howdy ".
Hannah Hussein @ 15:
2nd Highest Corporate tax rates in the world
Oil not hit fault, supply and demand
Contractors make about $110,000
From my stand point you don't have your facts together....
Bush has tainted every world leader who followed his policies. Tony Blair and Howard are prime examples. If I were a world leader I would keep Bush at a safe distance. The fact he isn't boycotting the opening games is a slap in the face. Chancellor Merkel and many leaders are not going to make an appearance. why should Bush? After all, he wants to spread Democracy right?
Captain Kangaroo @ 17:
Not just bush, every other american who just sits around saying it's someone else's fault and doing nothing and defending the "americon way of life" , i.e. the vast majority.
I just love seeing americans getting what's coming to them as I travel the world, saw a bunch last night being the typical loud mouth ignorant assholes getting thrown out of a restaurant ........ and I'm visiting in Canada at the moment ...... so much more fun seeing them get grief in the rest of the world, proper little bushies
Doggiebobo @ 10:
Typical sad US attitude, luckily Rudd is breaking things off with the US as much as he can and dealing with Asia and the rest of the real world.
P.D. @ 7:
Twice ...... and will do it again
P.D. @ 23:
If by that you mean get rich in a power/resources grab sure .......
Chris, BlackWater has made billions. Their reputation among Iraqis is so low, they call the intestinal parasite affecting them 'BlackWater'. I'm sure there are other companies that can to the job, but I thought our soldiers were the ones to keep security in check. Between Halliburton giving our troops tainted water to the missing billions this has become a nightmare.
Bonkers Hussein @ 16:
nobody hates bush....they hate what he's done...
and what he's done deserves gestures of scorn and contempt, not respect....
so too Clinton and her slimeball campaign...
none of it is personal....its about the corrupt things they do..
chris @ 22:
From my stand point you have a penchant for pulling shit out of your arse and pass it as facts...
Bush has made enemy's faster than we can kill them. and those that are or were our friends sit precariously because bush is so hated all around the world.
Who are the people who give a shit? I'm Australian and throw the g'day salute to people all the time. Once again, knee-jerkers all over the world are jumping up and down.
I, as are most people I have talked to, are not upset at the 'salute' Rudd used, as in Australia this isn't a sign of subservience. However, Rudd's statements (and lack there of) re. Iran are a worry / disappointment. Otherwise, go Kevin!
Tyler Durden @ 28:
Nice, pithy reply, I know the truth does not set well with the secular-progressive crowd, oh well, I tried..
"Living in Canada, I envy the Aussies for their independent spirit".
Tell me, Sad But True, are independent spirits outlawed up north, eh?
Elliot Spitzer remains the front runner for 2008's "what the hell was he/she thinking" award, but Rudd is giving him a run for the money. It's not easy to humiliate a country's sense of common decency within the span of a few seconds- and yet, Rudd accomplished just that.
Australia should pass a law forcing him to wear a clown's nose for the rest of his time in office.
I don't blame the Aussies for getting fired up over this. I'm an American and I wouldn't want to see the Governor of my state (Texas) saluting the President. He's not a damn Emperor and in my opinion he has done little to earn more than professional respect from anyone. I think that the only people who should have to go around saluting this President are serving military and veterans, and only then because he is their Commander-In-Chief.
Well, for all the people defending Bush, lets look at his behavior shall we, Dancing on the White House steps while waiting to endorse John McCain, His staged conferences where he barely answers any questions, Numerous and blantant mistatements, "You're doing a heck of a job Brownie!" and so on, and so on, . . .
chris @ 32:
When confronting bullshit, brevity is a must in my book. But since you are the king of the logical fallacy and general disonesty. Let me break it down to you:
The excuse to the US having the 2nd highest corp tax rate is a facetius one, the US has a variable tax rate for corps. Picking up the worst case scenario, of 49% and which applies to very few cases, is an excersice in intellectual dishonesty. But the heritage and other right wing foundations are the kings of this. Anyhow, the average rate is closer to 15%, with many large US corps paying an effective negative tax rate. I.e. they get more in gov breaks than they pay in taxes. Also, we can discuss the milliard of US corporations that incorporated in tax heavens. But I guess your troll mind may take a looong time to digest.
Do you want more?
I'd have packed my bags and moved to Australia if he'd just pissed on Bush's shoes...and maybe even a little higher. Independent spirit indeed....I'm a Texan too.
chris @ 22:
You must be one of his buddies. Eh?
everyone should be riled when a war criminal gets saluted.
Tyler Durden @ 36:
The exact reason they go offshore is BECAUSE of the amount of taxes they pay here. Who do you think funds this country, corporations, not a family of four on $50,000. Exxon Mobile paid like 23 billion dollars in taxes in 2005 http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1321.html If they paid less they could use that money to invest so they could produce more oil or alternative fuels.....
Do YOU want more?
Australians are subservient to America.
Australia get use to it or get some balls!
I agree with the criticisms of Kevin Rudd -- no politician of any civilized country should think he or she owes diddly respect to GW Bush.
Not once during his reign of terror have I addressed GW as "President" -- he's never been MY president, and I don't think he was elected in 2000 or re-elected in 2004 by the American people. He didn't illegally invade Iraq in my name. He didn't destroy the Constitution in my name. He stands far outside the boundaries of the America that exists in history and in my heart. If he's executed for war crimes, I won't give it a second thought.
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chris @ 40:
Typical con, always a excuse to distort whats really happening.
Huge oil profits linked to economic slowdown.
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/9595/1/333/
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I don't put a time frame on how long we're in there for, forever means forever.
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McCain the Liar @ 44:
Way to change the subject, Got you on the tax one huh............
The future will tell of a criminal organization that took control of the government by clandestinely defrauding the voters of the 50 states, completely infecting the republican party. Much like is happening to many conservative parties around the world.
This is not unlike the connection between the Catholic leadership and Nazi-ism in the 30's and 40's. All the Axis leaders were Catholic and said they received blessings from the Catholic Church. Today the links are not as clear but are becoming so.
For example, why do the Bilderberger group interview the heads of state prior to them becoming heads of state? How do they know who will become leader? How can corporations have so much power over who gets elected? Who gave them that control?
As the PM of Italy has told us, the government used a false flag to bring this about and most western countries are aware of this duplicity.
We all saw this before, and I hope we realize we can stop it.
Quit Burp @ 4:
my sentiments exactly this one is for you
What a bitch...he should have given bush the "one finger salute" he deserves....
Hey, what's wrong with that? We all have to salute him.
chris @ 40:
chris @ 40:
There is a top 100 US corporate tax list for 06/07 on MSN, a small percentage were up at 15% Ford etc, most were well under 10%.
LongTooth @ 33:
I think you misinterpreted my intent LongTooth. In fact you seem to have turned it around 180°.
What I envied about the Aussies was that their media went after Rudd the Dudd. If you read my entire comment, it is a lament that Stephen Harper is decidedly NOT independent, and gets away with it. But then, I'd like to see every news broadcast begin with Harper being burned in effigy.
I haven't seen the video, but that looks little like a salute, you know what it looks like? Like he's saying oh, god, there is Bush, don't look my way, don't look my way, damn.... he's spotted me.
I can't help wondering what the French must be thinking about their new President. FOX News just loves him and his wife. And of course he kisses Georgies' behind.
chris @ 40:
And who the fuck do you think built this country? Who the fuck do you think makes all the wealth that is available for America hating piece of shit dirt bags like exxon/mobile to steal? You think its exxon/mobile execs? Sorry asshole troll, wrong answer! It's American working people! Without those $50 grand a year families and even more so the LESS THEN $50 grand a year families exxon/mobile and their lame ass kiss ass execs would have exactly NOTHING! Not even a dime! And that's exactly what they're going to end up with if they keep going the direction they've been.
I would have preferred to see that Aussie take that American shrimp and toss him on the barbie.
chris @ 46:
I got one on the tax for you asshole. Who the fuck SHOULD pay for the illegal use of US Armed Forces? The working citizens who are having their lives and country destroyed because of that illegal use? Or the contractors and oil companies who are making record profits because of the illegal use of US Armed Forces? And don't give us any of your lame ass bushshit about supply and demand of oil! If you think ANY ONE reading here isn't aware of the effects throughout the world on both supply and demand and SPECULATION created by the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq you're only fooling yourself.
Obviously just a joke.
However, he is a Bush Puppet none the less. You can tell be the way the rest of the world representatives wouldn't go near him.
SassySandy @ 54:
I've kinda been wondering about that too.
This is a complete beat-up! He was just waving!
And the thing about Rudd this week is that he is beating Bush as his own game without making a dick of himself. That's exactly the way Bush would wave. Likewise at the joint press conference, Rudd got in the dig that Queensland is bigger than Texas. In fact, there are only two Australian states that aren't bigger than Texas.
For Brendan Nelson to try and jump on this is pathetic. He has no clue. He's a useless opposition leader who is just keeping the seat warm until until a real leader comes along and whose name will inevitably be Malcolm Turnbull.
Right now, Nelson's approval figures are even worse than Bush's. Mr 9%.
I'm a once again proud Australian (thanks to the Rudd victory) and am amused with the sorts of petty things that get people's knickers in a knot!
Rudd has been criticised for attending a strip joint in New York over a decade ago (and getting drunk!), for using too many big words that many can't understand, for putting his finger in his ear and allegedly putting the wax in his mouth, for not respecting George W by announcing the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, for respecting Bush too much by saluting him!, for ratifying Kyoto, for saying sorry to our stolen generations etc etc.
Some Australians have grown TOO accustomed to the draconian Howard government era - which was very similar to the US's Reagan/Bush/Bush Jr era's and the UK's Thatcher era (not too surprising - John Howard declared his greatest role models were Reagan and Thatcher !)
I guess the only way Rudd will be accepted by these people is to start demonising muslims again, abuse aboriginal human rights and living conditions, abolish fair go working conditions, stick his head in the sand over climate change, send more troops to be killed and injured in Iraq and soon Iran AND let George W take him up his backpassage like John Howard did!
Australians did the right thing in November 2007 - and America has the chance to do the same in November this year! Bush will be gone and hopefully your spineless congress will issue criminal charges against him, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Rice etc - AND hopefully Obama and/or Clinton will be your leader(s).
Fingers crossed!!!
BennyP @ 58:
Hmmn, are you just going by the video? Kevin Rudd could have just finished speaking with a bunch of people and could be wondering what was the next move in a room full of choices of people to mix it up with, this moment was a gap, it seems. He was looking around the room and spotted a familiar face who was looking at him at the same moment and did a salute this is not at all unusual - we are in the Commonwealth, you know! (sarcasm heavy). It happened to be Bush.
I would be very surprised if people didn't want to talk to Kevin Rudd. He's erudite, charming, smart; all the good things you'd want in a prime minister. He also speaks Mandarin and he's the prime minister of Australia, surely a very attractive part of the world for many reasons.
and, no, he's not necessarily a "Bush Puppet" - time will tell exactly what his story is going to be, but it's highly unlikely.
You're thinking about the previous government - a 'blue ribbon' government that sold out the pride of the nation for many years. They went into Iraq even though millions marched against it in Australia.... that was the Howard government. John Howard, our Prime Miniature. Many found ourselves not being able to look at his face or listen to his voice, the exact way that people in the States are experiencing. It was the same with Blair.
But Rudd - thank God for Rudd! It has GOT to be far, far better with him. John Howard's party lost at the last election - last November - hurrah!! and Kevin Rudd, and his party, are 'heaven sent' in comparison with that crotchedy old bastard Howard and the rest of them.... (curmudgeon switch off).
Pull your head out of your azz Tyler , Exxon mobil has been making more money / bigger profits than any other business or corporation in the history of the world and " we " need to be giving them billions in tax breaks so they can afford to invest in alt fuels and more oil production ? The billionaires need tax breaks so they can afford to go invest and spend ? I was going to go on here and show you the absudity of your logic but decided WTF , in your world white is black and black is white , you're another right wing fountain of bullshit and nonsense , so there's no use . I salute you and George , guess which finger .
bettestreep @ 61:
Hurrah, yes! Well put.
bettestreep @ 61:
ta.
Maybe he wasn't giving a salute, maybe he was getting ready to hold his head to stop a headache he got from listening to Bush talk....
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Now, if he'd given Bush a single-finger salute (as in middle finger), then he'd be the toast of 90 percent of the world, and most Australians.
It was a slow news day at Crooksandliars yesterday too was it?
It looks like he's adjusting his glasses.
Say Hello to Chris the Bleeding Heart Conservative. America's newest and strangest political phenomenons. Bleeding Heart Conservatives are people who can't sleep at night thinking of the unfair persecution suffered by Oil Companies, CEOs, billionaires, etc. Show them a third world child, belly distended from hunger and they'll say "more free markets will solve that problem!" Call Rush Limbaugh a lying drug addicted, draft dodging hypocrite and they'll be outraged at such treatment of an undeniable scumbag who's made hundreds of millions spreading lies and hate. They are a distinctly George W. Bush phenomenon, grown out of W.'s misguided definition of "loyalty", and his subsequent predilection to surround himself with the most obsequious ass-kissers imaginable. The Bushies do not understand "speaking truth to power". It is idiocy to them. Power is only to be kissed up to a la John Bolton, Condi, Myers, the entire DOJ, etc. How else does one get ahead in life?
In his first few days of entering office, Kevin Rudd signed Kyoto and committed to withdrawing Australian troops from Iraq. If that makes him a Bush puppet, then what doesn't. How can this be such a subject of interest in America, anyway. The focus needs to go from meaningless gestures like mock salutes to real issues. It's why Australia has universal health care, a livable minimum wage, no death penalty and practically no guns.
It looks like a “howdy” salute to me. The kind of thing I see people do all the time. But after all those years of Howard fluffing the boy king i guess the Auzzies might be a tad touch./..............
As an Aussie who voted for Rudd and am proud to have done so to end the divisive, rotten stinking, liar Howard and his henchmens reign, its interesting to observe in the 2 days after the so called salute, talkback radio and newspaper blogs are running 90% in Rudds favour. As was to be expected the opposition parties jumped all over it because there is stuff all else they can criticise Rudd and his Labor Govt for. Since being elected they have carried out a heap of their election promises and Rudd is making an enormous impression in this his first major overseas trip.
Its just sour grapes and a beatup by his opponents and the right wing media who have still not got over their beloved rodent leader Howard being kicked in the arse and dumped from his own seat even.
Last opinion poll showed Rudd had 70% approval, while his Liberal opposite rated 10%. That's almost suicide numbers, so you can see his detractors will grasp at any straw.
As as earlier contributor to this blog noted, it was a mere "howdy" gesture, and nothing more.
RUDD RULES :-)
Well, I'm an Aussie, and I voted for Rudd, and I detested Howard's subservience to Bush.
So I think Rudd's salute was appalling. Hello, Rudd, Bush is an international pariah - a war criminal! Why would you salute him like that?
But Rudd is a nerd, so maybe he was just feeling awkward or something.
Meh. Looks to me like he’s just sort of saluting hello, not offering Bush any sign of respect. Still, I can understand why people are upset. I’m not comfortable with the idea of our PM saluting any head of state, even the Queen (although I’m a passive monarchist).
Beat -up, move on please.
Move on will ya please journos. Most Aussies couldn't give a toss. We're more important things to do such as removing Islam of Australia.
any country ruled by murdicKKK press is fucked! that would be most primarily english-speaking countries of the british sphere. just serfs used to lies and blindly waiting for another liar to follow.
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fuck murdicKKK and his readers!
Hey those aussies know who their supreme commander of the world is (snicker snicker)
"I casually salute people all the time… not out of subservience or even respect, just as a non-verbal “Hey, what’s up?”"
You're not a Head of State so it's a tad bit different. "What up Georgie? How's it hangin' broham?" would not have been appropriate either.
These aren't two frat buddies or a couple of pals getting together after the company softball game. The Australian people should be disturbed by this.
The Australians are not going to tolerate their Prime Minister being Bush's poodle a la Tony Blair.
Sven @ 2:
Ah....no. Your rationale doesn't work here. So do I salute people (usually golfing after a fine shot-from a distance) but this here is signalling out the "world leader" as that. And this is the thinking that has the world in the situation it is.....by giving this a-hole he's doing the right thing and we're behind him.
Actually, I don't know which is more unprofesional...coming up behind the German leader and rubbing her shoulders or this.
You can tell that Bush has no idea of how despised he is throughout the world. He's just some simpleton going through life and having his way.
And Bush stands across the room giggling and grinning like a 12 yr old school girl.
Bush is pathetic and I hope his supporters suffer for the rest of thier lives.
RalphieV @ 82:
Exactly!!
RalphieV @ 82:
You're right. He's the Forrest Gump from Hell.
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Sorry Forrest....
I bet bush got a boner over that one.
How does the saying go? "John Howard had his head so far up George Bush's arse that he could see Tony Blair's heels."
As an American who pines daily for his beloved Sydney, I can't say I'm a fan of the mutual Aussie-American sniping I've been seeing here. Australians and Americans go together like toast and Vegemite (with a Coopers Sparkling Ale to wash them down.)
Let us save our attacks for the truly deserving target: Dubya & Co..
Go the Green and Gold.
Who knows why he saluted bush. Rudd already committed to troops leaving Iraq when Bush was in Australia last month. That takes guts. Australia and the US had very strong ties with Howard as Prime Minister.. That doesn't fizzle away overnight. Rudd is taking the country into a different direction. He even apologized to the Aborigines for what the whites did to their culture. That takes a lot of guts.
At least he didn't curtsey like Nancy Ray Gun did to Queen Elizabeth.
F64club @ 69:
For a good 10 years after I left the Air Force, whenever I was in downtown Dallas, my arm would instinctively try to salute when I saw an officer. On at least one occassion, I covered by adjusting my glassees.
I remember once doing a full salute, and got an instant response back from the officer. Then we both seemed awkward, because I realized I was now a civilian in civvies. It made me wonder how often officers were saluted by former servicemen from instincts and not just civilian smartasses.
Mostly my arm would come about half way up, and then I'd catch it, and sometimes it seemed like the officer noticed.
ysbaddaden @ 89:
Actually, Nancy Ray Gun refused to curtsy. that was the hullabaloo there.
ysbaddaden @ 90:
Hell. They probably knew.
miss_kitty Hussein @ 91:
I thought Hullabaloo was a name of an English rock show like Tops of the Pops.
Mmm...
Well AFAIK Rudd hasn't actually joined Bush in launching an unprovoked attack on a non-threatening, defenseless nation, while explicitly seeking to avoid any role in or responsibility for post-war reconstruction (see Colonel Mike Kelly).
I don't think you can be hauled before a war crimes tribunal for a slightly stupid hand gesture.
But it's interesting how the latter creates a media frenzy, while the former gets a great, big, five-year-long yawn.
RalphieV @ 82:
He's just the figure head, it rubs off on the country and all the people. Especially the ones that continue to wander around the world trying to tell everyone how amazing and intelligent they are ........ where as the complete opposite is true, there is no repairing this one.
♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 29:
"are" ......... what friends ? Bush has turned your country and all it's people into the most hated in the world, that's what happens when you vote that kind of evil in twice, and then do nothing about it.
There is no "It wasn't us, it was someone else" ...... Around the world (and for the most part in the states from the ones I've met) stars and strips = bush = the people = the americon way of life.
I remember having a hard time learning to salute in basic training. Those of us who wore glasses were expected to have our middle finger resting against the edge of our Buddy Holly's. My glasses would always rock about my nose as a consequence. My arm movements were probably a little lazy looking.
I was on latrine duty the entire time I was in Basic Training. This was no punishment, but we all had to do something. They had this rule, that we had to leave the toilet seats up. I always assumed it was for ease of inspection. If someone didn't they be called back into the can by the drill sargeant, and forced to say, "Sorry to let you down, sir." I don't know how many times I saw that.
Finally, they told me toward the end of basic that I left the seat down, but I didn't believe them, and was a little annoyed at going through that ridiculous routine. So on purpose I snapped off a salute from the side seams of my slacks, did a sharp salute, and like in formation said, "Sorry to let you down, sir!
My sargeant looked at me for a second, shook his head and said, "That's the snappiest salute I've seen you give anybody, and you gave it to a toilet."
SassySandy @ 54:
It's why his ratings have slipped so much and why Europe hates him, he wont last 5 mins. Nothing associated with the worlds greatest evil will.
ysbaddaden @ 93:
And Naked Raygun was(is?) a great p-rock band from Chicago.
We were all forced to salute the toilet, I didn't set up my story right.
P.D. @ 26:
This never "became" a nightmare ...... it always was, it's just that 99% of americons are far too stupid to realise that.
ysbaddaden @ 93:
It was "The Hullaballoos".
Y'all remember when pink ladies went from being a drink, to a bad show, to every Republican first lady, smiling on their husband like he's a clever five year old?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdoRbc_wxHU
ysbaddaden @ 99:
I finally figured it out!
ysbaddaden is Andy Griffith's handle! :D
Love your work, Andy!
Andy Griffith was a toilet?
chris @ 22:
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Corporate taxes should be quadrupled immediately, and made retroactive to the day that American hating jack-ass Ronald Reagan took office!
Anyone who could defend corporations at this point in time is a complete fucking moron. Why do you love corporations more than your country Chris? Your multi-national buddies don't give a shit about dumb-asses like you. Yet you sit there and defend these dispicable bastards at every turn.
You are so pig-shit ignorant of "facts" it's embarrassing. Since 1973, corporate taxes have been cut 67%! At the same time, these bastards have said fuck-you to their employees, communities that spawned them, and the country that made their wealth possible. Also during that same time, 90% of the American people have had stagnant wages, reduced benefits, and personal payroll taxes increased to make-up for lost revenue, while these corporate bastards are making millions of dollars a year looting the public treasury through Bush's "No Crony Left Behind" government. The same treasury they think they shouldn't have to contribute to, because they have a shingle outside their door that says they are in "business."
And then, to add insult to injury, they take their stolen tax dollars and "off-shore" them in the Caymen Islands, so they don't have to pay taxes on the tax dollars they stole from people who actually did pay taxes. And then stupid mother fuckers like you get on the internet and defend these pricks, like you are some kind of carbon based lifeform capable of contributing something intelligent to a discussion.
Second highest corporate taxes in the world. ROFLMAO! Who told ya that one? Rush? The guy who gets 25 million a year from the corporate bastards to fool idiots like you!
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Here Here to 105, If they are in your sights, take them down. No break for mental deficiencies anymore.
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